| Update on club ownership from Trust 14:58 - Jul 25 with 9242 views | James1980 |
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| Update on club ownership from Trust on 22:04 - Jul 25 with 2497 views | James1980 |
| Update on club ownership from Trust on 21:59 - Jul 25 by TomRAFC |
Both Kilpatrick and the Americans would not have agreed to sell if they didn't want to. Sadly, they don't seem interested in alternative offers. Our best bet may well be to sink this deal first. With their current agreements with Curran and Rose dead in the water, they may be interested in selling to someone the fan base would be happier with. |
Didn't A Kilpatrick inherit his shares? | |
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| Update on club ownership from Trust on 22:08 - Jul 25 with 2470 views | _Windydale |
| Update on club ownership from Trust on 21:59 - Jul 25 by TomRAFC |
Both Kilpatrick and the Americans would not have agreed to sell if they didn't want to. Sadly, they don't seem interested in alternative offers. Our best bet may well be to sink this deal first. With their current agreements with Curran and Rose dead in the water, they may be interested in selling to someone the fan base would be happier with. |
Is Andrew Kilpatrick related to David Kilpatrick the overcoat man? If so it's ironic that Andrew has washed his hands of our club and selling his shares to sharks. I know it's dramatizing it, but maybe he fell out with him and this is a stubborn angry reply. | | | |
| Update on club ownership from Trust on 22:11 - Jul 25 with 2452 views | tony_roch975 |
| Update on club ownership from Trust on 21:59 - Jul 25 by TomRAFC |
Both Kilpatrick and the Americans would not have agreed to sell if they didn't want to. Sadly, they don't seem interested in alternative offers. Our best bet may well be to sink this deal first. With their current agreements with Curran and Rose dead in the water, they may be interested in selling to someone the fan base would be happier with. |
Agree - hope those who were so convinced about Altman's support for the Trust at the EGM now realise the Americans were as untrustworthy and self-interested as Curran & Rose | |
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| Update on club ownership from Trust on 22:17 - Jul 25 with 2428 views | boromat |
| Update on club ownership from Trust on 22:08 - Jul 25 by _Windydale |
Is Andrew Kilpatrick related to David Kilpatrick the overcoat man? If so it's ironic that Andrew has washed his hands of our club and selling his shares to sharks. I know it's dramatizing it, but maybe he fell out with him and this is a stubborn angry reply. |
Inherited them from Brian Kilpatrick I believe. | |
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| Update on club ownership from Trust on 22:21 - Jul 25 with 2408 views | TVOS1907 |
| Update on club ownership from Trust on 22:08 - Jul 25 by _Windydale |
Is Andrew Kilpatrick related to David Kilpatrick the overcoat man? If so it's ironic that Andrew has washed his hands of our club and selling his shares to sharks. I know it's dramatizing it, but maybe he fell out with him and this is a stubborn angry reply. |
They aren't related. |  |
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| Update on club ownership from Trust on 22:23 - Jul 25 with 2392 views | TVOS1907 |
| Update on club ownership from Trust on 22:17 - Jul 25 by boromat |
Inherited them from Brian Kilpatrick I believe. |
Yes, Andrew is Brian's son. | |
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| Update on club ownership from Trust on 22:30 - Jul 25 with 2329 views | _Windydale |
| Update on club ownership from Trust on 22:21 - Jul 25 by TVOS1907 |
They aren't related. |
Confusing with so many Kilpatrick's.
Looking online it was Brian Kilpatrick a lifelong supporter and Director, I didn't know. In my opinion, It's still a poor do if your family had the club at heart. But decide to sell up to vultures and abandon the club. | | | |
| Update on club ownership from Trust on 22:41 - Jul 25 with 2304 views | D_Alien |
| Update on club ownership from Trust on 22:30 - Jul 25 by _Windydale |
Confusing with so many Kilpatrick's.
Looking online it was Brian Kilpatrick a lifelong supporter and Director, I didn't know. In my opinion, It's still a poor do if your family had the club at heart. But decide to sell up to vultures and abandon the club. |
I'm sure i've read a statement from A. Kilpatrick during his time as Chairman that he cherished the shares he'd inherited and would never see them fall into the wrong hands
What may have changed is his experience as Chairman, but that was no-one's fault but his own. He allowed DB free reign to wreak havoc with our club and he deserved the opprobrium he got then, and he's getting now
If there's anyone with any connection to Andrew reading this thread, let him know -there's a very simple way to redeem yourself and preserve the Kilpatrick (the southern ones) legacy
Withdraw your shares from sale to the bandits. If you wish to sell, contact the current board and start a proper process to preserve the integrity of the club you claimed to love
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| Update on club ownership from Trust on 22:43 - Jul 25 with 2288 views | James1980 |
| Update on club ownership from Trust on 22:41 - Jul 25 by D_Alien |
I'm sure i've read a statement from A. Kilpatrick during his time as Chairman that he cherished the shares he'd inherited and would never see them fall into the wrong hands
What may have changed is his experience as Chairman, but that was no-one's fault but his own. He allowed DB free reign to wreak havoc with our club and he deserved the opprobrium he got then, and he's getting now
If there's anyone with any connection to Andrew reading this thread, let him know -there's a very simple way to redeem yourself and preserve the Kilpatrick (the southern ones) legacy
Withdraw your shares from sale to the bandits. If you wish to sell, contact the current board and start a proper process to preserve the integrity of the club you claimed to love
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Has he been duped by the superficial charm of a psychopath? | |
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| Update on club ownership from Trust on 22:44 - Jul 25 with 2281 views | D_Alien |
| Update on club ownership from Trust on 22:43 - Jul 25 by James1980 |
Has he been duped by the superficial charm of a psychopath? |
No
Or at least, no longer
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| Update on club ownership from Trust on 22:46 - Jul 25 with 2260 views | 1907 |
| Update on club ownership from Trust on 21:59 - Jul 25 by TomRAFC |
Both Kilpatrick and the Americans would not have agreed to sell if they didn't want to. Sadly, they don't seem interested in alternative offers. Our best bet may well be to sink this deal first. With their current agreements with Curran and Rose dead in the water, they may be interested in selling to someone the fan base would be happier with. |
Are we absolutely certain of that or are we just assuming? Do we know what price has been “agreed”? Can we better the value of the deal to dissuade him from selling? You’re talking about 110,000 shares or so here. If Kilpatrick can be turned then it’s literally game over. | | | |
| Update on club ownership from Trust on 22:53 - Jul 25 with 2228 views | James1980 |
| Update on club ownership from Trust on 22:46 - Jul 25 by 1907 |
Are we absolutely certain of that or are we just assuming? Do we know what price has been “agreed”? Can we better the value of the deal to dissuade him from selling? You’re talking about 110,000 shares or so here. If Kilpatrick can be turned then it’s literally game over. |
Open letter? | |
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| Update on club ownership from Trust on 23:00 - Jul 25 with 2204 views | D_Alien |
| Update on club ownership from Trust on 22:53 - Jul 25 by James1980 |
Open letter? |
No!!!!!!
