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Speed camera vehicle confronted 23:06 - Aug 14 with 12145 viewsSwanzay

Bravo to Grant, just shows the reality of what actually goes on!

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=842092179158744

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Speed camera vehicle confronted on 00:12 - Aug 15 with 7643 viewscontroversial_jack

A great example of the policy enforcers and revenue collectors in action. They can be filmed at anytime and anywhere in public and they don't like it.
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Speed camera vehicle confronted on 22:04 - Aug 15 with 7343 viewscentrestandswan

Another superb expose of our free society by Swanzay.


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Speed camera vehicle confronted on 22:12 - Aug 15 with 7328 viewsDarran

Speed camera vehicle confronted on 22:04 - Aug 15 by centrestandswan

Another superb expose of our free society by Swanzay.



It's actually not bad compared to his usual arse dribble.

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Speed camera vehicle confronted on 23:55 - Aug 15 with 7236 viewsshimmie

Speed camera vehicle confronted on 22:12 - Aug 15 by Darran

It's actually not bad compared to his usual arse dribble.


I don't particularly agree with using civilian staff in police roles but that grant pain comes across like a right laugh...someone get the c*** a sky sports subscription or something for f***s sake.
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Speed camera vehicle confronted on 00:09 - Aug 16 with 7220 viewsjack_lord

Someone explain to me the difference between a traffic warden (or whatever they are called these days) and the guy in the Van. The people who walk around giving parking tickets are not police officers so what is the difference?

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Speed camera vehicle confronted on 00:13 - Aug 16 with 7212 viewsJackfath


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Speed camera vehicle confronted on 00:35 - Aug 16 with 7199 viewsHighjack

Speed camera vehicle confronted on 00:09 - Aug 16 by jack_lord

Someone explain to me the difference between a traffic warden (or whatever they are called these days) and the guy in the Van. The people who walk around giving parking tickets are not police officers so what is the difference?


I think it's because speeding is a criminal offence whilst parking is a civil offence.

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Speed camera vehicle confronted on 00:44 - Aug 16 with 7192 viewsHighjack

Speed camera vehicle confronted on 00:12 - Aug 15 by controversial_jack

A great example of the policy enforcers and revenue collectors in action. They can be filmed at anytime and anywhere in public and they don't like it.


I loved the irony of him sitting behind a camera filming hundreds of people against their will complaining that he was being filmed.

The creatures outside looked from pig to man, and from man to pig, and from pig to man again; but already it was impossible to say which was which.
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Speed camera vehicle confronted on 01:29 - Aug 16 with 7169 viewsJackoBoostardo

What is this drivel?! Would tax payers be happy with police officers being holed up in a van instead of patrolling?

Fact is, civilian or not, they're trained to collect this information and operate the camera. The camera is the equipment doing all the work and is legally calibrated to ensure accuracy. If the twange filming this was right in his assumption, then members of the public wouldn't be able to give evidence in court either!

The van is marked with police logos as it is on official police related business. Would people prefer it if it was instead marked with 'Bobs Plumbing Services'??

There are too many people with cameras on YouTube who all of a sudden become legal experts.

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Speed camera vehicle confronted on 10:26 - Aug 16 with 7015 viewscontroversial_jack

Speed camera vehicle confronted on 01:29 - Aug 16 by JackoBoostardo

What is this drivel?! Would tax payers be happy with police officers being holed up in a van instead of patrolling?

Fact is, civilian or not, they're trained to collect this information and operate the camera. The camera is the equipment doing all the work and is legally calibrated to ensure accuracy. If the twange filming this was right in his assumption, then members of the public wouldn't be able to give evidence in court either!

The van is marked with police logos as it is on official police related business. Would people prefer it if it was instead marked with 'Bobs Plumbing Services'??

There are too many people with cameras on YouTube who all of a sudden become legal experts.


t's not official police business though, is it? It's a civilian masquerading as a police officer in a marked police vehicle. The purpose of him being there is to raise revenue form motorists exceeding the speed limit. Speeding is not a criminal offence, but a motoring offence.

Why was the guy so reluctant to be filmed on camera? A genuine police officer would have no objection to being filmed
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Speed camera vehicle confronted on 10:27 - Aug 16 with 7013 viewscontroversial_jack

Speed camera vehicle confronted on 00:13 - Aug 16 by Jackfath



This footage is an absolute disgrace and totally unlawful.
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Speed camera vehicle confronted on 10:57 - Aug 16 with 6954 viewsJackoBoostardo

Speed camera vehicle confronted on 10:26 - Aug 16 by controversial_jack

t's not official police business though, is it? It's a civilian masquerading as a police officer in a marked police vehicle. The purpose of him being there is to raise revenue form motorists exceeding the speed limit. Speeding is not a criminal offence, but a motoring offence.

