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And when are the Palestinians going to stop launching missiles into Israel? They may not have killed many Israelis so far, but to be fair to them they're doing their best.
Death toll in Israel and Palestine so far, a couple of hundred. Death toll in Syria so far, a couple of hundred thousand.
There needs to be a ceasefire, and the Americans are the only ones who can impose it on both sides.
And when are the Palestinians going to stop launching missiles into Israel? They may not have killed many Israelis so far, but to be fair to them they're doing their best.
Death toll in Israel and Palestine so far, a couple of hundred. Death toll in Syria so far, a couple of hundred thousand.
There needs to be a ceasefire, and the Americans are the only ones who can impose it on both sides.
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The will never be peace as long as there's Apartheid for the Palestinians
Have you ever considered becoming a diplomatic envoy, Dar?
I think you'd be awfully good at it
It's true though even if one country is bigger than they both need a kick up the ring,I know I'm simplifying it but it's the 21st century now not the 1940s.
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It's true though even if one country is bigger than they both need a kick up the ring,I know I'm simplifying it but it's the 21st century now not the 1940s.
Many of the middle east problems go back further than 1948, they go back to after ww1 .Ask any Arab about the Sykes- Picot agreement
The world stands by and watches whilst Israel commits genocide, wtf would you do if your land was stolen, Thousands of innocent children and women murdered by the Israelies over the years
The world stands by and watches whilst Israel commits genocide, wtf would you do if your land was stolen, Thousands of innocent children and women murdered by the Israelies over the years
Arab /islamist /Palastine supporters bomb people from all over the world. They send rockets into Israel, who apparently have to take it co they are Jewish.
Israel overreacts for sure but every single country surrounding Israel wants to wipe it from the map. Palastine has been a source of angst for George GALLOWAY for years which is all I need. Its also been the case for much action by the Redgraves and other Arty people .Its fashionable to support PALASTINE and anyone supporting Israel s right to exist gets hammered. I think Im off out
Arab /islamist /Palastine supporters bomb people from all over the world. They send rockets into Israel, who apparently have to take it co they are Jewish.
Israel overreacts for sure but every single country surrounding Israel wants to wipe it from the map. Palastine has been a source of angst for George GALLOWAY for years which is all I need. Its also been the case for much action by the Redgraves and other Arty people .Its fashionable to support PALASTINE and anyone supporting Israel s right to exist gets hammered. I think Im off out
Can you show me where any Arab leader has called for Israel to be wiped off the face of the map?
If Israel left the occupied territories then there would be no problem
Of course there wouldn't. If that happened everyone would just happily accept Israel's right to exist and they'd all walk arm in arm down the street together whilst flowers bloom and rainbows fill the skies.
Israel is surrounded by nations that would like nothing more than to drive them into the sea, and have done since the state came into being, long before any territories were "occupied". Withdrawing from them will not change that.
The only thing that will stop it is for the entire area to become a UN mandate with guaranteed right of security, passage and habitation in all areas for any relevant parties, and even that wouldn't stop the crazies on both sides from wanting to blow each other up, either with missiles or suicide vests.
Pain or damage don't end the world. Or despair, or f*cking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man... and give some back.
The circle of violence just goes on and on. A family on either side loses a loved one and one more family knows only hate for the opposite side.
I know little of the atrocities that Israel inflicts on the Palestinians to comment, but why can't both sides draw the line, hate each other yes but for the good of all just leave each other alone, simplistic I know but how it should be.
I can't understand why the other Arab states don't come to the Palestinians aide in providing finance to invest in the infrastructure of Palestine?
A simple rule of thumb by Israel is don't mess with us, if you do, you'll have it back ten fold. A country surrounded by Arab states, many of whom have an agenda to wipe Israel off the face of the earth, can you blame their mentality?
Arab /islamist /Palastine supporters bomb people from all over the world. They send rockets into Israel, who apparently have to take it co they are Jewish.
Israel overreacts for sure but every single country surrounding Israel wants to wipe it from the map. Palastine has been a source of angst for George GALLOWAY for years which is all I need. Its also been the case for much action by the Redgraves and other Arty people .Its fashionable to support PALASTINE and anyone supporting Israel s right to exist gets hammered. I think Im off out
Yet Israel are hardly the the innocent party here, despite the history of prejudice against them (well, attempts to annihilate them). There was a political solution to the land ownership that briefly brought stability. But then a generation inspired by biblical fervour decided that wasn't enough and they started invading neighbouring states and grabbing what they could. Because the bible tells them to. Anyone who thinks the bible trumps political mandate when it comes to boundary disputes is a bit of a nut job.
The circle of violence just goes on and on. A family on either side loses a loved one and one more family knows only hate for the opposite side.
I know little of the atrocities that Israel inflicts on the Palestinians to comment, but why can't both sides draw the line, hate each other yes but for the good of all just leave each other alone, simplistic I know but how it should be.
I can't understand why the other Arab states don't come to the Palestinians aide in providing finance to invest in the infrastructure of Palestine?
A simple rule of thumb by Israel is don't mess with us, if you do, you'll have it back ten fold. A country surrounded by Arab states, many of whom have an agenda to wipe Israel off the face of the earth, can you blame their mentality?
Indeed, well said. It's human nature to dislike or at least mistrust others who are 'different' from us, even though we are essentially all the same. Pretty sad really on many levels.
To claim the Palestinians have no army in naive to say the least. They have equipment and commandos who have been trained by Iranian guard. They've been conducting guerilla attacks and firing Iranian supplied medium and short range rockets over the border. Palestine have even gone as far as to televise their new commandos in action, glorifying their activities.
Truth is, both sides need an ass kicking to sort out the differences. Easier said than done though when virtually every Arab state hates the Israelis.
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To claim the Palestinians have no army in naive to say the least. They have equipment and commandos who have been trained by Iranian guard. They've been conducting guerilla attacks and firing Iranian supplied medium and short range rockets over the border. Palestine have even gone as far as to televise their new commandos in action, glorifying their activities.
Truth is, both sides need an ass kicking to sort out the differences. Easier said than done though when virtually every Arab state hates the Israelis.
Problem is, not only do they hate the Israelis, they hate each other. Sunni, shite, Hezbollah, Hamas, PLO, Isis, All Shabbab, to name but a few. All murdering b*stards that wouldn't think twice about sticking a bomb under a school bus full of kids in any country around the world, if it suited their twisted political ends.
About 95% of all Muslims murdered, are murdered by Muslim terrorists and not by Israelis.
If Israel left the occupied territories then there would be no problem
Utter, utter bollox.
They would still try to wipe Israel off the map. There are lots of Islamic states in the world but there is only one Jewish one. It has a right to exist and defend itself when attacked.
They would still try to wipe Israel off the map. There are lots of Islamic states in the world but there is only one Jewish one. It has a right to exist and defend itself when attacked.
Complete nonsense Glyn, to suggest there is only one Jewish state. The biggest one is the USA
The will never be peace as long as there's Apartheid for the Palestinians
Palestine is a separate country from Israel so I don't understand what you're saying there.
Arab Israelis have EXACTLY the same legal rights as everyone else and have their MPs in Israel's parliament. That's a lot different from the treatment of Islamic and other minorities in the rest of the Middle East. And perhaps the reason that there's no apartheid in Israel is because it's the only Democracy in the Middle East.
Ceasefire by both sides now is the only option. PLUS A major investment in the infrastructure of Palestine by Dubai, Qatar and the other oil-rich Arab nations rather than building shopping malls or buying football clubs. Why the f**k haven't they done that already? (Serious question.)