NFR: History of the Spotland area 10:52 - May 30 with 10104 views | Sheffdale | One of my projects at the moment is trying to add context to my family history. I was brought up in the Spotland area and both grandparents were local. My ggf (William Robert Ashworth) was in the early 20th century the owner of Foot Mill, described as a mill beside the first bend of the river north of Spotland Bridge. I can see it on an 1850 map. As it's going to be some while before I am over that way I wonder if anyone walks around there? I suspect it's part of the Healey Dell Nature Reserve. If you do could you look around for any evidence of the mill being there and let me know. I expect many of us have ancestors in the Spotland area so who knows this could be a close season thread! My other ggf (James Goodwin) was a gardener for George Kemp, who became the first Lord Rochdale, so I have been in touch with the current Lord Rochdale and we are now on first name terms don't you know! | | | | |
NFR: History of the Spotland area on 09:44 - Jun 1 with 1760 views | Sheffdale |
NFR: History of the Spotland area on 23:18 - May 30 by D_Dale | It could be that great-grandfather Ashworth's mill was part of the short-lived post-WW1 boom in the cotton trade and was then caught in the 1920s slump. The Manchester Guardian (8 March 1924, p.4) carries an advert: 'For sale by private treaty, freehold shed and three-storey mill, a portion built 1920 ... [details of machinery and other items for sale]. Also freehold farm, about 5 acres, and six cottages, situate at Spod Road, Spotland, Rochdale. But on 3 May 1924, p. 20, the MG's classified ads included: "Re W. R. Ashworth (in voluntary liquidation), Foot Mill, Spotland, Rochdale. For sale in one lot [description of items for sale] ... by auction on Tuesday May 13, 1924 at the Thatched House Hotel, Newmarket Place, Manchester." However, the following month's MG (25 April 1925, p.4) advertised "Freehold shed and three-storey mill (portion built 1920) known as Foot Mill, Spotland ... offers are invited for sale by private treaty: a reasonable price will be accepted to close receivership". Possibly the "Rochdale Observer" carried more details, but searching through it would be a needle-in-haystack situation. The MG is online via Manchester city library, though can be a bit of a trial to use. |
Very interesting. I will send you a PM so that I can get a bit of info on your sources. | | | |
NFR: History of the Spotland area on 10:18 - Jun 1 with 1738 views | mingthemerciless |
NFR: History of the Spotland area on 09:44 - Jun 1 by Sheffdale | Very interesting. I will send you a PM so that I can get a bit of info on your sources. |
Yes that is interesting. If you look on the 1908 map diagonally on the other side of the little bridge over the Spodden there is a little row of six cottages named as " Foot Cottages " on the map. Possibly they could have belonged to the mill and may have been built to house essential workers. As far as I could see they are allotments now and I couldn't see any signs of the old cottages when I was down there yesterday. [Post edited 1 Jun 2020 10:21]
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NFR: History of the Spotland area on 11:37 - Jun 1 with 1704 views | mingthemerciless | D Alien, I tried responding to your PM but for some reason the message won't go. How does next Thursday at 2-00 pm at the place you mentioned in your message sound ? | | | |
NFR: History of the Spotland area on 11:49 - Jun 1 with 1685 views | D_Alien |
NFR: History of the Spotland area on 11:37 - Jun 1 by mingthemerciless | D Alien, I tried responding to your PM but for some reason the message won't go. How does next Thursday at 2-00 pm at the place you mentioned in your message sound ? |
I sent another PM seeking clarification about what "next" Thursday means - some people mean it as "this coming Thursday" (i.e. this week) and some people mean "next" as a week on Thursday!! So, that's Thursday 4th, or Thursday 11th, either is fine at 2pm | |
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NFR: History of the Spotland area on 12:19 - Jun 1 with 1664 views | DaleiLama | AP: Breaking news - 2 Rochdale men detained in well-known local "dogging" area. During an undercover operation in the Spotland Bridge area, GM police have detained 2 local men in separate incidents. The first man, described as having a long drooping moustache and a bald pate was apprehended wearing an outlandish suit, and was heard to be rambling about it “being around here somewhere” whilst rustling in the undergrowth and repeatedly uttering the name Dale Arden. The apprehending officer believed the second reference to be in relation to the RAFC scarf around his neck but this link remains unconfirmed at present. When questioned, the man gave his name as Ming the Merciless of no fixed abode, since the planet Mongo could not be found on any current police database. Questioning of the male is on-going. The second large-eyed man with spindly fingers was found observing a discontinued works for a prolonged period of time in a suspicious manner, interfering with a chain-link steel fence and taking unauthorised photographs of the premises, despite security warnings that this could be a patrolled area, probably. When questioned further, the male gave his name as The Alien — or something sounding quite like that, and said I come from a galaxy far, far away. No chocolate could be found on his person. It is understood that at this stage, the images on the suspect’s phone are currently being forensically examined in a specialist facility in Sheffield and no further comment will be made until the findings of this examination become available. It is understood from digital communications, that the two men know of each other and further links are also being investigated. If any member of the public has information relating to these incidents, please, keep them to yourselves until any semblance of lockdown is over. The police are very busy in a Dominic Cummings surveillance operation. [Post edited 1 Jun 2020 12:38]
