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| Match thread: Scunthorpe away on 10:46 - Sep 9 by jonahwhereru |
Due to the distance between home and Rochdale the first 3 games I saw last season were all 0 - 0 draws. Home to Bury, and away to Southend and Wimbledon. 2 of the 3 were as dull as ditch water.
I am a simple man and have a simple view that I like to watch Rochdale win, or at least score in a game.
So while like many I hold my breathe when the opposition put in a cross, at least this year the club are giving us something to moan about and cheer about in most games.
Iāll take yesterday over ditch water all season long. |
A very good point. Thereās also the fact that we looked incapable of sorting out our away form last season and in some games we didnāt even look like scoring, that definitely seems to have been addressed with the realisation thereās not much point in trying to stay tight and nick a goal. It really might be a season where we are looking to outscore the opposition, and weād have done that yesterday had Wilbraham stuck away that big chance at the end. | |
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| Match thread: Scunthorpe away on 11:12 - Sep 9 with 2765 views | fitzochris |
| Match thread: Scunthorpe away on 10:52 - Sep 9 by 442Dale |
A very good point. Thereās also the fact that we looked incapable of sorting out our away form last season and in some games we didnāt even look like scoring, that definitely seems to have been addressed with the realisation thereās not much point in trying to stay tight and nick a goal. It really might be a season where we are looking to outscore the opposition, and weād have done that yesterday had Wilbraham stuck away that big chance at the end. |
It certainly is worth celebrating the fact we look like we can score this season. Even with Zach Clough failing to keep his head, we looked like we could score once we stopped trying to move between the lines. Iām no John Beck advocate, but itās so pleasing to see that if one way doesnāt work, we can switch to another and be effective.
Fair play to Ollie Rathbone and Matty Gillam for the way they took their chances on. Who cares about the deflections? You get lucky by taking chances.
Wilbraham, despite falling over the ball and missing a sitter, really changed the dynamic of the game when he game on. With Calvin out the other side too, winning everything, it really did create those second balls for the likes of Camps, Rathbone and Gillam to run on to. |  |
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| Match thread: Scunthorpe away on 11:31 - Sep 9 with 2718 views | ColDale |
Think I had my blue tinted glasses on yesterday.
Match stats don't always tell a story. BBC has us with 63% possession, with more than double the number of shots that Scunny had, and double the number of shots on target away at a side who made the Play Offs last year. We could and should have won it.
Personally think we are one player away from being a really good side. Stick a Peter Clarke style player in that defence and we'll be come a different outfit all together. We know we lack a dominant defender and that costs us at both ends as someone like that would give us 4 or 5 goals over the course of a season.
We shouldn't have conceded three goals yesterday. I get the frustration but I don't think we were poor in the first half. We matched Scunny in the first half but messed up twice, once as a team, and then once individually by Clough. What I will say is that defence was patched up. If Delaney was available, he plays. If MJ Williams was available (and I'm not convinced by him). he plays. Circumstances meant we went with what we did and the inclusion of either would have see us defend that first goal better.
I know people get bored of Hill talking about individual mistakes but there were times when the game was littered with them. We need to make sure we don't give set pieces away, and for me that's worse than our struggles to defend them. Clough lacked common sense yesterday and if the referee was doing his job properly, Clough would have been sent off. We were fortunate that we had the chance to take him off when we did.
But there was just so many positives to take from that second half. What a game. We absolutely murdered them and its a long while since I've seen a home side so relieved to hear the final whistle. They were hanging on for dear life and Wilbraham undoubtedly should have scored there at the end. it was great to watch.
We are such a better side when we play on the front foot and we play in the opposition half. I know we get ourselves into these positions, but there's a resilience that wasn't there last year. We accepted defeat far too easily last season but we've grown a pair over the Summer and that responsibility we need to take defensively is there up front when we go for it. This isn't down to new recruits, this is the same players stepping up. We've seen it three or four times this season now.
We seemed to be able to run round their full backs at will in that last 15 minutes. Scunny were dead on their feet. it was great to watch and for me it shows the improvements on last year.
