| Time to go Jim. The turning point 16:36 - Feb 22 with 19602 views | ThreeLions |
Losing to the team on top and in form is no great shame but the way you do it by playing absolute dross is clearly on show this afternoon. Today has to be the turning point that the owners see it's not working and we need a change if we are to save the season.
Crowds are falling, the players look totally demotivated and drained of any spark they once held. I've given him a bit longer to sort it out after him sticking with us last season when we were on the brink of nonexistence but you can't run a football team off the past and the current and future holds more importance.
Thanks for everything Jim we appreciate it but it's just not working. |  | | |  |
| Time to go Jim. The turning point on 21:19 - Feb 25 with 6150 views | joecooke |
Times up for me on the manager. |  |
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| Time to go Jim. The turning point on 21:41 - Feb 25 with 5874 views | dalepunch |
It’s time for him to go he is out of his depth and has run out of ideas. The team is poor Rodney is shocking how he is in the squad I don’t know. Jim if you love the club please just go. |  | | |
| Time to go Jim. The turning point on 07:13 - Feb 26 with 5445 views | rochedale |
| Time to go Jim. The turning point on 20:48 - Feb 25 by TalkingSutty |
The reason he was sacked was because he took on the whole fan base and said that they were wrong to have expectations in respect of the play offs and also belittled the club in a post match interview.They were in the play offs at the time. The Chairman had very little choice but to replace him. Constantly picking fights for no reason. Their fans forum was very telling at the time, the fans hated him even though he had them at the right end of the table. He did the same with the Bolton fans on Radio Bolton after they lost 7-1 at Accrington and stated the fans should realise where the club was...they had one of the largest budgets in the league at the time and just been taken to the cleaners by Accrington. A bit like McNulty telling us how great part time Tamworth are. [Post edited 25 Feb 20:56]
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Like I said, I couldn’t care less what he says in post match interviews, I actually found quite a lot of them enjoyable, rather than the media trained PC rubbish most come up with. The likelihood is, he would do a job for us, one that he’s done both other times, one which nobody else has.
Why are people so bothered about what he says post match? It’s about what he does on the field. Yes, I agree it wasn’t great at the end, but it’s telling that nothing has been since, which tells you also it’s due to something deeper at the club, which we all know already.
Bring him back! It’s worth a shot, as nothing else is coming close to what we had when he’s been here before. |  |
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| Time to go Jim. The turning point on 10:01 - Feb 26 with 5172 views | wheniwasyourage |
Keith's - Best manager in my time, I loved his post match comments. I don't even bother with Jim's or even BBS - too boring.
But I don't think Keith will manage a team again... I just don't think he enjoys it anymore. | | | |
| Time to go Jim. The turning point on 10:04 - Feb 26 with 5155 views | Nigeriamark |
| Time to go Jim. The turning point on 10:01 - Feb 26 by wheniwasyourage |
Keith's - Best manager in my time, I loved his post match comments. I don't even bother with Jim's or even BBS - too boring.
But I don't think Keith will manage a team again... I just don't think he enjoys it anymore. |
Looks like he will be a speaker at the April Curry night. That'll be an interesting night !!! |  | | |
| Time to go Jim. The turning point on 10:56 - Feb 26 with 5031 views | Bainesy15 |
| Time to go Jim. The turning point on 20:39 - Feb 25 by rochedale |
Ah, should’ve known!
I really didn’t feel inclined to comment, as I said, I wasn’t there. He heard through a friend who was there something along those lines, I had absolutely no reason to comment on Chinese whispers.
FYI, I commented on KH’s departure from Tranmere, based on facts/league position when he left. Not many managers get sacked in a play off position, certainly in the lower leagues. |
I was there, he said about this being a different generation of people let alone footballers and that his methods wouldn't work.
That should be the end of it. It didn't work when he was last here, it wouldn't work 7 years later.
This constant desire to get a has-been manager back at the club is exhausting - if he came back, he'd only serve to spoil his phenomenal legacy at the club.
Managerial change yes, Hilly no. |  | | |
| Time to go Jim. The turning point on 12:10 - Feb 26 with 4850 views | D_Alien |
| Time to go Jim. The turning point on 10:56 - Feb 26 by Bainesy15 |
I was there, he said about this being a different generation of people let alone footballers and that his methods wouldn't work.
That should be the end of it. It didn't work when he was last here, it wouldn't work 7 years later.
This constant desire to get a has-been manager back at the club is exhausting - if he came back, he'd only serve to spoil his phenomenal legacy at the club.
Managerial change yes, Hilly no. |
As if on cue, an insight into the current generation of footballers
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/cge17835e3eo |  |
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| Time to go Jim. The turning point on 12:33 - Feb 26 with 4754 views | judd |
| Time to go Jim. The turning point on 10:56 - Feb 26 by Bainesy15 |
I was there, he said about this being a different generation of people let alone footballers and that his methods wouldn't work.