FFS can we lose the special pleading mentality?
It may have had its place but i firmly believe the decisions that've been taken are based on a range of factors, not down to supplications
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| Update on club ownership from Trust on 23:03 - Jul 25 with 2180 views | _Windydale |
| Update on club ownership from Trust on 23:00 - Jul 25 by D_Alien |
No!!!!!!
FFS can we lose the special pleading mentality?
It may have had its place but i firmly believe the decisions that've been taken are based on a range of factors, not down to supplications
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Maybe James can give it one last try. Write a poignant song or something. | | | |
| Update on club ownership from Trust on 23:05 - Jul 25 with 2163 views | D_Alien |
| Update on club ownership from Trust on 23:03 - Jul 25 by _Windydale |
Maybe James can give it one last try. Write a poignant song or something. |
If he knows how to write for a merchant banker... | |
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| Update on club ownership from Trust on 23:25 - Jul 25 with 2088 views | Newbury_Dale |
Have the trust had any dialogue with Kilpatrick lately ? Is he willing to consider offers for his shares from other, non-hostile parties ? | | | |
| Update on club ownership from Trust on 23:27 - Jul 25 with 2086 views | James1980 |
| Update on club ownership from Trust on 23:05 - Jul 25 by D_Alien |
If he knows how to write for a merchant banker... |
Probably take a full opera. | |
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| Update on club ownership from Trust on 23:30 - Jul 25 with 2067 views | D_Alien |
| Update on club ownership from Trust on 23:27 - Jul 25 by James1980 |
Probably take a full opera. |
Actually, that's a decent response James
Get on with the libretto | |
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| Update on club ownership from Trust on 23:35 - Jul 25 with 2043 views | _Windydale |
| Update on club ownership from Trust on 23:25 - Jul 25 by Newbury_Dale |
Have the trust had any dialogue with Kilpatrick lately ? Is he willing to consider offers for his shares from other, non-hostile parties ? |
Probably too busy to bother with little old Rochdale. I noticed he's now a Director for a London shipping company as of Jan 2021 who owns a cargo ship. Not the club is unimportant, just his lofty priorities are elsewhere. | | | |
| Update on club ownership from Trust on 23:48 - Jul 25 with 2014 views | Brierls |
| Update on club ownership from Trust on 22:53 - Jul 25 by James1980 |
Open letter? |
Here’s an open letter to Andrew Kilpatrick - https://www.rochdaleafc.co.uk/news/2014/may/club-statement-mr-brian-kilpatrick/
If his late father’s love and dedication to this football club isn’t enough to stop him selling to Curran and Rose, who only have their own interests at heart, then an open letter from fans isn’t going to matter one bit.
It may be that he was duped into believing Curran & Rose had the means to legitimately invest and grow the club. It may be the personal reasons for him stepping down as chairman were used against him. Who knows, but they are ready made excuses. One thing is for sure, his shares should be sold to those with Dale blood running through their veins. It’s not too late for him to make that happen. |  | | |
| Update on club ownership from Trust on 00:01 - Jul 26 with 1980 views | 49thseason |
The club could buy back some of the shares and put them back in the treasury. To be honest, the easiest buy- back would be Graham Rawlinsons shares. His main crime was failure to know was going on, I dont think there was really any premeditation about selling them until he was not re-elected. However, his actions since have poisoned the well of goodwill to the extent that I think he just wants to sell his shares to someone, anyone! He will never be welcome back at the COA if he sells to Curran, but if he offered his sharesto the Trust or even the club to buy back he would at least not be tarred with the same brush as Bottomley. |  | | |
| Update on club ownership from Trust on 09:42 - Jul 26 with 1626 views | mikehunt |
It’s the “at any price” bit that slightly concerns me. We all have our price. If they needed to mop up a controlling amount,for £100 per share say, I’m not sure if many shareholders could afford to ignore such an offer.
Let’s hope their pockets are not so deep.
I feel so sorry for the Trust and Board. To have to deal with this sh1t and run the club at the same time must be an absolute nightmare. |  |
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