| McDonald's workers to strike! 08:34 - Aug 19 with 12561 views | jackportis |
Want £10 per hour. Not bad for a spotty teenager or immigrant for flipping greasy burgers.JP suggests looking for a job that pays this not demand from your current employer. |  |
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| McDonald's workers to strike! on 21:36 - Aug 19 with 1474 views | Neath_Jack |
| McDonald's workers to strike! on 21:29 - Aug 19 by jack247 |
In some ways, he's my favourite poster.
As an aside, I'm not knocking people who work there in any way, just think they need to look outside McDonalds, or to try to progress within the company if they want to earn more money. |
What about the people that genuinely enjoy working there, as a burger flipper, or whatever they are called?
I work in Civil Engineering and we have blokes who are more than happy to plod along at the bottom of the ladder, digging holes, fetching and carrying all day, in all weathers. Some of those, who despite not having any academic qualifications, could do well for themselves and probably reach middle management. But they don't bother because they don't want the responsibility and hassle that goes with it, they do their job, clock out at the end of the day and forget about things. Does that mean they should never want or ask for a pay rise? |  |
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| McDonald's workers to strike! on 21:38 - Aug 19 with 1472 views | E20Jack |
| McDonald's workers to strike! on 21:29 - Aug 19 by jack247 |
In some ways, he's my favourite poster.
As an aside, I'm not knocking people who work there in any way, just think they need to look outside McDonalds, or to try to progress within the company if they want to earn more money. |
Of course not. I just think people are a bit entitled these days. Feel they are owed something in life.
I was a paperboy for the Evening Post many moons ago (20 years maybe). Think I got £12 a week plus tips (usually 20p here and there from the customers once a week). I used to walk miles. I never once thought ''hang on, I am working hard here, I want to be paid the same as that fireman risking his life that just whizzed past me''.
I knew my place in the work arena, knew it was a low paid job and knew that it was a means to an end. Nothing wrong with working in Mcdonalds at all, or any near minimum pay jobs. Someone has to do them. But that kind of work should not be subsidised or topped up just because they want more, it is what it is, its a bottom of the scale job.
If McDonalds non skilled labor workers get £10 an hour (a massive collective workforce) then other non skilled workers will want the same. The pressure put on small businesses would be massive. Then those firefighters etc will want to be paid more than McDonalds burger flippers, ambulance men will think ''im only getting paid a couple of quid more than a burger flipper now'' - the knock on effect will be awful for the economy and will essentially end up in not being a payrise at all as everything goes up in price to accommodate for it. [Post edited 19 Aug 2017 21:47]
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| McDonald's workers to strike! on 21:42 - Aug 19 with 1459 views | Neath_Jack |
| McDonald's workers to strike! on 21:38 - Aug 19 by E20Jack |
Of course not. I just think people are a bit entitled these days. Feel they are owed something in life.
I was a paperboy for the Evening Post many moons ago (20 years maybe). Think I got £12 a week plus tips (usually 20p here and there from the customers once a week). I used to walk miles. I never once thought ''hang on, I am working hard here, I want to be paid the same as that fireman risking his life that just whizzed past me''.
I knew my place in the work arena, knew it was a low paid job and knew that it was a means to an end. Nothing wrong with working in Mcdonalds at all, or any near minimum pay jobs. Someone has to do them. But that kind of work should not be subsidised or topped up just because they want more, it is what it is, its a bottom of the scale job.
