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Should Martin be sacked after his inept use of Substitutions today. 18:03 - Feb 4 with 5916 viewsfelixstowe_jack


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Should Martin be sacked after his inept use of Substitutions today. on 18:12 - Feb 4 with 4689 viewsDr_Winston

Just today?

Pain or damage don't end the world. Or despair, or f*cking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man... and give some back.

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Should Martin be sacked after his inept use of Substitutions today. on 18:25 - Feb 4 with 4649 viewsfelixstowe_jack

Should Martin be sacked after his inept use of Substitutions today. on 18:12 - Feb 4 by Dr_Winston

Just today?


No for his lack of talent for the last two seasons. We are making no progress, still making the same errors.

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Should Martin be sacked after his inept use of Substitutions today. on 18:27 - Feb 4 with 4631 viewsonehunglow

Should Martin be sacked after his inept use of Substitutions today. on 18:25 - Feb 4 by felixstowe_jack

No for his lack of talent for the last two seasons. We are making no progress, still making the same errors.


Has someone actually evidenced his progress ?
It’s not funny anymore

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Should Martin be sacked after his inept use of Substitutions today. on 18:31 - Feb 4 with 4625 viewsReslovenSwan1

It is all about progress. If martin is a sound manger of quality then after 24 months he should nbe able to demonstrate it according to the table.

He has 4 months to save his job. He will have to make at adapatations to make the sysyem work. Adapt or move on. 8th is a mimimum.

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Should Martin be sacked after his inept use of Substitutions today. on 18:34 - Feb 4 with 4607 viewsonehunglow

Should Martin be sacked after his inept use of Substitutions today. on 18:31 - Feb 4 by ReslovenSwan1

It is all about progress. If martin is a sound manger of quality then after 24 months he should nbe able to demonstrate it according to the table.

He has 4 months to save his job. He will have to make at adapatations to make the sysyem work. Adapt or move on. 8th is a mimimum.


8th is frankly ludicrous.
We both know it today proves any play off talking for forum consumption only

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Should Martin be sacked after his inept use of Substitutions today. on 18:47 - Feb 4 with 4571 viewsGwyn737

Should Martin be sacked after his inept use of Substitutions today. on 18:25 - Feb 4 by felixstowe_jack

No for his lack of talent for the last two seasons. We are making no progress, still making the same errors.


Blimey FJ, I’m genuinely sorry you made the massive journey you did for that 😞
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Should Martin be sacked after his inept use of Substitutions today. on 18:52 - Feb 4 with 4558 viewspencoedjack

Not sure how many points we have given away from winning positions but Martin is a poor tactical manager.

Sacked for me but not just on today.
[Post edited 4 Feb 2023 18:53]
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Should Martin be sacked after his inept use of Substitutions today. on 21:40 - Feb 4 with 4409 viewsSullutaCreturned

Should Martin be sacked after his inept use of Substitutions today. on 18:52 - Feb 4 by pencoedjack

Not sure how many points we have given away from winning positions but Martin is a poor tactical manager.

Sacked for me but not just on today.
[Post edited 4 Feb 2023 18:53]


This ^

It's been 18 months of big pronises, waffle and ultimately rubbish football, slow and ponderous nonsense.

If this division wasn't so bad generally we'd be in trouble by now.
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Should Martin be sacked after his inept use of Substitutions today. on 21:47 - Feb 4 with 4388 viewsmax936

And replaced with who? Fred karno, Martin isn't the problem its the threesome across the pond that is Levien Kaplan and the ultimate clown Silverdollar the talking horse
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Should Martin be sacked after his inept use of Substitutions today. on 22:46 - Feb 4 with 4331 viewsA_Fans_Dad

Should Martin be sacked after his inept use of Substitutions today. on 21:47 - Feb 4 by max936

And replaced with who? Fred karno, Martin isn't the problem its the threesome across the pond that is Levien Kaplan and the ultimate clown Silverdollar the talking horse
[Post edited 5 Feb 2023 12:44]


Rubbish.
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Should Martin be sacked after his inept use of Substitutions today. on 23:10 - Feb 4 with 4297 viewsSTID2017

Should Martin be sacked after his inept use of Substitutions today. on 22:46 - Feb 4 by A_Fans_Dad

Rubbish.


