| Rochdale Online coverage 12:04 - Feb 7 with 9178 views | dawlishdale |
Why is the coverage of Dale so poor on Rochdale Online?
They seem very capable of publicising sporting events in the town (particularly Hornets, for example) but seem loath to offer much in the way of positive publicity about the football.
This weekend for example, there was an excellent item (together with photos and video links) about Hornets following their fantastic win.
Dale, on the other hand, hardly warranted anything... a short item which in its first papragraph moans at the lack of quality on show and also points out the poor pitch. No photographs, and no positivity whatsoever, unless you count us losing our play off position as positive. No mention of our long list of injured players, or any other mitigating circumstances.
Do they even send someone along. After all, we are the premier professional sporting club in the Borough. It doesn't look like they can be bothered. |  | | |  |
| Rochdale Online coverage on 12:08 - Feb 7 with 7314 views | rod_leach |
I've often wondered the same thing. I wonder if its easier to get closer to the Hornets with them not being covered by agreements in the same way the football league is? Bury get great coverage from the Bury times, but I guess they are a bigger operation than RO. |  | | |
| Rochdale Online coverage on 13:53 - Feb 7 with 7158 views | DySporting |
It comes down to money, the Bury Times will pay for photos - the Ob since being taken over won’t.
Online used to have a photographer accredited but that has lapsed. I assume there’s a financial aspect with online as well and they won’t/can’t afford to pay. | | | |
| Rochdale Online coverage on 17:21 - Feb 7 with 6906 views | mingthemerciless |
The lady who does the photography at Hornets is very enthusiastic and energetic. She puts a lot of effort into publicising the club for not much reward, it could well be she doesn't get paid at all as far as I know.
Hard work can take you a long way at the lower levels of sport. | | | |
| Rochdale Online coverage on 20:42 - Feb 7 with 6707 views | Joc1967 |
| Rochdale Online coverage on 17:21 - Feb 7 by mingthemerciless |
The lady who does the photography at Hornets is very enthusiastic and energetic. She puts a lot of effort into publicising the club for not much reward, it could well be she doesn't get paid at all as far as I know.
Hard work can take you a long way at the lower levels of sport. |
Hi I'm that enthusiastic lady! Thanks for the compliment. i do work hard to promote the hornets as I feel part of the hornets family. I send my images to Rochdale online to promote the club. Rochdale football Club should pay a photographer to do the same. Thanks Sports Tog | | | |
| Rochdale Online coverage on 20:55 - Feb 7 with 6689 views | TVOS1907 |
| Rochdale Online coverage on 20:42 - Feb 7 by Joc1967 |
Hi I'm that enthusiastic lady! Thanks for the compliment. i do work hard to promote the hornets as I feel part of the hornets family. I send my images to Rochdale online to promote the club. Rochdale football Club should pay a photographer to do the same. Thanks Sports Tog |
Why?
The club's official photographer has his images posted on the club's website, Facebook and Twitter, all of which are freely available online. They are also in the match programme.
Rochdale Online and the Rochdale Observer are independent of the club and they should pay for images, if they want any, not the other way round. |  |
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| Rochdale Online coverage on 20:58 - Feb 7 with 6680 views | D_Alien |
| Rochdale Online coverage on 20:55 - Feb 7 by TVOS1907 |
Why?
The club's official photographer has his images posted on the club's website, Facebook and Twitter, all of which are freely available online. They are also in the match programme.
Rochdale Online and the Rochdale Observer are independent of the club and they should pay for images, if they want any, not the other way round. |
Plus, there's a difference in tone adopted by Rochdale Online when referring to Dale and Hornets - as someone posted earlier, it's more positive for Hornets
That can't be accounted for purely due to someone submitting photographs |  |
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| Rochdale Online coverage on 21:05 - Feb 7 with 6665 views | TVOS1907 |
| Rochdale Online coverage on 20:58 - Feb 7 by D_Alien |
Plus, there's a difference in tone adopted by Rochdale Online when referring to Dale and Hornets - as someone posted earlier, it's more positive for Hornets
That can't be accounted for purely due to someone submitting photographs |
I wouldn't know about that as I don't read the Hornets' stuff, but I'm sure you're right. | |
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| Rochdale Online coverage on 21:44 - Feb 7 with 6608 views | DySporting |
The Observer have photographers who have the correct paperwork to take photos. It’s their choice not to pay or send anyone. (That’s people at main office not local)
Rochdale Online used to have accreditation and have chosen not to renew it for their own reasons. They could quite easily get the correct paperwork and pay someone to attend, they choose not to.
