| HMV 08:53 - Feb 8 with 6528 views | Statzdale |
HMV to close in Rochdale , another store bites the dust.
Will the last one to leave turn off the lights
Plus the big HMV is shutting on Market Street in Manchester also [Post edited 1 Jan 1970 1:00]
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| HMV on 18:00 - Feb 8 with 1224 views | MBoothman |
| HMV on 17:10 - Feb 8 by Dale57 |
Surely people would need to earn money somewhere to use such places as bars and resturaunts etc.I cannot see people from outside the town just coming to use those.Farming and industry need to be reintroduced into this country.as well as mining because its totally unnecptable that uk mines have shut so crappy cheap coal can come from China.Now we have god knows what in imported products and god knows what people eat in kabab houses etc after a few beers. |
Given that the population of the Rochdale borough is above 200,000, I'd argue that you don't need people from elsewhere.
As for farming and industry; farming is still viable here, but on a scale that is completely different to the one 50/60 years ago. Don't think 'hundreds of small farms' but instead think 'dozens of huge farms'. Farming now is being carried out on a mechanized level with very few actual employees. They have industrialised the farming industry to keep up with the cheap cost of imports; margins have been squeezed so that only the really big farms (which have supermarket contracts) or the really good local quality farms (which sell direct to the consumer) can really make profit. A lot relies on consumers making choices though; time to stop munching on the imported horse burgers and start eating some British red tractor meat.
Industry will return only if it is viable; which at the moment is not. We cannot compete with the cheap labour of China, but nor can we compete (with a few exceptions, ie cars) with the more high-tech industries, due to our frankly shocking education system. Like it or not, mining has long gone and will remain that way for the foreseeable future. Or would you rather everyone's tax went up to pay to subsidise mines which wouldn't employ that many people (mining has also increasingly mechanised, like farming).
We can now do so much production with so few people. Now we just have to figure out what the rest of the people do. |  |
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| HMV on 18:06 - Feb 8 with 1219 views | nordenblue |
| HMV on 12:58 - Feb 8 by rod_leach |
I'm guessing that you mean people with an Asian ancestry, rather than visitors. Born and raised in Rochdale makes people not visitors. Having a UK passport make people not visitors. |
"Allowing " so many unemployable people into the country and continuing to do so is financial suicide,these people regardless of ethnic origin or skin colour are no use to the economy of the town, can't remember the exact statistic but the amount of people who are unable to speak the language to start with is nothing short of ridiculous.Many people come to this country for a better lifestyle,that i have no issue with but the fact is that whatever money made by countless thousands of individuals is often being taken out of the country and of no benefit at all to the economy,not to mention the child benefit currently claimed for children not even residing in this country,you really couldn't make it up.
The town has been an a rapidly steep slope sadly for some years for numerous reasons done to death previously on here | | | |
| HMV on 18:32 - Feb 8 with 1201 views | ceme_ender |
| HMV on 18:06 - Feb 8 by nordenblue |
"Allowing " so many unemployable people into the country and continuing to do so is financial suicide,these people regardless of ethnic origin or skin colour are no use to the economy of the town, can't remember the exact statistic but the amount of people who are unable to speak the language to start with is nothing short of ridiculous.Many people come to this country for a better lifestyle,that i have no issue with but the fact is that whatever money made by countless thousands of individuals is often being taken out of the country and of no benefit at all to the economy,not to mention the child benefit currently claimed for children not even residing in this country,you really couldn't make it up.
The town has been an a rapidly steep slope sadly for some years for numerous reasons done to death previously on here |
Hear, hear. | | | |
| HMV on 18:34 - Feb 8 with 1202 views | Dale57 |
| HMV on 18:00 - Feb 8 by MBoothman |
Given that the population of the Rochdale borough is above 200,000, I'd argue that you don't need people from elsewhere.
As for farming and industry; farming is still viable here, but on a scale that is completely different to the one 50/60 years ago. Don't think 'hundreds of small farms' but instead think 'dozens of huge farms'. Farming now is being carried out on a mechanized level with very few actual employees. They have industrialised the farming industry to keep up with the cheap cost of imports; margins have been squeezed so that only the really big farms (which have supermarket contracts) or the really good local quality farms (which sell direct to the consumer) can really make profit. A lot relies on consumers making choices though; time to stop munching on the imported horse burgers and start eating some British red tractor meat.
