| US grand jury's decision not to indict? 20:35 - Dec 4 with 5938 views | Swanzay |
Why are they so against prosecuting the relevant white police officers, what going on?
Protests after N.Y. cop not indicted in chokehold death; feds reviewing case
http://edition.cnn.com/2014/12/03/justice/new-york-grand-jury-chokehold/
Same happened Michael Brown shooting in Ferguson, Missouri.
So wrong, show the breadth of corruption in the US on these matters.
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| US grand jury's decision not to indict? on 20:40 - Dec 4 with 2303 views | Darran |
Would they have prosecuted a black police officer in the same situations then? [Post edited 4 Dec 2014 20:46]
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| US grand jury's decision not to indict? on 20:45 - Dec 4 with 2291 views | dickythorpe |
You never see white men rioting when the police shoot white men. |  | | |
| US grand jury's decision not to indict? on 20:48 - Dec 4 with 2282 views | Swanzay |
| US grand jury's decision not to indict? on 20:40 - Dec 4 by Darran |
Would they have prosecuted a black police officer in the same situations then? [Post edited 4 Dec 2014 20:46]
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Thats not the issue though is it, no black officer was involved in these matters. Had the roles been reversed, I'm sure the grand jurys would have prosecute. | | | |
| US grand jury's decision not to indict? on 20:49 - Dec 4 with 2278 views | Tummer_from_Texas |
Because our justice system reviews cases and makes these kinds of decisions based on merit, not what a mob demands. |  |
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| US grand jury's decision not to indict? on 20:52 - Dec 4 with 2262 views | Swanzay |
| US grand jury's decision not to indict? on 20:49 - Dec 4 by Tummer_from_Texas |
Because our justice system reviews cases and makes these kinds of decisions based on merit, not what a mob demands. |
So using an illegal strangle hold is ok? | | | |
| US grand jury's decision not to indict? on 20:54 - Dec 4 with 2257 views | dgt73 |
12-13 % of Americans are black, yet 40% of inmates in prison are black. I suppose this is also the result of those nasty white people and nothing to do with a huge crime problem within the black community in the US. [Post edited 4 Dec 2014 20:55]
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| US grand jury's decision not to indict? on 20:55 - Dec 4 with 2250 views | Joe_bradshaw |
Are you saying that the jurors in these cases are corrupt, bearing in mind that there are more of them than in the actual trials? |  |
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| US grand jury's decision not to indict? on 20:55 - Dec 4 with 2245 views | Jackfath |
| US grand jury's decision not to indict? on 20:54 - Dec 4 by dgt73 |
12-13 % of Americans are black, yet 40% of inmates in prison are black. I suppose this is also the result of those nasty white people and nothing to do with a huge crime problem within the black community in the US. [Post edited 4 Dec 2014 20:55]
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What are the same stats for the uk? |  |
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| US grand jury's decision not to indict? on 20:58 - Dec 4 with 2229 views | Shaky |
| US grand jury's decision not to indict? on 20:55 - Dec 4 by Joe_bradshaw |
Are you saying that the jurors in these cases are corrupt, bearing in mind that there are more of them than in the actual trials? |
The issue is the spinelessness/dishonesty/take your pick of the prosecutors. |  |
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| US grand jury's decision not to indict? on 21:00 - Dec 4 with 2219 views | dgt73 |
| US grand jury's decision not to indict? on 20:55 - Dec 4 by Jackfath |
What are the same stats for the uk? |
A quick look at stats from the prison trust reform indicate :- black population of the uk 2.8%, with blacks making up around 11% of the prison population. | |
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| US grand jury's decision not to indict? on 21:03 - Dec 4 with 2202 views | Joe_bradshaw |
| US grand jury's decision not to indict? on 20:58 - Dec 4 by Shaky |
The issue is the spinelessness/dishonesty/take your pick of the prosecutors. |
Right.
So are they manipulating the evidence put before the grand jury in order to ensure the result that they desire?
Genuine question. I have minimal knowledge of the U.S. justice system and what I do have comes mainly from Law and Order. | |
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| US grand jury's decision not to indict? on 21:05 - Dec 4 with 2189 views | Darran |
It did raise a wry smile when it said on the news earlier that "the asthmatic was selling illegal cigarettes. | |
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| US grand jury's decision not to indict? on 21:07 - Dec 4 with 2179 views | Shaky |
| US grand jury's decision not to indict? on 21:03 - Dec 4 by Joe_bradshaw |
Right.
So are they manipulating the evidence put before the grand jury in order to ensure the result that they desire?
