| Curran charged by FA 17:31 - Oct 28 with 14498 views | wozzrafc |
Thought it is worth it’s own thread
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| Curran charged by FA on 23:08 - Oct 28 with 7017 views | RAFCBLUE |
| Curran charged by FA on 18:53 - Oct 28 by Sandyman |
Mr Curran will be sat, wherever he is sat, pondering this charge, it's consequences, and how what was put to him as a shoe-in went so wrong. The loss of anonymity, the loss of money. Why was he so badly advised? Who could have got him into a fine mess....?
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Stan: “If I had any sense, I'd walk out on you.”
Ollie: “Well, it's a good thing you haven't any sense.”
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| Curran charged by FA on 00:32 - Oct 29 with 6899 views | Sandyman |
So, so embarrassing for someone who spent years keeping himself out of the limelight. Remember when...
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2021/08/05/efl-investigating-homophobic-slu
"The call nevertheless prompted a WhatsApp message from Alexander Jarvis, who described himself in a phone call as an advisor to what he admitted was a “hostile takeover” and said that Curran was “a bit of a recluse”."
So, so embarrassing for someone who spent years keeping himself out of the limelight to be outed for his own indiscretions all over the media. From no internet footprint to loads whenever the name Andrew Curran is typed into Google. Believing you always got your own way in business stopped at Rochdale AFC. Whoever led Mr Curran to think we'd be a walkover were clearly clueless and more interested in self-interest. We know and Mr Curran knows who they were.
Guess there will be even more media links to the FA charge tomorrow. Do share them here. Let Alex and David explain them to Mr Curran.
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| Curran charged by FA on 09:11 - Oct 29 with 6600 views | seasidedale |
Thing is what power do the FA have other than stop him being involved in football, if they fine him would he have to pay, don’t think there is a legality in it, (could be wrong), important thing is it would prevent him from resurfacing in the future trying to get a foothold in the dale | | | |
| Curran charged by FA on 09:47 - Oct 29 with 6528 views | D_Alien |
Articles appearing on quality football websites, relating to the FA charge
How about the BBC website? FA...
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| Curran charged by FA on 10:07 - Oct 29 with 6498 views | ColDale |
| Curran charged by FA on 09:11 - Oct 29 by seasidedale |
Thing is what power do the FA have other than stop him being involved in football, if they fine him would he have to pay, don’t think there is a legality in it, (could be wrong), important thing is it would prevent him from resurfacing in the future trying to get a foothold in the dale |
I suspect that an FA Charge (especially if there is a refusal to cooperate) would be very supportive to the EFL's investigation and lead to a permanent black mark against him in terms of being an owner or director.
And given that he never officially named in anything related to Morton House, there will always be that suspicion that he is involved in anything related to what was 42% of the shares in the club. It pretty much makes those shares worthless. Even if MH were to sell them to a 3rd party, the EFL would always look upon it as Curran operating with a random name similar to Facial. |  | | |
| Curran charged by FA on 16:34 - Oct 29 with 6069 views | RAFCBLUE |
| Curran charged by FA on 10:07 - Oct 29 by ColDale |
I suspect that an FA Charge (especially if there is a refusal to cooperate) would be very supportive to the EFL's investigation and lead to a permanent black mark against him in terms of being an owner or director.
And given that he never officially named in anything related to Morton House, there will always be that suspicion that he is involved in anything related to what was 42% of the shares in the club. It pretty much makes those shares worthless. Even if MH were to sell them to a 3rd party, the EFL would always look upon it as Curran operating with a random name similar to Facial. |
The question from the EFL will be "Why are you actually at the meeting?"
If The Scouse Disaster, Alexander Jarvis, had been bright enough to keep Homophobic Andy away from the EFL meeting none of this might have happened.
The fact that Jarvis then proactively ran the Daily Telegraph to brief them, the better it became.
That article said of Curran and Jarvis.
That followed a bizarre phone call with Telegraph Sport in which he said he had “nothing to do with Rochdale”.
The call nevertheless prompted a WhatsApp message from Alexander Jarvis, who described himself as an adviser to what he admitted was a “hostile takeover” and said that Curran was “a bit of a recluse”.
Curran is a homophobic recluse and up before the beak of the FA on Monday 8th November. | |
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| Curran charged by FA on 17:13 - Nov 6 with 5362 views | Sandyman |
"Andrew Curran has until Monday 8 November 2021 to provide a response"
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| Curran charged by FA on 17:28 - Nov 6 with 5297 views | RAFCBLUE |
| Curran charged by FA on 17:13 - Nov 6 by Sandyman |
"Andrew Curran has until Monday 8 November 2021 to provide a response"
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With everything going on at Yorkshire CCC concerning properly recording evidence and outcomes relating to alleged unacceptable practice, I hope Andrew Curran has a good solicitor.