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NFR: History of the Spotland area on 12:23 - Jun 1 with 1653 views | TVOS1907 |
NFR: History of the Spotland area on 11:49 - Jun 1 by D_Alien | I sent another PM seeking clarification about what "next" Thursday means - some people mean it as "this coming Thursday" (i.e. this week) and some people mean "next" as a week on Thursday!! So, that's Thursday 4th, or Thursday 11th, either is fine at 2pm |
Can anyone come along? | |
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NFR: History of the Spotland area on 12:44 - Jun 1 with 1634 views | D_Alien |
NFR: History of the Spotland area on 12:23 - Jun 1 by TVOS1907 | Can anyone come along? |
Don't see why not, as long as they understand the concept of social distancing! | |
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NFR: History of the Spotland area on 12:47 - Jun 1 with 1629 views | TVOS1907 |
NFR: History of the Spotland area on 12:44 - Jun 1 by D_Alien | Don't see why not, as long as they understand the concept of social distancing! |
Well my eyesight needs testing, so if it's good for the goose... | |
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NFR: History of the Spotland area on 12:53 - Jun 1 with 1618 views | D_Alien |
NFR: History of the Spotland area on 12:47 - Jun 1 by TVOS1907 | Well my eyesight needs testing, so if it's good for the goose... |
Are you familiar with the entrance to the TBA site, off Rooley Moor Road? We'll need to limit this expedition to 6! | |
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NFR: History of the Spotland area on 12:55 - Jun 1 with 1615 views | TVOS1907 |
NFR: History of the Spotland area on 12:53 - Jun 1 by D_Alien | Are you familiar with the entrance to the TBA site, off Rooley Moor Road? We'll need to limit this expedition to 6! |
No, it's not an area I frequent. | |
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NFR: History of the Spotland area on 16:21 - Jun 1 with 1552 views | davidab2202 | Just to extend the search ,seem to recollect being told that my Grandfather worked at "Heaps" which I assume was somewhere in the same area.Anyone anY Thoughts on were that fits into this picture if at all.Thanks in advance | | | |
NFR: History of the Spotland area on 17:12 - Jun 1 with 1539 views | mingthemerciless |
NFR: History of the Spotland area on 12:44 - Jun 1 by D_Alien | Don't see why not, as long as they understand the concept of social distancing! |
It's ok by me, as D Alien says we'll have to observe social distancing. I think we should keep politics off the agenda though. I'll be parking the Rolls-Royce up by " The Royds ". Meet up at the old TBA works lodge just down the steps from " The Royds ". 2.00 pm Thursday. I'll be passing the hat around at the end of the guided tour, anybody gets asbestosis , don't blame me. | | | |
NFR: History of the Spotland area on 17:17 - Jun 1 with 1534 views | Sheffdale |
NFR: History of the Spotland area on 17:12 - Jun 1 by mingthemerciless | It's ok by me, as D Alien says we'll have to observe social distancing. I think we should keep politics off the agenda though. I'll be parking the Rolls-Royce up by " The Royds ". Meet up at the old TBA works lodge just down the steps from " The Royds ". 2.00 pm Thursday. I'll be passing the hat around at the end of the guided tour, anybody gets asbestosis , don't blame me. |
Heaven knows what I've started here! But a sincere thanks and happy hunting. | | | |
NFR: History of the Spotland area on 19:48 - Jun 1 with 1467 views | ncfc_chalky | What a great thread this is with RAFC camaraderie shining through and joining together in local history and enjoyable to read as well Top lads | |
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NFR: History of the Spotland area on 20:49 - Jun 1 with 1434 views | judd |
NFR: History of the Spotland area on 19:48 - Jun 1 by ncfc_chalky | What a great thread this is with RAFC camaraderie shining through and joining together in local history and enjoyable to read as well Top lads |
Was just thinking the same thing. Belting read. Can't wait for the wedding. | |
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NFR: History of the Spotland area on 21:00 - Jun 1 with 1428 views | kel | Get a few more involved and some weirdos on here will start accusing you of being a clique. | | | |
NFR: History of the Spotland area on 21:06 - Jun 1 with 1414 views | mingthemerciless |
NFR: History of the Spotland area on 21:00 - Jun 1 by kel | Get a few more involved and some weirdos on here will start accusing you of being a clique. |