If McDonalds non skilled labor workers get £10 an hour (a massive collective workforce) then other non skilled workers will want the same. The pressure put on small businesses would be massive. Then those firefighters etc will want to be paid more than McDonalds burger flippers, ambulance men will think ''im only getting paid a couple of quid more than a burger flipper now'' - the knock on effect will be awful for the economy and will essentially end up in not being a payrise at all as everything goes up in price to accommodate for it. [Post edited 19 Aug 2017 21:47]
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You were definitely doing something wrong with your paper round wuss. I was doing the EP round 30 years ago and was earning at least £30, i sold that round for £100. | |
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| McDonald's workers to strike! on 21:45 - Aug 19 with 1454 views | E20Jack |
| McDonald's workers to strike! on 21:42 - Aug 19 by Neath_Jack |
You were definitely doing something wrong with your paper round wuss. I was doing the EP round 30 years ago and was earning at least £30, i sold that round for £100. |
I guess you had a bigger area to cover than me or were maybe older? Either way I just got on with the job and accepted it for what it was. I knew if I wanted a better job in the future then I would have to work for it, I certainly wouldn't expect to hold the EP to ransom to pay me skilled worker wages for what is essentially a monkeys job. | |
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| McDonald's workers to strike! on 21:46 - Aug 19 with 1450 views | exiledclaseboy |
I had a bacon muffin from Penllergaer McDonald's this morning. It was horrible. It's ironic though that we constantly lecture aspiration and tell people to do what they can to make the best of themselves but when a group of people try to get a bit more cash for the job that they do we tell them to know their place and be thankful for what they've got. If McDonald's workers can get themselves £10 an hour then good luck to them. I earn significantly more than that (as I'm sure do many if not most in here) and my job brings far less pleasure to many more people. [Post edited 19 Aug 2017 21:48]
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| McDonald's workers to strike! on 21:48 - Aug 19 with 1443 views | jack247 |
| McDonald's workers to strike! on 21:36 - Aug 19 by Neath_Jack |
What about the people that genuinely enjoy working there, as a burger flipper, or whatever they are called?
I work in Civil Engineering and we have blokes who are more than happy to plod along at the bottom of the ladder, digging holes, fetching and carrying all day, in all weathers. Some of those, who despite not having any academic qualifications, could do well for themselves and probably reach middle management. But they don't bother because they don't want the responsibility and hassle that goes with it, they do their job, clock out at the end of the day and forget about things. Does that mean they should never want or ask for a pay rise? |
I'm not saying anyone should have to try to better themselves. What I am saying, is if you're in a minimum wage job (which I'm assuming some people in McDonalds are) and you're happy in your job, then great. If you want to earn more money, then great as well, apply for other jobs. You can't have it both ways. |  | | |
| McDonald's workers to strike! on 21:49 - Aug 19 with 1433 views | E20Jack |
| McDonald's workers to strike! on 21:46 - Aug 19 by exiledclaseboy |
I had a bacon muffin from Penllergaer McDonald's this morning. It was horrible. It's ironic though that we constantly lecture aspiration and tell people to do what they can to make the best of themselves but when a group of people try to get a bit more cash for the job that they do we tell them to know their place and be thankful for what they've got. If McDonald's workers can get themselves £10 an hour then good luck to them. I earn significantly more than that (as I'm sure do many if not most in here) and my job brings far less pleasure to many more people. [Post edited 19 Aug 2017 21:48]
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Absolutely people are told to better themselves. But not by going on strike to make their low aspiration unskilled labour job as well paid as other peoples skilled labour job - better themselves by getting skilled work.
But you know that you naughty boy. | |
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| McDonald's workers to strike! on 21:51 - Aug 19 with 1427 views | exiledclaseboy |
| McDonald's workers to strike! on 21:49 - Aug 19 by E20Jack |
Absolutely people are told to better themselves. But not by going on strike to make their low aspiration unskilled labour job as well paid as other peoples skilled labour job - better themselves by getting skilled work.
But you know that you naughty boy. |
£10 an hour for skilled labour? You reckon? | |
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| McDonald's workers to strike! on 21:51 - Aug 19 with 1427 views | Neath_Jack |
| McDonald's workers to strike! on 21:48 - Aug 19 by jack247 |
I'm not saying anyone should have to try to better themselves. What I am saying, is if you're in a minimum wage job (which I'm assuming some people in McDonalds are) and you're happy in your job, then great. If you want to earn more money, then great as well, apply for other jobs. You can't have it both ways. |
That's an absolutely bonkers attitude, and we are never in a million years going to agree. Are you a business owner by any chance? You've got a really mean outlook on people on minimum wage jobs.
