Verdicts from the riots 15:39 - Sep 24 with 3120 views | AnotherJohn | The not guilty plea cases in the magistrates courts and more serious ones going to crown court are starting to trickle through. Some posters said that this would be the test of whether there is anything in the claim of "two-tier justice". At the time there were also allegations of "two-tier policing". For example, there was the case of the mob that surrounded the Birmingham pub, hospitalised a customer unwise enough to venture outside, and tried to slash the tyre on a Sky broadcast crew van. Well, one of the few persons charged that day has now appeared in court. The verdict is likely to add grist to the mill. https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/man-filmed-at-protest-carrying-stick-clear We are still waiting to hear what happens to Ricky Jones early next year. [Post edited 24 Sep 15:40]
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Verdicts from the riots on 09:14 - Sep 26 with 512 views | union_jack |
Verdicts from the riots on 23:41 - Sep 25 by howenjack | Coconut is a well known term in the cities used to refer to a black/coloured person on the outside but a "white " person on the inside." White person" meaning that he /she relates ostensibly to white culture and norms which could relate to occupation / choice of domicility/ political views /friends and relationships/pastimes etc etc. Bounty bar is another derogatory term with racist overtones. There is no doubt the woman waving that flag with coconut on it was making a racist comment and should have been prosecuted. |
Not forgetting ‘banana’ to describe far east people with western attributes / lifestyles. | |
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Verdicts from the riots on 09:56 - Sep 26 with 476 views | onehunglow |
Verdicts from the riots on 09:14 - Sep 26 by union_jack | Not forgetting ‘banana’ to describe far east people with western attributes / lifestyles. |
Think us Welsh have had it easy really I’ve never even been accused of having carnal knowledge of anything within the bovidae family | |
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Verdicts from the riots on 22:36 - Sep 26 with 386 views | majorraglan |
Verdicts from the riots on 08:36 - Sep 26 by AnotherJohn | I'm really surprised that you have not heard that term, Major. In the distant past "coco-tops" was used as a derogatory term for black persons, I think with certain hair styles. More recently "coconut" has been used to refer to persons alleged to be brown on the outside but white inside - racially inauthentic. It is a modern version of "Uncle Tom" or "house negro". https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/p0jsb0sn This would not be lost on most people, but it seems that the magistrate knew less than the infamous "man on the Clapham Omnibus". [Post edited 26 Sep 8:42]
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Thank you and howenjack for the explanation, it’s genuinely appreciated. I can’t recall ever hearing the expression before but, having read your explanations I can see why it could easily be construed as racist and unacceptable. For what it’s worth I think the CPS and police were right to prosecute. | | | |
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