| Oldham grooming gangs: Government blocks national inquiry on 15:21 - Jan 3 with 1012 views | Boundy |
| Oldham grooming gangs: Government blocks national inquiry on 15:16 - Jan 3 by trampie |
The police are on the gangs side, they have been infiltrated. |
The police in this country have been politicised, following the dictates issued and have forgotten the oath they made when joining . |  |
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| Oldham grooming gangs: Government blocks national inquiry on 15:32 - Jan 3 with 989 views | trampie |
| Oldham grooming gangs: Government blocks national inquiry on 15:21 - Jan 3 by Boundy |
The police in this country have been politicised, following the dictates issued and have forgotten the oath they made when joining . |
Infiltrated by the gangs, therefore gangs one step ahead, did you see the docu on the Rochdale thing ? (I think that was drug gangs), I think it was a police woman that was seen in with the baddies and nothing happened to her if I recall, what about that Manchester thing in the airport did they have a brother or was it cousins in the police ?, did anything happen to the ones fighting ?, if anything did I must have
missed it, can't be arsed to recheck just for a messageboard but the bottom line is the police seem to be batting for the wrong side. |  |
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| Oldham grooming gangs: Government blocks national inquiry on 15:40 - Jan 3 with 978 views | Kilkennyjack |
| Oldham grooming gangs: Government blocks national inquiry on 12:54 - Jan 3 by Boundy |
No I'm not, I'm calling out both parties , pity you're too dull to read my post correctly. This is Starmers Government and is now making the decisions and with it the responsibility that goes with it , apologies ( not) if that offends your sensibilities. |
You were trying the link Starmers previous role as Director of Public Prosecutions to his current role as PM, and you were suggesting any current inaction was because he was compromised.
What others on here are saying is yes Starmer needs to act now - but why did your Tory mates do so little about this issue for 14 long years when they were in power …?
Answer that one. |  |
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| Oldham grooming gangs: Government blocks national inquiry on 16:04 - Jan 3 with 936 views | controversial_jack |
| Oldham grooming gangs: Government blocks national inquiry on 15:21 - Jan 3 by Boundy |
The police in this country have been politicised, following the dictates issued and have forgotten the oath they made when joining . |
They were politicised in the 80s when Thatcher used them as her personal stormtroopers to bully Miners and other workers. | | | |
| Oldham grooming gangs: Government blocks national inquiry on 16:05 - Jan 3 with 928 views | KeithHaynes |
| Oldham grooming gangs: Government blocks national inquiry on 09:45 - Jan 3 by onehunglow |
The R word.
Much overused and misused
An easy option for too many |
Never been called one in person, but would imagine the response would be a show stopper 😂 |  |
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| Oldham grooming gangs: Government blocks national inquiry on 16:08 - Jan 3 with 920 views | onehunglow |
| Oldham grooming gangs: Government blocks national inquiry on 16:04 - Jan 3 by controversial_jack |
They were politicised in the 80s when Thatcher used them as her personal stormtroopers to bully Miners and other workers. |
Not really
They have become too sensitive over minutiae to satisfy everyone when they should be bullying criminals
Bullying is what Yorkshire miners were to their colleagues ,their wives and children in Notts and Derby | |
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| Oldham grooming gangs: Government blocks national inquiry on 17:20 - Jan 3 with 881 views | Boundy |
| Oldham grooming gangs: Government blocks national inquiry on 15:40 - Jan 3 by Kilkennyjack |
You were trying the link Starmers previous role as Director of Public Prosecutions to his current role as PM, and you were suggesting any current inaction was because he was compromised.
What others on here are saying is yes Starmer needs to act now - but why did your Tory mates do so little about this issue for 14 long years when they were in power …?
Answer that one. |
There we are then ,nothing more to say . | |
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| Oldham grooming gangs: Government blocks national inquiry on 17:44 - Jan 3 with 841 views | KeithHaynes |
| Oldham grooming gangs: Government blocks national inquiry on 16:04 - Jan 3 by controversial_jack |
They were politicised in the 80s when Thatcher used them as her personal stormtroopers to bully Miners and other workers. |
I would imagine just letting the miners riot was a better way of dealing with it.
The whole thing was mismanaged by the Govt, the miners and the police. It isn’t always about picking sides. | |
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| Oldham grooming gangs: Government blocks national inquiry on 18:39 - Jan 3 with 806 views | majorraglan |
Lots of good points being made.
The truth of the matter is what happened to these girls and women was abhorrent, many were vulnerable and were left down by the system. Some of the offenders have been prosecuted and had long custodial sentences, others sadly have got away with it. My view is that where possible, the offenders of these heinous acts should be deported, their presence here isn’t conducive to the public good.