Usually at each game there is at least 1 person from an agency attending and again both could buy from them but they choose not to.
I don’t know how many people use Rochdale Online but with all the social media etc, I’d guess that the Football Club get more hits than online. It’d be a waste of money to supply them when Online could organise someone to volunteer for them or get their own licence. [Post edited 7 Feb 2017 21:52]
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| Rochdale Online coverage on 22:51 - Feb 7 with 6521 views | rochedale |
| Rochdale Online coverage on 20:58 - Feb 7 by D_Alien |
Plus, there's a difference in tone adopted by Rochdale Online when referring to Dale and Hornets - as someone posted earlier, it's more positive for Hornets
That can't be accounted for purely due to someone submitting photographs |
Not sure how you get to that conclusion, as I know Claire at Rochdale Online is a massive Dale fan. |  |
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| Rochdale Online coverage on 22:59 - Feb 7 with 6503 views | D_Alien |
| Rochdale Online coverage on 22:51 - Feb 7 by rochedale |
Not sure how you get to that conclusion, as I know Claire at Rochdale Online is a massive Dale fan. |
And that makes... what difference, to the points that've been made so far in this thread?
What influence does 'Claire' have? | |
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| Rochdale Online coverage on 23:18 - Feb 7 with 6472 views | rochedale |
| Rochdale Online coverage on 22:59 - Feb 7 by D_Alien |
And that makes... what difference, to the points that've been made so far in this thread?
What influence does 'Claire' have? |
Not sure actually, she's only a director of the company. | |
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| Rochdale Online coverage on 23:20 - Feb 7 with 6464 views | D_Alien |
| Rochdale Online coverage on 23:18 - Feb 7 by rochedale |
Not sure actually, she's only a director of the company. |
How nice for her, maybe you could direct her to this thread? | |
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| Rochdale Online coverage on 23:23 - Feb 7 with 6444 views | rochedale |
| Rochdale Online coverage on 23:20 - Feb 7 by D_Alien |
How nice for her, maybe you could direct her to this thread? |
I intend to, be nice to hear her opinion. | |
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| Rochdale Online coverage on 23:33 - Feb 7 with 6425 views | D_Alien |
| Rochdale Online coverage on 23:23 - Feb 7 by rochedale |
I intend to, be nice to hear her opinion. |
And if Claire doesn't feel inclined to do so herself, maybe you could feed back to us what that opinion is? Including, responses to specific points about content raised in this thread? | |
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| Rochdale Online coverage on 08:40 - Feb 8 with 6264 views | mingthemerciless |
| Rochdale Online coverage on 20:42 - Feb 7 by Joc1967 |
Hi I'm that enthusiastic lady! Thanks for the compliment. i do work hard to promote the hornets as I feel part of the hornets family. I send my images to Rochdale online to promote the club. Rochdale football Club should pay a photographer to do the same. Thanks Sports Tog |
Thank you for delivering such high class work. The coverage you provide is extremely professional and a credit to you. | | | |
| Rochdale Online coverage on 09:51 - Feb 8 with 6206 views | jav14 |
| Rochdale Online coverage on 12:08 - Feb 7 by rod_leach |
I've often wondered the same thing. I wonder if its easier to get closer to the Hornets with them not being covered by agreements in the same way the football league is? Bury get great coverage from the Bury times, but I guess they are a bigger operation than RO. |
Sports Editor at Bury Times/Bolton Evening News is a Buckets fan. |  | | |
| Rochdale Online coverage on 10:45 - Feb 8 with 6157 views | KenBoon |
Considering the amount of content reporting on the AFC could create and how RO make money through advertisements, it's quite surprising that they're not even rehashing stores elsewhere or doing those annoying "How twitter reacted to..." articles. |  | | |
| Rochdale Online coverage on 18:16 - Feb 8 with 5992 views | pioneer |
| Rochdale Online coverage on 08:40 - Feb 8 by mingthemerciless |
Thank you for delivering such high class work. The coverage you provide is extremely professional and a credit to you. |
Interesting JOC works hard to promote the interests of Hornets and that is associated with good coverage. Maybe there is a message in there. Do we believe we can leave public relations to others? | | | |