For me, we're not going to compete with the Sunderlands, the Barnsley and the Peterboroughs of this world. But we've definitely shown that we are capable of competing with the Scunthorpes, the Coventrys etc. We are not a fifth bottom team, and I see no reason why we can't finish top half. There's an awful lot of samey teams in the division this year and I don't see what they can offer that we can't.
We've got tweaking to do and that's it. Confidence will grow as results continue to improve. The defence will improve when the likes of Raff and Delaney find their form again, and displays like yesterday will give us that belief. We're a good side. |  | | |
| Match thread: Scunthorpe away on 11:37 - Sep 9 with 2706 views | fitzochris |
| Match thread: Scunthorpe away on 11:31 - Sep 9 by ColDale |
Think I had my blue tinted glasses on yesterday.
Match stats don't always tell a story. BBC has us with 63% possession, with more than double the number of shots that Scunny had, and double the number of shots on target away at a side who made the Play Offs last year. We could and should have won it.
Personally think we are one player away from being a really good side. Stick a Peter Clarke style player in that defence and we'll be come a different outfit all together. We know we lack a dominant defender and that costs us at both ends as someone like that would give us 4 or 5 goals over the course of a season.
We shouldn't have conceded three goals yesterday. I get the frustration but I don't think we were poor in the first half. We matched Scunny in the first half but messed up twice, once as a team, and then once individually by Clough. What I will say is that defence was patched up. If Delaney was available, he plays. If MJ Williams was available (and I'm not convinced by him). he plays. Circumstances meant we went with what we did and the inclusion of either would have see us defend that first goal better.
I know people get bored of Hill talking about individual mistakes but there were times when the game was littered with them. We need to make sure we don't give set pieces away, and for me that's worse than our struggles to defend them. Clough lacked common sense yesterday and if the referee was doing his job properly, Clough would have been sent off. We were fortunate that we had the chance to take him off when we did.
But there was just so many positives to take from that second half. What a game. We absolutely murdered them and its a long while since I've seen a home side so relieved to hear the final whistle. They were hanging on for dear life and Wilbraham undoubtedly should have scored there at the end. it was great to watch.
We are such a better side when we play on the front foot and we play in the opposition half. I know we get ourselves into these positions, but there's a resilience that wasn't there last year. We accepted defeat far too easily last season but we've grown a pair over the Summer and that responsibility we need to take defensively is there up front when we go for it. This isn't down to new recruits, this is the same players stepping up. We've seen it three or four times this season now.
We seemed to be able to run round their full backs at will in that last 15 minutes. Scunny were dead on their feet. it was great to watch and for me it shows the improvements on last year.
For me, we're not going to compete with the Sunderlands, the Barnsley and the Peterboroughs of this world. But we've definitely shown that we are capable of competing with the Scunthorpes, the Coventrys etc. We are not a fifth bottom team, and I see no reason why we can't finish top half. There's an awful lot of samey teams in the division this year and I don't see what they can offer that we can't.
We've got tweaking to do and that's it. Confidence will grow as results continue to improve. The defence will improve when the likes of Raff and Delaney find their form again, and displays like yesterday will give us that belief. We're a good side. |
There are no blue-tinted glasses there. The vast majority of that makes sense (other than perhaps how good we were in the first half - there was a reason we switched approach).
I think once we stop conceding daft free kicks and tighten up defending set pieces, there is no reason why we canāt finish much higher than last season.
Being on the front foot from kick off is a key point for me. | |
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| Match thread: Scunthorpe away on 11:47 - Sep 9 with 2682 views | electricblue |
Looking at the highlights of this seasons matches so far and then add last season it comes across that Dale need somebody in the defence who can organise them a leader as such.
Perhaps that is the type of player required.... |  |
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| Match thread: Scunthorpe away on 12:28 - Sep 9 with 2607 views | SaxonDale |
Good post, Col. I'd argue that we're a huge amount closer to getting it right than we have been for the last 18 months. Once up to speed an attack of Clough and Henderson will give every defence in the league something to worry about and as long as they're both always in the final third then we'll always create chances. Added to that Dooley, Gillam, Andrew and Wilbraham have all shown at varying times that they can add something when called upon.
