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Owen Jones gets filled in on 22:12 - Aug 18 by londonlisa2001
It doesn’t mean there isn’t no public evidence does it. He said today that he has evidence which he can’t make public.
Well, yes, because if it can't be made public at this point in time for very valid reasons, ie avoiding prejudicing any court case, then it's not public evidence now.
Whoever attacked him for whatever reason needed to be investigated and processed as appropriate, same as for any other person being attacked.
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Owen Jones gets filled in on 22:19 - Aug 18 with 1730 views
Owen Jones gets filled in on 22:14 - Aug 18 by londonlisa2001
No. What you have is supposition. He says he has evidence.
Now I’m on legal expert but I have serious doubts that the legerdemain of an over-active imagination constitutes ‘evidence’ that would satisfy a court, Lis.
An idea isn't responsible for those who believe in it.
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Owen Jones gets filled in on 22:20 - Aug 18 with 1725 views
Owen Jones gets filled in on 22:14 - Aug 18 by londonlisa2001
No. What you have is supposition. He says he has evidence.
What he says and what he has could well be two different things.
I know in the Guardian article, he claimed he was told by an anti-fascist group football hoolies were apparently talking about it hours after it happened, but that's hearsay and not really proof of anything unless there was an admission / identifiying evidence.
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Owen Jones gets filled in on 22:26 - Aug 18 with 1693 views
Owen Jones gets filled in on 22:10 - Aug 18 by Lohengrin
And this being London one would have to assume CCTV footage. Curious none has been released so the public can help identify this curiously ineffective Blackshirt squadristi, don’t you think, Bluey?
I have a few mates who are cops, the CCTV wouldn’t be released to the general public until other lines of enquiry had been exhausted.
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Owen Jones gets filled in on 22:28 - Aug 18 with 1687 views
Owen Jones gets filled in on 22:33 - Aug 18 by Lohengrin
Paste this into a Google - cctv footage released of suspects - and see for yourself.
If the lines of enquiry are exhausted and they are unable to identify the offenders then they will release it sooner rather than later, but if for example by viewing it themselves they identified suspects they wouldn’t release it, they would retain the footage as evidence for use later on.
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Owen Jones gets filled in on 22:55 - Aug 18 with 1626 views
Owen Jones gets filled in on 22:52 - Aug 18 by majorraglan
If the lines of enquiry are exhausted and they are unable to identify the offenders then they will release it sooner rather than later, but if for example by viewing it themselves they identified suspects they wouldn’t release it, they would retain the footage as evidence for use later on.
I can’t wait to see these ‘attackers.’ They must have all been wearing fluffy slippers and knitted mittens judging by the damage they’ve done to little Owen.
An idea isn't responsible for those who believe in it.
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Owen Jones gets filled in on 23:12 - Aug 18 with 1610 views
Owen Jones gets filled in on 22:31 - Aug 18 by bluey_the_blue
Are CCTV operators police or civilians?
I think that depends where you are. In Swansea it’s owned and operated by the Council who have a link to police control room. A mate of mine used to work for another Local Authority who owned their own CCTV system but it was based in a police station so I think it varies from place to place.
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Owen Jones gets filled in on 23:15 - Aug 18 with 1603 views
Owen Jones gets filled in on 22:55 - Aug 18 by Lohengrin
I can’t wait to see these ‘attackers.’ They must have all been wearing fluffy slippers and knitted mittens judging by the damage they’ve done to little Owen.
There were only four of them too.
The creatures outside looked from pig to man, and from man to pig, and from pig to man again; but already it was impossible to say which was which.
Owen Jones gets filled in on 22:55 - Aug 18 by Lohengrin
I can’t wait to see these ‘attackers.’ They must have all been wearing fluffy slippers and knitted mittens judging by the damage they’ve done to little Owen.
Hold the offended bus! Lisa will be along soon to scold you ... 😂
You might think I've forgotten, but one day, when you least expect it, my time will come.
Owen Jones gets filled in on 06:20 - Aug 19 by waynekerr55
As said earlier in the thread, despite him being a divisive and vulgar individual, nobody should be beaten up for, in essence, an opinion.
Exactly. Not often I shout at the TV but when he goes off on one I make an exception.
He has the right to his views etc, but that should not make him a target, but it does.
Whether it was the far right or not, or whether he has bruises or not should not be the question, everyone should have the right to have a night out and walk the streets safely
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Owen Jones gets filled in on 09:05 - Aug 19 with 1432 views
Owen Jones gets filled in on 08:09 - Aug 19 by 3swan
Exactly. Not often I shout at the TV but when he goes off on one I make an exception.
He has the right to his views etc, but that should not make him a target, but it does.
Whether it was the far right or not, or whether he has bruises or not should not be the question, everyone should have the right to have a night out and walk the streets safely
Oh I agree. His particular brand of Caviar Communism gets on my tits!
Owen Jones gets filled in on 22:55 - Aug 18 by Lohengrin
I can’t wait to see these ‘attackers.’ They must have all been wearing fluffy slippers and knitted mittens judging by the damage they’ve done to little Owen.
F - troop from Millwall. Harry the dog has come out of retirement.
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Owen Jones gets filled in on 11:50 - Aug 19 with 1359 views