| Kodi. Phoenix. NjmSoccer. etc etc 21:03 - Jan 3 with 7931 views | Jackfath |
Somebody suggested to me that it was against the law to have one of these devices and using it is against the law.
I suggested it was nonsense. Perhaps illegal for the chap doing all the streaming but not the person on the other end viewing in their own home?
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| Kodi. Phoenix. NjmSoccer. etc etc on 21:06 - Jan 3 with 5633 views | jack247 |
You won't go to jail |  | | |
| Kodi. Phoenix. NjmSoccer. etc etc on 21:20 - Jan 3 with 5583 views | Jackfath |
I bet Martin is on his Phoenix every night watching free tv the money saving expert. | |
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| Kodi. Phoenix. NjmSoccer. etc etc on 21:22 - Jan 3 with 5573 views | cimlajack |
You can download Kodi on to the device you used to make this post, for free,at the moment.
Obviously things have to change in the future as it will have a massive impact on Sky revenues | | | |
| Kodi. Phoenix. NjmSoccer. etc etc on 21:24 - Jan 3 with 5562 views | Jackfath |
| Kodi. Phoenix. NjmSoccer. etc etc on 21:22 - Jan 3 by cimlajack |
You can download Kodi on to the device you used to make this post, for free,at the moment.
Obviously things have to change in the future as it will have a massive impact on Sky revenues |
Indeed. But just like websites like 'piratebay' surely those who run the sites will just pop up another 'feed' for us all to use. I can see the broadband providers putting a stop to it, but i am sure there will be work arounds for that too.
Interesting times ahead. | |
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| Kodi. Phoenix. NjmSoccer. etc etc on 01:34 - Jan 4 with 5416 views | Ebo |
| Kodi. Phoenix. NjmSoccer. etc etc on 21:24 - Jan 3 by Jackfath |
Indeed. But just like websites like 'piratebay' surely those who run the sites will just pop up another 'feed' for us all to use. I can see the broadband providers putting a stop to it, but i am sure there will be work arounds for that too.
Interesting times ahead. |
Pirate bay didn't host anything, they just did what google basically do and index links to torrents. But they lost their argument and some of them were sent to jail. Site is still going though and is frequently switched using different domain names and countries. |  |
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| Kodi. Phoenix. NjmSoccer. etc etc on 01:57 - Jan 4 with 5406 views | phact0rri |
It's not illegal to own one, and use it for legal applications (say watching youtube videos on your television... course a chrome cast of fire stick is probably cheaper). However if the box is being used to watch Pay-per-view or subscription controlled assets, it sure is illegal (much like pirating an album, film, or software). You won't go to jail for most offenses, and its usually up to the internet provider to battle it. There have been, however a crackdown on the sellers, the ones that are preloading pirating software. But , if caught it is in the rights of the assets owner to prosecute you according to UK law as you are specifically 'stealing' the tv you are watching. Now I really doubt they will pull a "Metalica" and try to fine receivers of protected media some outrageous fee. To be fair more than likely your internet provider will ban you before anything else happens.
However in the case your ISP finds you are conducted illegal actions on their system they will give you a "cease or you will be held accountable" type letter. At which point it will be best to quit using it.
To back up what I say here's some sources that go over most of what I was saying.
http://www.coventrytelegraph.net/news/coventry-news/set-top-tv-boxes-illegal-eve
http://uk.pcmag.com/copyright/67195/news/uk-police-hunting-down-android-tv-boxes
http://www.lifehacker.com.au/2015/04/ask-lh-am-i-breaking-the-law-by-viewing-str |  |
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| Kodi. Phoenix. NjmSoccer. etc etc on 07:10 - Jan 4 with 5352 views | Loyal |
| Kodi. Phoenix. NjmSoccer. etc etc on 21:24 - Jan 3 by Jackfath |
Indeed. But just like websites like 'piratebay' surely those who run the sites will just pop up another 'feed' for us all to use. I can see the broadband providers putting a stop to it, but i am sure there will be work arounds for that too.
Interesting times ahead. |
Did you ever think they were anything but illegal ? |  |
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| Kodi. Phoenix. NjmSoccer. etc etc on 12:00 - Jan 4 with 5207 views | Gh0st |
Of course its illegal.  |  | | |
| Kodi. Phoenix. NjmSoccer. etc etc on 12:27 - Jan 4 with 5179 views | QuakerJack |
The streamers are so far ahead of them at the moment, seems like every two steps Sky/BT/broadband providers take, the streamers/app builders take 10 and with open source (e.g. android) programming/app building it opens this up considerably...