I think the players have grown up over the last few months- no doubt helped by the more experienced players added to the squad and there is a resilience that wasn't on show enough last season. A word on Rathbone too, 4 goals so far this season, I think we may struggle to hold onto him next summer if he keeps up his performance levels.
The centre of defence is the obvious achilles heel at the moment and I agree with Col that a player like Clarke would shore it up instantly. I don't think we've properly replaced Keane since his injury however it is important to remember that the back 3 of McGahey , McNulty and Delaney did very well in the second half of last season. Would like to see Finnerty at least make an appearance in the match day squad to add a bit of competition to the current three, though. |  | | |
| Match thread: Scunthorpe away on 12:41 - Sep 9 with 2585 views | 442Dale |
| Match thread: Scunthorpe away on 11:37 - Sep 9 by fitzochris |
There are no blue-tinted glasses there. The vast majority of that makes sense (other than perhaps how good we were in the first half - there was a reason we switched approach).
I think once we stop conceding daft free kicks and tighten up defending set pieces, there is no reason why we canāt finish much higher than last season.
Being on the front foot from kick off is a key point for me. |
Thatās why it would benefit us to be more direct early as we have been later in games. It doesnāt mean smash it 50 yards, but weāre less likely to concede silly free kicks round our area if we play in the oppositionās half. Yes, go through midfield if itās on, but if it isnāt then thereās no need to pass about so much at the back when under pressure - one bad ball, one foul to try and recover it, one needless free kick. Itās something we are changing, thatās obvious since Middlesbrough, players have to be confident that retaining possession near own goal isnāt a priority.
Simply, move everyone 20 yards up the pitch and we look a threatening side, whilst masking our deficiencies somewhat. | |
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| Match thread: Scunthorpe away on 12:51 - Sep 9 with 2558 views | R17ALE |
| Match thread: Scunthorpe away on 11:47 - Sep 9 by electricblue |
Looking at the highlights of this seasons matches so far and then add last season it comes across that Dale need somebody in the defence who can organise them a leader as such.
Perhaps that is the type of player required.... |
Agree. I overheard someone yesterday saying, "has anyone got Guy Branston's number?"
I assume it wasn't you! |  |
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| Match thread: Scunthorpe away on 13:07 - Sep 9 with 2514 views | Shun |
| Match thread: Scunthorpe away on 11:31 - Sep 9 by ColDale |
Think I had my blue tinted glasses on yesterday.
Match stats don't always tell a story. BBC has us with 63% possession, with more than double the number of shots that Scunny had, and double the number of shots on target away at a side who made the Play Offs last year. We could and should have won it.
Personally think we are one player away from being a really good side. Stick a Peter Clarke style player in that defence and we'll be come a different outfit all together. We know we lack a dominant defender and that costs us at both ends as someone like that would give us 4 or 5 goals over the course of a season.
We shouldn't have conceded three goals yesterday. I get the frustration but I don't think we were poor in the first half. We matched Scunny in the first half but messed up twice, once as a team, and then once individually by Clough. What I will say is that defence was patched up. If Delaney was available, he plays. If MJ Williams was available (and I'm not convinced by him). he plays. Circumstances meant we went with what we did and the inclusion of either would have see us defend that first goal better.
I know people get bored of Hill talking about individual mistakes but there were times when the game was littered with them. We need to make sure we don't give set pieces away, and for me that's worse than our struggles to defend them. Clough lacked common sense yesterday and if the referee was doing his job properly, Clough would have been sent off. We were fortunate that we had the chance to take him off when we did.
But there was just so many positives to take from that second half. What a game. We absolutely murdered them and its a long while since I've seen a home side so relieved to hear the final whistle. They were hanging on for dear life and Wilbraham undoubtedly should have scored there at the end. it was great to watch.
We are such a better side when we play on the front foot and we play in the opposition half. I know we get ourselves into these positions, but there's a resilience that wasn't there last year. We accepted defeat far too easily last season but we've grown a pair over the Summer and that responsibility we need to take defensively is there up front when we go for it. This isn't down to new recruits, this is the same players stepping up. We've seen it three or four times this season now.
