| Lack of signings 17:34 - Aug 20 with 5334 views | huwrichards57 |
Has any club in the EFL not made a signing since, what, early July? |  | | |  |
| Lack of signings on 18:06 - Aug 20 with 4004 views | KeithHaynes |
Good point Huw, not many mate that’s for sure. |  |
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| Lack of signings on 18:20 - Aug 20 with 3941 views | onehunglow |
Russell Martin Paints.
Jesus,cant read any more
Now he is Van Gogh's descendant | |
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| Lack of signings on 18:57 - Aug 20 with 3919 views | magicdaps10 |
Put a list of incoming and outgoings side by side for Swansea City and you will see how much weaker the squad is compared to last season.
Martin's under pressure and he needs help from the board. |  |
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| Lack of signings on 19:07 - Aug 20 with 3889 views | jojaca |
| Lack of signings on 18:57 - Aug 20 by magicdaps10 |
Put a list of incoming and outgoings side by side for Swansea City and you will see how much weaker the squad is compared to last season.
Martin's under pressure and he needs help from the board. |
If he's not getting any more signings like he said in the press conference. It's going to be a sh*t season.
If the yanks don't invest, there Flynn Downes type profits days are over. Not sure what they are trying to achieve. |  |
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| Lack of signings on 19:13 - Aug 20 with 3877 views | GVJack |
"Russell Martin says Swansea City must sell a key asset if they are to further strengthen their squad in the transfer window."
Well that's us screwed then.. Because we have no key assets to sell (other than Joe Allen of course) | | | |
| Lack of signings on 19:29 - Aug 20 with 3849 views | jasper_T |
| Lack of signings on 19:07 - Aug 20 by jojaca |
If he's not getting any more signings like he said in the press conference. It's going to be a sh*t season.
If the yanks don't invest, there Flynn Downes type profits days are over. Not sure what they are trying to achieve. |
I thought Darling was the new superstar destined for the PL? | | | |
| Lack of signings on 19:37 - Aug 20 with 3839 views | jack247 |
| Lack of signings on 19:29 - Aug 20 by jasper_T |
I thought Darling was the new superstar destined for the PL? |
He probably will be. To Martins credit, we have acquired some talented players in the last year or so.
Downes, Obafemi (I know we wanted him under Cooper), Ntcham, Darling and Wood have all been good signings. Allen too, though he probably would have ended up here regardless.
What we’re clearly not doing, is making anywhere near the most of the players we’ve got. | | | |
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| Lack of signings on 19:42 - Aug 20 with 3822 views | PawelAbbott |
| Lack of signings on 19:13 - Aug 20 by GVJack |
"Russell Martin says Swansea City must sell a key asset if they are to further strengthen their squad in the transfer window."
Well that's us screwed then.. Because we have no key assets to sell (other than Joe Allen of course) |
Don't give the guy anymore money to spend.
Get a new manager in, then give them something to spend | | | |
| Lack of signings on 19:50 - Aug 20 with 3809 views | jack247 |
| Lack of signings on 19:42 - Aug 20 by PawelAbbott |
Don't give the guy anymore money to spend.
Get a new manager in, then give them something to spend |
I don’t think there’s much chance of anyone getting any money to spend to be honest. Maybe a couple of frees or loans on deadline day. | | | |
| Lack of signings on 19:57 - Aug 20 with 3781 views | onehunglow |
| Lack of signings on 19:50 - Aug 20 by jack247 |
I don’t think there’s much chance of anyone getting any money to spend to be honest. Maybe a couple of frees or loans on deadline day. |
The very last things we need are Martin signings
We need to free ourselves of him asap.
Plenty of experienecd operators out there that would welcome managing our pppproper club | |
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| Lack of signings on 16:58 - Aug 22 with 3594 views | cadleigh |
I see we have been linked with Morgan Fox. Bit puzzled as to whether a left wingback is our most pressing need but then I realised he can double up as a centre back so that makes sense now. | |
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| Lack of signings on 17:06 - Aug 22 with 3573 views | KeithHaynes |
| Lack of signings on 16:58 - Aug 22 by cadleigh |
I see we have been linked with Morgan Fox. Bit puzzled as to whether a left wingback is our most pressing need but then I realised he can double up as a centre back so that makes sense now. |
Two bad hamstring pulls in 18 months. | |
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| Lack of signings on 17:14 - Aug 22 with 3549 views | jasper_T |
| Lack of signings on 16:58 - Aug 22 by cadleigh |
I see we have been linked with Morgan Fox. Bit puzzled as to whether a left wingback is our most pressing need but then I realised he can double up as a centre back so that makes sense now. |
His agent drew names of clubs out of a hat before ringing his favourite journalist. | | | |
| Lack of signings on 18:07 - Aug 22 with 3475 views | PawelAbbott |
| Lack of signings on 16:58 - Aug 22 by cadleigh |
I see we have been linked with Morgan Fox. Bit puzzled as to whether a left wingback is our most pressing need but then I realised he can double up as a centre back so that makes sense now. |
He is 28 and pllayed 10 games for Stoke last season and in a position that we have cover for.