It's a good job the Cemie's shut then. | | | |
NFR: History of the Spotland area on 21:07 - Jun 1 with 1410 views | kel |
NFR: History of the Spotland area on 21:06 - Jun 1 by mingthemerciless | It's a good job the Cemie's shut then. |
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NFR: History of the Spotland area on 21:15 - Jun 1 with 1396 views | ncfc_chalky |
NFR: History of the Spotland area on 21:00 - Jun 1 by kel | Get a few more involved and some weirdos on here will start accusing you of being a clique. |
Now don't be like that kel,it's a great thread and I wish that there was more like it | |
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NFR: History of the Spotland area on 21:16 - Jun 1 with 1393 views | kel |
NFR: History of the Spotland area on 21:15 - Jun 1 by ncfc_chalky | Now don't be like that kel,it's a great thread and I wish that there was more like it |
Aye, I know. Don’t want to derail it so I’ll wind my neck in. Now fook off, Chalky. [Post edited 1 Jun 2020 21:17]
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NFR: History of the Spotland area on 22:13 - Jun 1 with 1338 views | judd |
NFR: History of the Spotland area on 21:15 - Jun 1 by ncfc_chalky | Now don't be like that kel,it's a great thread and I wish that there was more like it |
Get him told, chalky lad. By the way, they weren't cotton mills. They were brick. | |
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NFR: History of the Spotland area on 22:34 - Jun 1 with 1310 views | D_Alien |
NFR: History of the Spotland area on 12:19 - Jun 1 by DaleiLama | AP: Breaking news - 2 Rochdale men detained in well-known local "dogging" area. During an undercover operation in the Spotland Bridge area, GM police have detained 2 local men in separate incidents. The first man, described as having a long drooping moustache and a bald pate was apprehended wearing an outlandish suit, and was heard to be rambling about it “being around here somewhere” whilst rustling in the undergrowth and repeatedly uttering the name Dale Arden. The apprehending officer believed the second reference to be in relation to the RAFC scarf around his neck but this link remains unconfirmed at present. When questioned, the man gave his name as Ming the Merciless of no fixed abode, since the planet Mongo could not be found on any current police database. Questioning of the male is on-going. The second large-eyed man with spindly fingers was found observing a discontinued works for a prolonged period of time in a suspicious manner, interfering with a chain-link steel fence and taking unauthorised photographs of the premises, despite security warnings that this could be a patrolled area, probably. When questioned further, the male gave his name as The Alien — or something sounding quite like that, and said I come from a galaxy far, far away. No chocolate could be found on his person. It is understood that at this stage, the images on the suspect’s phone are currently being forensically examined in a specialist facility in Sheffield and no further comment will be made until the findings of this examination become available. It is understood from digital communications, that the two men know of each other and further links are also being investigated. If any member of the public has information relating to these incidents, please, keep them to yourselves until any semblance of lockdown is over. The police are very busy in a Dominic Cummings surveillance operation. [Post edited 1 Jun 2020 12:38]
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Missed this earlier! I've since been advised by my lawyer to respond to all questioning with "No comment", but just in case, the petition that i know you'll all want to sign should be headed: Free the Foot Mill Two | |
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NFR: History of the Spotland area on 22:40 - Jun 1 with 1300 views | judd |
NFR: History of the Spotland area on 22:34 - Jun 1 by D_Alien | Missed this earlier! I've since been advised by my lawyer to respond to all questioning with "No comment", but just in case, the petition that i know you'll all want to sign should be headed: Free the Foot Mill Two |
You've been locked up, haven't you? | |
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NFR: History of the Spotland area on 22:41 - Jun 1 with 1296 views | D_Alien |
NFR: History of the Spotland area on 22:40 - Jun 1 by judd | You've been locked up, haven't you? |
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NFR: History of the Spotland area on 22:43 - Jun 1 with 1292 views | Molly |
NFR: History of the Spotland area on 16:21 - Jun 1 by davidab2202 | Just to extend the search ,seem to recollect being told that my Grandfather worked at "Heaps" which I assume was somewhere in the same area.Anyone anY Thoughts on were that fits into this picture if at all.Thanks in advance |
"Heap" or Samuel Heaps Ltd was a dyeworks situated at the bottom end of Rooley Moor Road where it joins Ings Lane. It was a part of Courtaulds and was certainly still operating in the early 1970s. It was located in a three storey building which around 2000 was being used as a fitness/health club. | | | |
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