We seemed to be able to run round their full backs at will in that last 15 minutes. Scunny were dead on their feet. it was great to watch and for me it shows the improvements on last year.
For me, we're not going to compete with the Sunderlands, the Barnsley and the Peterboroughs of this world. But we've definitely shown that we are capable of competing with the Scunthorpes, the Coventrys etc. We are not a fifth bottom team, and I see no reason why we can't finish top half. There's an awful lot of samey teams in the division this year and I don't see what they can offer that we can't.
We've got tweaking to do and that's it. Confidence will grow as results continue to improve. The defence will improve when the likes of Raff and Delaney find their form again, and displays like yesterday will give us that belief. We're a good side. |
Great post, Col, I agree with all of it and youāve echoed a lot of what I said yesterday. Apart from the defending of set pieces and the conceding of them (which has been a problem for as long as I can remember now and, yes, itās very frustrating that it hasnāt been sorted), there wasnāt much yesterday that didnāt please and encourage me.
Jonahwhereru posted about the preference for games like yesterday as opposed to some of the turgid, defensive games we saw last season, and Iām sure everybody would agree. That goes hand in hand with playing on the front foot as we did a lot yesterday, as we did at Burton. It leaves us open at the back as we start to play quite expansively, but itās a lot more entertaining and more often than not leads to goals. Stick to that philosophy and bring in a dominant leader in defence and I really believe weāll be a very good side again. |  | | |
| Match thread: Scunthorpe away on 14:08 - Sep 9 with 2388 views | aleanddale |
| Match thread: Scunthorpe away on 11:31 - Sep 9 by ColDale |
Think I had my blue tinted glasses on yesterday.
Match stats don't always tell a story. BBC has us with 63% possession, with more than double the number of shots that Scunny had, and double the number of shots on target away at a side who made the Play Offs last year. We could and should have won it.
Personally think we are one player away from being a really good side. Stick a Peter Clarke style player in that defence and we'll be come a different outfit all together. We know we lack a dominant defender and that costs us at both ends as someone like that would give us 4 or 5 goals over the course of a season.
We shouldn't have conceded three goals yesterday. I get the frustration but I don't think we were poor in the first half. We matched Scunny in the first half but messed up twice, once as a team, and then once individually by Clough. What I will say is that defence was patched up. If Delaney was available, he plays. If MJ Williams was available (and I'm not convinced by him). he plays. Circumstances meant we went with what we did and the inclusion of either would have see us defend that first goal better.
I know people get bored of Hill talking about individual mistakes but there were times when the game was littered with them. We need to make sure we don't give set pieces away, and for me that's worse than our struggles to defend them. Clough lacked common sense yesterday and if the referee was doing his job properly, Clough would have been sent off. We were fortunate that we had the chance to take him off when we did.
But there was just so many positives to take from that second half. What a game. We absolutely murdered them and its a long while since I've seen a home side so relieved to hear the final whistle. They were hanging on for dear life and Wilbraham undoubtedly should have scored there at the end. it was great to watch.
We are such a better side when we play on the front foot and we play in the opposition half. I know we get ourselves into these positions, but there's a resilience that wasn't there last year. We accepted defeat far too easily last season but we've grown a pair over the Summer and that responsibility we need to take defensively is there up front when we go for it. This isn't down to new recruits, this is the same players stepping up. We've seen it three or four times this season now.
We seemed to be able to run round their full backs at will in that last 15 minutes. Scunny were dead on their feet. it was great to watch and for me it shows the improvements on last year.
For me, we're not going to compete with the Sunderlands, the Barnsley and the Peterboroughs of this world. But we've definitely shown that we are capable of competing with the Scunthorpes, the Coventrys etc. We are not a fifth bottom team, and I see no reason why we can't finish top half. There's an awful lot of samey teams in the division this year and I don't see what they can offer that we can't.