Why was the guy so reluctant to be filmed on camera? A genuine police officer would have no objection to being filmed


It IS official police business. It is the responsibility of the police to enforce speed regulations! Civilian staff trained to the same standards as officers suffice when it frees up a police officer to patrol the streets. And raising revenue is a cynical response considering how pi55ed you would probably be if a son or daughter of yours was hit by a speeding motorist. Like it or not, cars are becoming more powerful, and many drivers are a55holes behind the wheel.

And why was he so reluctant to be caught on camera? Think about it - he's not exactly going to be mr popular when drivers from the area where he lives start receiving speeding fines and bans is he? And let's not forget, despite what the clown recording says, he has EVERY right to demand the person recording stop.

A genuine police officer CAN insist you stop recording! They tend not to object as they're criticised when they do (by idiots like the guy making the video). Funnily enough, they're also criticised when allow the person to record the video - afterall, that's the idea for these video vigilante's right? F*cking muppets, the lot of them.

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(No subject) (n/t) on 11:22 - Aug 16 with 6922 viewsMrgrumpy

Speed camera vehicle confronted on 10:57 - Aug 16 by JackoBoostardo

It IS official police business. It is the responsibility of the police to enforce speed regulations! Civilian staff trained to the same standards as officers suffice when it frees up a police officer to patrol the streets. And raising revenue is a cynical response considering how pi55ed you would probably be if a son or daughter of yours was hit by a speeding motorist. Like it or not, cars are becoming more powerful, and many drivers are a55holes behind the wheel.

And why was he so reluctant to be caught on camera? Think about it - he's not exactly going to be mr popular when drivers from the area where he lives start receiving speeding fines and bans is he? And let's not forget, despite what the clown recording says, he has EVERY right to demand the person recording stop.

A genuine police officer CAN insist you stop recording! They tend not to object as they're criticised when they do (by idiots like the guy making the video). Funnily enough, they're also criticised when allow the person to record the video - afterall, that's the idea for these video vigilante's right? F*cking muppets, the lot of them.


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Speed camera vehicle confronted on 12:38 - Aug 16 with 6846 viewscontroversial_jack

Speed camera vehicle confronted on 10:57 - Aug 16 by JackoBoostardo

It IS official police business. It is the responsibility of the police to enforce speed regulations! Civilian staff trained to the same standards as officers suffice when it frees up a police officer to patrol the streets. And raising revenue is a cynical response considering how pi55ed you would probably be if a son or daughter of yours was hit by a speeding motorist. Like it or not, cars are becoming more powerful, and many drivers are a55holes behind the wheel.

And why was he so reluctant to be caught on camera? Think about it - he's not exactly going to be mr popular when drivers from the area where he lives start receiving speeding fines and bans is he? And let's not forget, despite what the clown recording says, he has EVERY right to demand the person recording stop.

A genuine police officer CAN insist you stop recording! They tend not to object as they're criticised when they do (by idiots like the guy making the video). Funnily enough, they're also criticised when allow the person to record the video - afterall, that's the idea for these video vigilante's right? F*cking muppets, the lot of them.


A Police officer cannot stop you recording anything in public.If so, cctv would also be illegal
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(No subject) (n/t) on 14:59 - Aug 16 with 6780 viewsMrgrumpy

(No subject) (n/t) on 11:22 - Aug 16 by Mrgrumpy



Photography advice
We encourage officers and the public to be vigilant against terrorism but recognise the importance not only of protecting the public from terrorism but also promoting the freedom of the public and the media to take and publish photographs.

Freedom to photograph and film


Members of the public and the media do not need a permit to film or photograph in public places and police have no power to stop them filming or photographing incidents or police personnel.

Officers do not have the power to delete digital images or destroy film at any point during a search. Deletion or destruction may only take place following seizure if there is a lawful power (such as a court order) that permits such deletion or destruction…

It would ordinarily be unlawful to use section 58A to arrest people photographing police officers in the course of normal policing activities, including protests because there would not normally be grounds for suspecting that the photographs were being taken to provide assistance to a terrorist. An arrest would only be lawful if an arresting officer had a reasonable suspicion that the photographs were being taken in order to provide practical assistance to a person committing or preparing an act of terrorism…

Guidelines for MPS staff on dealing with media reporters, press photographers and television crews
There is nothing preventing officers asking questions of an individual who appears to be taking photographs of someone who is or has been a member of Her Majesty’s Forces (HMF), Intelligence Services or a constable so long as this is being done for a lawful purpose and is not being done in a way that prevents, dissuades or inhibits the individual from doing something which is not unlawful….

