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Seatbelt cameras 16:41 - Dec 19 with 5004 viewsplasmahoop

Apologies for being off topic, but I got called into the office at work today, as whilst driving a company vehicle I was spotted driving without a seatbelt. Apparently I was driving said vehicle that day, and I usually wear one, but I concede I may not have been wearing it. So I filled in the form and took my ticking off. But it occurs to me now, do they not need provide evidence for this? Have they got some ultra good cameras now? When I was called in the manager said I'm sure you know what this is about, but I genuinely didn't. It's a hundred quid, not the end of the world, learn your lesson. But isn't the burden of proof on them? Thanks, and sorry for rambling on
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Seatbelt cameras on 17:07 - Dec 19 with 4923 viewsstowmarketrange

I wear mine 99% of the time in my truck and always in the car.You can’t get away with anything these days.
Although driving at night like I do,it would be a good camera to see in my cab at night.There are too many cameras everywhere these days,and it’s getting harder to watch for them as well as the antics of some other road users.
I’m near the end of my days on the road as I just can’t see much point in doing it any longer.I feel sorry for anyone just starting out life as a so called professional driver.Although we are only treated like professionals when something goes wrong.The rest of the time we’re treated worse than sh@t.
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Seatbelt cameras on 17:42 - Dec 19 with 4868 viewsloftboy

I can beat that, our vans are now tracked, they know our speeds, how hard we brake, how fast we corner. Some of our drivers have been called in because they are continually speeding, I got called in yesterday to let me know that on one yes one occasion I was doing 22.4 for longer than 30 seconds in a 20 zone, probably forgot to set my limiter briefly. Bet the old bill wouldn’t have pulled me for that.

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Seatbelt cameras on 17:45 - Dec 19 with 4865 viewsplasmahoop

Seatbelt cameras on 17:07 - Dec 19 by stowmarketrange

I wear mine 99% of the time in my truck and always in the car.You can’t get away with anything these days.
Although driving at night like I do,it would be a good camera to see in my cab at night.There are too many cameras everywhere these days,and it’s getting harder to watch for them as well as the antics of some other road users.
I’m near the end of my days on the road as I just can’t see much point in doing it any longer.I feel sorry for anyone just starting out life as a so called professional driver.Although we are only treated like professionals when something goes wrong.The rest of the time we’re treated worse than sh@t.
Happy Christmas all.


Thanks for your reply. You are probably right, you can't get away with anything these days. I do concur though, I drive a dustcart, although on the day in question I was driving a smaller vehicle. Loads of people seem to get suspended every time they have a minor accident, which when you consider the how long you are out there and how much manoeuvreing you do seems a bit harsh. Would like to do something else, but not sure what!
I just wish I'd questioned the evidence a it more before filling in the form, but it was after a long day
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Seatbelt cameras on 17:59 - Dec 19 with 4836 viewsBoston

Seatbelt cameras on 17:45 - Dec 19 by plasmahoop

Thanks for your reply. You are probably right, you can't get away with anything these days. I do concur though, I drive a dustcart, although on the day in question I was driving a smaller vehicle. Loads of people seem to get suspended every time they have a minor accident, which when you consider the how long you are out there and how much manoeuvreing you do seems a bit harsh. Would like to do something else, but not sure what!
I just wish I'd questioned the evidence a it more before filling in the form, but it was after a long day


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Seatbelt cameras on 18:18 - Dec 19 with 4794 viewsHayesender

I'm a postie and even we're tracked now. If I stop for longer than five minutes it shows up as a big yellow blob on my route map.

I have a few older people on my round who like to have a chat, but I'm finding myself having to make my apologies now and cut the conversation short.

They probably think I'm a right rude fecker

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Seatbelt cameras on 18:33 - Dec 19 with 4776 views18StoneOfHoop

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Seatbelt cameras on 18:47 - Dec 19 with 4738 viewsPunteR

The company i work for at the moment have whats called a cost tracker. Basically GPS that i have to sign in and out when a turn up to site and go home again. Its just a tracking device. Hate it. Plus where im working at the moment has bad signal so i can never sign in properly which makes me look like im getting to site later than i am. Cue accounts questioning my invoice.

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Seatbelt cameras on 19:53 - Dec 19 with 4662 viewsenfieldargh

Seatbelt cameras on 18:18 - Dec 19 by Hayesender

I'm a postie and even we're tracked now. If I stop for longer than five minutes it shows up as a big yellow blob on my route map.

I have a few older people on my round who like to have a chat, but I'm finding myself having to make my apologies now and cut the conversation short.

They probably think I'm a right rude fecker


I have a RING door bell camera/live video chat thingy.

Our postie refused to use it as he doesnt want to be on camera.

I've told him hes on camera the moment he steps foot on my drive way and that he's on camera virtually his whole route.

He still wont ring the bell and knocks the knocker like a feeble child before legging it up my drive way.

Have called him back loads of times, taken this up woth him and he says if affects his civil rights

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Seatbelt cameras on 20:25 - Dec 19 with 4637 viewsLazyFan

Seatbelt cameras on 19:53 - Dec 19 by enfieldargh

I have a RING door bell camera/live video chat thingy.

Our postie refused to use it as he doesnt want to be on camera.

I've told him hes on camera the moment he steps foot on my drive way and that he's on camera virtually his whole route.

He still wont ring the bell and knocks the knocker like a feeble child before legging it up my drive way.

Have called him back loads of times, taken this up woth him and he says if affects his civil rights


What will he do if you remove the knocker and put up a sign saying "Knocking Can Cause Criminal Damage"

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Seatbelt cameras on 20:46 - Dec 19 with 4561 viewsHayesender

Seatbelt cameras on 19:53 - Dec 19 by enfieldargh

I have a RING door bell camera/live video chat thingy.