We've got tweaking to do and that's it. Confidence will grow as results continue to improve. The defence will improve when the likes of Raff and Delaney find their form again, and displays like yesterday will give us that belief. We're a good side. |
Post of the week.
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| Match thread: Scunthorpe away on 14:12 - Sep 9 with 2379 views | TVOS1907 |
| Match thread: Scunthorpe away on 11:47 - Sep 9 by electricblue |
Looking at the highlights of this seasons matches so far and then add last season it comes across that Dale need somebody in the defence who can organise them a leader as such.
Perhaps that is the type of player required.... |
Good point.
You would think someone else might have mentioned it by now. |  |
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| Match thread: Scunthorpe away on 14:13 - Sep 9 with 2373 views | electricblue |
| Match thread: Scunthorpe away on 12:51 - Sep 9 by R17ALE |
Agree. I overheard someone yesterday saying, "has anyone got Guy Branston's number?"
I assume it wasn't you! |
That animal....surely not....
Give John Terry a call.....
He is doing nowt i dont think. | |
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| Match thread: Scunthorpe away on 14:18 - Sep 9 with 2360 views | TVOS1907 |
| Match thread: Scunthorpe away on 12:51 - Sep 9 by R17ALE |
Agree. I overheard someone yesterday saying, "has anyone got Guy Branston's number?"
I assume it wasn't you! |
It won't have been. | |
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| Match thread: Scunthorpe away on 14:21 - Sep 9 with 2347 views | TVOS1907 |
| Match thread: Scunthorpe away on 08:47 - Sep 9 by aleanddale |
Seriously who are you hoping to replace Hill with?
You could try and actually go to an away game and support the lads.
You definitely need a new hobby on a Saturday afternoon. |
Although the way he expresses his views are very OTT and uncontrolled, in my opinion, how do you know he doesn't go to away games? [Post edited 9 Sep 2018 14:40]
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| Match thread: Scunthorpe away on 14:25 - Sep 9 with 2340 views | DaleiLama |
| Match thread: Scunthorpe away on 11:31 - Sep 9 by ColDale |
Think I had my blue tinted glasses on yesterday.
Match stats don't always tell a story. BBC has us with 63% possession, with more than double the number of shots that Scunny had, and double the number of shots on target away at a side who made the Play Offs last year. We could and should have won it.
Personally think we are one player away from being a really good side. Stick a Peter Clarke style player in that defence and we'll be come a different outfit all together. We know we lack a dominant defender and that costs us at both ends as someone like that would give us 4 or 5 goals over the course of a season.
We shouldn't have conceded three goals yesterday. I get the frustration but I don't think we were poor in the first half. We matched Scunny in the first half but messed up twice, once as a team, and then once individually by Clough. What I will say is that defence was patched up. If Delaney was available, he plays. If MJ Williams was available (and I'm not convinced by him). he plays. Circumstances meant we went with what we did and the inclusion of either would have see us defend that first goal better.
I know people get bored of Hill talking about individual mistakes but there were times when the game was littered with them. We need to make sure we don't give set pieces away, and for me that's worse than our struggles to defend them. Clough lacked common sense yesterday and if the referee was doing his job properly, Clough would have been sent off. We were fortunate that we had the chance to take him off when we did.
But there was just so many positives to take from that second half. What a game. We absolutely murdered them and its a long while since I've seen a home side so relieved to hear the final whistle. They were hanging on for dear life and Wilbraham undoubtedly should have scored there at the end. it was great to watch.
We are such a better side when we play on the front foot and we play in the opposition half. I know we get ourselves into these positions, but there's a resilience that wasn't there last year. We accepted defeat far too easily last season but we've grown a pair over the Summer and that responsibility we need to take defensively is there up front when we go for it. This isn't down to new recruits, this is the same players stepping up. We've seen it three or four times this season now.
We seemed to be able to run round their full backs at will in that last 15 minutes. Scunny were dead on their feet. it was great to watch and for me it shows the improvements on last year.
