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I don't use the public swimming baths and the gym in town. Shall we close them down then ?
Taxes are used for a vast amount of things, you'll gain from some, you'll lose out on others. The TV licence is someone dictating to you that you have to pay for a singular entity even if you don't use any of its services.
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Is Boris Johnson a coward? on 20:41 - Dec 9 with 1930 views
Is Boris Johnson a coward? on 20:26 - Dec 9 by BigDaveMyCock
There’s been no knee-jerk reaction. The blatant flaws in the argument have been noted, that’s all. You extol regulating the media when it comes to political debate. Boris Johnson, whose absence from political debates you seek to explain via the requirement for this regulation, would however never in a million years countenance such a thing. On the other hand, if it was Corbyn dodging interviews and wanting to regulate the media you’d be apoplectic. The argument’s been rightly called out for what it is. A diversionary tactic to avoid criticism of Johnson dodging scrutiny. Your claim of non partisan objectivity is ridiculous.
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I'd be apoplectic? Who says so - you?
It's the entire media scrum i'm posting about, irrespective of party loyalties (temporary or otherwise), and it's a shame you've failed to understand my initial post
Yes, it was specifically about BJ, but that's because you chose to make this thread about BJ. I would apply the points i've made to all politicians. Very few of them are cowards, and certainly none of them who take on leadership roles and all that involves; and it's debasing the political debate to make use of that media trope
Is Boris Johnson a coward? on 20:35 - Dec 9 by DaleFan7
Taxes are used for a vast amount of things, you'll gain from some, you'll lose out on others. The TV licence is someone dictating to you that you have to pay for a singular entity even if you don't use any of its services.
The principle is the same though. We're having to pay for services that we may or may not use personally but are generally acknowledged to be in the public good. It's what civilized societies do.
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Is Boris Johnson a coward? on 22:12 - Dec 9 with 1840 views
Is Boris Johnson a coward? on 19:22 - Dec 9 by todmordendale
The photo was in the lefty rag. Nothing to say it wasn’t a set up by some lefty Marxist activists intent on trying to get one over on the capitalistic greedy folk. Don’t trust anything that I’m seeing or hearing. Unless you actually see things and know things, then it is not possible to comment without prejudice, We see that the nation’s politics have stooped too far.
The story broke in the Yorkshire Post. On a, albeit brief, review of the newspaper I haven’t yet seen one mention of wanting to overthrow the capitalist mode of production.
Is Boris Johnson a coward? on 19:22 - Dec 9 by todmordendale
The photo was in the lefty rag. Nothing to say it wasn’t a set up by some lefty Marxist activists intent on trying to get one over on the capitalistic greedy folk. Don’t trust anything that I’m seeing or hearing. Unless you actually see things and know things, then it is not possible to comment without prejudice, We see that the nation’s politics have stooped too far.
Is Boris Johnson a coward? on 19:22 - Dec 9 by todmordendale
The photo was in the lefty rag. Nothing to say it wasn’t a set up by some lefty Marxist activists intent on trying to get one over on the capitalistic greedy folk. Don’t trust anything that I’m seeing or hearing. Unless you actually see things and know things, then it is not possible to comment without prejudice, We see that the nation’s politics have stooped too far.
But not in the Tory supporting, Nazi supporting Mail eh?
Is Boris Johnson a coward? on 14:19 - Dec 6 by SuddenLad
Pro-Tory... ?? 😂😂 I was relaying what was said yesterday on TV, that Boris is very likely to meet Neill, in the next week. How is that spin ? How is it construed as pro-Tory ?
so SL, has that date been fixed yet or was it always Tory spin, was there never any intention that Boris would honour the agreement - Boris & honour go together like Calvin and scoring!
Is Boris Johnson a coward? on 10:15 - Dec 10 by tony_roch975
so SL, has that date been fixed yet or was it always Tory spin, was there never any intention that Boris would honour the agreement - Boris & honour go together like Calvin and scoring!
I see...Like Tony Lloyd and loyalty to Rochdale?
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Is Boris Johnson a coward? on 11:06 - Dec 10 with 1589 views
Is Boris Johnson a coward? on 10:54 - Dec 10 by dawlishdale
I see...Like Tony Lloyd and loyalty to Rochdale?
Do we assume you think Lloyd is disloyal to Rochdale because he didn't support the May/Johnson Leave deal in Parliament whilst the majority of Rochdale people who voted in the referendum were in favour of Leave? That's where a bit of history is insightful - as Edmund Burke (feted as the first conservative) told his voters in Bristol in 1774: “Your representative owes you, not his industry only, but his judgment; and he betrays, instead of serving, you if he sacrifices it to your opinion." That's the basis of our Representative Democracy (a representative not a delegate) - the one Leave voters want to take back control!
Is Boris Johnson a coward? on 11:11 - Dec 10 by tony_roch975
Do we assume you think Lloyd is disloyal to Rochdale because he didn't support the May/Johnson Leave deal in Parliament whilst the majority of Rochdale people who voted in the referendum were in favour of Leave? That's where a bit of history is insightful - as Edmund Burke (feted as the first conservative) told his voters in Bristol in 1774: “Your representative owes you, not his industry only, but his judgment; and he betrays, instead of serving, you if he sacrifices it to your opinion." That's the basis of our Representative Democracy (a representative not a delegate) - the one Leave voters want to take back control!
Burke might have added "And you have the option of getting rid if you so choose"
Is Boris Johnson a coward? on 22:12 - Dec 9 by Ancoats_Blue
None of them are in the government or responsible for Leeds General’s underfunding?
According to their accounts, the Leeds Trust funding increased by £18m from 2018 to 2018. What evidence of "underfunding "do you have and how much funding do you think they need?
