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Millwall v Swansea City : Matchday Thread 21/22 12:42 - Apr 3 with 15765 viewsNotLoyal



Play off chasers Millwall will be looking to return to winning ways in the Championship when they welcome Swansea City to the English capital on Tuesday night. The home side are currently 10th in the table, four points behind sixth-placed Blackburn Rovers, while Swansea, who thrashed Cardiff City on Saturday, occupy 16th position, 11 points off the playoffs.



MILLWALL
Millwall won five straight Championship matches between February 12 and March 5 to place themselves firmly in contention for a playoff spot, but they have only picked up maximum points from their last five games. Since beating Huddersfield Town 2-0 in the middle of March, they have lost to Stoke City and drawn with Luton Town, which has seen them drop into 10th spot in the table, four points behind sixth-placed Blackburn. The Lions now have back-to-back home matches against Swansea and Barnsley before a trip to Preston North End on April 15, and it will be fascinating to see where the capital outfit are in the table heading into their home clash with Hull City on April 18.

Millwall have never played in the Premier League, so it would be some achievement if they earned promotion to the top flight, but they have a lot of work to do to reach the top six, with Huddersfield, Luton Town, Middlesbrough and Blackburn currently the four teams in the playoffs.

SWANSEA CITY
Russell Martin's side have picked up seven points from their last three matches against Peterborough United, Birmingham City and Cardiff during a strong run, but a disappointing campaign overall has left them down in 16th spot in the table, boasting 51 points from 38 matches.The Swans are 11 points behind sixth-placed Blackburn with two matches in hand; the team can still mathematically finish in the playoffs, but it is incredibly unlikely due to the amount of sides above them. Swansea have been missing from the Premier League since the 2017-18 campaign, losing in the Championship playoffs in each of the last two seasons, and they are set for a fourth straight season in the second tier of English football, but the supporters will have been encouraged by the team's recent performances.


The matchday referee Andrew Davies has handed out an astonishing 81 cards in 28 games this season.



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Millwall v Swansea City : Matchday Thread 21/22 on 14:01 - Apr 6 with 1355 viewsjasper_T

Millwall v Swansea City : Matchday Thread 21/22 on 13:24 - Apr 6 by STID2017

I would keep Smith on the bench for the rest of this season as the bench looks a bit low on experience.
Hopefully in the summer, we will see an upgrade for Smith and other strengthening


If we sign another midfielder in the summer someone's lost the plot. We've got loads of them, and the brightest talents in the u23s play in that area.

Our bench looks good by Championship standards. Only one academy player (which should honestly be the minimum if we aim to have a productive academy). Joseph and Ogbeta cost serious money and should be getting minutes if we want them to ever prove value for it.
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Millwall v Swansea City : Matchday Thread 21/22 on 14:07 - Apr 6 with 1333 viewsSTID2017

Millwall v Swansea City : Matchday Thread 21/22 on 14:01 - Apr 6 by jasper_T

If we sign another midfielder in the summer someone's lost the plot. We've got loads of them, and the brightest talents in the u23s play in that area.

Our bench looks good by Championship standards. Only one academy player (which should honestly be the minimum if we aim to have a productive academy). Joseph and Ogbeta cost serious money and should be getting minutes if we want them to ever prove value for it.


Depends what happens with Dhanda, Downes, Fulton and Smith.
Possibility all four could go for different reasons.
Would definitely need to use money from Downes and Piroe ( if either or both are sold ) to strengthen the team again
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Millwall v Swansea City : Matchday Thread 21/22 on 14:27 - Apr 6 with 1307 viewsjasper_T

Millwall v Swansea City : Matchday Thread 21/22 on 14:07 - Apr 6 by STID2017

Depends what happens with Dhanda, Downes, Fulton and Smith.
Possibility all four could go for different reasons.
Would definitely need to use money from Downes and Piroe ( if either or both are sold ) to strengthen the team again
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I'd be very surprised to see Fulton leave. He's on too much money to make him an attractive option to other clubs who might want him. He'll likely be here until he's 30.