I think this one is a goer | | | |
| Lack of signings on 21:25 - Aug 22 with 3347 views | KeithHaynes |
| Lack of signings on 17:14 - Aug 22 by jasper_T |
His agent drew names of clubs out of a hat before ringing his favourite journalist. |
Not a million miles away. | |
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| Lack of signings on 09:26 - Aug 23 with 3054 views | Dr_Parnassus |
No idea why this is a sticky.
But why does it matter what month business was done?
People moan when we do late business and now moaning when we have done early business.
This season:
1. Burnley £18.05m
2. Norwich £12.96m
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3. Hull City £10.35m
4. Boro £5.94m
5. Watford £5.22m
6. Sheff Utd £4.05m
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7. Sunderland £3.38m
8. Blackburn £2.66m
9. Swansea £2.37m (plus Joe Allen)
10. Millwall £2.25m
11. Luton £1.9m
12. WBA £900k
13. Huddersfield £846k
14. Cardiff £590k
15. Stoke City £0
16. Birmingham £0
17. Blackpool £0
18. Coventry £0
19. Bristol City £0
20. Preston £0
21. QPR £0
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22. Reading £0
23. Rotherham £0
24. Wigan £0
This season and last season combined in the Championship:
1. Burnley £18.05
2. Middlesbrough £16.24m
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3. Norwich £12.96m
4. Hull £11.35m
5. WBA £8.67m
6. Swansea £7.95m
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7. Watford £5.22m
8. Sheff Utd £4.28m
9. Stoke £4.19m
10. Blackburn £3.88m
11. Millwall £3.87m
12. Sunderland £3.38m
13. Luton £1.9m
14. Blackpool £1.8m
15. QPR £1.64m
16. Bristol C £1.44m
17. Preston £1.26m
18. Coventry £1.08m
19. Huddersfield £846k
20. Cardiff £590k
21. Birmingham £0
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22. Rotherham £0
23. Reading £0
24. Wigan £0
And fans are demanding EVEN MORE despite the predicament we are in. All just to give to a sub par manager to get himself out of a hole that his system has got us into - and will likely continue to get us into.
This latest narrative that we are somehow hard done by is just ludicrously out of touch with reality. We have a budget and spend money that most of the league can only dream of. Some haven’t spent a single penny in years on transfers.
For shame. [Post edited 23 Aug 2022 9:52]
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| Lack of signings on 09:34 - Aug 23 with 3057 views | Treforys_Jack |
We have the squad to make a decent fight for the top 6, if the manager would stop being so stubborn and change his tactical approach. Its been over 12mths and if anything its getting worse not better. 442, or 451 please Mr Martin. |  | | |
| Lack of signings on 14:49 - Aug 23 with 2847 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| Lack of signings on 09:34 - Aug 23 by Treforys_Jack |
We have the squad to make a decent fight for the top 6, if the manager would stop being so stubborn and change his tactical approach. Its been over 12mths and if anything its getting worse not better. 442, or 451 please Mr Martin. |
How can Martin send out Garrick Whittaker Joseph and Wbb frm hs squad without agreement for replacements/ It is a saving of around £500k in wages.
He would be better off telling the word the club is skint and Ollie Cooper, Cotterill, Abduallai, and MacFadyan are going to be thrown in the deep end. This is something the fans can buy into and forget all about top 6. |  |
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| Lack of signings on 15:03 - Aug 23 with 2815 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| Lack of signings on 14:49 - Aug 23 by ReslovenSwan1 |
How can Martin send out Garrick Whittaker Joseph and Wbb frm hs squad without agreement for replacements/ It is a saving of around £500k in wages.
He would be better off telling the word the club is skint and Ollie Cooper, Cotterill, Abduallai, and MacFadyan are going to be thrown in the deep end. This is something the fans can buy into and forget all about top 6. |
Because we are clearly operating in the red.
We have spent millions yet again this season bringing the likes of Allen and Darling in. In order to have done that business early on, we would have had to find a way to offload some of the wage bill, which we have done with Joseph et al - players Martin wasn’t going to use anyway.
If we offload someone it doesn’t mean their wages are then free to spend on more players.
Again, I’m not one of the owners biggest fans, but this latest attempt to blame them for… actually I don’t even know what they are being blamed for… is ludicrous all the same. [Post edited 23 Aug 2022 15:10]
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| Lack of signings on 16:08 - Aug 23 with 2781 views | Kerouac |
Martin had;
Bennett,
Cabango,
Naughton,
Latibeaudiere
& Cooper
...as centre-backs (he used Manning there too)
+ two loans of...
Williams,
Burns
....and we leaked goals like buggery.
He said we leaked goals because the defenders he had weren't good enough.
Some of us said we leaked goals because of his ludicrous 'system'.
So Martin then chose to buy two centre backs leaving him with...
Darling - £2m
Wood - £300k
Bennett, - freezed him out
Cabango,
Naughton,
Latibeaudiere
& Cooper freezed him out
...and we are still leaking goals like buggery.
If he had continued to play Bennett he could have saved 1 transfer fee and 1 wage.
He could have used that money to purchase a Right-Wing-Back.
If he had chosen to play a flat back four and keep what he had that would have left him with...