I cannot get my head around you thinking that people should be happy with their lot and just accept what is given to them. | |
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| McDonald's workers to strike! on 21:51 - Aug 19 with 1424 views | Eilian |
| McDonald's workers to strike! on 20:25 - Aug 19 by WarwickHunt |
"It boils down to the fact that if everyone in McDonalds was paid £10 per hour, then a big mac would cost £20."
I think they're currently on about £7 per hour.
A Big Mac is about £14 then. Correct? |
A Large Big Mac extra Value Meal is £4.89 btw
The average age of a McDonalds employee in the Uk is 20
There fore they would be currently be earning £5.60 ph
They would be in line for an 80% pay rise....
Ask your boss on Monday what would happen to the company if labour costs went up by 80% It's just basic economics. | | | |
| McDonald's workers to strike! on 21:53 - Aug 19 with 1422 views | Darran |
| McDonald's workers to strike! on 21:42 - Aug 19 by Neath_Jack |
You were definitely doing something wrong with your paper round wuss. I was doing the EP round 30 years ago and was earning at least £30, i sold that round for £100. |
I had a Sunday round with Pugsleys in the Ferry earned a fortune.
Can you remember that place? |  |
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| McDonald's workers to strike! on 21:54 - Aug 19 with 1417 views | jack2jack |
| McDonald's workers to strike! on 21:36 - Aug 19 by Neath_Jack |
What about the people that genuinely enjoy working there, as a burger flipper, or whatever they are called?
I work in Civil Engineering and we have blokes who are more than happy to plod along at the bottom of the ladder, digging holes, fetching and carrying all day, in all weathers. Some of those, who despite not having any academic qualifications, could do well for themselves and probably reach middle management. But they don't bother because they don't want the responsibility and hassle that goes with it, they do their job, clock out at the end of the day and forget about things. Does that mean they should never want or ask for a pay rise? |
If you looked up civil engineering in the yellow pages it said see Boring,true,don't know if they've changed it now  |  | | |
| McDonald's workers to strike! on 21:56 - Aug 19 with 1412 views | E20Jack |
| McDonald's workers to strike! on 21:51 - Aug 19 by exiledclaseboy |
£10 an hour for skilled labour? You reckon? |
Aye, obviously the scale is massive but I would imagine a fair amount would be on £10-£12 p/h. I would be well p*ssed off if me working hard to get a skill resulted in me getting the same amount as if I would have just worked wiping tables down in McDonalds... I guess we would then go on strike. | |
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| McDonald's workers to strike! on 21:58 - Aug 19 with 1400 views | Neath_Jack |
| McDonald's workers to strike! on 21:54 - Aug 19 by jack2jack |
If you looked up civil engineering in the yellow pages it said see Boring,true,don't know if they've changed it now |
Now i know you done a winky smile thing, but do you know what civil engineering is? You wouldn't be sat in that stadium without it mun. Best industry in the world, behind porn and cocaine smuggling. | |
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| McDonald's workers to strike! on 21:58 - Aug 19 with 1400 views | Humpty |
Low paid workers are trying to get a pay increase.
People totally unconnected to the situation are annoyed about it.
WTF is that all about? |  | | |
| McDonald's workers to strike! on 21:59 - Aug 19 with 1394 views | Neath_Jack |
| McDonald's workers to strike! on 21:53 - Aug 19 by Darran |
I had a Sunday round with Pugsleys in the Ferry earned a fortune.
Can you remember that place? |
Opposite Midlands bank? | |
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| McDonald's workers to strike! on 22:02 - Aug 19 with 1386 views | E20Jack |
An Ambulance care assistant gets £17,000 a year...works out at about £8.50 an hour based on a 40 hour week. Thats a generous estimate too, I rounded the hourly rate up.
So it's not being not connected with it,its about realising the situation and seeing it as ridiculous. 21k a year for wiping tables down in McDonalds would be a travesty. Not far off our policemen and women that is it? [Post edited 19 Aug 2017 22:05]
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| McDonald's workers to strike! on 22:02 - Aug 19 with 1382 views | jack247 |
| McDonald's workers to strike! on 21:51 - Aug 19 by Neath_Jack |
That's an absolutely bonkers attitude, and we are never in a million years going to agree. Are you a business owner by any chance? You've got a really mean outlook on people on minimum wage jobs.
