| DOF 14:59 - Feb 24 with 9529 views | The_Mole |
After watching TF recent interview for Sky Sports, moving forward, as we're no doubt writing off this season, the question is, do we really need a director of football to progress?
Forget whether you love or hate LF, is that position a bit of a waste when you have a hands on chairman/shareholders and supposedly the best CEO in the division? |  | | |  |
| DOF on 09:46 - Feb 25 with 2409 views | rsonist |
You may also find that the DoF model is somewhat vindicated by practically every football club that isn't British using it. |  | | |
| DOF on 10:20 - Feb 25 with 2378 views | daveB |
| DOF on 08:28 - Feb 25 by TheBlob |
Oh dear,another lecture on morality.Because one has gained respect as a player it doesn't necessarily follow into other enterprises - Gerry Francis found out that automatic deification doesn't happen.There's a huge amount of wish fulfillment here and there's not a lot of concrete proof. |
What sort of proof do you want? No one knows if it is going to work but the current set up has a better chance of longer term success as it is looking beyond the next ten minutes than it did before |  | | |
| DOF on 10:38 - Feb 25 with 2353 views | Jamie |
Whether you agree with DOFs in football or not, it's clear that QPR need somebody doing the day to day football administrative nonsense.
Gnanalingam is a respected CEO, but he's got no history in football. Hoos is respected in football but has far too much on with trying to fix the previous carnage. |  | | |
| DOF on 12:17 - Feb 25 with 2299 views | Deano19766 |
If only we could bring Big Jim (RIP) back from the grave....... | | | |
| DOF on 12:21 - Feb 25 with 2292 views | TheBlob |
| DOF on 10:20 - Feb 25 by daveB |
What sort of proof do you want? No one knows if it is going to work but the current set up has a better chance of longer term success as it is looking beyond the next ten minutes than it did before |
How do you know it's got a better chance of success?Based on what? |  |
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| DOF on 12:39 - Feb 25 with 2266 views | paulparker |
| DOF on 12:17 - Feb 25 by Deano19766 |
If only we could bring Big Jim (RIP) back from the grave....... |
He loved a deal did Jim, but he also got through a lot of managers Deano
apart from Perch, Toszer, and Ramsey Les has done more good than harm ,
its all about next season for us now , the last of the deadwood like Hoilett, Traore, Diaketi, Green, Henry will be gone , and we may be able to shift Phillips, Caulker, Fer, & Sandro add Angella & Konchesky and we will be looking at another new team
I think JFH has done well even if its unspectacular go back 20 odd years to when Gerry 1st came as manager , that season we had a bad start drew about 15 games on the bounce but finished strong , the season after is when the team came into its own
I see that happening here , I really think we will be much better next season
I trust JFH & les , its only uncle tone who can fcuk things up from here on in |  |
| And Bowles is onside, Swinburne has come rushing out of his goal , what can Bowles do here , onto the left foot no, on to the right foot
That’s there that’s two, and that’s Bowles
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| DOF on 13:08 - Feb 25 with 2228 views | Rangersw12 |
| DOF on 12:21 - Feb 25 by TheBlob |
How do you know it's got a better chance of success?Based on what? |
Based on the last 4 years
We bought expensive players on high wages which didn't work so we might aswell try getting younger players who see Rangers as a step up | | | |
| DOF on 13:12 - Feb 25 with 2223 views | TheBlob |
| DOF on 13:08 - Feb 25 by Rangersw12 |
Based on the last 4 years
We bought expensive players on high wages which didn't work so we might aswell try getting younger players who see Rangers as a step up |
Yup,signing that youngster Konchesky was a masterstroke,as was Perch... | |
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| DOF on 13:18 - Feb 25 with 2213 views | Neil_SI |
| DOF on 13:12 - Feb 25 by TheBlob |
Yup,signing that youngster Konchesky was a masterstroke,as was Perch... |
The idea behind that was to try and assemble a more experienced backline to help a younger and more inexperienced midfield and strike force. A perfectly reasonable approach, one that they thought would provide a solid backbone and platform, but one that on this occasion hasn't quite worked out at they would have liked.