In terms of the call for a public enquiry, we’ve had a number of enquiries already and I’m not sure one is needed. What really annoys me is the double standards we’re seeing from politicians particularly Kemi Badenoch and the Conservatives.
In 2022, the then Minister for Safeguarding Amanda Solloway (Conservative) rejected a request from a Oldham councillor for a public enquiry in to the issue stating "It is for the local authorities in individual towns and cities which are responsible for delivering local services, to commission local inquiries.”
If the Conservatives didn’t feel one was necessary 2 years ago, what’s changed? I’d have a bit more sympathy if Badenoch came out and said her party got it wrong 2 years ago etc etc and people were sacked, but she hasn’t and all we’re seeing is political football. Children were raped and they are treating it like a game.
The 19th and final report covering Prof Alexis Jay’s 8 year investigation and overarching inquiry into child abuse was published in 2022, but its findings were ignored by the then Conservative government.
When the report was published in 2022, the then Home Secretary Suella Braverman said "I am delighted that we have accepted the need to act on all but one of the Inquiry’s recommendations, and so demonstrate how seriously the Government takes the Inquiry’s findings. Each of those recommendations covers an extensive programme of work which will deliver real change for the future. I hope you will take the time to read our response to each in detail. But here I want to highlight three key measures which underscore the weight of our commitment to victims and survivors".
Guess how many of the report’s recommendations the then Government went on to implement ……….0.
Yes thats right a big fat zero. Lots of hot air, but no action, the hypocrisy from politicians is outrageous!! They play games while the vulnerable remain at risk.
We've already had a national abuse inquiry - 7/8 years, 20 recommendations and none implemented.
The current government are now allegedly working on introducing the recommendations that were made over 2 years ago, we should review progress in 6 months.
Edit- apologies for war and peace, but I feel it’s really important people know the score and not what someone on twitter’s agenda wants us to know.
Been away for a while, happy new year to all. [Post edited 3 Jan 18:58]
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| Oldham grooming gangs: Government blocks national inquiry on 18:48 - Jan 3 with 783 views | Luther27 |
| Oldham grooming gangs: Government blocks national inquiry on 18:39 - Jan 3 by majorraglan |
Lots of good points being made.
The truth of the matter is what happened to these girls and women was abhorrent, many were vulnerable and were left down by the system. Some of the offenders have been prosecuted and had long custodial sentences, others sadly have got away with it. My view is that where possible, the offenders of these heinous acts should be deported, their presence here isn’t conducive to the public good.
In terms of the call for a public enquiry, we’ve had a number of enquiries already and I’m not sure one is needed. What really annoys me is the double standards we’re seeing from politicians particularly Kemi Badenoch and the Conservatives.
In 2022, the then Minister for Safeguarding Amanda Solloway (Conservative) rejected a request from a Oldham councillor for a public enquiry in to the issue stating "It is for the local authorities in individual towns and cities which are responsible for delivering local services, to commission local inquiries.”
If the Conservatives didn’t feel one was necessary 2 years ago, what’s changed? I’d have a bit more sympathy if Badenoch came out and said her party got it wrong 2 years ago etc etc and people were sacked, but she hasn’t and all we’re seeing is political football. Children were raped and they are treating it like a game.
The 19th and final report covering Prof Alexis Jay’s 8 year investigation and overarching inquiry into child abuse was published in 2022, but its findings were ignored by the then Conservative government.
When the report was published in 2022, the then Home Secretary Suella Braverman said "I am delighted that we have accepted the need to act on all but one of the Inquiry’s recommendations, and so demonstrate how seriously the Government takes the Inquiry’s findings. Each of those recommendations covers an extensive programme of work which will deliver real change for the future. I hope you will take the time to read our response to each in detail. But here I want to highlight three key measures which underscore the weight of our commitment to victims and survivors".
Guess how many of the report’s recommendations the then Government went on to implement ……….0.
Yes thats right a big fat zero. Lots of hot air, but no action, the hypocrisy from politicians is outrageous!! They play games while the vulnerable remain at risk.
We've already had a national abuse inquiry - 7/8 years, 20 recommendations and none implemented.
The current government are now allegedly working on introducing the recommendations that were made over 2 years ago, we should review progress in 6 months.
Edit- apologies for war and peace, but I feel it’s really important people know the score and not what someone on twitter’s agenda wants us to know.