Indeed there isnt a single year in the last 25 where NHS funding has not increased. Perhaps if Labour hadnt allowed Health Trusts to borrowed money through scandalously expensive PFI schemes there wouldn't be these allegations of underfunding. But then there wouldnt be scare stories for Labour to frighten people with either. Leeds is currently paying £33m a year of interest on a PFI deal which lasts 30 years and will ultimately cost over £1Bn. The cost of the buildings procured by this PFI deal was £237m. So the interest payments will continue for 23 years after the buildings have been paid for and will cost £763m more than the cost of the buildings..
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Is Boris Johnson a coward? on 13:27 - Dec 10 with 1481 views
What the country needs is the rise of a centrist party. You're not going to remove the Conservatives with a hard left party. It doesn't appeal to enough people.
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Is Boris Johnson a coward? on 14:07 - Dec 10 with 1452 views
Is Boris Johnson a coward? on 13:13 - Dec 10 by 49thseason
According to their accounts, the Leeds Trust funding increased by £18m from 2018 to 2018. What evidence of "underfunding "do you have and how much funding do you think they need?
Indeed there isnt a single year in the last 25 where NHS funding has not increased. Perhaps if Labour hadnt allowed Health Trusts to borrowed money through scandalously expensive PFI schemes there wouldn't be these allegations of underfunding. But then there wouldnt be scare stories for Labour to frighten people with either. Leeds is currently paying £33m a year of interest on a PFI deal which lasts 30 years and will ultimately cost over £1Bn. The cost of the buildings procured by this PFI deal was £237m. So the interest payments will continue for 23 years after the buildings have been paid for and will cost £763m more than the cost of the buildings..
Whilst agreeing about PFI, introduced by Major and accelerated under Blair the funding of the NHS in real terms after inflation has fallen. Depending on which figures you use to compare, there are also between 8000and 17000 Fewer beds available since 2010.
Is Boris Johnson a coward? on 13:13 - Dec 10 by 49thseason
According to their accounts, the Leeds Trust funding increased by £18m from 2018 to 2018. What evidence of "underfunding "do you have and how much funding do you think they need?
Indeed there isnt a single year in the last 25 where NHS funding has not increased. Perhaps if Labour hadnt allowed Health Trusts to borrowed money through scandalously expensive PFI schemes there wouldn't be these allegations of underfunding. But then there wouldnt be scare stories for Labour to frighten people with either. Leeds is currently paying £33m a year of interest on a PFI deal which lasts 30 years and will ultimately cost over £1Bn. The cost of the buildings procured by this PFI deal was £237m. So the interest payments will continue for 23 years after the buildings have been paid for and will cost £763m more than the cost of the buildings..
Cutting and pasting from an unspecified source, well that settles it then doesn’t it?
I suppose you’ve fallen for the ‘I know someone who works in the hospital and it was staged’ fake news story doing the rounds on social media?
Is Boris Johnson a coward? on 13:27 - Dec 10 by DaleFan7
What the country needs is the rise of a centrist party. You're not going to remove the Conservatives with a hard left party. It doesn't appeal to enough people.
Labours policies aren’t hard left, they are centrist anywhere else in Europe !, they seem left to Mail readers
Is Boris Johnson a coward? on 13:27 - Dec 10 by DaleFan7
What the country needs is the rise of a centrist party. You're not going to remove the Conservatives with a hard left party. It doesn't appeal to enough people.
Is Boris Johnson a coward? on 14:08 - Dec 10 by BigDaveMyCock
Cutting and pasting from an unspecified source, well that settles it then doesn’t it?
I suppose you’ve fallen for the ‘I know someone who works in the hospital and it was staged’ fake news story doing the rounds on social media?
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The figures are available for anyone to find as they are all in the public domain. Since you dont seem to have any other comeback than to claim they have been cut and pasted from an unknown source I must assume you are too dim to do your own research or you know the figures are accurate but cant bring yourself to admit that they are and that they destroy any semblance of economic competence on the part of the Labour party. I'll make it easy for you, follow this link and then click on page 4 of the spreadsheet that you can download and you will find that Rochdale's streetlighting scheme had a capital cost of £31m but will actually cost us £112m . I assume you know how a spreadsheet works? Or are they rather too revealing for you? https://www.theguardian.com/news/datablog/2012/jul/05/pfi-contracts-list
And whilst we are on the subject of the NHS perhaps you would like to explain why Health Secretary Andy Burnham refused over 80 requests for an enquiry into how 1200 people died unnecessarily in North Staffs Hospital?
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Is Boris Johnson a coward? on 15:02 - Dec 10 with 1386 views
She's saying that her account was hacked to send a fabricated post about her working at the hospital and the image being faked. It wasn't her account that tweeted the original image.
Tangled up in blue.
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Is Boris Johnson a coward? on 15:18 - Dec 10 with 1360 views
Is Boris Johnson a coward? on 14:08 - Dec 10 by rochdaleriddler
Labours policies aren’t hard left, they are centrist anywhere else in Europe !, they seem left to Mail readers
Not sure nationalization of private enterprises is a centrist policy anywhere in the world...
Punitive taxation for the wealthy is also more of a hard left policy than centrist. Oh and state subsidization of things such as broadband are far more left wing than others across Europe.
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Is Boris Johnson a coward? on 15:25 - Dec 10 with 1351 views
49TH, read it properly. It confirms that the story claiming the photograph was staged was a fake. Not the story was a fake. Bless, you really thought you stumbled on to something there didn’t you? Go back to cutting and pasting random stuff and leave the real debate to the grown ups eh?
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