We've got Grimes, Downes, Fulton, Smith, Walsh, Williams (back in December), Abdullai and Cotterill in the pipeline for the deeper midfield roles. Realistically it's Grimes plus one as he doesn't miss games. Then add Paterson, Piroe, Ntcham, Cooper, and Congreve as options in front of them. It's a well-stocked cupboard.

Compare it to the wingback situation. We might be okay on the left with Ogbeta and McFayden but there's nothing on the right once Christie goes back. I'm sure we'll be wanting upgrades at centre half as well. If we don't sell anyone where does the money come from to fund those essentials?
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Millwall v Swansea City : Matchday Thread 21/22 on 14:35 - Apr 6 with 1287 viewsWhiterockin

Millwall v Swansea City : Matchday Thread 21/22 on 14:27 - Apr 6 by jasper_T

I'd be very surprised to see Fulton leave. He's on too much money to make him an attractive option to other clubs who might want him. He'll likely be here until he's 30.

We've got Grimes, Downes, Fulton, Smith, Walsh, Williams (back in December), Abdullai and Cotterill in the pipeline for the deeper midfield roles. Realistically it's Grimes plus one as he doesn't miss games. Then add Paterson, Piroe, Ntcham, Cooper, and Congreve as options in front of them. It's a well-stocked cupboard.

Compare it to the wingback situation. We might be okay on the left with Ogbeta and McFayden but there's nothing on the right once Christie goes back. I'm sure we'll be wanting upgrades at centre half as well. If we don't sell anyone where does the money come from to fund those essentials?


I think Christie's contract with Fulham runs out in the summer are we likely to keep him?

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Millwall v Swansea City : Matchday Thread 21/22 on 14:39 - Apr 6 with 1268 viewscadleigh

Millwall v Swansea City : Matchday Thread 21/22 on 11:15 - Apr 6 by Flynnidine_Zidownes

I doubt that chant was intended to be aimed at the good citizens of Bermondsey.


Indeed. But I looked pretty hard and couldn't see any Cardiff fans in the ground so I did wonder what the point was. Singing songs to taunt people who will never hear them is just self-gratification and we all know that that leads to sight loss in the end.
Totally understandable that people are on cloud nine still after our famous double. Just hoping it doesn't become a habit.

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Millwall v Swansea City : Matchday Thread 21/22 on 14:53 - Apr 6 with 1250 viewstrampie

Millwall v Swansea City : Matchday Thread 21/22 on 14:39 - Apr 6 by cadleigh

Indeed. But I looked pretty hard and couldn't see any Cardiff fans in the ground so I did wonder what the point was. Singing songs to taunt people who will never hear them is just self-gratification and we all know that that leads to sight loss in the end.
Totally understandable that people are on cloud nine still after our famous double. Just hoping it doesn't become a habit.


"Are you listening on the box, Cardiff City, Cardiff City are you listening on the box", was an old favourite when Swans reached the top division first time round and Swansea weren't even playing Cardiff but that is what the Swansea crowd was singing.
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Millwall v Swansea City : Matchday Thread 21/22 on 20:43 - Apr 6 with 1106 viewsswan65split

I missed the goal last night I only seen the end result until this evening, it was in a post of FB.

This passing game isn't upto much is it?!
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Millwall v Swansea City : Matchday Thread 21/22 on 21:18 - Apr 6 with 1080 viewsDr_Winston

Millwall v Swansea City : Matchday Thread 21/22 on 14:35 - Apr 6 by Whiterockin

I think Christie's contract with Fulham runs out in the summer are we likely to keep him?


Guess it all depends on the cash. Likely to be his last serious contract and might be offered more than we can afford elsewhere.

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Millwall v Swansea City : Matchday Thread 21/22 on 21:27 - Apr 6 with 1067 viewsNotLoyal

Millwall v Swansea City : Matchday Thread 21/22 on 21:18 - Apr 6 by Dr_Winston

Guess it all depends on the cash. Likely to be his last serious contract and might be offered more than we can afford elsewhere.