Industry will return only if it is viable; which at the moment is not. We cannot compete with the cheap labour of China, but nor can we compete (with a few exceptions, ie cars) with the more high-tech industries, due to our frankly shocking education system. Like it or not, mining has long gone and will remain that way for the foreseeable future. Or would you rather everyone's tax went up to pay to subsidise mines which wouldn't employ that many people (mining has also increasingly mechanised, like farming).
We can now do so much production with so few people. Now we just have to figure out what the rest of the people do. |
I know what your saying about the farming.People in this country are being hoodwinked into thinking that products are british,when the reality of it is that a british company owns the superfarm in say "Ukraine" where all the products are force grown with who knows what and look like they have all fallen out of the same mould.I agree with progress and all for it,but to use the label "progress" to cover up the greed factor aint right.Thing is what i find interesting,is this progress thing has taken us back to the 1930's so maybe its time to look at what works and what do'snt work with progress. |  | | |
| HMV on 20:09 - Feb 8 with 1166 views | robshaker |
HMV Bury is staying open so none of you will be effected as I've heard everyone in rochdale does there shopping in Bury now anyway...
'Bury -Britains Boom Town'
M.E.N | | | |
| HMV on 20:24 - Feb 8 with 1146 views | sandylaner1 |
| HMV on 20:09 - Feb 8 by robshaker |
HMV Bury is staying open so none of you will be effected as I've heard everyone in rochdale does there shopping in Bury now anyway...
'Bury -Britains Boom Town'
M.E.N |
okay
[Post edited 1 Jan 1970 1:00]
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| HMV on 20:34 - Feb 8 with 1139 views | off2div1 |
| HMV on 16:06 - Feb 8 by YouTubeDale |
That's how I remember it, a real hustle and bustle and full of white faces. Yes, I agree we have fallen victim to "progress" with the enormous impact of the internet, out of towns (the Trafford Centre should never,ever had been given the green light) and supermarkets as already said. We are sensitive to Rochdale but this is happening all over the country.
As far as the "white faces" comment is concerned there has been such a massive change in my generation. And it is the rate of change which is alarming. Rochdale isn't the same place any more. Rochdale is a different place.
But I am not a racist. I have Asian friends and we have to accept the situation and live in harmony. On a footballing front I just wish Asians would represent their share of the population and turn up to watch THEIR football team too, since they are Rochdalians.
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Next time you get a free ticket to bring a freind along why don't you bring one of you asain freinds. |  | | |
| HMV on 20:37 - Feb 8 with 1133 views | TVOS1907 |
| HMV on 20:09 - Feb 8 by robshaker |
HMV Bury is staying open so none of you will be effected as I've heard everyone in rochdale does there shopping in Bury now anyway...
'Bury -Britains Boom Town'
M.E.N |
Flamin' Nora. Where have you sprung up from, rob? |  |
| When I was your age, I used to enjoy the odd game of tennis. Or was it golf? |
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| HMV on 20:40 - Feb 8 with 1131 views | off2div1 |
| HMV on 17:10 - Feb 8 by Dale57 |
Surely people would need to earn money somewhere to use such places as bars and resturaunts etc.I cannot see people from outside the town just coming to use those.Farming and industry need to be reintroduced into this country.as well as mining because its totally unnecptable that uk mines have shut so crappy cheap coal can come from China.Now we have god knows what in imported products and god knows what people eat in kabab houses etc after a few beers. |
A kebab I presume but after a few beers you may show your true feelings then I wouldn't blame them for what they put in your kebab.By the way you need to change your avatar the son of god would not preach like you. | | | |
| HMV on 20:43 - Feb 8 with 1125 views | Sandyman |
| HMV on 20:37 - Feb 8 by TVOS1907 |
Flamin' Nora. Where have you sprung up from, rob? |
bury won last weekend. |  | | |
| HMV on 20:58 - Feb 8 with 1108 views | Shun |
The town centre needs a cinema. |  | | |
| HMV on 21:11 - Feb 8 with 1094 views | off2div1 |
What about making the River Roch a canoe slalom then you could watch them from the top of the Rochdale Eye. | | | |
| HMV on 09:25 - Feb 9 with 1049 views | G_Dale |
"Rochdales a shit hole, we already know" | |
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| HMV on 09:31 - Feb 9 with 1045 views | G_Dale |
I've little faith that Rochdale town centre will ever recover. Look at that photo from the 60s and compare it to now. When I go into Rochdale, 80% of the people are junkies, alcoholics, idiots and doleys (I don't mean people who genuinely look for work, I mean the have ten kids, a crap neck tattoo and a matching shell suit doleys).