The legality issue isn't as clear cut as people think... as far as I'm aware it's illegal to host the content but perfectly legal for us to watch it (like it isn't our fault if someone's put it online). I don't think you'll ever see individuals in court charged with streaming sport/movies etc. Kodi app software is actually available through Google Playstore and can be put on anything... You could stick it on your phone, ping to your google chromecast and watch games on your 42 inch without a hitch. |  |
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| Kodi. Phoenix. NjmSoccer. etc etc on 15:39 - Jan 4 with 5086 views | Gh0st |
| Kodi. Phoenix. NjmSoccer. etc etc on 12:27 - Jan 4 by QuakerJack |
The streamers are so far ahead of them at the moment, seems like every two steps Sky/BT/broadband providers take, the streamers/app builders take 10 and with open source (e.g. android) programming/app building it opens this up considerably...
The legality issue isn't as clear cut as people think... as far as I'm aware it's illegal to host the content but perfectly legal for us to watch it (like it isn't our fault if someone's put it online). I don't think you'll ever see individuals in court charged with streaming sport/movies etc. Kodi app software is actually available through Google Playstore and can be put on anything... You could stick it on your phone, ping to your google chromecast and watch games on your 42 inch without a hitch. |
It is definitely illegal to watch it, but there is no chance of being arrested/prosecuted.
Interesting article here:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/personalfinance/household-bills/11649188/Coul | | | |
| Kodi. Phoenix. NjmSoccer. etc etc on 17:04 - Jan 4 with 5036 views | Jack_Kass |
Never watched one, call me old fashioned but If the game isn't available on legal television channels, then I'd much rather watch Final Score type programmes, or even listen to it on the radio.
The technology is there to see that you're viewing illegally, it's just about the government waiting for the law to permit them to use it to catch you. | |
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| Kodi. Phoenix. NjmSoccer. etc etc on 17:07 - Jan 4 with 5028 views | Jack_Kass |
It's ironic to me also, that as SKY/BT etc lose a bucketful through illegal streams, that they put their prices up to compensate accordingly, which just feeds back into the vicious circle affecting the match day supporter | |
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| Kodi. Phoenix. NjmSoccer. etc etc on 17:14 - Jan 4 with 5017 views | Gh0st |
| Kodi. Phoenix. NjmSoccer. etc etc on 17:04 - Jan 4 by Jack_Kass |
Never watched one, call me old fashioned but If the game isn't available on legal television channels, then I'd much rather watch Final Score type programmes, or even listen to it on the radio.
The technology is there to see that you're viewing illegally, it's just about the government waiting for the law to permit them to use it to catch you. |
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| Kodi. Phoenix. NjmSoccer. etc etc on 17:19 - Jan 4 with 4999 views | Jack_Kass |
That's nice, is that your favourite cartoon character? I'd love to know | |
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| Kodi. Phoenix. NjmSoccer. etc etc on 18:40 - Jan 4 with 4957 views | Mrgrumpy |
It is NOT definitely illegal to view it, currently the European Law suggests it is legal a Dutch court has just asked the European Court of Justice to clarify the law, see below
“Currently, under EU law, it is not illegal to hold copies of copyright-infringing content if it is held temporarily. The argument is that streaming is a form of temporary possession.
As such, the court asks the ECJ to consider two main questions:
- Is it legal for a product to come complete with links to sources of copyright-infringing content?
- Is it legal to stream copyright-infringing content?”
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/10/13/legalities_of_streamed_video_in_europe/
see also
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copyright_aspects_of_downloading_and_streaming | | | |
| Kodi. Phoenix. NjmSoccer. etc etc on 19:43 - Jan 4 with 4906 views | Jackfath |
So nobody knows.
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| Kodi. Phoenix. NjmSoccer. etc etc on 22:32 - Jan 4 with 4799 views | Loyal |
| Kodi. Phoenix. NjmSoccer. etc etc on 17:04 - Jan 4 by Jack_Kass |
Never watched one, call me old fashioned but If the game isn't available on legal television channels, then I'd much rather watch Final Score type programmes, or even listen to it on the radio.
The technology is there to see that you're viewing illegally, it's just about the government waiting for the law to permit them to use it to catch you. |
I actually agree with you regards the radio and final score etc.