Sack him and replace him with who ?
Max asked a fair question.
Nobody of any quality will come here having witnessed what the last three managers have had to put up with in the transfer windows

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Should Martin be sacked after his inept use of Substitutions today. on 23:11 - Feb 4 with 4282 viewsDr_Parnassus

Should Martin be sacked after his inept use of Substitutions today. on 23:10 - Feb 4 by STID2017

Sack him and replace him with who ?
Max asked a fair question.
Nobody of any quality will come here having witnessed what the last three managers have had to put up with in the transfer windows


Martin has fared very well in the transfer windows he has had.

This is the only one which he can be disappointed with.

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Should Martin be sacked after his inept use of Substitutions today. on 23:16 - Feb 4 with 4284 viewsA_Fans_Dad

Should Martin be sacked after his inept use of Substitutions today. on 23:10 - Feb 4 by STID2017

Sack him and replace him with who ?
Max asked a fair question.
Nobody of any quality will come here having witnessed what the last three managers have had to put up with in the transfer windows


He didn't ask a question, there was no question mark.
He just was ranting against the owners
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Should Martin be sacked after his inept use of Substitutions today. on 23:19 - Feb 4 with 4263 viewsonehunglow

Should Martin be sacked after his inept use of Substitutions today. on 23:16 - Feb 4 by A_Fans_Dad

He didn't ask a question, there was no question mark.
He just was ranting against the owners


So we simply have to shut up and accept it
Our spirit ,as Ive said many times, is broken
Today ,the owners cannot be blamed no matter how much Russ tries

Owners need to find some sense and remove him
Keeping him is and will cost us far more

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Should Martin be sacked after his inept use of Substitutions today. on 23:22 - Feb 4 with 4266 viewsSTID2017

Should Martin be sacked after his inept use of Substitutions today. on 23:16 - Feb 4 by A_Fans_Dad

He didn't ask a question, there was no question mark.
He just was ranting against the owners


Fair enough he didn't and I stand corrected.
So who would you replace him with and who do you think would actually come
here ?

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Should Martin be sacked after his inept use of Substitutions today. on 23:26 - Feb 4 with 4243 viewsonehunglow

Should Martin be sacked after his inept use of Substitutions today. on 23:22 - Feb 4 by STID2017

Fair enough he didn't and I stand corrected.
So who would you replace him with and who do you think would actually come
here ?


It’s not down to him is it
It’s like suggesting who would you employ to manage your business

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Should Martin be sacked after his inept use of Substitutions today. on 23:30 - Feb 4 with 4246 viewsBadlands

Should Martin be sacked after his inept use of Substitutions today. on 23:22 - Feb 4 by STID2017

Fair enough he didn't and I stand corrected.
So who would you replace him with and who do you think would actually come
here ?


Plenty would come.
If we had to keep the rest of the ££ chasing wasters in his back room then Sousa would be ideal.
A chance to redeem his reputation in efl (he,s done really well elsewhere) and would have the defensive failings sorted in a jiffy.
Osian Roberts, another who would look to establish himself in the main job.
Both would, imo, accept players found for them as they have been used to working with representative squads.

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Should Martin be sacked after his inept use of Substitutions today. on 23:41 - Feb 4 with 4236 viewsSTID2017

Should Martin be sacked after his inept use of Substitutions today. on 23:30 - Feb 4 by Badlands

Plenty would come.
If we had to keep the rest of the ££ chasing wasters in his back room then Sousa would be ideal.
A chance to redeem his reputation in efl (he,s done really well elsewhere) and would have the defensive failings sorted in a jiffy.
Osian Roberts, another who would look to establish himself in the main job.
Both would, imo, accept players found for them as they have been used to working with representative squads.


That is a fair and constructive answer.
If I were a coach of their standing, not sure I would come to Swansea, but respect your opinions.

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Should Martin be sacked after his inept use of Substitutions today. on 05:16 - Feb 5 with 4167 viewsjack247

Should Martin be sacked after his inept use of Substitutions today. on 23:30 - Feb 4 by Badlands

Plenty would come.
If we had to keep the rest of the ££ chasing wasters in his back room then Sousa would be ideal.
A chance to redeem his reputation in efl (he,s done really well elsewhere) and would have the defensive failings sorted in a jiffy.
Osian Roberts, another who would look to establish himself in the main job.
Both would, imo, accept players found for them as they have been used to working with representative squads.


We’d be looking at a young, hungry manager who knows he’s going to have his best players sold and replaced cheaply every season.

Someone who would accept that and look to use us as a shop window.