Rumour states he is to be offered a two year deal 10k a week.

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Millwall v Swansea City : Matchday Thread 21/22 on 21:43 - Apr 6 with 1048 viewsWhiterockin

Millwall v Swansea City : Matchday Thread 21/22 on 21:27 - Apr 6 by NotLoyal

Rumour states he is to be offered a two year deal 10k a week.


Probably with a nice promotion bonus.

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Millwall v Swansea City : Matchday Thread 21/22 on 21:50 - Apr 6 with 1039 viewscadleigh

Millwall v Swansea City : Matchday Thread 21/22 on 14:53 - Apr 6 by trampie

"Are you listening on the box, Cardiff City, Cardiff City are you listening on the box", was an old favourite when Swans reached the top division first time round and Swansea weren't even playing Cardiff but that is what the Swansea crowd was singing.
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At the risk of being pedantic, I think there’s a difference between chants which demonstrate your identity by reference to clubs you regard as your opposition (‘are you watching, Cardiff…’, ‘Cardiff City’s falling down…’, ‘Cardiff City went to see the Pope..’ etc), which opposition supporters will understand as not directed at them, and a chant asking an unnamed club (and therefore assumed to be directed at the home supporters) if they have ever done the double on us. Which in the case of Millwall they have. Three times. Makes us look like we haven’t done our homework.
Easily solved by amending the chant to ‘Have Cardiff done the double on the Swans’. Sorted.
And don’t get me started on ‘In the Barnet slums’. The irony of young people from Blaen-y-Maes accusing the wealthy and welcoming residents of Barnet of subsisting on vermin. Sigh…

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Millwall v Swansea City : Matchday Thread 21/22 on 21:55 - Apr 6 with 1034 viewsbuilthjack

Millwall v Swansea City : Matchday Thread 21/22 on 21:50 - Apr 6 by cadleigh

At the risk of being pedantic, I think there’s a difference between chants which demonstrate your identity by reference to clubs you regard as your opposition (‘are you watching, Cardiff…’, ‘Cardiff City’s falling down…’, ‘Cardiff City went to see the Pope..’ etc), which opposition supporters will understand as not directed at them, and a chant asking an unnamed club (and therefore assumed to be directed at the home supporters) if they have ever done the double on us. Which in the case of Millwall they have. Three times. Makes us look like we haven’t done our homework.
Easily solved by amending the chant to ‘Have Cardiff done the double on the Swans’. Sorted.
And don’t get me started on ‘In the Barnet slums’. The irony of young people from Blaen-y-Maes accusing the wealthy and welcoming residents of Barnet of subsisting on vermin. Sigh…


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Millwall v Swansea City : Matchday Thread 21/22 on 22:06 - Apr 6 with 1020 viewsBoundy

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Millwall v Swansea City : Matchday Thread 21/22 on 22:25 - Apr 6 with 1002 viewsjasper_T

Millwall v Swansea City : Matchday Thread 21/22 on 21:27 - Apr 6 by NotLoyal

Rumour states he is to be offered a two year deal 10k a week.


Big pay cut for him. Hope he's been saving to cover his heating bills.
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Millwall v Swansea City : Matchday Thread 21/22 on 22:30 - Apr 6 with 995 viewscadleigh

Millwall v Swansea City : Matchday Thread 21/22 on 21:55 - Apr 6 by builthjack

New poster?


Pretty sure I have been registered on here as long as most and never posted on here under another user name so... no, not a new poster. Why do you ask?

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Millwall v Swansea City : Matchday Thread 21/22 on 22:34 - Apr 6 with 992 viewsbuilthjack

Millwall v Swansea City : Matchday Thread 21/22 on 22:30 - Apr 6 by cadleigh

Pretty sure I have been registered on here as long as most and never posted on here under another user name so... no, not a new poster. Why do you ask?