For me, we're not going to compete with the Sunderlands, the Barnsley and the Peterboroughs of this world. But we've definitely shown that we are capable of competing with the Scunthorpes, the Coventrys etc. We are not a fifth bottom team, and I see no reason why we can't finish top half. There's an awful lot of samey teams in the division this year and I don't see what they can offer that we can't.
We've got tweaking to do and that's it. Confidence will grow as results continue to improve. The defence will improve when the likes of Raff and Delaney find their form again, and displays like yesterday will give us that belief. We're a good side. |
Good to hear, especially from your good self. I thought and posted previously that this squad should be top half minimum. Since then it's been strengthened.
The thing is, all the sentiment and prose is for naught if the points don't start coming, especially at home. Here words (of encouragement) can certainly help and we need all the support we can get to try to build some real momentum now.
Keith Hill has always got 1 + 1 to produce at least three. Currently he's breaking even at best, and he needs to find a way to consistently unlock the potential we have at our disposal. If he can just do that we might go far. I really hope he reembraces the 'score more than the opponent' philosophy. The 'conceding fewer' of last year was turgid and failed (nearly catastrophically). |  |
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| Match thread: Scunthorpe away on 15:14 - Sep 9 with 2260 views | kiwidale |
| Match thread: Scunthorpe away on 14:21 - Sep 9 by TVOS1907 |
Although the way he expresses his views are very OTT and uncontrolled, in my opinion, how do you know he doesn't go to away games? [Post edited 9 Sep 2018 14:40]
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I agree dale23yrs can be a bit pessimistic but remember his Hill out post was timed when we were 2-0 down due to repeated defensive frailties that have been an issue for far too long, apart from his Hill out remark he was spot on as many others agreed on. at 3-I down just as Bazinga was unfurling his banner I gave up and went back to bed I wasn't very happy. I'm just glad I didn't post it would not have been complimentary. One thing about Hill is that he is an enigma both alluring and annoying in equal measure. [Post edited 9 Sep 2018 15:27]
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| Match thread: Scunthorpe away on 16:21 - Sep 9 with 2136 views | Yorkshire_Dale |
| Match thread: Scunthorpe away on 15:14 - Sep 9 by kiwidale |
I agree dale23yrs can be a bit pessimistic but remember his Hill out post was timed when we were 2-0 down due to repeated defensive frailties that have been an issue for far too long, apart from his Hill out remark he was spot on as many others agreed on. at 3-I down just as Bazinga was unfurling his banner I gave up and went back to bed I wasn't very happy. I'm just glad I didn't post it would not have been complimentary. One thing about Hill is that he is an enigma both alluring and annoying in equal measure. [Post edited 9 Sep 2018 15:27]
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What did you think when you finally found out we had drawn 3-3?
"feels like a win"? | | | |
| Match thread: Scunthorpe away on 16:37 - Sep 9 with 2104 views | kiwidale |
| Match thread: Scunthorpe away on 16:21 - Sep 9 by Yorkshire_Dale |
What did you think when you finally found out we had drawn 3-3?
"feels like a win"? |
I fully expected it to end in a thrashing and yes it did feel like a win. | |
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| Match thread: Scunthorpe away on 16:49 - Sep 9 with 2067 views | macro |
Iām sure Hill would argue he has strengthened the defence
Delaney, Williams, Randall, Finnerty, Hart added within the last six months
It is still the weak spot yes but he recognises it |  | | |
| Match thread: Scunthorpe away on 17:01 - Sep 9 with 2038 views | DaleiLama |
| Match thread: Scunthorpe away on 16:21 - Sep 9 by Yorkshire_Dale |
What did you think when you finally found out we had drawn 3-3?