Our postie refused to use it as he doesnt want to be on camera.

I've told him hes on camera the moment he steps foot on my drive way and that he's on camera virtually his whole route.

He still wont ring the bell and knocks the knocker like a feeble child before legging it up my drive way.

Have called him back loads of times, taken this up woth him and he says if affects his civil rights


Your postie sounds like a bit of a tit

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Seatbelt cameras on 22:39 - Dec 19 with 4392 viewsstowmarketrange

Seatbelt cameras on 17:42 - Dec 19 by loftboy

I can beat that, our vans are now tracked, they know our speeds, how hard we brake, how fast we corner. Some of our drivers have been called in because they are continually speeding, I got called in yesterday to let me know that on one yes one occasion I was doing 22.4 for longer than 30 seconds in a 20 zone, probably forgot to set my limiter briefly. Bet the old bill wouldn’t have pulled me for that.


We have trackers too and telematics boxes.But the difference is that if you’re a good boy or girl they pay you £10 a night for the pleasure.
It’s normally the harsh braking at quickly changing traffic lights that ruin it for most drivers.It takes a lot to stop 44t travelling at 30mph because the lights suddenly change to red 50 yards away from them.
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Seatbelt cameras on 12:51 - Dec 20 with 3825 viewsBenny_the_Ball

My father was a lorry driver and chauffer. He retired just as modern technology was tightening its grip on motoring. He would never do the job today as there's too much monitoring and, armed with databases, authorities just fine and ask questions later.

On one occasion he had an overnight stay in Suffolk. He parked his company car on a road which was signposted as pedestrian only between the hours of 9am and 4pm. The following morning he left the hotel at 8.15am to be greeted with a PCN. Worse still barriers had been lifted at both ends of the street, preventing him from leaving and making him late to pick up a client. At the end of the month his payslip was £120 light. When he confronted his boss he was told that the firm had received a fine in the post so it was automatically deducted from his wages. His boss refused to appeal so my father had to take it up with Suffolk police personally. They explained that he had been fined for parking in a street that is pedestrianised between the hours of 8 and 5. Fortunately he had taken some photographs at the scene so he submitted an appeal which was upheld. However Suffolk police attached a letter saying that it was a one-time gesture because although the road signs stated 9 to 4, the new hours were in force, the council just hadn't got around to changing the signs! As my father was now aware of these new hours he was expected to conform with them in future regardless of what the road signs state! As soon as my father received his £120 back he moved to another firm making his reasons for leaving very clear.

Anyway, moral of a long story is don't just accept it, appeal.
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Seatbelt cameras on 18:04 - Dec 20 with 3524 viewsplasmahoop

Seatbelt cameras on 12:51 - Dec 20 by Benny_the_Ball

My father was a lorry driver and chauffer. He retired just as modern technology was tightening its grip on motoring. He would never do the job today as there's too much monitoring and, armed with databases, authorities just fine and ask questions later.

On one occasion he had an overnight stay in Suffolk. He parked his company car on a road which was signposted as pedestrian only between the hours of 9am and 4pm. The following morning he left the hotel at 8.15am to be greeted with a PCN. Worse still barriers had been lifted at both ends of the street, preventing him from leaving and making him late to pick up a client. At the end of the month his payslip was £120 light. When he confronted his boss he was told that the firm had received a fine in the post so it was automatically deducted from his wages. His boss refused to appeal so my father had to take it up with Suffolk police personally. They explained that he had been fined for parking in a street that is pedestrianised between the hours of 8 and 5. Fortunately he had taken some photographs at the scene so he submitted an appeal which was upheld. However Suffolk police attached a letter saying that it was a one-time gesture because although the road signs stated 9 to 4, the new hours were in force, the council just hadn't got around to changing the signs! As my father was now aware of these new hours he was expected to conform with them in future regardless of what the road signs state! As soon as my father received his £120 back he moved to another firm making his reasons for leaving very clear.

Anyway, moral of a long story is don't just accept it, appeal.
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Seatbelt cameras on 21:01 - Dec 20 with 3418 viewsLimehouseR

Seatbelt cameras on 18:18 - Dec 19 by Hayesender

I'm a postie and even we're tracked now. If I stop for longer than five minutes it shows up as a big yellow blob on my route map.

I have a few older people on my round who like to have a chat, but I'm finding myself having to make my apologies now and cut the conversation short.

They probably think I'm a right rude fecker


Glad I left the Royal Mail when it got privatised. We had a fleet manager who would literally come out and spy on you doing your deliveries. I got told off once for not wearing a high vis jacket on top of my uniform when it was about 30 degrees and bright sunshine. But I think most similar jobs have similar working conditions these days. My mate is temproarily working in an Amazon warehouse and that is literally like a Big Brother Orwelian enviroment. His every move is monitored.
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Seatbelt cameras on 22:00 - Dec 20 with 3379 viewsBazzaInTheLoft

Join a fcking Union for fcks sake!
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Seatbelt cameras on 22:01 - Dec 20 with 3378 viewsBazzaInTheLoft

https://www.tuc.org.uk/research-analysis/reports/ill-be-watching-you
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Seatbelt cameras on 23:32 - Dec 20 with 3309 viewsloftboy

Seatbelt cameras on 22:00 - Dec 20 by BazzaInTheLoft

Join a fcking Union for fcks sake!


I am in the union, absolutely zero use where I work Baz, they give out written warnings like confetti, I had my union rep in on my last disciplinary and he made it ten times worse!!
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