The press and the public
If someone distressed or bereaved asks the police to stop the media recording them, the request can be passed on to the media, but not enforced.

http://content.met.police.uk/Site/photographyadvice
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Speed camera vehicle confronted on 15:09 - Aug 16 with 6771 viewsJackoBoostardo

Speed camera vehicle confronted on 12:38 - Aug 16 by controversial_jack

A Police officer cannot stop you recording anything in public.If so, cctv would also be illegal


ANYONE can tell you to stop recording! It's the rights of the individual being recorded, otherwise the person recording is committing a public order offense.

Why do you think CCTV is advertised before hand by those bright stickers with signs saying "CCTV in use" - to make you aware you are being recorded. CCTV cameras in shopping centres, towns and elsewhere are law enforcement necessities.

These so-called video vigilantes are nothing more than a bunch of annoying mugs! FACT.

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Speed camera vehicle confronted on 15:46 - Aug 16 with 6726 viewsMrgrumpy

Speed camera vehicle confronted on 15:09 - Aug 16 by JackoBoostardo

ANYONE can tell you to stop recording! It's the rights of the individual being recorded, otherwise the person recording is committing a public order offense.

Why do you think CCTV is advertised before hand by those bright stickers with signs saying "CCTV in use" - to make you aware you are being recorded. CCTV cameras in shopping centres, towns and elsewhere are law enforcement necessities.

These so-called video vigilantes are nothing more than a bunch of annoying mugs! FACT.


Members of the public and the media do not need a permit to film or photograph in public places and police have no power to stop them filming or photographing incidents or police personnel.

The press and the public
If someone distressed or bereaved asks the police to stop the media recording them, the request can be passed on to the media, but not enforced.
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Speed camera vehicle confronted on 16:17 - Aug 16 with 6691 viewskeeponrockin

Am I missing something here?

This guy is getting into an absolute hissy fit over nothing. The plod annoy me at times but this isn't one, it's actually quite sensible for the person operating the camera to be a civilian feck me he might be an engineer has the plonker thought of that?

The only issue in that video is the arrogance of that woman cop infringing on his space but I have no sympathy overall the guy is another one of these jumped up too much time on his hands trendy clown
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Speed camera vehicle confronted on 18:31 - Aug 16 with 6641 viewscontroversial_jack

Speed camera vehicle confronted on 15:09 - Aug 16 by JackoBoostardo

ANYONE can tell you to stop recording! It's the rights of the individual being recorded, otherwise the person recording is committing a public order offense.

Why do you think CCTV is advertised before hand by those bright stickers with signs saying "CCTV in use" - to make you aware you are being recorded. CCTV cameras in shopping centres, towns and elsewhere are law enforcement necessities.

These so-called video vigilantes are nothing more than a bunch of annoying mugs! FACT.


There is no expectancy of privacy when in a public area. Not all cctv is advertised , and if it was do you think we could object and say don't record me.

If you don't want to be recorded in public; touch shit!
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Speed camera vehicle confronted on 18:48 - Aug 16 with 6615 viewsJackoBoostardo

Speed camera vehicle confronted on 18:31 - Aug 16 by controversial_jack

There is no expectancy of privacy when in a public area. Not all cctv is advertised , and if it was do you think we could object and say don't record me.

If you don't want to be recorded in public; touch shit!


We are contreversial today aren't we?? And wrong too.

Check out Eu regulations.

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Speed camera vehicle confronted on 18:52 - Aug 16 with 6612 viewsexiledclaseboy

Speed camera vehicle confronted on 18:48 - Aug 16 by JackoBoostardo

We are contreversial today aren't we?? And wrong too.

Check out Eu regulations.


We went through this at length on here a few months ago. There's no telling him.

There are no laws against taking photographs (or moving images) in a public place. Except where there are laws that restrict the taking of photographs (or moving images) in a public place.

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Speed camera vehicle confronted on 19:00 - Aug 16 with 6601 viewscontroversial_jack

Speed camera vehicle confronted on 18:48 - Aug 16 by JackoBoostardo

We are contreversial today aren't we?? And wrong too.

Check out Eu regulations.


No laws or restrictions whatsoever. Anything in the public domain is fair game, that's why it's called public.
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Speed camera vehicle confronted on 19:03 - Aug 16 with 6595 viewslifelong

I thought Grant was being a prik and should be done for attempting to pervert the course of justice.
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Speed camera vehicle confronted on 19:04 - Aug 16 with 6592 viewscontroversial_jack

Speed camera vehicle confronted on 19:03 - Aug 16 by lifelong

I thought Grant was being a prik and should be done for attempting to pervert the course of justice.


Why?
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Speed camera vehicle confronted on 19:14 - Aug 16 with 6579 viewslifelong

Speed camera vehicle confronted on 19:04 - Aug 16 by controversial_jack

Why?


Because that speed camera operator was there to detect drivers breaking the law, he was obstructing him from doing so.
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