I have no idea how to make it recover, but I'm sure as shit that a big wheel won't help, and a metrolink to take people away (that also has virtually closed half the town centre during its construction. New bus station too. Great idea. That will bring people in.
This town went downhill the day that dreams closed | |
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| HMV on 09:56 - Feb 9 with 1039 views | bilbobaggins |
| HMV on 11:31 - Feb 8 by Syke_Dale |
The likes of which will never be seen again in this town  |
something about this picture that people have not picked up on i am not going to say it as it might be taken the wrong way but lets say some people want everything cheap no matter what the cost of job and rise in crime
then again its most of them dealing drug and committing crime in rochdale
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| HMV on 11:13 - Feb 9 with 1008 views | roccydaleian |
| HMV on 09:56 - Feb 9 by bilbobaggins |
something about this picture that people have not picked up on i am not going to say it as it might be taken the wrong way but lets say some people want everything cheap no matter what the cost of job and rise in crime
then again its most of them dealing drug and committing crime in rochdale
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WTF. |  | | |
| HMV on 11:27 - Feb 9 with 1000 views | Dale57 |
| HMV on 09:56 - Feb 9 by bilbobaggins |
something about this picture that people have not picked up on i am not going to say it as it might be taken the wrong way but lets say some people want everything cheap no matter what the cost of job and rise in crime
then again its most of them dealing drug and committing crime in rochdale
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Something i have noticed is that my mother and little sister are in the pic and it looks like the sales are on. | | | |
| HMV on 11:28 - Feb 9 with 1000 views | 442Dale |
Think that was Poirot summing up at the end of Death on the Nile. |  |
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| HMV on 11:46 - Feb 9 with 990 views | D_Alien |
| HMV on 11:28 - Feb 9 by 442Dale |
Think that was Poirot summing up at the end of Death on the Nile. |
I'd say closer to King Lear's lament at the world |  |
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| HMV on 13:35 - Feb 9 with 957 views | Yorkshire_Dale |
Has anyone got any similar shots to the one posted here?
They make great topics of discussion. | | | |
| HMV on 13:39 - Feb 9 with 950 views | olympicdale |
It's like we have just discovered fire in this town sometimes. If i go out taking pictures I'm confronted with about 3/4 people asking what the hell I'm up to, cant even hide in trees around playgrounds anymore without looking suspicious, what is this world coming to.. |  |
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| HMV on 13:48 - Feb 9 with 941 views | Dale57 |
| HMV on 13:35 - Feb 9 by Yorkshire_Dale |
Has anyone got any similar shots to the one posted here?
They make great topics of discussion. |
Would be nice to see some old pics of the inside/outside market and that little walkway at the bottom of yorkshire st on the left.Can anyone remember the name of the clothes shop on the right of the aforesaid walkway.I remember thats where i used to purchase my seadog jeans.Then it was off up to Stewards for a cheap shirt,lol | | | |
| HMV on 13:57 - Feb 9 with 927 views | Yorkshire_Dale |
| HMV on 13:48 - Feb 9 by Dale57 |
Would be nice to see some old pics of the inside/outside market and that little walkway at the bottom of yorkshire st on the left.Can anyone remember the name of the clothes shop on the right of the aforesaid walkway.I remember thats where i used to purchase my seadog jeans.Then it was off up to Stewards for a cheap shirt,lol |
or if you were really flushed,go across to Jonathon's further up Drake Street? | | | |
| HMV on 14:10 - Feb 9 with 915 views | Dale57 |
| HMV on 13:57 - Feb 9 by Yorkshire_Dale |
or if you were really flushed,go across to Jonathon's further up Drake Street? |
Then there was the one at the bottom of Drake st,cant remember the name,was that not Jonathons. | | | |
| HMV on 15:00 - Feb 9 with 891 views | ArthurDaley |
| HMV on 14:10 - Feb 9 by Dale57 |
Then there was the one at the bottom of Drake st,cant remember the name,was that not Jonathons. |
I think his first name was Harvey, cant remember what the second name was.
He started of in a shop near what was the old market, then moved to the bottom of Drake St. Then i think he had a short move round the corner. |  |
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