That's one approach. An alternative to that is to try and build a strong spine, but that tends to be more expensive and more difficult to do as a result. |  | | |
| DOF on 13:26 - Feb 25 with 2192 views | BrianMcCarthy |
Yes, and I hope it's Ferdinand for a while yet. I think he's doing a good job al in all. |  |
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| DOF on 13:29 - Feb 25 with 2183 views | Rangersw12 |
| DOF on 13:12 - Feb 25 by TheBlob |
Yup,signing that youngster Konchesky was a masterstroke,as was Perch... |
What about Smithies , Hall , Washington , Luongo , Gladwin and Polter
Surely better signing those players than SWP , Bosingwa , Samba etc
It might not work but better to try it and keep within FFP and build a side than what we have done previously | | | |
| DOF on 13:29 - Feb 25 with 2182 views | daveB |
| DOF on 13:12 - Feb 25 by TheBlob |
Yup,signing that youngster Konchesky was a masterstroke,as was Perch... |
Well it was sign an experienced left back or go into the season without one as Traore, Yun and Robinson were all injured.He hasn't been all that but hasn't been a disaster either, just an average player to fill a gap for a few months. | | | |
| DOF on 13:34 - Feb 25 with 2168 views | YorkRanger |
In my view we are on a sensible journey to try to re-shape the team and the way that the club does its business. Many will be frustrated as progress will be slow and steady and there will be many setbacks along the way.
I can live with this. If it takes a couple more seasons in the Championship so be it.
We will along the way have signings that people question. We are not going to be able to do this just by picking up signings from League 1 and League 2. We will need some experience, some will work out and some will not - for every Konchesky there will hopefully be a Shaun Derry.
There will also be signings that look really solid on paper (e.g. James Perch, previously Wigan's player of the season) that may not work out. There will be signings (a la Paul Furlong) that take time to come to fruition and then there will be signings that people question the sanity of (e.g. Clint Hill) that prove a masterstroke.
Hopefully one or two of the youngsters will also break through.
It will be interesting. I'm actually quite excited by the prospect ahead - perhaps I've just finally lost my mind...
Its going to be interesting |  | | |
| DOF on 13:38 - Feb 25 with 2158 views | TheBlob |
| DOF on 13:29 - Feb 25 by daveB |
Well it was sign an experienced left back or go into the season without one as Traore, Yun and Robinson were all injured.He hasn't been all that but hasn't been a disaster either, just an average player to fill a gap for a few months. |
So the short term is suddenly quite acceptable?Get the idea now? [Post edited 25 Feb 2016 13:39]
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| DOF on 13:43 - Feb 25 with 2150 views | daveB |
| DOF on 13:38 - Feb 25 by TheBlob |
So the short term is suddenly quite acceptable?Get the idea now? [Post edited 25 Feb 2016 13:39]
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well you need to look at both short term and long term really rather than just one or the other. FFP means we can't go on just worrying about the first team from week to week signing players to fix short term problems all the time and signing a new squad every transfer window | | | |
| DOF on 13:55 - Feb 25 with 1991 views | WokingR |
Can I just say how refreshing it is to have some grown ups on here for a change
People actually discussing and responding to opposing views without any anger, abuse or threats. |  | | |
| DOF on 14:26 - Feb 25 with 1969 views | TheBlob |
| DOF on 13:55 - Feb 25 by WokingR |
Can I just say how refreshing it is to have some grown ups on here for a change
People actually discussing and responding to opposing views without any anger, abuse or threats. |
(I'm just playing Devil's Advocate here.This board's been dying on its feet lately  ) | |
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| DOF on 14:38 - Feb 25 with 1953 views | WokingR |
| DOF on 14:26 - Feb 25 by TheBlob |
(I'm just playing Devil's Advocate here.This board's been dying on its feet lately ) |
You know, I read every one of your posts and couldn't decide whether you were making a genuine case or just being bloody minded
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| DOF on 14:42 - Feb 25 with 1944 views | WilloW4 |
| DOF on 13:29 - Feb 25 by daveB |
Well it was sign an experienced left back or go into the season without one as Traore, Yun and Robinson were all injured.He hasn't been all that but hasn't been a disaster either, just an average player to fill a gap for a few months. |
Is Traore really injured? Then? Now? Whenever?.. I think even the Rangers hierarchy have just said 'sod it, let the boy run his contract down and he can bugger off'....Traore is one of the worst signings ever... He's on a par with Boswinga for me. |  | | |
| DOF on 14:47 - Feb 25 with 1937 views | TheBlob |
| DOF on 14:38 - Feb 25 by WokingR |
You know, I read every one of your posts and couldn't decide whether you were making a genuine case or just being bloody minded
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Genuine point about the DOF.I just see the post created for an individual after the intended purpose of the Sherwood/Ramsey/Ferdinand expected triumvirate didn't happen.