"feels like a win"? |
Deffo felt like a win. We only won one point but a victory nevertheless. Could have been three too from what i read but I can't see highlights here. We were walking home anyway but after reading comments on first half I'd given up. Was buzzing with the late storm. Like many have said before me - attack, attack, attack - it's the Rochdale way. | |
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| Match thread: Scunthorpe away on 17:37 - Sep 9 with 1954 views | Shun |
| Match thread: Scunthorpe away on 17:01 - Sep 9 by DaleiLama |
Deffo felt like a win. We only won one point but a victory nevertheless. Could have been three too from what i read but I can't see highlights here. We were walking home anyway but after reading comments on first half I'd given up. Was buzzing with the late storm. Like many have said before me - attack, attack, attack - it's the Rochdale way. |
Where are you based? When you arenāt in Tibet, obvs. | | | |
| Match thread: Scunthorpe away on 17:40 - Sep 9 with 1949 views | DaleiLama |
| Match thread: Scunthorpe away on 17:37 - Sep 9 by Shun |
Where are you based? When you arenāt in Tibet, obvs. |
Spreading the word in Crete - back for Saturday's game. | |
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| Match thread: Scunthorpe away on 17:49 - Sep 9 with 1924 views | TVOS1907 |
| Match thread: Scunthorpe away on 15:14 - Sep 9 by kiwidale |
I agree dale23yrs can be a bit pessimistic but remember his Hill out post was timed when we were 2-0 down due to repeated defensive frailties that have been an issue for far too long, apart from his Hill out remark he was spot on as many others agreed on. at 3-I down just as Bazinga was unfurling his banner I gave up and went back to bed I wasn't very happy. I'm just glad I didn't post it would not have been complimentary. One thing about Hill is that he is an enigma both alluring and annoying in equal measure. [Post edited 9 Sep 2018 15:27]
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But by the same token, shouldn't there consequently be a 'HILL IN' post for the decisions he made that turned the game back in our favour?
Some people are very quick to criticise, but very slow to praise.
Another five minutes in the game and we would have probably won. [Post edited 9 Sep 2018 17:51]
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| Match thread: Scunthorpe away on 18:45 - Sep 9 with 1838 views | ChaffRAFC |
Good point in the end, I'd have taken a point before the game, I'd have snapped your hand off at 2-0 for a point and I'd have sold my child for a point at 3-1 yet still came away from Glanford Park with a tinge of disappointment not to win the game.
I was a bit surprised with the teamsheet but then realised MJ and Inman must both be injured for us to have a 15 year old on the bench. The MJ absence was the most crucial for me, not because we wouldn't have made the mistakes we did but because it forced us into going with a back four instead of a back three and wingbacks. Some will have welcomed this no doubt but for the me, the back three works away from home.
McNulty doesn't play well in a back four, we all know that by now surely and it proved to be the case again yesterday because he was awful. He was marking Novak for the first goal and by the time Novak got his head to the ball, McNulty was in a different postcode to him.
The second goal is poor from Clough, their lad skins Henderson on the edge of the 18 yard box and Clough runs with him and while he does right not diving in, he absolutely has to do better to stop the shot coming in. Really poor again defensively.
At the other end we're looking capable of scoring with Clough and Henderson causing their back line problems and it looks like a stonewall penalty on Cannon but it's waved away. Andrew also had a great chance and absolutely spooned it when it was easier to hit the target. Awful miss.
Clough picks up a booking, then down our end of the pitch brings their lad down for a clear second booking and we get away with it and it allows us to bring him off while we still can before he's sent off.
Hart has a great chance after a fantastic ball from Rathbone but his first touch is garbage and the keeper gets it and he goes in on the keeper in a late attempt to get the ball.
First half was very very bad with only really Cannon and Rathbone coming out of it with any credit.
Second half was a completely different story. We get the goal back from Rathbone who reacted well to Hart's parried free kick and then to go back up the other end and concede a minute later is just absolutely criminal. McGahey loses his man who heads home. Furious at this point that we'd got back in the game and thrown it away.
Then the change that baffled pretty much everyone in the away end. Wilbraham on for Cannon who for me, had been our best player. Booing echoed around the away end and even I was left scratching my head. God only knows what Andy Cannon's parents sat in front of me thought.
But it worked!
The change of system worked.
Rathbone came into his own and dictated play like we've wanted Camps to do for years now and he's never been able to and we absolutely dominated from then on. Rathbone gets a great goal back to make it 3-2 with a top class turn on the edge of the box to wrong foot the defender.