The EFL, who held the meeting, will have. They hosted the meeting where the comments were made. They have been reported in the Daily Telegraph.
Homophobia is unacceptable in any walk of life.
I hope the outcome for Curran and Morton House is front page news. It deserves to be. | |
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| Curran charged by FA on 20:45 - Nov 6 with 5062 views | EllDale |
Pardon me for being naive but I’m not sure what sanction the EFL can impose on Curran should they find him guilty? He’s no formal club connection?
Or can they fine or ban private citizens for the use of abusive language? God help half of the regular denizens of the Sandy if so! | | | |
| Curran charged by FA on 20:56 - Nov 6 with 5045 views | UpTheDaleNotForSale |
| Curran charged by FA on 20:45 - Nov 6 by EllDale |
Pardon me for being naive but I’m not sure what sanction the EFL can impose on Curran should they find him guilty? He’s no formal club connection?
Or can they fine or ban private citizens for the use of abusive language? God help half of the regular denizens of the Sandy if so! |
We believe there could be several football related sanctions (eg. never allowed to be a director / owner, not allowed to be the 'ultimate source of funds' for other owners / directors)...
More importantly, we believe the evidence could be the basis of a potential criminal investigation. |  |
| Twitter : @DaleNotForSale
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| Curran charged by FA on 22:13 - Nov 6 with 4908 views | RAFCBLUE |
| Curran charged by FA on 20:56 - Nov 6 by UpTheDaleNotForSale |
We believe there could be several football related sanctions (eg. never allowed to be a director / owner, not allowed to be the 'ultimate source of funds' for other owners / directors)...
More importantly, we believe the evidence could be the basis of a potential criminal investigation. |
https://www.thefa.com/football-rules-governance/policies/equality/football-v-hom
With the expertise of the Football v Homophobia team, this tool kit has been compiled because we want to bring the debate to the fore and, just like the anti-racism campaigns, ensure everyone understands homophobia and transphobia in football is unacceptable.
And, once more, illegal.
Curran has picked a bad week to go in front of the FA.
The Daily Telegraph has reported this as "FA investigating homophobic slur accusation":
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2021/08/05/efl-investigating-homophobic-slu
Proper investigation into allegations, their investigation and their resolution and punishment is high on the agenda given the shocking failures in the case of cricketer Aseem Rafiq vs Yorkshire CCC.
Will a governing body not want to be seen as strong on a question of investigating a homophobic slur?
Remember this is an EFL investigation and those present (Andrew Curran, Alexander Jarvis, representatives of the EFL and representatives of Rochdale AFC) will all have been approached for evidence.
In terms of punishment, it can only be made is Curran is not cleared and once all the evidence is heard but to get an idea, the Peterborough player Jonson Clarke-Harris was charged with:
Breach of FA Rule E3 - Misconduct for six breaches of FA Rule E3 in respect of media comments posted on the Participant’s Twitter account between 27 October 2012 and 6 March 2013. It is alleged these posts were insulting and/or abusive and/or improper and/or brought the game into disrepute contrary to Rule E3.1. It is further alleged that these breaches of Rule E3.1 is an “Aggravated Breach” as defined in Rule E3.2, as it includes reference to sexual orientation.
This is being charged on the same basis as Curran has been.
Clarke-Harris was given a 4 game ban, fined £5,300 and ordered to engage face-to-face education.
https://www.skysports.com/football/news/12040/12415488/jonson-clarke-harris-pete | |
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| Curran charged by FA on 21:00 - Nov 8 with 4419 views | UpTheDaleNotForSale |
So how do we think Mr Curran responded? | |
| Twitter : @DaleNotForSale
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| Curran charged by FA on 23:00 - Nov 8 with 4188 views | Hopwoodblue |
| Curran charged by FA on 21:00 - Nov 8 by UpTheDaleNotForSale |
So how do we think Mr Curran responded? |
Hopefully with two fingers getting him in more trouble ! |  |
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| Curran charged by FA on 21:20 - Nov 9 with 3714 views | RAFCBLUE |
As I understand it, the FA process is pretty straightforward.
They charge you.
They offer you the chance to submit a response to that charge.
If you respond then they consider that and reach an outcome.
If you choose not to respond then they pass that to the next disciplinary committee who discuss it and reach an outcome.
As far as I can tell, usually reported here:
https://www.thefa.com/football-rules-governance/discipline | |
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| Curran charged by FA on 09:30 - Nov 12 with 3162 views | BigKindo |
| Curran charged by FA on 21:20 - Nov 9 by RAFCBLUE |
As I understand it, the FA process is pretty straightforward.
They charge you.
They offer you the chance to submit a response to that charge.
If you respond then they consider that and reach an outcome.
If you choose not to respond then they pass that to the next disciplinary committee who discuss it and reach an outcome.
