| Swansea City v Blackburn Rovers : Matchday Thread 22/23 11:38 - Aug 1 with 31210 views | NotLoyal |
It’s the first home game of the EFL season for Swansea City, the next home game will be the second and so on. It was the same last season as well, and it didn’t even get a mention, so this time around let’s pause for a second and have some consideration for consecutive numbering. For counting purposes it’s unrivalled. Oh and by the way, don’t steal my info like you do stories ya belting prunes.
Refs and stuff
STEPHEN MARTIN
Craig Taylor and Lee Venamore
Fourth Official : Ollie Yates
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Swansea City: Andy Fisher; Nathan Wood, Kyle Naughton, Harry Darling; Joel Latibeaudiere, Jay Fulton, Matt Grimes (captain), Ryan Manning; Joel Piroe, Olivier Ntcham, Michael Obafemi.
Substitutes: Steven Benda, Ben Cabango, Jamie Paterson, Matty Sorinola, Ollie Cooper, Cameron Congreve, Liam Cullen.
Blackburn Rovers: Thomas Kaminski, Callum Brittain, Harry Pickering, Daniel Ayala, Sammie Szmodics, Sam Gallagher, Scott Wharton, Ryan Hedges, John Buckley, Ben Brereton Diaz, Lewis Travis (captain).
Substitutes: Aynsley Pears, Tayo Edun, Bradley Dack, Tyler Morton, Jack Vale, Ash Phillips, Tyrhys Dolan.
Referee: Stephen Martin.
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| Swansea City v Blackburn Rovers : Matchday Thread : SATURDAY ! on 20:40 - Aug 6 with 1733 views | deepdale81 |
| Swansea City v Blackburn Rovers : Matchday Thread : SATURDAY ! on 20:33 - Aug 6 by vetchonian |
the man has a problem I also believe he has the players in such a mindset that they know any deviation from the plan and to play by instinct will result in ostracism |
Just think without effective wing backs with wingers ability,martins plan will never work.
Kyle joseph would do a better job as a wing back than labeatiure,and he,s off .What about that boy from shrewsbury he should be given a chance .
When is the last time we won by the way ?
I notice Ryan Hedges played for them today,was with the swans for a while. |  | | |
| Swansea City v Blackburn Rovers : Matchday Thread : SATURDAY ! on 20:41 - Aug 6 with 1725 views | KeithHaynes |
| Swansea City v Blackburn Rovers : Matchday Thread : SATURDAY ! on 20:40 - Aug 6 by deepdale81 |
Just think without effective wing backs with wingers ability,martins plan will never work.
Kyle joseph would do a better job as a wing back than labeatiure,and he,s off .What about that boy from shrewsbury he should be given a chance .
When is the last time we won by the way ?
I notice Ryan Hedges played for them today,was with the swans for a while. |
I’m getting the feeling we are wasting our time mate. |  |
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| Swansea City v Blackburn Rovers : Matchday Thread : SATURDAY ! on 20:43 - Aug 6 with 1704 views | raynor94 |
| Swansea City v Blackburn Rovers : Matchday Thread : SATURDAY ! on 20:33 - Aug 6 by vetchonian |
the man has a problem I also believe he has the players in such a mindset that they know any deviation from the plan and to play by instinct will result in ostracism |
Were you at the game today? |  |
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| Swansea City v Blackburn Rovers : Matchday Thread : SATURDAY ! on 20:44 - Aug 6 with 1697 views | STID2017 |
| Swansea City v Blackburn Rovers : Matchday Thread : SATURDAY ! on 20:00 - Aug 6 by raynor94 |
After following us for over 55 years, I think I have a clue, and I find your post rather condescending.
You come across as someone who has only known good times |
Talking to a friend after the game.
Obviously none of us had anything positive to say about today's game.
However his comments echoed the last part of your statement.
We have quite a large section of fans who have become entitled.
The peaks and troughs have been part of
his experience since the early 60"s.