But I do like to fck the system as regularly as possible. ( And my neighbour Glenys ) | |
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| Kodi. Phoenix. NjmSoccer. etc etc on 22:57 - Jan 4 with 4776 views | phact0rri |
Interesting, especially given that streamed data -IS- being cached and the data is stored on your hardrive until either the files are emptied or a certificate is expired. Its a gray area for sure, but it really needs to define what "temporary" means.
Personally the "one backup copy" law we once had in the states worked well, but the digital age, and the "leasing of content" business really is quite problematic to me and why I try to limit how much digital content I buy. Normally its only if its really cheap. I don't like the idea that I don't "own" what I have legally purchased.
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As to the "two steps in front of the authorities". Tell that to Popcorn time or the vendors of the set top boxes being busted left right and center.
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Also Kodi doesn't allow streaming directly to Chromecast. you can however cast your whole screen, to your television but Kodi is pretty unstable and it doesn't work so well. | |
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| Kodi. Phoenix. NjmSoccer. etc etc on 17:12 - Jan 5 with 4667 views | SwaneeRiver |
| Kodi. Phoenix. NjmSoccer. etc etc on 12:27 - Jan 4 by QuakerJack |
The streamers are so far ahead of them at the moment, seems like every two steps Sky/BT/broadband providers take, the streamers/app builders take 10 and with open source (e.g. android) programming/app building it opens this up considerably...
The legality issue isn't as clear cut as people think... as far as I'm aware it's illegal to host the content but perfectly legal for us to watch it (like it isn't our fault if someone's put it online). I don't think you'll ever see individuals in court charged with streaming sport/movies etc. Kodi app software is actually available through Google Playstore and can be put on anything... You could stick it on your phone, ping to your google chromecast and watch games on your 42 inch without a hitch. |
So working on that premise that "it's not our fault if someone's put it online" , do you think that a paedophile will get away using the same argument.
Of course not | | | |
| Kodi. Phoenix. NjmSoccer. etc etc on 17:29 - Jan 5 with 4649 views | cimlajack |
What i can't fathom is the commercial side of the operation.
The end user does n't pay anything.
From personal experience, it is not overburdened with Ads.
Where is the income stream ? | | | |
| Kodi. Phoenix. NjmSoccer. etc etc on 17:36 - Jan 5 with 4635 views | Jackfath |
| Kodi. Phoenix. NjmSoccer. etc etc on 17:12 - Jan 5 by SwaneeRiver |
So working on that premise that "it's not our fault if someone's put it online" , do you think that a paedophile will get away using the same argument.
Of course not |
What a ridiculous argument.
Are you therefore saying people that use and watch streams on Kodi are equivalents of paedophiles? | |
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| Kodi. Phoenix. NjmSoccer. etc etc on 18:40 - Jan 6 with 4539 views | Jackfath |
I am having an issue.
njmsoccer has been hacked and one needs to install another addon to get it to work again. The one is called ares wizard, one can then get njm working again from there.
https://seo-michael.co.uk/tutorial-how-to-install-ares-wizard-kodi/
However when I get to the part where it asks to install from a zip file and then wait for add on enabled, it does not appear and therefore I am stuck at that stage. Any help? what am i doing wrong? Cheers for the help. | |
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| Kodi. Phoenix. NjmSoccer. etc etc on 19:00 - Jan 6 with 4517 views | monmouth |
| Kodi. Phoenix. NjmSoccer. etc etc on 18:40 - Jan 6 by Jackfath |
I am having an issue.
njmsoccer has been hacked and one needs to install another addon to get it to work again. The one is called ares wizard, one can then get njm working again from there.
https://seo-michael.co.uk/tutorial-how-to-install-ares-wizard-kodi/
However when I get to the part where it asks to install from a zip file and then wait for add on enabled, it does not appear and therefore I am stuck at that stage. Any help? what am i doing wrong? Cheers for the help. |
Are you sure it's not enabledeven without the notification? It's worth checking. |  |
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| Kodi. Phoenix. NjmSoccer. etc etc on 19:39 - Jan 6 with 4477 views | Loyal |
| Kodi. Phoenix. NjmSoccer. etc etc on 17:29 - Jan 5 by cimlajack |
What i can't fathom is the commercial side of the operation.
The end user does n't pay anything.
From personal experience, it is not overburdened with Ads.
Where is the income stream ? |
Some people are rewarded in their chosen heaven others by fcking the system 👠| |
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