As far as I can tell, usually reported here:
https://www.thefa.com/football-rules-governance/discipline |
Misleading wording by the FA. It reads as though Curran is actually involved with the day to day activities of Dale. Perhaps the FA should have also mentioned the EFL?
INCIDENT OF MISCONDUCT
Andrew Curran, Rochdale FC
Breach of FA Rule E3 - Misconduct for a breach of FA Rule E3 in respect of a comment made during a meeting. It is alleged that the Participant used improper and/or abusive and/or insulting language contrary to Rule E3.1. It is further alleged that this breach of Rule E3.1 is an “Aggravated Breach”, as defined in Rule E3.2, as the language included a reference to, whether express or implied, to sexual orientation.
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| Curran charged by FA on 13:08 - Nov 18 with 2652 views | UpTheDaleNotForSale |
Giving this a bump... 10 days since the deadline for Curran's response to the FA - and they seem to be firing out outcomes left right and centre over the last couple of days. | |
| Twitter : @DaleNotForSale
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| Curran charged by FA on 14:53 - Nov 18 with 2466 views | RAFCBLUE |
| Curran charged by FA on 13:08 - Nov 18 by UpTheDaleNotForSale |
Giving this a bump... 10 days since the deadline for Curran's response to the FA - and they seem to be firing out outcomes left right and centre over the last couple of days. |
Very hard one for the FA given all of the headlines about cover up of prejudice in the press, particularly at Yorkshire CC.
Diversity and inclusion are the FA's buzzwords. Will be interesting to see if they try to sweep it under the carpet, or choose to make an example of a nobody in football knowing that they will get praise from all quarters for confronting homophobia in football. | |
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| Curran charged by FA on 21:08 - Dec 7 with 1794 views | blackdogblue |
This is a really interesting & thanks for the link..
This caught my eye in November…. Wonder if I go back far enough there may be some RIPBFC charges on there 😀
INCIDENT OF MISCONDUCT
Tommy Wright, First Team Coach/Caretaker Manager, Swindon Town FC
Two breaches of FA Rule E3:
1. Requesting, agreeing to receive or accepting a financial or other advantage, contrary to section 2 of the Bribery Act 2010. (Count 2).
2. Requesting, agreeing to receive or accepting a financial or other advantage, contrary to section 2 of the Bribery Act 2010. (Count 4).
Charge admitted. Paper hearing requested.
RESULT
Effective 16 November 2021, suspended from all football and football-related activity, save for coaching, for six (6) years. |  |
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| Curran charged by FA on 21:11 - Dec 7 with 1783 views | judd |
| Curran charged by FA on 21:08 - Dec 7 by blackdogblue |
This is a really interesting & thanks for the link..
This caught my eye in November…. Wonder if I go back far enough there may be some RIPBFC charges on there 😀
INCIDENT OF MISCONDUCT
Tommy Wright, First Team Coach/Caretaker Manager, Swindon Town FC
Two breaches of FA Rule E3:
1. Requesting, agreeing to receive or accepting a financial or other advantage, contrary to section 2 of the Bribery Act 2010. (Count 2).
2. Requesting, agreeing to receive or accepting a financial or other advantage, contrary to section 2 of the Bribery Act 2010. (Count 4).
Charge admitted. Paper hearing requested.
RESULT
Effective 16 November 2021, suspended from all football and football-related activity, save for coaching, for six (6) years. |
Great spot |  |
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| Curran charged by FA on 21:18 - Dec 7 with 1767 views | judd |
| Curran charged by FA on 21:08 - Dec 7 by blackdogblue |
This is a really interesting & thanks for the link..
This caught my eye in November…. Wonder if I go back far enough there may be some RIPBFC charges on there 😀
INCIDENT OF MISCONDUCT
Tommy Wright, First Team Coach/Caretaker Manager, Swindon Town FC
Two breaches of FA Rule E3:
1. Requesting, agreeing to receive or accepting a financial or other advantage, contrary to section 2 of the Bribery Act 2010. (Count 2).
2. Requesting, agreeing to receive or accepting a financial or other advantage, contrary to section 2 of the Bribery Act 2010. (Count 4).
Charge admitted. Paper hearing requested.
RESULT
Effective 16 November 2021, suspended from all football and football-related activity, save for coaching, for six (6) years. |
Linked to his time at Barnsley
https://www.theargus.co.uk/news/18107936.stupid-naive-dax-price-paid-bribes-gain | |
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| Curran charged by FA on 21:29 - Dec 7 with 1732 views | blackdogblue |
Cheers, have bookmarked it tbh ðŸ‘
Been trying to look back to when my boy got a straight red card when he played for Whitworth Valley, think it was U13 when the FA fines came into place but probably not there as I didn’t appeal it.. was funny until I got an email saying cough up 🤨😀 | |
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