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Millwall v Swansea City : Matchday Thread 21/22 on 08:43 - Apr 7 with 869 viewscadleigh

Millwall v Swansea City : Matchday Thread 21/22 on 22:34 - Apr 6 by builthjack

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Cheers, Builth. I was a regular poster on another site until recently, under the same name, as other posters on here can testify. I won't name the site as it's not classy to diss people by name (even an assumed identity like a user name) without giving them an opportunity to answer back, and I wouldn't want to do Keith a disservice by giving the oxygen of publicity to another site in case posters click away from this excellent forum. Much happier as a result of the switch and scratching my head as to why I dodn't do it long ago

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Millwall v Swansea City : Matchday Thread 21/22 on 08:47 - Apr 7 with 858 viewscadleigh

Millwall v Swansea City : Matchday Thread 21/22 on 21:50 - Apr 6 by cadleigh

At the risk of being pedantic, I think there’s a difference between chants which demonstrate your identity by reference to clubs you regard as your opposition (‘are you watching, Cardiff…’, ‘Cardiff City’s falling down…’, ‘Cardiff City went to see the Pope..’ etc), which opposition supporters will understand as not directed at them, and a chant asking an unnamed club (and therefore assumed to be directed at the home supporters) if they have ever done the double on us. Which in the case of Millwall they have. Three times. Makes us look like we haven’t done our homework.
Easily solved by amending the chant to ‘Have Cardiff done the double on the Swans’. Sorted.
And don’t get me started on ‘In the Barnet slums’. The irony of young people from Blaen-y-Maes accusing the wealthy and welcoming residents of Barnet of subsisting on vermin. Sigh…


Also Millwall is not a bus stop in West Ham, as they are on opposite sides of the River Thames. That chant made as much sense as chanting 'Bus stop in Bristol' at Cardiff fans. 'Bus stop in Charlton' would have been better. Top marks to those fans for knowing about the Millwall/West Ham rivalry though.
I think that's probably enough pedantry for now...

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Millwall v Swansea City : Matchday Thread 21/22 on 08:58 - Apr 7 with 846 viewsSTID2017

Millwall v Swansea City : Matchday Thread 21/22 on 08:47 - Apr 7 by cadleigh

Also Millwall is not a bus stop in West Ham, as they are on opposite sides of the River Thames. That chant made as much sense as chanting 'Bus stop in Bristol' at Cardiff fans. 'Bus stop in Charlton' would have been better. Top marks to those fans for knowing about the Millwall/West Ham rivalry though.
I think that's probably enough pedantry for now...


I went to a Charlton - Millwall game Easter 1977.
Then went to see Colchester Swans in the evening.
Charlton won 3 - 0.
Millwall "fans" were their usual troublesome selfs

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Millwall v Swansea City : Matchday Thread 21/22 on 09:53 - Apr 7 with 819 viewscadleigh

Millwall v Swansea City : Matchday Thread 21/22 on 08:58 - Apr 7 by STID2017

I went to a Charlton - Millwall game Easter 1977.
Then went to see Colchester Swans in the evening.
Charlton won 3 - 0.
Millwall "fans" were their usual troublesome selfs


I was surprised at how tame they were the other night, but then again that's my first trip there since 2011 so maybe they've mellowed. Particular lowlights from the past include the night match in a cup competition when the police took the evening off (1999?) and the league match when we were kettled by the Transport Police who tried to send us all back to Swansea on a train. Even those who lived in Sarf London.

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Millwall v Swansea City : Matchday Thread 21/22 on 09:53 - Apr 7 by cadleigh

I was surprised at how tame they were the other night, but then again that's my first trip there since 2011 so maybe they've mellowed. Particular lowlights from the past include the night match in a cup competition when the police took the evening off (1999?) and the league match when we were kettled by the Transport Police who tried to send us all back to Swansea on a train. Even those who lived in Sarf London.


Madness that.
Trying to force people to catch the wrong train ?

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Millwall v Swansea City : Matchday Thread 21/22 on 15:26 - Apr 7 with 732 viewscadleigh

Millwall v Swansea City : Matchday Thread 21/22 on 13:51 - Apr 7 by STID2017

Madness that.
Trying to force people to catch the wrong train ?