| Rochdale Online coverage on 18:26 - Feb 8 with 5977 views | 442Dale |
| Rochdale Online coverage on 18:16 - Feb 8 by pioneer |
Interesting JOC works hard to promote the interests of Hornets and that is associated with good coverage. Maybe there is a message in there. Do we believe we can leave public relations to others? |
Dale's PR has been excellent in recent times. The Observer etc will only improve their coverage when more effort is put in on their behalf. |  |
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| Rochdale Online coverage on 19:26 - Feb 8 with 5926 views | TVOS1907 |
| Rochdale Online coverage on 18:16 - Feb 8 by pioneer |
Interesting JOC works hard to promote the interests of Hornets and that is associated with good coverage. Maybe there is a message in there. Do we believe we can leave public relations to others? |
There are plenty of people who work hard to promote the interests of Dale as well, in particular the new additions to the media, marketing and admin side of the club in recent years. | |
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| Rochdale Online coverage on 19:45 - Feb 8 with 5897 views | DySporting |
Leighanne, Frances, Russ and many more work tirelessly in promoting the football club. Leighanne in particular needs praise as she does this on her own when many clubs have 3 or 4 people doing her job. If online/ob wanted to join forces and support promoting Dale on top of what they do I'm sure they'd be welcomed.
The football club have 30 thousand more followers on twitter than the rugby club. They have 37 thousand more followers on Facebook than the rugby club. This suggests that what is being done by the club is effective. I'm sure the hornets appreciate their photos and coverage by the local press but the difference in numbers on Twitter /Facebook/official site mean Rochdale AFC have global coverage via their followers and actually want to expand the club outside just the borough. | | | |
| Rochdale Online coverage on 20:22 - Feb 8 with 5854 views | fitzochris |
The role of the club's media and marketing team is to promote the club, which they do very well.
The role of the local media is to report on the club's activity - and, if necessary, hold it to account. We don't have that. |  |
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| Rochdale Online coverage on 20:46 - Feb 8 with 5817 views | mingthemerciless |
| Rochdale Online coverage on 18:16 - Feb 8 by pioneer |
Interesting JOC works hard to promote the interests of Hornets and that is associated with good coverage. Maybe there is a message in there. Do we believe we can leave public relations to others? |
You only have to look at the quality of her action photographs. She captures the emotions of the players in a way that someone just turning up to do a job can't do. Only somebody with real ability and a sense of personal involvement can do that.
No I'm not related. in fact I don't really know her at all, I've just seen the work she does. [Post edited 8 Feb 2017 20:50]
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| Rochdale Online coverage on 20:49 - Feb 8 with 5809 views | TVOS1907 |
| Rochdale Online coverage on 20:46 - Feb 8 by mingthemerciless |
You only have to look at the quality of her action photographs. She captures the emotions of the players in a way that someone just turning up to do a job can't do. Only somebody with real ability and a sense of personal involvement can do that.
No I'm not related. in fact I don't really know her at all, I've just seen the work she does. [Post edited 8 Feb 2017 20:50]
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... somebody who the football club also have, who has been in the role for almost 20 years.
It seems someone is trying to create problems and divisions here. [Post edited 8 Feb 2017 20:50]
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| Rochdale Online coverage on 20:51 - Feb 8 with 5801 views | mingthemerciless |
| Rochdale Online coverage on 20:49 - Feb 8 by TVOS1907 |
... somebody who the football club also have, who has been in the role for almost 20 years.
It seems someone is trying to create problems and divisions here. [Post edited 8 Feb 2017 20:50]
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That's news to me. I have no idea who the football club employ as a photographer. | | | |
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