If we sack Martin, where the heck to those calling for his head expect the money to pay him and his staff off
Also unless there is an influx of money ( which there won't be) why does anyone expect the team / squad to improve |  |
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| Swansea City v Blackburn Rovers : Matchday Thread : SATURDAY ! on 20:53 - Aug 6 with 1668 views | vetchonian |
| Swansea City v Blackburn Rovers : Matchday Thread : SATURDAY ! on 20:43 - Aug 6 by raynor94 |
Were you at the game today? |
I was and witnessed the clearing of the stands I stayed in my seat until the final whistle | |
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| Swansea City v Blackburn Rovers : Matchday Thread : SATURDAY ! on 20:54 - Aug 6 with 1665 views | deepdale81 |
| Swansea City v Blackburn Rovers : Matchday Thread : SATURDAY ! on 20:41 - Aug 6 by KeithHaynes |
I’m getting the feeling we are wasting our time mate. |
Times like this I think of 1975 re election,
1985 us going out of existence with mel nurse and the high court appeal and of course the great escape in 2002.
So things are much better than those days but with a recession looming can we trust the owners | | | |
| Swansea City v Blackburn Rovers : Matchday Thread : SATURDAY ! on 21:01 - Aug 6 with 1642 views | vetchonian |
| Swansea City v Blackburn Rovers : Matchday Thread : SATURDAY ! on 20:44 - Aug 6 by STID2017 |
Talking to a friend after the game.
Obviously none of us had anything positive to say about today's game.
However his comments echoed the last part of your statement.
We have quite a large section of fans who have become entitled.
The peaks and troughs have been part of
his experience since the early 60"s.
If we sack Martin, where the heck to those calling for his head expect the money to pay him and his staff off
Also unless there is an influx of money ( which there won't be) why does anyone expect the team / squad to improve |
no sense of entitlement but expectation
I have posted elsewhere back in the bad old days we had no pot to p in...trained on public parks and were not selling players on to the top division for £10m profit and still have a strike force we are valuing at £25m
I remember the days of re election the rise and fall of the Tosh era the high court the wilderness years...but expectations were based on what we had...since then we have come a long way....I dont forget those days i am grateful of being in the 2nd tier but i worry this manager will be our undoing | |
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| Swansea City v Blackburn Rovers : Matchday Thread : SATURDAY ! on 21:09 - Aug 6 with 1587 views | onehunglow |
| Swansea City v Blackburn Rovers : Matchday Thread : SATURDAY ! on 20:44 - Aug 6 by STID2017 |
Talking to a friend after the game.
Obviously none of us had anything positive to say about today's game.
However his comments echoed the last part of your statement.
We have quite a large section of fans who have become entitled.
The peaks and troughs have been part of
his experience since the early 60"s.
If we sack Martin, where the heck to those calling for his head expect the money to pay him and his staff off
Also unless there is an influx of money ( which there won't be) why does anyone expect the team / squad to improve |
So because we were crap and lowly once we have to accept this.
Success is an entitlement is it.
My god,with fans like this
Our club is being strangled . Preen to somebody equally shallow | |
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| Swansea City v Blackburn Rovers : Matchday Thread : SATURDAY ! on 21:36 - Aug 6 with 1511 views | STID2017 |
| Swansea City v Blackburn Rovers : Matchday Thread : SATURDAY ! on 21:01 - Aug 6 by vetchonian |
no sense of entitlement but expectation
I have posted elsewhere back in the bad old days we had no pot to p in...trained on public parks and were not selling players on to the top division for £10m profit and still have a strike force we are valuing at £25m
I remember the days of re election the rise and fall of the Tosh era the high court the wilderness years...but expectations were based on what we had...since then we have come a long way....I dont forget those days i am grateful of being in the 2nd tier but i worry this manager will be our undoing |
No good having excellent strikers if we can't get the ball up to them and into the area. | |
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| Swansea City v Blackburn Rovers : Matchday Thread : SATURDAY ! on 21:38 - Aug 6 with 1501 views | angryjack |
| Swansea City v Blackburn Rovers : Matchday Thread : SATURDAY ! on 21:09 - Aug 6 by onehunglow |
So because we were crap and lowly once we have to accept this.
