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January 18:15 - Dec 18 with 11300 viewsShun

I've seen a number of posts saying how crucial January is and that people expect new players to arrive. I wonder if those people might be disappointed though, based purely on Hill's history.

Off the top of my head I can only think of Perkins who Hill's signed permanently in the January window. I'm not counting COG as he was already here on loan. We've had a few notable loan signings such as Alfie, but other than that I can't think of any instances where Hill's been very active in this window. Obviously we could counter that by arguing that this is an unprecedented January for him as he's never been in trouble with us before, so it'll be interesting to see how it pans out.

How many players are people realistically expecting us to sign next month? And which positions?


Disclaimer: I've probably missed a load of players he's signed in January!
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January on 19:36 - Dec 18 with 6276 viewsDaleiLama

Knowing how we like to root through the bargain bin and, ironically, the January window isn't normally known for sales, I'm not holding my breath.

Also, having seen how Hilly operates and his inherent stubbornness, I think he will want to prove the non-believers wrong. Another reason to keep the purse strings tight. I also think he will prove the non-believers wrong somehow too. But then I know fook all about football by my own admission

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January on 20:29 - Dec 18 with 6187 viewsmacro

Reece Brown unless he's injured seems to have vanished off the face of the earth. Paid off
MJ Williams injured - loan finished
Slew will be released I'd imagine
Then there's Canavan who with Keane return to fitness will hardly feature.

So that's 4 wages freed.

As for players in, Shrewsbury have used the loan system well, maybe there's a couple of decent additions on loan and I'm sure they'll be a couple of players who know they'll be released by their current clubs in June who'll appear in deals til the end of the season.

My prediction is the 4 above plus an other out and the same number in.
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January on 20:49 - Dec 18 with 6152 views49thseason

I still haven't seen anything from Jordan Williams (11) that sets the pulse racing but I guess he is on a longer contract bearing in mind we paid money for him. Cannon is in and out of the team too often to give me confidence he will eventually prove to be a valuable member of the squad, he is becoming the new RNL. Ntlhe has shown us some glimpses of talent but then Bunney seems to have nailed down the left-back position provided someone (not Inman) plays in midfield to cover when he goes forward.
I guess I would like to see a centre-half (left sided) and a really quick forward who likes running at defenders more than anything. I hoped the forward would be Done but I am yet to see him put in a shift anything like the ones from his previous spell. If there is a 24-year-old Perkins anywhere, please go and sign him Keith.
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January on 21:01 - Dec 18 with 6132 viewsrochdaleriddler

January on 20:49 - Dec 18 by 49thseason

I still haven't seen anything from Jordan Williams (11) that sets the pulse racing but I guess he is on a longer contract bearing in mind we paid money for him. Cannon is in and out of the team too often to give me confidence he will eventually prove to be a valuable member of the squad, he is becoming the new RNL. Ntlhe has shown us some glimpses of talent but then Bunney seems to have nailed down the left-back position provided someone (not Inman) plays in midfield to cover when he goes forward.
I guess I would like to see a centre-half (left sided) and a really quick forward who likes running at defenders more than anything. I hoped the forward would be Done but I am yet to see him put in a shift anything like the ones from his previous spell. If there is a 24-year-old Perkins anywhere, please go and sign him Keith.
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I think done is putting a shift in. It it's not coming off for him. He is playing too deep

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January on 22:38 - Dec 18 with 6032 viewsrobtheb

January on 20:49 - Dec 18 by 49thseason

I still haven't seen anything from Jordan Williams (11) that sets the pulse racing but I guess he is on a longer contract bearing in mind we paid money for him. Cannon is in and out of the team too often to give me confidence he will eventually prove to be a valuable member of the squad, he is becoming the new RNL. Ntlhe has shown us some glimpses of talent but then Bunney seems to have nailed down the left-back position provided someone (not Inman) plays in midfield to cover when he goes forward.
I guess I would like to see a centre-half (left sided) and a really quick forward who likes running at defenders more than anything. I hoped the forward would be Done but I am yet to see him put in a shift anything like the ones from his previous spell. If there is a 24-year-old Perkins anywhere, please go and sign him Keith.
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Rotherham's Clarke-Evans, sub more than a starter. Suppose to have some pace.
Was out for some time with an injury but worked his way back.

According to a Millers fiend of mine, could be worth a loan.
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January on 00:52 - Dec 19 with 5942 viewskiwidale

January on 20:29 - Dec 18 by macro

Reece Brown unless he's injured seems to have vanished off the face of the earth. Paid off
MJ Williams injured - loan finished
Slew will be released I'd imagine
Then there's Canavan who with Keane return to fitness will hardly feature.

So that's 4 wages freed.

As for players in, Shrewsbury have used the loan system well, maybe there's a couple of decent additions on loan and I'm sure they'll be a couple of players who know they'll be released by their current clubs in June who'll appear in deals til the end of the season.