Genuine question. I have minimal knowledge of the U.S. justice system and what I do have comes mainly from Law and Order. |
Have a read of this:
Darren Wilson Is Not an Outlier
http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/politics/2014/12/darren_wilson_n
The key quote is: ". . .any halfway-decent prosecutor can get a grand jury to “indict a ham sandwich” if that’s the outcome she wants." | |
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| US grand jury's decision not to indict? on 21:25 - Dec 4 with 2141 views | Swanzay |
| US grand jury's decision not to indict? on 21:05 - Dec 4 by Darran |
It did raise a wry smile when it said on the news earlier that "the asthmatic was selling illegal cigarettes. |
So you agree he should have met such a demise for said offence and illegal force? [Post edited 4 Dec 2014 21:26]
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| US grand jury's decision not to indict? on 21:37 - Dec 4 with 2122 views | Kilkennyjack |
This is about poverty. The average white american is 80 times wealthier than the average black american. That is down to historical context and education/opportunities. That should help explain the sad prison stats. The way the american establishment has protected their own is a disgrace. That said i think that the american establishment would have protected a black officer just the same. Mass peaceful protests have delivered step change social changes in the usa and sadly it appears that more change is still needed. No winners in any of this. |  |
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| US grand jury's decision not to indict? on 21:45 - Dec 4 with 2110 views | dgt73 |
| US grand jury's decision not to indict? on 21:37 - Dec 4 by Kilkennyjack |
This is about poverty. The average white american is 80 times wealthier than the average black american. That is down to historical context and education/opportunities. That should help explain the sad prison stats. The way the american establishment has protected their own is a disgrace. That said i think that the american establishment would have protected a black officer just the same. Mass peaceful protests have delivered step change social changes in the usa and sadly it appears that more change is still needed. No winners in any of this. |
Complete nonsense. Show me one bit of evidence to back up what you are saying. | |
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| US grand jury's decision not to indict? on 21:53 - Dec 4 with 2094 views | Darran |
| US grand jury's decision not to indict? on 21:25 - Dec 4 by Swanzay |
So you agree he should have met such a demise for said offence and illegal force? [Post edited 4 Dec 2014 21:26]
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No I don't think either of them deserved to die but they were both crims. | |
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| US grand jury's decision not to indict? on 22:00 - Dec 4 with 2078 views | Darran |
And I will add that even though he didn't desereve to die the one in Ferguson was a right f*cking c*nt. | |
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| US grand jury's decision not to indict? on 22:02 - Dec 4 with 2076 views | Swanzay |
| US grand jury's decision not to indict? on 21:53 - Dec 4 by Darran |
No I don't think either of them deserved to die but they were both crims. |
Exactly, neither deserved to die, but the US GA turn a blind eye yet again!
Dont you find it odd? | | | |
| US grand jury's decision not to indict? on 22:03 - Dec 4 with 2075 views | Darran |
| US grand jury's decision not to indict? on 22:02 - Dec 4 by Swanzay |
Exactly, neither deserved to die, but the US GA turn a blind eye yet again!
Dont you find it odd? |
No I don't find it odd at all. | |
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| US grand jury's decision not to indict? on 22:10 - Dec 4 with 2061 views | Jackhero |
| US grand jury's decision not to indict? on 21:53 - Dec 4 by Darran |
No I don't think either of them deserved to die but they were both crims. |
Spot on Darran, if he was an innocent and this happened then this would be tragic, regardless of race. The fact is though he was not, he was selling illegal cigarettes. If he was not then the police would not have had to intervened...no restraint then required..illegal or not. Copper should have been done though. |  |
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| US grand jury's decision not to indict? on 22:30 - Dec 4 with 2037 views | Swanzay |
| US grand jury's decision not to indict? on 22:03 - Dec 4 by Darran |
No I don't find it odd at all. |
So selling tax free cigs in your eyes is punishable by DEATH? | | | |
| US grand jury's decision not to indict? on 22:34 - Dec 4 with 2033 views | Swanzay |
| US grand jury's decision not to indict? on 22:10 - Dec 4 by Jackhero |
Spot on Darran, if he was an innocent and this happened then this would be tragic, regardless of race. The fact is though he was not, he was selling illegal cigarettes. If he was not then the police would not have had to intervened...no restraint then required..illegal or not. Copper should have been done though. |
You agree with Daz, yet agree copper should have been done? | | | |
| US grand jury's decision not to indict? on 22:37 - Dec 4 with 2025 views | Jackhero |
| US grand jury's decision not to indict? on 22:34 - Dec 4 by Swanzay |
You agree with Daz, yet agree copper should have been done? |
correct, what's your point? | |
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| US grand jury's decision not to indict? on 23:12 - Dec 4 with 2000 views | VetchitBack |
Thank god the US aren't so spinelessly cowed by the prevailing political orthodoxy. |  |
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