RB - Latibeaudiere
CB - Naughton
CB - Cabango
CB - Bennett
CB - Cooper
LB - Manning
Add up Darling, Wood and Sorinola's transfer fees and what have you got?
£2.5m ish and 3 wages
He could have used that money to sign a right-wing back and left wing-back with pace (so we had options to play them on the wing if the situation required or switch to Martin's system if he thought 4 at the back wasn't working)...and enough left over to purchase a centre-midfielder (so we had Grimes, Allen, Fulton and another).
We'd be in a far healthier position.
If he had kept Hamer and gave Benda his head he wouldn't have needed to sign Fisher...saving us £400k transfer fee and £10.5k a week.
More than enough to have loaned a decent young Premier League striker for the season to put pressure on the front two.
This is his mess. |  |
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| Lack of signings on 16:24 - Aug 23 with 2759 views | jasper_T |
Many fans don't realise how much of a deficit Championship clubs run at, and assume everything is at worst breaking even. So when a player then leaves there must be spare money lying around. Basic maths, innit.
Reducing the wage bill by £500k is a drop in the bucket when a typical Championship wage bill is £20-25m, on an income of £15m. The club borrowed £13m two years ago and that's long gone now, realistically we're not capable of paying that back any time soon. Give it a few years and the debts grow rapidly.
Can't fault the owners for telling the manager "no, we've got no money left". That's just facts and staying true to the sustainable club idea that everyone says they agree with when it suits them. | | | |
| Lack of signings on 16:29 - Aug 23 with 2750 views | Dr_Winston |
| Lack of signings on 16:24 - Aug 23 by jasper_T |
Many fans don't realise how much of a deficit Championship clubs run at, and assume everything is at worst breaking even. So when a player then leaves there must be spare money lying around. Basic maths, innit.
Reducing the wage bill by £500k is a drop in the bucket when a typical Championship wage bill is £20-25m, on an income of £15m. The club borrowed £13m two years ago and that's long gone now, realistically we're not capable of paying that back any time soon. Give it a few years and the debts grow rapidly.
Can't fault the owners for telling the manager "no, we've got no money left". That's just facts and staying true to the sustainable club idea that everyone says they agree with when it suits them. |
Amen.
People like Ian Walsh don't have the f*cking first idea what they're talking about. [Post edited 23 Aug 2022 16:30]
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| Lack of signings on 17:05 - Aug 23 with 2714 views | guthrieintherain |
| Lack of signings on 09:26 - Aug 23 by Dr_Parnassus |
No idea why this is a sticky.
But why does it matter what month business was done?
People moan when we do late business and now moaning when we have done early business.
This season:
1. Burnley £18.05m
2. Norwich £12.96m
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3. Hull City £10.35m
4. Boro £5.94m
5. Watford £5.22m
6. Sheff Utd £4.05m
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7. Sunderland £3.38m
8. Blackburn £2.66m
9. Swansea £2.37m (plus Joe Allen)
10. Millwall £2.25m
11. Luton £1.9m
12. WBA £900k
13. Huddersfield £846k
14. Cardiff £590k
15. Stoke City £0
16. Birmingham £0
17. Blackpool £0
18. Coventry £0
19. Bristol City £0
20. Preston £0
21. QPR £0
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22. Reading £0
23. Rotherham £0
24. Wigan £0
This season and last season combined in the Championship:
1. Burnley £18.05
2. Middlesbrough £16.24m
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3. Norwich £12.96m
4. Hull £11.35m
5. WBA £8.67m
6. Swansea £7.95m
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7. Watford £5.22m
8. Sheff Utd £4.28m
9. Stoke £4.19m
10. Blackburn £3.88m
11. Millwall £3.87m
12. Sunderland £3.38m
13. Luton £1.9m
14. Blackpool £1.8m
15. QPR £1.64m
16. Bristol C £1.44m
17. Preston £1.26m
18. Coventry £1.08m
19. Huddersfield £846k
20. Cardiff £590k
21. Birmingham £0
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22. Rotherham £0
23. Reading £0
24. Wigan £0
And fans are demanding EVEN MORE despite the predicament we are in. All just to give to a sub par manager to get himself out of a hole that his system has got us into - and will likely continue to get us into.
This latest narrative that we are somehow hard done by is just ludicrously out of touch with reality. We have a budget and spend money that most of the league can only dream of. Some haven’t spent a single penny in years on transfers.
For shame. [Post edited 23 Aug 2022 9:52]
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Come on put a sales column with a net spend as well.Only tells half the story otherwise.
We have recently sold
Downes
Rodon
Go back a bit further James and Ollie B.
Some clubs have not received much at all from sales so it's very relevant.
Not trying to defend Russ but painting a false picture is pointless. | |
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| Lack of signings on 17:20 - Aug 23 with 2693 views | Treforys_Jack |
| Lack of signings on 16:29 - Aug 23 by Dr_Winston |
Amen.
People like Ian Walsh don't have the f*cking first idea what they're talking about. [Post edited 23 Aug 2022 16:30]
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Exactky this, the bloke is a moron if he believes was he says, or is he just trying to get fans on the owners backs. | | | |
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