That should be the end of it. It didn't work when he was last here, it wouldn't work 7 years later.
This constant desire to get a has-been manager back at the club is exhausting - if he came back, he'd only serve to spoil his phenomenal legacy at the club.
Managerial change yes, Hilly no. |
Bows & arrows have won us a few wars. |  |
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| Time to go Jim. The turning point on 13:34 - Feb 26 with 4581 views | EllDale |
The ironic thing is that I remember reading an interview with BBM in an Irish newspaper when he got the job at City where he said that his footballing philosophy was partially moulded by Hilly who force fed them videos of the original Pep Barcelona team, enthusing how they’d footballed opponents to death. | | | |
| Time to go Jim. The turning point on 15:07 - Feb 26 with 4375 views | kel |
| Time to go Jim. The turning point on 10:56 - Feb 26 by Bainesy15 |
I was there, he said about this being a different generation of people let alone footballers and that his methods wouldn't work.
That should be the end of it. It didn't work when he was last here, it wouldn't work 7 years later.
This constant desire to get a has-been manager back at the club is exhausting - if he came back, he'd only serve to spoil his phenomenal legacy at the club.
Managerial change yes, Hilly no. |
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| Time to go Jim. The turning point on 17:00 - Feb 26 with 4066 views | AtThePeake |
| Time to go Jim. The turning point on 18:30 - Feb 25 by TalkingSutty |
With one of the top budgets in the league. I think Bolton lost 7-1 at Accrington when Hill was managing them. That scoreline needs some digesting. [Post edited 25 Feb 18:33]
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I don't want Hill back but in all fairness to him that budget was not huge by all accounts and he was hired about 30 hours before the end of the deadline just after the takeover had gone through. They'd only signed one player all summer then signed 8 on deadline day. I'm not defending the job he did there cause he still underperformed IMO but I don't think it's particularly fair to point to his budget without mentioning those constraints too. |  |
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| Time to go Jim. The turning point on 17:30 - Feb 26 with 3976 views | TalkingSutty |
| Time to go Jim. The turning point on 17:00 - Feb 26 by AtThePeake |
I don't want Hill back but in all fairness to him that budget was not huge by all accounts and he was hired about 30 hours before the end of the deadline just after the takeover had gone through. They'd only signed one player all summer then signed 8 on deadline day. I'm not defending the job he did there cause he still underperformed IMO but I don't think it's particularly fair to point to his budget without mentioning those constraints too. |
Fair point but I'm willing to bet his budget at Bolton was still well in excess of Accringtons. Scunthorpe was a total disaster. He gave us the best time ever as Dale fans, thats what he should be remembered for, in the end he'd lost the plot though. [Post edited 26 Feb 17:34]
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| Time to go Jim. The turning point on 18:35 - Feb 26 with 3798 views | AtThePeake |
| Time to go Jim. The turning point on 17:30 - Feb 26 by TalkingSutty |
Fair point but I'm willing to bet his budget at Bolton was still well in excess of Accringtons. Scunthorpe was a total disaster. He gave us the best time ever as Dale fans, thats what he should be remembered for, in the end he'd lost the plot though. [Post edited 26 Feb 17:34]
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Possibly, but it's hard to build a squad in a few days. When we beat them that season at their place I don't think they'd won a game yet and they still looked like a team of strangers and kids. I think there were accentuating circumstances at Bolton but the Scunthorpe spell showed he's a busted flush. | |
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| Time to go Jim. The turning point on 18:51 - Feb 26 with 3740 views | TalkingSutty |
| Time to go Jim. The turning point on 18:35 - Feb 26 by AtThePeake |
Possibly, but it's hard to build a squad in a few days. When we beat them that season at their place I don't think they'd won a game yet and they still looked like a team of strangers and kids. I think there were accentuating circumstances at Bolton but the Scunthorpe spell showed he's a busted flush. |
Yes, very true in respect to that game. | | | |
| Time to go Jim. The turning point on 21:33 - Mar 8 with 2356 views | ThreeLions |
Well we seem to have turned a corner after some terrible performances prior to the last week. Let's hope consistency and a new approach from the manager brings us some great football to watch and who knows what it will bring by the end of the season. I will very happily admit I was wrong if that's the case. | | | |
| Time to go Jim. The turning point on 00:58 - Mar 9 with 2035 views | dingdangblue |
| Time to go Jim. The turning point on 21:33 - Mar 8 by ThreeLions |
Well we seem to have turned a corner after some terrible performances prior to the last week. Let's hope consistency and a new approach from the manager brings us some great football to watch and who knows what it will bring by the end of the season. I will very happily admit I was wrong if that's the case. |
Its amazing the difference one player can make. Bird has come in and seems to have given the whole squad a bit of a boost. We can now rotate Mitchell rather than flog him every game - a bit of competition and he looked whole lot better when he came off the bench today. Jim may talk of poor pitches and fatigue but when you are winning games the players probably can't wait for the next game to come around. |  |
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| Time to go Jim. The turning point on 21:38 - Mar 11 with 1128 views | ThreeLions |
Well Jim is certainly sticking two fingers up at me since I originally started this thread. And I couldn't be happier | | | |
| Time to go Jim. The turning point on 22:07 - Mar 11 with 933 views | kel |
| Time to go Jim. The turning point on 21:38 - Mar 11 by ThreeLions |
Well Jim is certainly sticking two fingers up at me since I originally started this thread. And I couldn't be happier |
Fair play to you for coming back to the thread when you could have simply disappeared like the ones who have ‘placename’Dale as their username and are nowhere to be seen when anything positive happens. [Post edited 11 Mar 22:08]
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| Time to go Jim. The turning point on 22:19 - Mar 11 with 831 views | Clivert |
| Time to go Jim. The turning point on 21:38 - Mar 11 by ThreeLions |
Well Jim is certainly sticking two fingers up at me since I originally started this thread. And I couldn't be happier |
The turnaround has been phenomenal from the Oldham, Ebbsfleet and Barnet performances.