I cannot get my head around you thinking that people should be happy with their lot and just accept what is given to them. |
No I'm not and that's nowhere near what I said.
The people you described in your previous post who could have quite easily progressed in your industry but have decided they are happy on the tools have 'accepted what's given to them'. That's their choice. They could have been promoted and ended up with a job they didn't enjoy nearly as much. All credit to them for choosing not to.
Where is becomes bonkers is the implication that those guys should be able to carry on 'plodding along at the bottom of the ladder' and getting paid as if they had reached middle management, even though they didn't want want the hassle and responsibility.
I'd like a pay rise too, I'd guess most would, but I'm not about to strike over it.
There's nothing mean about that, it's just common sense. | | | |
| McDonald's workers to strike! on 22:03 - Aug 19 with 1381 views | jack2jack |
| McDonald's workers to strike! on 21:58 - Aug 19 by Neath_Jack |
Now i know you done a winky smile thing, but do you know what civil engineering is? You wouldn't be sat in that stadium without it mun. Best industry in the world, behind porn and cocaine smuggling. |
I know mun iam a Civil Engineer 30 years plus | | | |
| McDonald's workers to strike! on 22:07 - Aug 19 with 1360 views | Neath_Jack |
| McDonald's workers to strike! on 22:02 - Aug 19 by jack247 |
No I'm not and that's nowhere near what I said.
The people you described in your previous post who could have quite easily progressed in your industry but have decided they are happy on the tools have 'accepted what's given to them'. That's their choice. They could have been promoted and ended up with a job they didn't enjoy nearly as much. All credit to them for choosing not to.
Where is becomes bonkers is the implication that those guys should be able to carry on 'plodding along at the bottom of the ladder' and getting paid as if they had reached middle management, even though they didn't want want the hassle and responsibility.
I'd like a pay rise too, I'd guess most would, but I'm not about to strike over it.
There's nothing mean about that, it's just common sense. |
Just because someone is at the bottom of the ladder, and actually enjoy doing that job, and take pride in doing that job, does not mean they cannot ask for extra money. If they believe they are worth more, then it's also their right to strike. It's that simple. | |
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| McDonald's workers to strike! on 22:08 - Aug 19 with 1357 views | Neath_Jack |
| McDonald's workers to strike! on 22:03 - Aug 19 by jack2jack |
I know mun iam a Civil Engineer 30 years plus |
You deserve a pay rise then! | |
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| McDonald's workers to strike! on 22:09 - Aug 19 with 1349 views | jack2jack |
| McDonald's workers to strike! on 22:08 - Aug 19 by Neath_Jack |
You deserve a pay rise then! |
So do you!  | | | |
| McDonald's workers to strike! on 22:09 - Aug 19 with 1349 views | exiledclaseboy |
| McDonald's workers to strike! on 21:58 - Aug 19 by Neath_Jack |
Now i know you done a winky smile thing, but do you know what civil engineering is? You wouldn't be sat in that stadium without it mun. Best industry in the world, behind porn and cocaine smuggling. |
And the civil service. Obvs. | |
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| McDonald's workers to strike! on 22:10 - Aug 19 with 1344 views | E20Jack |
| McDonald's workers to strike! on 22:07 - Aug 19 by Neath_Jack |
Just because someone is at the bottom of the ladder, and actually enjoy doing that job, and take pride in doing that job, does not mean they cannot ask for extra money. If they believe they are worth more, then it's also their right to strike. It's that simple. |
Its not about them being worth more as people, its about the job being worth more. If Mother Teresa was alive and decided to work in McDonalds I still dont think she should be getting 21k a year and more than Ambulance drivers and paramedic assistants. [Post edited 19 Aug 2017 22:11]
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| McDonald's workers to strike! on 22:11 - Aug 19 with 1341 views | Neath_Jack |
| McDonald's workers to strike! on 22:09 - Aug 19 by jack2jack |
So do you! |
Fancy starting a strike? I'll bring the 45 gallon drums. | |
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