Success is an entitlement is it.
My god,with fans like this
Our club is being strangled . Preen to somebody equally shallow |
Martin has got to go now..I could tell you all the reasons why but I have had a drink ..the bloke is a fraud | | | |
| Swansea City v Blackburn Rovers : Matchday Thread : SATURDAY ! on 21:41 - Aug 6 with 1500 views | shingle |
| Swansea City v Blackburn Rovers : Matchday Thread : SATURDAY ! on 20:00 - Aug 6 by raynor94 |
After following us for over 55 years, I think I have a clue, and I find your post rather condescending.
You come across as someone who has only known good times |
Nothing to do with good or bad times my gripe is our manager , I had an idea from his first press conference and have said from the very beginning the guy was a smooth talking fraud, while you obviously did not have any idea just how poor a manager he is. | | | |
| Swansea City v Blackburn Rovers : Matchday Thread : SATURDAY ! on 21:50 - Aug 6 with 1443 views | angryjack |
| Swansea City v Blackburn Rovers : Matchday Thread : SATURDAY ! on 21:36 - Aug 6 by STID2017 |
No good having excellent strikers if we can't get the ball up to them and into the area. |
There's a difference in getting the ball to the strijers when we move balk quick and the strukers are running onto balls in good areas and then the way we play when it is slow and pedestrianised and the strikers have got defenders around them and can only go backwards. Martins style is ruining good player's | | | |
| Swansea City v Blackburn Rovers : Matchday Thread : SATURDAY ! on 22:03 - Aug 6 with 1404 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| Swansea City v Blackburn Rovers : Matchday Thread : SATURDAY ! on 21:01 - Aug 6 by vetchonian |
no sense of entitlement but expectation
I have posted elsewhere back in the bad old days we had no pot to p in...trained on public parks and were not selling players on to the top division for £10m profit and still have a strike force we are valuing at £25m
I remember the days of re election the rise and fall of the Tosh era the high court the wilderness years...but expectations were based on what we had...since then we have come a long way....I dont forget those days i am grateful of being in the 2nd tier but i worry this manager will be our undoing |
Exactly, this newly trotted out (but poorly thought out) notion that because we were in League 2 once upon a time then any dross served up by Martin is great is ludicrously stupid.
Especially when these same people complained in a season we came 4th.
As you say, when we were in League 2 we were playing in line with the quality of squad we had and the size of budget we had. It was one of the worst squads and smallest budgets in the whole football pyramid.
Now we have the 8th biggest budget in the Championship and players that most other clubs in this league would fall over themselves to have.
As for where the money comes from to pay off Martin and his team.
Anywhere is my answer. Sell Piroe.
We have a much better chance of success with a competent manager in a side without Piroe than an incompetent manager in charge of a team with Piroe in.
No brainer. |  |
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| Swansea City v Blackburn Rovers : Matchday Thread : SATURDAY ! on 22:10 - Aug 6 with 1399 views | Brynmill_Jack |
| Swansea City v Blackburn Rovers : Matchday Thread : SATURDAY ! on 17:09 - Aug 6 by LittleEnglandJack |
I couldn't watch the game and I certainly think Martin out talk is premature, but it's clear we don't have the players for the system. We play a system that relies heavily on wingbacks to create chances, and don't have any decent ones.
I'd normally say that Martin needs to acknowledge this and change the system, but what worries is me that we don't have the players for any other system either. The squad is practically devoid of any pacey, skillful players who run at defenders and can beat a man.
If Martin was serious about changing the system to 4 at the back this year, the first priority aside from strengthening at centre half should have been signing some proper wingers. We haven't (yet).
Oh to play 4-2-3-1 again... |
We do have a good side but this complete fraud has clearly lost the players with his idiotic "system" - its not a system of course its just him telling the players to play walking football.
