| Premier League rights sold - £4.46bn (2 still left to sell) 18:57 - Feb 13 with 8180 views | Kennedy |
So they are less per games than the current deal. The above is for BT and Sky.
https://news.sky.com/story/sky-and-bt-in-new-446bn-premier-league-deal-11249236
These are the 2 packages remaining
Package F
Total matches: 20 Matches per club: Max two; Min two Kick-off times: All 20 matches from one Bank Holiday and one midweek fixture programme
Package G
Total matches: 20 Matches per club: Max two; Min two Kick-off times: All 20 matches from two midweek fixture programmes [Post edited 13 Feb 2018 18:59]
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| Premier League rights sold - £4.46bn (2 still left to sell) on 19:01 - Feb 13 with 6450 views | Dr_Winston |
The Saturday evening game idea is rubbish. Just do more on Friday nights. |  |
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| Premier League rights sold - £4.46bn (2 still left to sell) on 20:07 - Feb 13 with 6255 views | Jack_Kass |
| Premier League rights sold - £4.46bn (2 still left to sell) on 19:01 - Feb 13 by Dr_Winston |
The Saturday evening game idea is rubbish. Just do more on Friday nights. |
Yeah they did this format the Saturday before xmas - 4 games - 12pm until 10pm
Was a hard slog watching 4 games in a row  |  |
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| Premier League rights sold - £4.46bn (2 still left to sell) on 20:17 - Feb 13 with 6223 views | exiledclaseboy |
Looks like the price in total isn’t going to increase significantly from the last rights sale despite more games being sold. Be interesting to see who gets the last two packages. Probably another one each for Sky and Bee Tee. |  |
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| Premier League rights sold - £4.46bn (2 still left to sell) on 20:48 - Feb 13 with 6095 views | Kennedy |
| Premier League rights sold - £4.46bn (2 still left to sell) on 20:17 - Feb 13 by exiledclaseboy |
Looks like the price in total isn’t going to increase significantly from the last rights sale despite more games being sold. Be interesting to see who gets the last two packages. Probably another one each for Sky and Bee Tee. |
Think Amazon or Netflix will have a go.
Amazon will suit the 10 games in 1 night perfectly. | |
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| Premier League rights sold - £4.46bn (2 still left to sell) on 20:50 - Feb 13 with 6085 views | MrSwerve |
Looking forward to the day that they see sense and we can get a 'package' to see all of your own club's games live. |  |
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| Premier League rights sold - £4.46bn (2 still left to sell) on 20:51 - Feb 13 with 6083 views | exiledclaseboy |
| Premier League rights sold - £4.46bn (2 still left to sell) on 20:48 - Feb 13 by Kennedy |
Think Amazon or Netflix will have a go.
Amazon will suit the 10 games in 1 night perfectly. |
They’d need to have already bid if they want a package. They can’t join in at this stage. But I wouldn’t be surprised if they’re involved. I still think Sky will get the maximum 148 games they’re allowed though and BT will get the other package to pretty much maintain the status quo. [Post edited 13 Feb 2018 20:54]
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| Premier League rights sold - £4.46bn (2 still left to sell) on 20:55 - Feb 13 with 6056 views | LeonWasGod |
| Premier League rights sold - £4.46bn (2 still left to sell) on 20:48 - Feb 13 by Kennedy |
Think Amazon or Netflix will have a go.
Amazon will suit the 10 games in 1 night perfectly. |
That'd be great wouldn't it? Could end up with 4 providers and 4 different subscriptions if you want to make sure you don't miss any games.
Better for fans when sky had a monopoly.
It's getting towards the point that a ST is not much more expensive than TV (and infinitely preferable imo, which is why I ditched sky & BT). |  | | |
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| Premier League rights sold - £4.46bn (2 still left to sell) on 20:59 - Feb 13 with 6035 views | Neath_Jack |
| Premier League rights sold - £4.46bn (2 still left to sell) on 20:51 - Feb 13 by exiledclaseboy |
They’d need to have already bid if they want a package. They can’t join in at this stage. But I wouldn’t be surprised if they’re involved. I still think Sky will get the maximum 148 games they’re allowed though and BT will get the other package to pretty much maintain the status quo. [Post edited 13 Feb 2018 20:54]
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They were talking about Netflix and Amazon bidding for it on Talksport earlier on. They were also saying that SkySports have spent less time than the last time, whereas BT have paid more.