I doubt Sousa or Osian Roberts would take that gamble
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Should Martin be sacked after his inept use of Substitutions today. on 08:05 - Feb 5 with 4107 viewsDr_Parnassus

Should Martin be sacked after his inept use of Substitutions today. on 05:16 - Feb 5 by jack247

We’d be looking at a young, hungry manager who knows he’s going to have his best players sold and replaced cheaply every season.

Someone who would accept that and look to use us as a shop window.

I doubt Sousa or Osian Roberts would take that gamble


That’s not true though is it. Some of this criticism is so unfair on the owners.

Whittaker was kept despite millions on the table, they have not looked to offer out Piroe or make any noises that he’s available, they refused Grimes offers.

This season Martin has lost Obafemi through a situation that made it impossible for him to stay.

The season before he lost Downes because it was a huge offer that we couldn’t turn down.

That’s excellent going for a club like us.

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Should Martin be sacked after his inept use of Substitutions today. on 08:46 - Feb 5 with 4056 viewsonehunglow

Should Martin be sacked after his inept use of Substitutions today. on 08:05 - Feb 5 by Dr_Parnassus

That’s not true though is it. Some of this criticism is so unfair on the owners.

Whittaker was kept despite millions on the table, they have not looked to offer out Piroe or make any noises that he’s available, they refused Grimes offers.

This season Martin has lost Obafemi through a situation that made it impossible for him to stay.

The season before he lost Downes because it was a huge offer that we couldn’t turn down.

That’s excellent going for a club like us.


I disagree actually regarding Whittaker whom I would have sold and used the money to offload Martin. Then, really no excuses

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Should Martin be sacked after his inept use of Substitutions today. on 11:39 - Feb 5 with 3958 viewsjack247

Should Martin be sacked after his inept use of Substitutions today. on 08:05 - Feb 5 by Dr_Parnassus

That’s not true though is it. Some of this criticism is so unfair on the owners.

Whittaker was kept despite millions on the table, they have not looked to offer out Piroe or make any noises that he’s available, they refused Grimes offers.

This season Martin has lost Obafemi through a situation that made it impossible for him to stay.

The season before he lost Downes because it was a huge offer that we couldn’t turn down.

That’s excellent going for a club like us.


It’s not a Russell Martin thing. The same thing happened with Potter and Cooper. In all fairness I’m sure they all came into the job with their eyes wide open.

Whittaker was brought back to be sold. He didn’t want to come back and Martin didn’t want him back. The deal just broke down.

Piroe will be gone if a decent bid comes in.

We’ll spend less than we raise in August.
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Should Martin be sacked after his inept use of Substitutions today. on 12:12 - Feb 5 with 3912 viewsNotLoyal

Sack a manager for yesterday’s subs ?

Seriously !

OK I've changed it.
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Should Martin be sacked after his inept use of Substitutions today. on 12:21 - Feb 5 with 3897 viewsDr_Parnassus

Should Martin be sacked after his inept use of Substitutions today. on 11:39 - Feb 5 by jack247

It’s not a Russell Martin thing. The same thing happened with Potter and Cooper. In all fairness I’m sure they all came into the job with their eyes wide open.

Whittaker was brought back to be sold. He didn’t want to come back and Martin didn’t want him back. The deal just broke down.

Piroe will be gone if a decent bid comes in.

We’ll spend less than we raise in August.


But it’s not a Russell Martin thing at all, as I’ve just showed.

He’s lost Obafemi this season which appears to be a player and manager instigated decision. The season before he lost Flynn Downes (who they signed anyway) and that was due to the level of offer from a big Premier League club.

To suggest losing one player to the Premier League in his whole managerial stint is somehow abnormal and as such will put people off is dishonest in the extreme.

Whitaker wasn’t brought back to be sold, which is why he wasn’t sold and they rejected every bid for him.

Of course we will spend less than what we bring in, our club model for as long as I have supported the club has been that way. We generate extra revenues needed to service overheads by player sales, what we can spare after that goes back into the playing squad.

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Should Martin be sacked after his inept use of Substitutions today. on 12:31 - Feb 5 with 3877 viewsSTID2017

Whittaker was not sold because nobody offered enough money to satisfy the greedy Yanks.
Had the bid been high enough he would have gone
Not sure why anyone ( pro or anti owners, pro or anti Martin) would believe anything else
Not sure they will get offers as generous for him in the summer

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