Time to go - now. |  |
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| Swansea City v Blackburn Rovers : Matchday Thread : SATURDAY ! on 22:11 - Aug 6 with 1398 views | cadleigh |
| Swansea City v Blackburn Rovers : Matchday Thread : SATURDAY ! on 16:01 - Aug 6 by NotLoyal |
Can’t you come up with anything different, it’s relentlessly shouting the same thing all the time. How about some discussion on where it’s going wrong, what can be done, why Piroe and Oba arent firing.
What you want to see even ?
Screaming Martin is this and that and outing players isn’t helping discussions. |
I do have a lot of sympathy for your position - seeing so many posters revert to ‘Martin out’ rather than discussing what can practically make a difference in the next game must be incredibly frustrating if you still believe in Martin’s project.
So here goes.
1 I would drop Fisher for Benda.
2 I would revert to a back four, with Cabango and Darling in CB, Naughton and Manning at FB.
3 I’d spend the rest of the transfer window trying to get some speedy wingers in. Or maybe just one speedy winger, tasked with floating from side to side like Hernandez did under Laudrup.
4 I’d instruct the team to move the ball forward with pace and not be afraid to lose possession by taking a chance.
All of which is a long way of saying that our problems start with the manager, his single-mindedness and the absence of anyone at the club able to tell him where he is going wrong.
Unfortunately our problems probably don’t end when he goes, whenever that might be. As I (and many others) have been predicting for a year now, he will leave us with an unbalanced squad that will take another season, maybe two, to put right, whether he leaves under a cloud or spirited away by a Premier League club.
But let’s not get carried away: we are only two games into the season, a lot can change yet. | |
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| Swansea City v Blackburn Rovers : Matchday Thread : SATURDAY ! on 22:19 - Aug 6 with 1384 views | raynor94 |
| Swansea City v Blackburn Rovers : Matchday Thread : SATURDAY ! on 20:53 - Aug 6 by vetchonian |
I was and witnessed the clearing of the stands I stayed in my seat until the final whistle |
Strange why were you posting on here during the game, using my phone was the last thing I was thinking of doing | |
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| Swansea City v Blackburn Rovers : Matchday Thread : SATURDAY ! on 22:19 - Aug 6 with 1382 views | Brynmill_Jack |
| Swansea City v Blackburn Rovers : Matchday Thread : SATURDAY ! on 19:45 - Aug 6 by jasper_T |
We know Martin likes to get his boots on and have a kick about with the players in training. Maybe that's why they're coached to play this way, give him a chance in the five a sides? |
If that's the case they need to rough him up a bit. KOL could do a better job than this right now. | |
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| Swansea City v Blackburn Rovers : Matchday Thread : SATURDAY ! on 22:23 - Aug 6 with 1371 views | Brynmill_Jack |
Is he a psychopath who genuinely believes he's some sort of footballing genius ? The level of delusion here is frightening. | |
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| Swansea City v Blackburn Rovers : Matchday Thread : SATURDAY ! on 22:29 - Aug 6 with 1362 views | Brynmill_Jack |
| Swansea City v Blackburn Rovers : Matchday Thread : SATURDAY ! on 20:26 - Aug 6 by Luther27 |
All well and good…until footfall and bucks coming in drop like a stone. |
He offered is usual nothing as far as I could see. Ntcham was gutless and Fulton not much better.
Playing the ball around at walking pace at the back isn't helping anyone to be fair but the game was crying out for someone to take responsibility and at least try to carry the ball forward.
I was ashamed of them today. No guts
Edit - this reply was meant for the post relating to Grimes [Post edited 6 Aug 2022 22:34]
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| Swansea City v Blackburn Rovers : Matchday Thread : SATURDAY ! on 22:30 - Aug 6 with 1361 views | STID2017 |
Did I really just read the answer to our problems is "a no brainer - Sell Piroe " ?
Unbelievable Jim.
So get rid of our best player, spunk all the money paying off the current manager and staff.
Great idea.
Leaves us minus our best player, no manager or staff and no money to recruit a new manager, staff or improve the playing squad.
