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Operation Early dawn 18:07 - Aug 18 with 1373 viewsSullutaCreturned

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c5y8q0wkx1go

OK then, we need more police, more cells and more prisons. If this happens regularly people who should bearrested will be allowed their freedom because there's no room.

What a stupid situation.
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Operation Early dawn on 18:12 - Aug 18 with 1338 viewsonehunglow

Police officers have been diving out of this ,job for life with a fabulous pension ,for years and found jobs with more money with zero threat from shite on the streets

May slaughtered them and if not oyssed off they are dissolutioned

Full power if the jaw my arse

Jails full…pile them high and lock them in
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Operation Early dawn on 18:14 - Aug 18 with 1326 viewsJoesus_Of_Narbereth

Deport all the foreign criminals, will make loads of space.

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Operation Early dawn on 18:31 - Aug 18 with 1285 viewsmajorraglan

There’s been some very poor management of our prison estate over the last 14 years, we don’t have enough capacity and some of our estate is in really poor condition and not far off being “condemned.”

Getting foreign nationals out would be a bonus and would free up some capacity. Over and above that, some forces have unused custody blocks which with a bit of effort could be utilised in an emergency situation to hold prisoners.
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Operation Early dawn on 19:51 - Aug 18 with 1239 viewsAnotherJohn

Police cells were used at different times in the past to hold prisoners on remand when the previous "Operation Safeguard" was triggered, most recently to cope with the build-up of remand prisoners when the barristers took industrial action. This is made possible by the Imprisonment (Temporary Provisions) Act 1980. The downside is (a) there is a knock-on effect whereby police have to limit the number of new arrests as they have only limited cells available, and (b) police custody blocks do not have the recreational and exercise facilities a remand prison has, so there are welfare issues that pressure groups will pick up.
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Operation Early dawn on 21:40 - Aug 18 with 1178 viewsonehunglow

Operation Early dawn on 19:51 - Aug 18 by AnotherJohn

Police cells were used at different times in the past to hold prisoners on remand when the previous "Operation Safeguard" was triggered, most recently to cope with the build-up of remand prisoners when the barristers took industrial action. This is made possible by the Imprisonment (Temporary Provisions) Act 1980. The downside is (a) there is a knock-on effect whereby police have to limit the number of new arrests as they have only limited cells available, and (b) police custody blocks do not have the recreational and exercise facilities a remand prison has, so there are welfare issues that pressure groups will pick up.


Strange victims have no welfare groups as such
Seems the criminals have people bleeding and pleading for them
Don’t do the crime
That simple

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Operation Early dawn on 01:18 - Aug 19 with 1115 viewsRobbie

Operation Early dawn on 18:14 - Aug 18 by Joesus_Of_Narbereth

Deport all the foreign criminals, will make loads of space.


No Politician will ever have the guts to make a manifesto pledge like that sadly .

All scared of upsetting the do gooders and PC brigade , lost votes for me there if I do it .

George Galloway an MP now , voted in not on pledges but current public opinion as the news breaks daily , no going forward to make the UK better , but sitting in Westminster .

Politicians got to love them .
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Operation Early dawn on 06:49 - Aug 19 with 1058 viewsAnotherJohn

Operation Early dawn on 21:40 - Aug 18 by onehunglow

Strange victims have no welfare groups as such
Seems the criminals have people bleeding and pleading for them
Don’t do the crime
That simple


Operation Early Dawn was activated today in some areas in the north. I can see why this is happening, but it may bring its own problems.

Previously some complained about the earlier and similar Operation Safeguard, including the Police Federation and Labour MPs.