Oh yes. That was a mad day. Those of us not on the coaches were kept in (as usual) for 45 minutes then escorted to South Bermondsey station between two ranks of police. We were grateful for the cordon because the Millwall ultras kept emerging from the side streets, throwing bricks and then trying to draw the police away while another lot waited round the next corner.
But once we got to the station they wouldn't let us go or get on trains to London Bridge, we had to get on a special service just for us to Victoria, at which point they told us we were going to be marched to Paddington and put on a train to Wales. Transport Police were spoiling for a fight that day. Eventually someone threw a punch in the tube tunnels at Victoria, a CS Gas cannister went off and everyone scattered.

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Millwall v Swansea City : Matchday Thread 21/22 on 15:43 - Apr 7 with 714 viewsNotLoyal

Millwall v Swansea City : Matchday Thread 21/22 on 09:53 - Apr 7 by cadleigh

I was surprised at how tame they were the other night, but then again that's my first trip there since 2011 so maybe they've mellowed. Particular lowlights from the past include the night match in a cup competition when the police took the evening off (1999?) and the league match when we were kettled by the Transport Police who tried to send us all back to Swansea on a train. Even those who lived in Sarf London.


I was with a few for that game, London Bridge etc. Tooze at the helm, he always made me laugh. Very funny bloke. I think the one you are referring to is the ‘no runners’ away game. I was working in London then and it took me longer to get home two miles away than it would now to check in and fly to London from Belfast, which I’m looking forward to doing in a few weeks time.

That was a mad day, you have to sympathise with the police there were so many Swansea there just looking for trouble, literally hundreds. Millwall must get completely bored with it all with every chancer in the country wanting to take them in every other week.

Mind you a mate if mine, a very well known Jack was at the game on Tuesday, looking forward to meeting up with him at Forest again, He said they were frothing at the mouth, the older they were the more frothier. 😂

They do bring a lot of it on themselves.

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Millwall v Swansea City : Matchday Thread 21/22 on 22:54 - Apr 7 with 661 viewscadleigh

Millwall v Swansea City : Matchday Thread 21/22 on 15:43 - Apr 7 by NotLoyal

I was with a few for that game, London Bridge etc. Tooze at the helm, he always made me laugh. Very funny bloke. I think the one you are referring to is the ‘no runners’ away game. I was working in London then and it took me longer to get home two miles away than it would now to check in and fly to London from Belfast, which I’m looking forward to doing in a few weeks time.

That was a mad day, you have to sympathise with the police there were so many Swansea there just looking for trouble, literally hundreds. Millwall must get completely bored with it all with every chancer in the country wanting to take them in every other week.

Mind you a mate if mine, a very well known Jack was at the game on Tuesday, looking forward to meeting up with him at Forest again, He said they were frothing at the mouth, the older they were the more frothier. 😂

They do bring a lot of it on themselves.


I have a very different memory of that day. It was always going to be bad because Millwall had played Cardiff away a week or two previously and they were keen to settle scores with anyone vaguely Welsh. I didn't get to London Bridge before the game until after it all kicked off there so I can't say who was at fault, but after the game was over I don't remember much provocation from the Swans supporters, who mostly had full bladders and dry mouths two and a half hours after we were last able to access anything to drink and nearly two hours after we were last able to get to a loo. What I do remember is a British Transport Police officer taunting us that 'your generals weren't much cop today', another one pushing an old guy to the ground when he tried to leave the railway station to go to his car and a mate of mine being thrown down a flight of stairs by a copper who laughed at us when we asked for his badge number.

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Millwall v Swansea City : Matchday Thread 21/22 on 23:02 - Apr 7 with 652 viewsSTID2017

Bad state of affairs that.
Trouble is some go looking for trouble and the rest of us law abiding citizens get lumped in with it.
Thus the Cardiff - Swans bubbles just because a ( sizeable ) minority can't behave

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