Been away for a while, happy new year to all. [Post edited 3 Jan 18:58]
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I think you summed this scandal pretty well. It was, is and remains a disgrace on all parties at Westminster that they are too cowardly to adopt every…and I mean every recommendation from these enquiries. What do they fear so much that abuse of vulnerable girls continues to this day? | | | |
| Oldham grooming gangs: Government blocks national inquiry on 19:22 - Jan 3 with 761 views | JACKMANANDBOY |
| Oldham grooming gangs: Government blocks national inquiry on 18:48 - Jan 3 by Luther27 |
I think you summed this scandal pretty well. It was, is and remains a disgrace on all parties at Westminster that they are too cowardly to adopt every…and I mean every recommendation from these enquiries. What do they fear so much that abuse of vulnerable girls continues to this day? |
The first cases were reported in the 1990s. |  |
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| Oldham grooming gangs: Government blocks national inquiry on 19:49 - Jan 3 with 722 views | Kilkennyjack |
| Oldham grooming gangs: Government blocks national inquiry on 18:39 - Jan 3 by majorraglan |
Lots of good points being made.
The truth of the matter is what happened to these girls and women was abhorrent, many were vulnerable and were left down by the system. Some of the offenders have been prosecuted and had long custodial sentences, others sadly have got away with it. My view is that where possible, the offenders of these heinous acts should be deported, their presence here isn’t conducive to the public good.
In terms of the call for a public enquiry, we’ve had a number of enquiries already and I’m not sure one is needed. What really annoys me is the double standards we’re seeing from politicians particularly Kemi Badenoch and the Conservatives.
In 2022, the then Minister for Safeguarding Amanda Solloway (Conservative) rejected a request from a Oldham councillor for a public enquiry in to the issue stating "It is for the local authorities in individual towns and cities which are responsible for delivering local services, to commission local inquiries.”
If the Conservatives didn’t feel one was necessary 2 years ago, what’s changed? I’d have a bit more sympathy if Badenoch came out and said her party got it wrong 2 years ago etc etc and people were sacked, but she hasn’t and all we’re seeing is political football. Children were raped and they are treating it like a game.
The 19th and final report covering Prof Alexis Jay’s 8 year investigation and overarching inquiry into child abuse was published in 2022, but its findings were ignored by the then Conservative government.
When the report was published in 2022, the then Home Secretary Suella Braverman said "I am delighted that we have accepted the need to act on all but one of the Inquiry’s recommendations, and so demonstrate how seriously the Government takes the Inquiry’s findings. Each of those recommendations covers an extensive programme of work which will deliver real change for the future. I hope you will take the time to read our response to each in detail. But here I want to highlight three key measures which underscore the weight of our commitment to victims and survivors".
Guess how many of the report’s recommendations the then Government went on to implement ……….0.
Yes thats right a big fat zero. Lots of hot air, but no action, the hypocrisy from politicians is outrageous!! They play games while the vulnerable remain at risk.
We've already had a national abuse inquiry - 7/8 years, 20 recommendations and none implemented.
The current government are now allegedly working on introducing the recommendations that were made over 2 years ago, we should review progress in 6 months.
Edit- apologies for war and peace, but I feel it’s really important people know the score and not what someone on twitter’s agenda wants us to know.
Been away for a while, happy new year to all. [Post edited 3 Jan 18:58]
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| Oldham grooming gangs: Government blocks national inquiry on 19:55 - Jan 3 with 710 views | Boundy |
| Oldham grooming gangs: Government blocks national inquiry on 18:48 - Jan 3 by Luther27 |
I think you summed this scandal pretty well. It was, is and remains a disgrace on all parties at Westminster that they are too cowardly to adopt every…and I mean every recommendation from these enquiries. What do they fear so much that abuse of vulnerable girls continues to this day? |
Agree , no one political party can stand up and think they did all they could because no one has , just hot air and wind. Questions should be asked as to why so many were and perhaps still are being abused , this isn't a local northern issue , this a countrywide disgrace and by inaction has ruined the lives of hundreds. | |
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| Oldham grooming gangs: Government blocks national inquiry on 21:43 - Jan 3 with 650 views | Gwyn737 |
| Oldham grooming gangs: Government blocks national inquiry on 18:39 - Jan 3 by majorraglan |
Lots of good points being made.
The truth of the matter is what happened to these girls and women was abhorrent, many were vulnerable and were left down by the system. Some of the offenders have been prosecuted and had long custodial sentences, others sadly have got away with it. My view is that where possible, the offenders of these heinous acts should be deported, their presence here isn’t conducive to the public good.
In terms of the call for a public enquiry, we’ve had a number of enquiries already and I’m not sure one is needed. What really annoys me is the double standards we’re seeing from politicians particularly Kemi Badenoch and the Conservatives.