My prediction is the 4 above plus an other out and the same number in.


Its hard to make a case for brown makes you wonder how KH played him ahead of Rafferty at start of season surely just a case of Hill wanting to be proved right... piss poor signing

M J Williams is here for another 18 months has shown glimpses but dosn't get enough game time to show what he is capable of and remember how long it took Bunney to adjust from non leauge... good enough for the bench.

Slew another not given a chance Hill obviously does not see enough from him to give him a start so we will never know... I feel sorry for the lad TBH

Canavan looks like he will be released at end of his contract good for both parties if he finds another club maybe loaned out.

Cannon major disapointment but hardly played in a run of games.. might be best to loan him out in hope he comes good if not can see him being released at end of contract.

Hill has failed to address the mess in defence since O'connell left mcgahey being the one central defender that looks like he will go on to have a career desperately needs a seasoned pro alongside him then watch him flourish.

All just my opinion having never watched them play.

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January on 07:14 - Dec 19 with 5855 viewsTVOS1907

January on 00:52 - Dec 19 by kiwidale

Its hard to make a case for brown makes you wonder how KH played him ahead of Rafferty at start of season surely just a case of Hill wanting to be proved right... piss poor signing

M J Williams is here for another 18 months has shown glimpses but dosn't get enough game time to show what he is capable of and remember how long it took Bunney to adjust from non leauge... good enough for the bench.

Slew another not given a chance Hill obviously does not see enough from him to give him a start so we will never know... I feel sorry for the lad TBH

Canavan looks like he will be released at end of his contract good for both parties if he finds another club maybe loaned out.

Cannon major disapointment but hardly played in a run of games.. might be best to loan him out in hope he comes good if not can see him being released at end of contract.

Hill has failed to address the mess in defence since O'connell left mcgahey being the one central defender that looks like he will go on to have a career desperately needs a seasoned pro alongside him then watch him flourish.

All just my opinion having never watched them play.


Rafferty was injured during pre-season, so wasn’t match fit as the campaign started.

MJ Williams is the lad on loan from Liverpool. He’s suffered an injury and has returned to Anfield for treatment. The other Williams is the lad from Barrow.

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January on 07:35 - Dec 19 with 5841 viewsNigeriamark

Minimum of 2 on loan

Centre half & pacy goal scoring striker ( I would accept 1 in 4 scoring ratio if they were also assisting & bringing others into the game). However the latter will be very difficult to attract to Dale but if they keep us up may be worth paying 5 months of good money assuming their home club would also chip in and look for game time for them. Our big advantage is that a club looking to bring someone on knows that Hilly will give them game time rather than sit them on the bench
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January on 11:04 - Dec 19 with 5641 viewsDaleFan7

The difference with this window is, Hill has never really been in a position where he's been struggling in January. He must know something needs to happen and someone needs to come in, whether it's to feature and contribute massively on the pitch or just to give the whole squad a lift. We're in trouble if we can't add to the squad in January.

Obviously this is completely dependent on who is available/we can attract both as signings of our own or loan players. This is what the manager is paid to do and hopefully we'll see some movement inwards.
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January on 12:06 - Dec 19 with 5569 viewsColDale

Would David Perkins be an option?

Not really catching at Wigan, got six months left on his deal there and with more than an eye on the Championship, he's not exactly in their long term plans. I know he's 35 now so would go against the typical Hill signing but we know what we're getting with him.
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January on 13:23 - Dec 19 with 5426 viewsVivaDonaldo

I would suspect key areas to recruit in would be;

Centre Half/LB cover
Centre forward

I think that we're well stocked in Midfield and see this as the area Keane is likely to step into once he is back further bolstering the numbers.

Trouble is in January you're unlikely to pick up someone in the best of circumstances. We don't have the money or the attraction as a club to pluck a well performing player from even the tier below us and would likely have to either do our shopping in non-league or...

As some have suggested we look at players who's deals are running out in the summer. Players who perhaps are on the periphery of their respective squads and need the game time. Well worth the gamble on a try before you buy deal. Would imagine Hilly has a hit list and a preferred order and would expect us to get our business done as early as possible in Jan as we need to get the squad settled in for the back end of the season.
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January on 13:39 - Dec 19 with 5387 viewsDale92

January on 12:06 - Dec 19 by ColDale

Would David Perkins be an option?

Not really catching at Wigan, got six months left on his deal there and with more than an eye on the Championship, he's not exactly in their long term plans. I know he's 35 now so would go against the typical Hill signing but we know what we're getting with him.


Surely his legs will be gone now? For me its a left centre back,winger and striker. Our midfield has to many people in it already if you include Morley and Adshead who will more than likely feature if we reach a position of safety. Williams from Barrow seems to have disappeared and apart from Done we have no really striker because Davies has the same fitness levels of Steve Evans. KK will be a real boost but for me Hilly will surely have to sell to buy? The squad is massive with players that barely feature

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January on 13:40 - Dec 19 with 5386 viewsChaffRAFC

January on 12:06 - Dec 19 by ColDale

Would David Perkins be an option?