It's amazing the lift that it can give to everyone when we take the game to the opposition at home. [Post edited 11 Mar 22:28]
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| Time to go Jim. The turning point on 22:25 - Mar 11 with 762 views | DenbighshireDale |
Placename Dale here. I'm delighted with being wrong! Long may it continue. | | | |
| Time to go Jim. The turning point on 22:26 - Mar 11 with 755 views | D_Alien |
| Time to go Jim. The turning point on 22:19 - Mar 11 by Clivert |
The turnaround has been phenomenal from the Oldham, Ebbsfleet and Barnet performances.
It's amazing the lift that it can give to everyone when we take the game to the opposition at home. [Post edited 11 Mar 22:28]
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The critical difference is the ball sticking up front (Bird) and more judicious use of the long ball from the back to stretch the opposition defence | |
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| Time to go Jim. The turning point on 22:26 - Mar 11 with 754 views | kel |
| Time to go Jim. The turning point on 22:25 - Mar 11 by DenbighshireDale |
Placename Dale here. I'm delighted with being wrong! Long may it continue. |
Ha, you certainly weren’t one of the ones I was thinking of. | |
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| Time to go Jim. The turning point on 22:31 - Mar 11 with 693 views | 442Dale |
| Time to go Jim. The turning point on 22:07 - Mar 11 by kel |
Fair play to you for coming back to the thread when you could have simply disappeared like the ones who have ‘placename’Dale as their username and are nowhere to be seen when anything positive happens. [Post edited 11 Mar 22:08]
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Indeed. There’s nothing wrong with being wrong and admitting it. And it’s not as though the points made against McNulty were, it’s that he was deemed unredeemable when he’d already illustrated that he could send a team out which played entertaining and effective football. It was simply when we weren’t and didn’t look to change his quickly enough. Lessons learnt all round.
Plus I still think we’re too entrenched in the one formation! [Post edited 11 Mar 22:44]
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| Time to go Jim. The turning point on 23:16 - Mar 11 with 534 views | EllDale |
| Time to go Jim. The turning point on 22:31 - Mar 11 by 442Dale |
Indeed. There’s nothing wrong with being wrong and admitting it. And it’s not as though the points made against McNulty were, it’s that he was deemed unredeemable when he’d already illustrated that he could send a team out which played entertaining and effective football. It was simply when we weren’t and didn’t look to change his quickly enough. Lessons learnt all round.
Plus I still think we’re too entrenched in the one formation! [Post edited 11 Mar 22:44]
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To be fair there was a sense of despondency when the thread was started.
Memory of the Boston postponement still lingered as did the thought of dire home performances against Oldham, Barnet and Ebbsfleet.
Even what can be seen as decent away points at Southend and Halifax attracted criticism.
March has been a completely different month though!
There’s a long way to go yet but a feeling of optimism has returned. | | | |
| Time to go Jim. The turning point on 00:34 - Mar 12 with 395 views | Sandyman |
What a turnaround! We've seen some boring, ineffectual performances this campaign. Recently, Dale have been very effective. Last night in particular we were wonderfully entertained. Several people on this forum have said for months that we have the players to be a really competetive team at this level but they weren't being managed well. Recent games have seen a change few expected in that respect. Jim and the lads have certainly found their mojo now, and it is a joy to watch. Thank you. More of the same, please.
UP THE DALE! |  | | |
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