In 2022, the then Minister for Safeguarding Amanda Solloway (Conservative) rejected a request from a Oldham councillor for a public enquiry in to the issue stating "It is for the local authorities in individual towns and cities which are responsible for delivering local services, to commission local inquiries.”
If the Conservatives didn’t feel one was necessary 2 years ago, what’s changed? I’d have a bit more sympathy if Badenoch came out and said her party got it wrong 2 years ago etc etc and people were sacked, but she hasn’t and all we’re seeing is political football. Children were raped and they are treating it like a game.
The 19th and final report covering Prof Alexis Jay’s 8 year investigation and overarching inquiry into child abuse was published in 2022, but its findings were ignored by the then Conservative government.
When the report was published in 2022, the then Home Secretary Suella Braverman said "I am delighted that we have accepted the need to act on all but one of the Inquiry’s recommendations, and so demonstrate how seriously the Government takes the Inquiry’s findings. Each of those recommendations covers an extensive programme of work which will deliver real change for the future. I hope you will take the time to read our response to each in detail. But here I want to highlight three key measures which underscore the weight of our commitment to victims and survivors".
Guess how many of the report’s recommendations the then Government went on to implement ……….0.
Yes thats right a big fat zero. Lots of hot air, but no action, the hypocrisy from politicians is outrageous!! They play games while the vulnerable remain at risk.
We've already had a national abuse inquiry - 7/8 years, 20 recommendations and none implemented.
The current government are now allegedly working on introducing the recommendations that were made over 2 years ago, we should review progress in 6 months.
Edit- apologies for war and peace, but I feel it’s really important people know the score and not what someone on twitter’s agenda wants us to know.
Been away for a while, happy new year to all. [Post edited 3 Jan 18:58]
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This is an example of why Reform are gaining traction.
It’s a horrendous situation, but one where the Tories can’t attack as the opposition because they did the square root of sod all. | | | |
| Oldham grooming gangs: Government blocks national inquiry on 22:05 - Jan 3 with 638 views | AnotherJohn |
| Oldham grooming gangs: Government blocks national inquiry on 21:43 - Jan 3 by Gwyn737 |
This is an example of why Reform are gaining traction.
It’s a horrendous situation, but one where the Tories can’t attack as the opposition because they did the square root of sod all. |
Indeed so. The inaction by both main parties fuels the narrative that the metropolitan establishment prefer to avoid what they perceive as the downside of cracking down on the responsible demographic. | | | |
| Oldham grooming gangs: Government blocks national inquiry on 22:07 - Jan 3 with 638 views | Boundy |
| Oldham grooming gangs: Government blocks national inquiry on 21:43 - Jan 3 by Gwyn737 |
This is an example of why Reform are gaining traction.
It’s a horrendous situation, but one where the Tories can’t attack as the opposition because they did the square root of sod all. |
Regarding Reform ,is it so bad that that particular party would potentially do what the other main party's haven't and maybe that's why they've tried along with the media to discredit them.
If one rapist, one copper,one politician,one councillor and one social worker is arrested and found guilty of complicity because of Reform then that has been worth it. | |
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| Oldham grooming gangs: Government blocks national inquiry on 22:21 - Jan 3 with 620 views | Dr_Winston |
It's kinda bonkers that it's taken a foreign Billionaire, apparently just for the sheer, malevolent entertainment of it, to break loose a story that really should have made its own way into the headlines by now.
Labour, Tory, none of them can come out of this with any credit. Labour for pandering to their increasingly important Moslem vote, The Tories for not having the balls to bulldozer through the smears and cries of "racists!" that would have inevitably emerged from the Left at any attempt to shut this stuff down.
It's beyond crazy that there are still people out there who think that a Conservative Govt that tolerated this stuff for 14 years is "extreme right wing". [Post edited 3 Jan 22:22]
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| Oldham grooming gangs: Government blocks national inquiry on 23:29 - Jan 3 with 563 views | JACKMANANDBOY |
| Oldham grooming gangs: Government blocks national inquiry on 22:21 - Jan 3 by Dr_Winston |
It's kinda bonkers that it's taken a foreign Billionaire, apparently just for the sheer, malevolent entertainment of it, to break loose a story that really should have made its own way into the headlines by now.
Labour, Tory, none of them can come out of this with any credit. Labour for pandering to their increasingly important Moslem vote, The Tories for not having the balls to bulldozer through the smears and cries of "racists!" that would have inevitably emerged from the Left at any attempt to shut this stuff down.