Genius level thinking that | |
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| Swansea City v Blackburn Rovers : Matchday Thread : SATURDAY ! on 22:52 - Aug 6 with 1314 views | Catullus |
| Swansea City v Blackburn Rovers : Matchday Thread : SATURDAY ! on 21:01 - Aug 6 by vetchonian |
no sense of entitlement but expectation
I have posted elsewhere back in the bad old days we had no pot to p in...trained on public parks and were not selling players on to the top division for £10m profit and still have a strike force we are valuing at £25m
I remember the days of re election the rise and fall of the Tosh era the high court the wilderness years...but expectations were based on what we had...since then we have come a long way....I dont forget those days i am grateful of being in the 2nd tier but i worry this manager will be our undoing |
I'm with you. It's not entitlement to expect that when a system clearly is not working that the manager will do something about it.
The wing back thing, we don't have players good enough but still he puts them in, Latibeaudiere isn't good enough and its a liability. The slow pace of our game is also a liability, we allow teams to regroup and reset before we get into their half.
I don't expect promotion but I do expect us not to roll over to bang average side in our frst home game of a new season, we should have been up for it but we looked half asleep. | |
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| Swansea City v Blackburn Rovers : Matchday Thread : SATURDAY ! on 23:46 - Aug 6 with 1244 views | Luther27 |
| Swansea City v Blackburn Rovers : Matchday Thread : SATURDAY ! on 22:29 - Aug 6 by Brynmill_Jack |
He offered is usual nothing as far as I could see. Ntcham was gutless and Fulton not much better.
Playing the ball around at walking pace at the back isn't helping anyone to be fair but the game was crying out for someone to take responsibility and at least try to carry the ball forward.
I was ashamed of them today. No guts
Edit - this reply was meant for the post relating to Grimes [Post edited 6 Aug 2022 22:34]
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No worries.
Couldn’t make the match today….but the match reports, posts from the guys on here who were at the game….and nail in the coffin for me was. RM’s quotes were enough for me to conclude that I was right not to renew season tickets as long as this guy is in charge. | | | |
| Swansea City v Blackburn Rovers : Matchday Thread : SATURDAY ! on 07:39 - Aug 7 with 1035 views | vetchonian |
| Swansea City v Blackburn Rovers : Matchday Thread : SATURDAY ! on 22:19 - Aug 6 by raynor94 |
Strange why were you posting on here during the game, using my phone was the last thing I was thinking of doing |
I was bored...I was there Kevin Jinhs telling us abou the DJ in the East to help with the atmosphere and the giant shirt that never happened I n the words of Max Boyce I was there | |
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| Swansea City v Blackburn Rovers : Matchday Thread : SATURDAY ! on 08:05 - Aug 7 with 996 views | Fireboy2 |
| Swansea City v Blackburn Rovers : Matchday Thread : SATURDAY ! on 22:11 - Aug 6 by cadleigh |
I do have a lot of sympathy for your position - seeing so many posters revert to ‘Martin out’ rather than discussing what can practically make a difference in the next game must be incredibly frustrating if you still believe in Martin’s project.
So here goes.
1 I would drop Fisher for Benda.
2 I would revert to a back four, with Cabango and Darling in CB, Naughton and Manning at FB.
3 I’d spend the rest of the transfer window trying to get some speedy wingers in. Or maybe just one speedy winger, tasked with floating from side to side like Hernandez did under Laudrup.
4 I’d instruct the team to move the ball forward with pace and not be afraid to lose possession by taking a chance.
All of which is a long way of saying that our problems start with the manager, his single-mindedness and the absence of anyone at the club able to tell him where he is going wrong.
Unfortunately our problems probably don’t end when he goes, whenever that might be. As I (and many others) have been predicting for a year now, he will leave us with an unbalanced squad that will take another season, maybe two, to put right, whether he leaves under a cloud or spirited away by a Premier League club.
But let’s not get carried away: we are only two games into the season, a lot can change yet. |
Great post mate.
All great points especially no 4, it boils my p!ss when you see piroe or oba making runs into clear areas to then the player with the ball just turn and pass it either sideways or back, we need to take chances not worry about keeping the ball as its obviously not working. |  | | |
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