One ex player said the current players will be tamping though as they were all hoping for a massive pay rise again. |  |
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| Premier League rights sold - £4.46bn (2 still left to sell) on 21:11 - Feb 13 with 5982 views | max936 |
| Premier League rights sold - £4.46bn (2 still left to sell) on 19:01 - Feb 13 by Dr_Winston |
The Saturday evening game idea is rubbish. Just do more on Friday nights. |
Init, 7.45 on a Saturday night, 5.45 is bad enough  |  |
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| Premier League rights sold - £4.46bn (2 still left to sell) on 21:26 - Feb 13 with 5932 views | exiledclaseboy |
| Premier League rights sold - £4.46bn (2 still left to sell) on 20:59 - Feb 13 by Neath_Jack |
They were talking about Netflix and Amazon bidding for it on Talksport earlier on. They were also saying that SkySports have spent less time than the last time, whereas BT have paid more.
One ex player said the current players will be tamping though as they were all hoping for a massive pay rise again. |
Aye, I’d imagine there are more than the usual two bidders for the final packages otherwise they’d have announced them today as well. | |
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| Premier League rights sold - £4.46bn (2 still left to sell) on 21:34 - Feb 13 with 5896 views | longlostjack |
| Premier League rights sold - £4.46bn (2 still left to sell) on 20:50 - Feb 13 by MrSwerve |
Looking forward to the day that they see sense and we can get a 'package' to see all of your own club's games live. |
This. Pay per view wherever you are in the world. |  |
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| Premier League rights sold - £4.46bn (2 still left to sell) on 21:35 - Feb 13 with 5887 views | Neath_Jack |
| Premier League rights sold - £4.46bn (2 still left to sell) on 21:26 - Feb 13 by exiledclaseboy |
Aye, I’d imagine there are more than the usual two bidders for the final packages otherwise they’d have announced them today as well. |
They didn't say that Netflix and Amazon had actually bid mind, more that they wouldn't be surprised if they had. | |
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| Premier League rights sold - £4.46bn (2 still left to sell) on 21:43 - Feb 13 with 5846 views | SwansNZ |
| Premier League rights sold - £4.46bn (2 still left to sell) on 20:59 - Feb 13 by Neath_Jack |
They were talking about Netflix and Amazon bidding for it on Talksport earlier on. They were also saying that SkySports have spent less time than the last time, whereas BT have paid more.
One ex player said the current players will be tamping though as they were all hoping for a massive pay rise again. |
It's going to be tough on these PL players for sure. How will they cope! |  |
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| Premier League rights sold - £4.46bn (2 still left to sell) on 22:01 - Feb 13 with 5765 views | centrestandswan |
Be better if both Sky and BT buggered off and just let the BBC show the matches at the cost of a licence fee. Think of the money we all could save.  |  |
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| Premier League rights sold - £4.46bn (2 still left to sell) on 23:34 - Feb 13 with 5496 views | RevJames |
| Premier League rights sold - £4.46bn (2 still left to sell) on 22:01 - Feb 13 by centrestandswan |
Be better if both Sky and BT buggered off and just let the BBC show the matches at the cost of a licence fee. Think of the money we all could save. |
Interesting idea but without the tv money, how would smaller clubs like us afford the players needed to compete in the PL  | | | |
| Premier League rights sold - £4.46bn (2 still left to sell) on 06:33 - Feb 14 with 5300 views | somersetsimon |
| Premier League rights sold - £4.46bn (2 still left to sell) on 23:34 - Feb 13 by RevJames |
Interesting idea but without the tv money, how would smaller clubs like us afford the players needed to compete in the PL |
On the other hand, if there wasn't all this TV money sloshing around, the salaries and transfer fees wouldn't be so ridiculously high. |  | | |
| Premier League rights sold - £4.46bn (2 still left to sell) on 06:50 - Feb 14 with 5291 views | Dr_Winston |
| Premier League rights sold - £4.46bn (2 still left to sell) on 06:33 - Feb 14 by somersetsimon |
On the other hand, if there wasn't all this TV money sloshing around, the salaries and transfer fees wouldn't be so ridiculously high. |
Then all the best players would piss off abroad to where the money is. That's the balance to strike. | |
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| Premier League rights sold - £4.46bn (2 still left to sell) on 08:47 - Feb 14 with 5197 views | Shaky |
Very interesting.