It's beyond crazy that there are still people out there who think that a Conservative Govt that tolerated this stuff for 14 years is "extreme right wing". [Post edited 3 Jan 22:22]
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Funny how scandals that run across political divides get little political attention. | |
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| Oldham grooming gangs: Government blocks national inquiry on 01:02 - Jan 4 with 533 views | Robbie |
Add also to the issue of the small boats out of control monitoring for refugees .
All past and present Governments are scared of the racism card thrown at them .
So they feebly back down to keep the status quo thereby not addressing the hot topic .
Politicians , got to love them . | | | |
| Oldham grooming gangs: Government blocks national inquiry on 09:11 - Jan 4 with 471 views | Boundy |
Anyone who thinks a Government inquiry is not required should read Maggie Oliver's story , then still say its not. | |
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| Oldham grooming gangs: Government blocks national inquiry on 14:12 - Jan 4 with 399 views | Gwyn737 |
| Oldham grooming gangs: Government blocks national inquiry on 22:21 - Jan 3 by Dr_Winston |
It's kinda bonkers that it's taken a foreign Billionaire, apparently just for the sheer, malevolent entertainment of it, to break loose a story that really should have made its own way into the headlines by now.
Labour, Tory, none of them can come out of this with any credit. Labour for pandering to their increasingly important Moslem vote, The Tories for not having the balls to bulldozer through the smears and cries of "racists!" that would have inevitably emerged from the Left at any attempt to shut this stuff down.
It's beyond crazy that there are still people out there who think that a Conservative Govt that tolerated this stuff for 14 years is "extreme right wing". [Post edited 3 Jan 22:22]
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No problem him highlighting injustice.
Some of the things he’s said to generate clicks have been poor IMO. | | | |
| Oldham grooming gangs: Government blocks national inquiry on 14:26 - Jan 4 with 391 views | SullutaCreturned |
| Oldham grooming gangs: Government blocks national inquiry on 14:12 - Jan 4 by Gwyn737 |
No problem him highlighting injustice.
Some of the things he’s said to generate clicks have been poor IMO. |
Musk is a dangerous man. He's not bringing these things up because he's after justice, he's just stirring the pot. He's taken a few potshots at the Uk recently, all for publicity.
Not that, this time, he's not right. The whole "grooming gang" thing has been pretty much ignored because there are people at fault who don't want it, or their part, being the hot topic.
Did Starmer let criminals off because he was scared of the racism card...it wouldn't surprise me. The police certainly ignored it for that reason and they let a lot of young, white girls get abused rather than do their jobs.
It's disgraceful and people should be prosecuted. | | | |
| Oldham grooming gangs: Government blocks national inquiry on 14:39 - Jan 4 with 385 views | onehunglow |
| Oldham grooming gangs: Government blocks national inquiry on 14:26 - Jan 4 by SullutaCreturned |
Musk is a dangerous man. He's not bringing these things up because he's after justice, he's just stirring the pot. He's taken a few potshots at the Uk recently, all for publicity.
Not that, this time, he's not right. The whole "grooming gang" thing has been pretty much ignored because there are people at fault who don't want it, or their part, being the hot topic.
Did Starmer let criminals off because he was scared of the racism card...it wouldn't surprise me. The police certainly ignored it for that reason and they let a lot of young, white girls get abused rather than do their jobs.
It's disgraceful and people should be prosecuted. |
These towns are Labour strongholds
If this was happening in Bury St Edmunds or rural Oxfordshire,things would be different
The last thing they want to risk is alienating Labour voters | |
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| Oldham grooming gangs: Government blocks national inquiry on 19:36 - Jan 4 with 282 views | Boundy |
| Oldham grooming gangs: Government blocks national inquiry on 14:39 - Jan 4 by onehunglow |
These towns are Labour strongholds
If this was happening in Bury St Edmunds or rural Oxfordshire,things would be different
The last thing they want to risk is alienating Labour voters |
It did happen in Oxfordshire,sad to say | |
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| Oldham grooming gangs: Government blocks national inquiry on 20:43 - Jan 4 with 248 views | Kilkennyjack |
| Oldham grooming gangs: Government blocks national inquiry on 22:07 - Jan 3 by Boundy |
Regarding Reform ,is it so bad that that particular party would potentially do what the other main party's haven't and maybe that's why they've tried along with the media to discredit them.
If one rapist, one copper,one politician,one councillor and one social worker is arrested and found guilty of complicity because of Reform then that has been worth it. |
Reform have no proven solutions to anything.
A bunch of xenophobic posh boy English nationalists who exploit the scared and the simple. | |
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