The chances kept coming, Camps went close, Andrew went close and Henderson spurned a great chance as well. Wilbraham was superb, he was causing all sorts of problems and they were struggling to deal with him and Andrew.
Gillam, not rated by many, myself included gets his second goal in a week with the help of a deflection to equalise and it's nothing less than we deserved. And there's scenes in the away end. Still time to win the game.
Then came his chance, Andrew step over, Wilbraham has to finish it, he can take a touch and slot it home, he doesn't, he hits it first time and it sails over the bar. What a chance.
Disappointed yet satisfied. If that makes sense!
Oh and without wanting to go all 442Dale on us, the decision to wear the pink kit against a claret and blue kit was an absolute joke. Difficult to differentiate between the two kits at times, only the white socks helped but why didn't we wear white? Less straining on the eyes. From what I hear, it may be because we have a good record in the pink kit so far this season. Come on. Common sense please. |  |
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Good point in the end, I'd have taken a point before the game, I'd have snapped your hand off at 2-0 for a point and I'd have sold my child for a point at 3-1 yet still came away from Glanford Park with a tinge of disappointment not to win the game.
I was a bit surprised with the teamsheet but then realised MJ and Inman must both be injured for us to have a 15 year old on the bench. The MJ absence was the most crucial for me, not because we wouldn't have made the mistakes we did but because it forced us into going with a back four instead of a back three and wingbacks. Some will have welcomed this no doubt but for the me, the back three works away from home.
McNulty doesn't play well in a back four, we all know that by now surely and it proved to be the case again yesterday because he was awful. He was marking Novak for the first goal and by the time Novak got his head to the ball, McNulty was in a different postcode to him.
The second goal is poor from Clough, their lad skins Henderson on the edge of the 18 yard box and Clough runs with him and while he does right not diving in, he absolutely has to do better to stop the shot coming in. Really poor again defensively.
At the other end we're looking capable of scoring with Clough and Henderson causing their back line problems and it looks like a stonewall penalty on Cannon but it's waved away. Andrew also had a great chance and absolutely spooned it when it was easier to hit the target. Awful miss.
Clough picks up a booking, then down our end of the pitch brings their lad down for a clear second booking and we get away with it and it allows us to bring him off while we still can before he's sent off.
Hart has a great chance after a fantastic ball from Rathbone but his first touch is garbage and the keeper gets it and he goes in on the keeper in a late attempt to get the ball.
First half was very very bad with only really Cannon and Rathbone coming out of it with any credit.
Second half was a completely different story. We get the goal back from Rathbone who reacted well to Hart's parried free kick and then to go back up the other end and concede a minute later is just absolutely criminal. McGahey loses his man who heads home. Furious at this point that we'd got back in the game and thrown it away.
Then the change that baffled pretty much everyone in the away end. Wilbraham on for Cannon who for me, had been our best player. Booing echoed around the away end and even I was left scratching my head. God only knows what Andy Cannon's parents sat in front of me thought.
But it worked!
The change of system worked.
Rathbone came into his own and dictated play like we've wanted Camps to do for years now and he's never been able to and we absolutely dominated from then on. Rathbone gets a great goal back to make it 3-2 with a top class turn on the edge of the box to wrong foot the defender.
The chances kept coming, Camps went close, Andrew went close and Henderson spurned a great chance as well. Wilbraham was superb, he was causing all sorts of problems and they were struggling to deal with him and Andrew.
Gillam, not rated by many, myself included gets his second goal in a week with the help of a deflection to equalise and it's nothing less than we deserved. And there's scenes in the away end. Still time to win the game.
Then came his chance, Andrew step over, Wilbraham has to finish it, he can take a touch and slot it home, he doesn't, he hits it first time and it sails over the bar. What a chance.
Disappointed yet satisfied. If that makes sense!
Oh and without wanting to go all 442Dale on us, the decision to wear the pink kit against a claret and blue kit was an absolute joke. Difficult to differentiate between the two kits at times, only the white socks helped but why didn't we wear white? Less straining on the eyes. From what I hear, it may be because we have a good record in the pink kit so far this season. Come on. Common sense please. |
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