I make that an average of around 8.5% less in the new deal for Sky and BT Sports on a per game broadcast basis.
Seem like they will scrape a bit more in from the other 2 packages being touted, but these are the flagship deals and clearly bring to an end the recent hockey stick trend in broadcasting rights prices.,
For owners generally that means a no-brainer path to increased future profits has been eliminated, and in that context it seems to me maintaining the ownership stake in Swansea may well have become meaningless for Kaplan. [Post edited 14 Feb 2018 8:53]
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| Premier League rights sold - £4.46bn (2 still left to sell) on 09:03 - Feb 14 with 5167 views | Akinfenwa |
I think Kodi and streaming sites have played a huge part in this. | | | |
| Premier League rights sold - £4.46bn (2 still left to sell) on 09:08 - Feb 14 with 5159 views | STID2017 |
| Premier League rights sold - £4.46bn (2 still left to sell) on 09:03 - Feb 14 by Akinfenwa |
I think Kodi and streaming sites have played a huge part in this. |
Long may they continue.
Most would be happy to pay a fair price for games we want to see.
In this day and age why don't they just do it ? |  |
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| Premier League rights sold - £4.46bn (2 still left to sell) on 09:23 - Feb 14 with 5135 views | Shaky |
| Premier League rights sold - £4.46bn (2 still left to sell) on 09:03 - Feb 14 by Akinfenwa |
I think Kodi and streaming sites have played a huge part in this. |
Probably, but it was clearly an unsustainable trend.
The key question now is how will the industry respond to a 'current' environment of spiralling transfer fees and wages, that logically must have been predicated on the fanciful notion that the TV rights trend would go on forever?
Not to scaremonger but the typical competitive implication of major upheaveal in industry dynamics is that a number of participants go bust.
For that not to happen, wages and most importatly transfer fees need to adjust downwards sharply as soon as possible. In the case of the former that is impossible due to longer term contracts, and with the super clubs driving much of the market and much less reliant on TV earnings than the rest of the league the other also seems unlikely, certainly in the immediate future. | |
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| Premier League rights sold - £4.46bn (2 still left to sell) on 09:30 - Feb 14 with 5122 views | Akinfenwa |
| Premier League rights sold - £4.46bn (2 still left to sell) on 09:23 - Feb 14 by Shaky |
Probably, but it was clearly an unsustainable trend.
The key question now is how will the industry respond to a 'current' environment of spiralling transfer fees and wages, that logically must have been predicated on the fanciful notion that the TV rights trend would go on forever?
Not to scaremonger but the typical competitive implication of major upheaveal in industry dynamics is that a number of participants go bust.
For that not to happen, wages and most importatly transfer fees need to adjust downwards sharply as soon as possible. In the case of the former that is impossible due to longer term contracts, and with the super clubs driving much of the market and much less reliant on TV earnings than the rest of the league the other also seems unlikely, certainly in the immediate future. |
I agree.
In simpler terms, if Sky ever did go through the hoop it would take loads of clubs with it. The big clubs would be less affected but clubs like ours who have little income from elsewhere would be dead.
I would hope there is a contingency plan somewhere. | | | |
| Premier League rights sold - £4.46bn (2 still left to sell) on 09:34 - Feb 14 with 5110 views | swanforthemoney |
| Premier League rights sold - £4.46bn (2 still left to sell) on 08:47 - Feb 14 by Shaky |
Very interesting.
I make that an average of around 8.5% less in the new deal for Sky and BT Sports on a per game broadcast basis.
Seem like they will scrape a bit more in from the other 2 packages being touted, but these are the flagship deals and clearly bring to an end the recent hockey stick trend in broadcasting rights prices.,
For owners generally that means a no-brainer path to increased future profits has been eliminated, and in that context it seems to me maintaining the ownership stake in Swansea may well have become meaningless for Kaplan. [Post edited 14 Feb 2018 8:53]
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Presumably they still have to sell International rights. Could China rights they actually go up from the last package? they might make up some of the difference |  |
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| Premier League rights sold - £4.46bn (2 still left to sell) on 09:35 - Feb 14 with 5105 views | swanforthemoney |
| Premier League rights sold - £4.46bn (2 still left to sell) on 20:50 - Feb 13 by MrSwerve |
Looking forward to the day that they see sense and we can get a 'package' to see all of your own club's games live. |
Ive got a package to see half the games live.
Season Ticket. | |
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