As for sniffing out so called new talent as justification as was mooted earlier....even I could have done that,it wasn't that complicated a process that needed an extra intermediary.That's what manager's assistants are supposed to do,this pecking order nonsense is going to end up like Denis Wise and Pardew if we're not careful. | |
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| DOF on 14:58 - Feb 25 with 1907 views | whittocksRs |
My feeling is we'll always struggle to find stability while Fernandes is an investor, as he has ambitions that a club of QPR's size will always struggle to reach. The next mad signing never feels far away, regardless of rhetoric and who is looking after the football.
That said, Les Ferdinand has come the closest out of anyone in TF's reign to bringing us back to a sensible, financially-viable footballing model. We've made a good number of good signings with sell-on value, a few unexpectedly bad ones (Perch, Toszer) and one or two stinkers (Konchesky). And LF has managed to get Fernandes to largely step away from the day-to-day decision-making, which is brilliant though not likely to last forever.
Lee Hoos is excellent at creating sustainable business plans and looking at the longer-term strategy. He's obviously begun with the wage structure and is doing a good job on that front. I don't know how long it will take him to improve the infrastructure of the club, but so far there's been no obvious efforts. But Hoos is no football man.
So, yes, we need people like Ferdinand looking after the football and creating a buffer between manager and a deluded boardroom.
However, I'm disappointed there's been so little faith placed in youth, especially as at least two of them have looked the part when trusted with games. That's as much Ferdinand's fault as anyone else's. | | | |
| DOF on 15:03 - Feb 25 with 1892 views | FredManRave |
| DOF on 14:26 - Feb 25 by TheBlob |
(I'm just playing Devil's Advocate here.This board's been dying on its feet lately ) |
Have you not seen the chocolate hostage thread?! |  |
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| DOF on 15:55 - Feb 25 with 1855 views | WilloW4 |
| DOF on 15:03 - Feb 25 by FredManRave |
Have you not seen the chocolate hostage thread?! |
"Realising the chocolate hostage"... Marvellous, who needs Shakespeare ?, we've got LFW..!! | | | |
| DOF on 16:06 - Feb 25 with 1845 views | vegasranger |
If Ferdinand has done a good job, what equates to a bad job? Most of the signings in the summer weren't up to much. We are still unbalanced and slow. Still don't have more that two strikers. Failed to get a decent fee for Austin, didn't do a great job on any of our high earners. They are probably all coming back to haunt us in the summer. What is this great new QPR philosophy? I understand things take time but his record is far from glowing. | | | |
| DOF on 17:27 - Feb 25 with 1778 views | daveB |
| DOF on 16:06 - Feb 25 by vegasranger |
If Ferdinand has done a good job, what equates to a bad job? Most of the signings in the summer weren't up to much. We are still unbalanced and slow. Still don't have more that two strikers. Failed to get a decent fee for Austin, didn't do a great job on any of our high earners. They are probably all coming back to haunt us in the summer. What is this great new QPR philosophy? I understand things take time but his record is far from glowing. |
Ferdinand is doing a good job as he has helped to change the club philosophy and brought common sense to the place. Some signings were good some were crap but that will always happen, the type of player we are going for though is now heading in the right direction. most of the signings are the nucleus of a new team now in Smithies, Hall, Luongo, and now Washingon and Nasser. Of the summer signings only Grobben on a free and Perch haven't really worked out and neither are the kind of financially crippling signings we've made in recent years.
The Austin thing is ridiculous now, how many times does it have to be explained. | | | |
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