Not really catching at Wigan, got six months left on his deal there and with more than an eye on the Championship, he's not exactly in their long term plans. I know he's 35 now so would go against the typical Hill signing but we know what we're getting with him.


For me, he'd be a great short term option. We've been found wanting in midfield a lot this season and if an old head with bags of experience can come in and help us stay up then great.

I'd look at O'Grady perhaps in January as well for similar reasons.

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January on 14:08 - Dec 19 with 5349 viewsTVOS1907

January on 13:39 - Dec 19 by Dale92

Surely his legs will be gone now? For me its a left centre back,winger and striker. Our midfield has to many people in it already if you include Morley and Adshead who will more than likely feature if we reach a position of safety. Williams from Barrow seems to have disappeared and apart from Done we have no really striker because Davies has the same fitness levels of Steve Evans. KK will be a real boost but for me Hilly will surely have to sell to buy? The squad is massive with players that barely feature


Williams has come on as a sub in the last two games.

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January on 14:13 - Dec 19 with 5343 viewskiwidale

January on 07:14 - Dec 19 by TVOS1907

Rafferty was injured during pre-season, so wasn’t match fit as the campaign started.

MJ Williams is the lad on loan from Liverpool. He’s suffered an injury and has returned to Anfield for treatment. The other Williams is the lad from Barrow.


I stand corrected I wouldn't know one Williams from the other if they were stood in front of me and anyway as as been pointed out IKFAAF IKFAAC in fact IKFAAA.

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January on 22:01 - Dec 20 with 4961 viewspnc4eva1

Bury fans are compiling their wishlist. One fan has quoted that Tom Heaton could be a possible loan move

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January on 01:16 - Dec 21 with 4885 viewskiwidale

January on 22:01 - Dec 20 by pnc4eva1

Bury fans are compiling their wishlist. One fan has quoted that Tom Heaton could be a possible loan move


I would expect Burnley to pay his wages.... diluted or what?

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January on 08:47 - Dec 21 with 4757 viewsKenBoon

January on 22:01 - Dec 20 by pnc4eva1

Bury fans are compiling their wishlist. One fan has quoted that Tom Heaton could be a possible loan move


tbf someone here suggested Scott Hogan as a loan wish.

We need new defenders, strikers and a rough captain who can run a team that's playing hoofball. However I expect us to sell Camps and prepare for relegation in February like last time.
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January on 17:51 - Dec 21 with 4562 views100notout

January on 22:01 - Dec 20 by pnc4eva1

Bury fans are compiling their wishlist. One fan has quoted that Tom Heaton could be a possible loan move


Heard earlier that Jermaine Beckford is out for the season.

Time to get that rubber cheque book out again Stewie!!!!!!!

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January on 18:10 - Dec 21 with 4530 viewsYorkshire_Dale

January on 17:51 - Dec 21 by 100notout

Heard earlier that Jermaine Beckford is out for the season.

Time to get that rubber cheque book out again Stewie!!!!!!!


At least they have Dawson set to return in NY.

He would have been ideal at this juncture,for us.
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January on 18:13 - Dec 21 with 4528 viewsD_Alien

January on 17:51 - Dec 21 by 100notout

Heard earlier that Jermaine Beckford is out for the season.

Time to get that rubber cheque book out again Stewie!!!!!!!


http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/42442429

Expect he'll be relieved not to have the hassle of a relegation dogfight in 2018; not what he was promised when signing up

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January on 19:12 - Dec 21 with 4451 views442Dale

The reaction to this Beckford injury is very, very special indeed. They're really good at virtual player collecting; the messageboard equivalent of Lee Clark and Flitcroft having their own personal forum. Count how many people are in the squad first...

And it's quite magnificent how David Ball is suddenly considered as a shrewd move, a player who has been the spectacularly average most weeks throughout his career. It'd be much like if they signed Harry Bunn.

Ah.

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January on 19:31 - Dec 21 with 4424 viewsnordenblue

January on 18:10 - Dec 21 by Yorkshire_Dale

At least they have Dawson set to return in NY.

He would have been ideal at this juncture,for us.


Dawson was in the lounge for the Peterborough home game thinking back too for some reason
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January on 20:08 - Dec 21 with 4379 views100notout

January on 19:31 - Dec 21 by nordenblue

Dawson was in the lounge for the Peterborough home game thinking back too for some reason


Probably doing a bit of scouting for their game on saturday

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January on 22:08 - Dec 21 with 4288 viewsTVOS1907

January on 08:47 - Dec 21 by KenBoon

tbf someone here suggested Scott Hogan as a loan wish.

We need new defenders, strikers and a rough captain who can run a team that's playing hoofball. However I expect us to sell Camps and prepare for relegation in February like last time.


I wouldn't take the Hogan suggestion too seriously.

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