"MPs debated Operation Safeguard again at the first Justice Questions of the new year (10 January 2023), with Clive Efford (Lab, Eltham) pointing out:

Clive Efford: The Prison Officers Association says that the lack of staff is exacerbating the
crisis in prison places. The Police Federation says that Operation Safeguard puts its members and the public in danger. Napo says that there is a link between the lack of prison places and the workload crisis, which is leading to an increase in the number of recalls. If Operation Safeguard fails, where on earth will the Government go next?"

https://www.napo.org.uk/sites/default/files/Napo%20Parliamentary%20Report%202022


https://www.theguardian.com/society/2022/dec/04/operation-safeguard-will-put-pri

https://www.ucu.org.uk/article/1847/Operation-Safeguard-will-increase-re-offendi
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Operation Early dawn on 08:46 - Aug 19 with 1020 viewsmangohilljack

Whatever happened to those super prisons they were building during the rona years
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Operation Early dawn on 15:56 - Aug 19 with 859 viewsAnotherJohn

I came across a Police Federation open letter from June 2024 suggesting they may not be entirely happy about Operation Dawn. The PFEW claim that the latter may force officers to act outside the law. I thought that the Imprisonment (Temporary Measures) Act 1980 would probably protect them, but it will be interesting to see if there is anything in the arguments set out in the letter.

https://www.clsa.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2024/08/Section-46-PACE_Open-Letter-to
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Operation Early dawn on 16:53 - Aug 19 with 815 viewsonehunglow

Operation Early dawn on 06:49 - Aug 19 by AnotherJohn

Operation Early Dawn was activated today in some areas in the north. I can see why this is happening, but it may bring its own problems.

Previously some complained about the earlier and similar Operation Safeguard, including the Police Federation and Labour MPs.

"MPs debated Operation Safeguard again at the first Justice Questions of the new year (10 January 2023), with Clive Efford (Lab, Eltham) pointing out:

Clive Efford: The Prison Officers Association says that the lack of staff is exacerbating the
crisis in prison places. The Police Federation says that Operation Safeguard puts its members and the public in danger. Napo says that there is a link between the lack of prison places and the workload crisis, which is leading to an increase in the number of recalls. If Operation Safeguard fails, where on earth will the Government go next?"

https://www.napo.org.uk/sites/default/files/Napo%20Parliamentary%20Report%202022


https://www.theguardian.com/society/2022/dec/04/operation-safeguard-will-put-pri

https://www.ucu.org.uk/article/1847/Operation-Safeguard-will-increase-re-offendi


Bottom line is prison is little more than an inconvenience to many scum.
Police need to be back on the streets and not saving rainbow flags and prancing about .
We need thousands more police officers and give them a 20 % pay rise
We need to end the incessant woke shyte from them .
They need to stop and search more not less .
Black people need to understand that . They are the ones most at risk from knife crimes .
Police Bosses need to start doing what they were employed to do when they joined
We must not be afraid of punishing sewerage because the jails are uncomfortably full for them.

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Operation Early dawn on 12:06 - Aug 20 with 689 viewsAnotherJohn

A solicitor with pending cases was interviewed on BBC Radio 4 today, and mentioned the PFEW letter from the post above. She maintained that there is indeed a risk of unlawful imprisonment. Her argument is that under current guidance appearance at the magistrates court is delayed until there is a prison place available, even though a good proportion of defendants would not receive a custodial sentence. They therefore spend a longer period in a police cell than was warranted. She argued that they should instead go to court early and then be temporarily returned to police cells (rather than prison) if a jail sentence is imposed. My view is that these cases do need to go ahead, but that this minor tweak would cut off one source of complaint.
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Operation Early dawn on 13:37 - Aug 20 with 663 viewsonehunglow

Operation Early dawn on 12:06 - Aug 20 by AnotherJohn

A solicitor with pending cases was interviewed on BBC Radio 4 today, and mentioned the PFEW letter from the post above. She maintained that there is indeed a risk of unlawful imprisonment. Her argument is that under current guidance appearance at the magistrates court is delayed until there is a prison place available, even though a good proportion of defendants would not receive a custodial sentence. They therefore spend a longer period in a police cell than was warranted. She argued that they should instead go to court early and then be temporarily returned to police cells (rather than prison) if a jail sentence is imposed. My view is that these cases do need to go ahead, but that this minor tweak would cut off one source of complaint.
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Solicitors eh
Truly ,as I’ve suggested before,the bottom of the morality ladder .
Justice? Not with these leeches

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