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2,300 21:38 - Apr 14 with 11723 views

dilleydaler

Wakey Wakey. Big job for our Marketing Manager.

2,300 on 21:43 - Apr 14 with 7031 views

SuddenLad

FFS. Not this again.

Wigan and Blackpool will up the attendances next season. The same argument about attendances has been going on since 1970. Nothing new.

There were days not so long ago when 2344 on a Tuesday night would have had the bean-counters doing cartwheels around the edge of the pitch and lighting cigars to celebrate.

[Post edited 14 Apr 2015 21:49]

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2,300 on 21:50 - Apr 14 with 6958 views

roccydaleian

2,300 on 21:43 - Apr 14 by SuddenLad
FFS. Not this again. Wigan and Blackpool will up the attendances next season. The same argument about attendances has been going on since 1970. Nothing new. There were days not so long ago when 2344 on a Tuesday night would have had the bean-counters doing cartwheels around the edge of the pitch and lighting cigars to celebrate. [Post edited 14 Apr 2015 21:49]

Agreed, boring at the moment! Ffs, long way to go yet, and she's only been in the job a couple of weeks. Let's see what goes on now.

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2,300 on 21:54 - Apr 14 with 6913 views

Thacks_Rabbits

2,300 on 21:50 - Apr 14 by roccydaleian
Agreed, boring at the moment! Ffs, long way to go yet, and she's only been in the job a couple of weeks. Let's see what goes on now.

No way she can have influence this season. Unfair to expect that. Will be aimed at close season onwards - which is fair!!!

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2,300 on 21:59 - Apr 14 with 6848 views

dilleydaler

I'm just drawing attention to the size of the task. Even the dwarf Stelling was taking the p!ss out of our gates on SSS last week. Big job. Good luck with it.

2,300 on 22:00 - Apr 14 with 6836 views

442Dale

2,300 on 21:50 - Apr 14 by roccydaleian
Agreed, boring at the moment! Ffs, long way to go yet, and she's only been in the job a couple of weeks. Let's see what goes on now.

Nothing to do with the new marketing manager apart from her realising what a massive job she's got on.

Everyone else at the club should be looking at themselves rather than looking for excuses. Hearing someone mention the Champions League to supporters was depressing.

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Greatest Ever Dale Game

2,300 on 22:29 - Apr 14 with 6701 views

442Dale

Tuesday 15th April 2008, Dale in the playoff zone of the league below against Barnet at home, crowd 2925.

I'd doubt if Barnet had half as many fans as Swindon had tonight.

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2,300 on 22:41 - Apr 14 with 6628 views

D_Alien

2,300 on 22:29 - Apr 14 by 442Dale
Tuesday 15th April 2008, Dale in the playoff zone of the league below against Barnet at home, crowd 2925. I'd doubt if Barnet had half as many fans as Swindon had tonight.

I guess quite a few Daleys are getting bored with our success

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2,300 on 22:41 - Apr 14 with 6627 views

DomDale

2,300 on 21:43 - Apr 14 by SuddenLad
FFS. Not this again. Wigan and Blackpool will up the attendances next season. The same argument about attendances has been going on since 1970. Nothing new. There were days not so long ago when 2344 on a Tuesday night would have had the bean-counters doing cartwheels around the edge of the pitch and lighting cigars to celebrate. [Post edited 14 Apr 2015 21:49]

We're not propping up Div 4 anymore though.

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2,300 on 22:47 - Apr 14 with 6592 views

TTNYear

We were talking about this prior to the game, and I think some of you are in danger of heaping too much pressure on the new encumbent. I wonder whether it may be a job that's too big for one person.

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2,300 on 22:48 - Apr 14 with 6581 views

TVOS1907

2,300 on 22:29 - Apr 14 by 442Dale
Tuesday 15th April 2008, Dale in the playoff zone of the league below against Barnet at home, crowd 2925. I'd doubt if Barnet had half as many fans as Swindon had tonight.

63 Barnet fans that night

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2,300 on 22:50 - Apr 14 with 6557 views

JimmyRustler

2,300 on 22:29 - Apr 14 by 442Dale
Tuesday 15th April 2008, Dale in the playoff zone of the league below against Barnet at home, crowd 2925. I'd doubt if Barnet had half as many fans as Swindon had tonight.

It was all new back then though tbf.

Maybe the novelty of success has just worn off now and can't be matched by a few cans of Stella and watching highlights on the tube.

2,300 on 22:50 - Apr 14 with 6550 views

dilleydaler

2,300 on 22:47 - Apr 14 by TTNYear
We were talking about this prior to the game, and I think some of you are in danger of heaping too much pressure on the new encumbent. I wonder whether it may be a job that's too big for one person.

Paid to deal with pressure. Not up to it? Move on.

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2,300 on 22:51 - Apr 14 with 6534 views

TTNYear

2,300 on 22:50 - Apr 14 by dilleydaler
Paid to deal with pressure. Not up to it? Move on.

Oh dear...

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2,300 on 22:54 - Apr 14 with 6510 views

KenBoon

One of the things that really annoys me, is when news outlets use us as an example of having no success. The last 15 seasons have been bloody entertaining seasons.

We've seen a few relegation fights. A few boring typical Dale seasons but a heck of a lot of success. We had success under Parkin inc Playoffs. The playoffs with Hill including our first visit to Wembley. TWO promotions. Some brilliant games. Cup runs. The "No fear..." half-season. Some bloody fine players put on the shirt and more. In recent history - which is all that should matter - supporting Rochdale has seen more successful seasons than bad ones. We're a good club to follow, which makes the lack of marketing (one person doesn't fix this) even harder to swallow.

We're not shite-but-good-pies Rochdale any more. We play good Football. We SHOULD have more fans. Our attendances are pathetic for what we serve up on the pitch, and its down to the club. It's no co-incidence that in an era of hype, marketing and family friendly football, we've failed hard.

To return to my original moan. To any news outlets wanting a 'dale fan to talk about misery/unsuccessful club, my answer is to f**k off and do some more f**king research.

2,300 on 22:55 - Apr 14 with 6486 views

D_Alien

2,300 on 22:47 - Apr 14 by TTNYear
We were talking about this prior to the game, and I think some of you are in danger of heaping too much pressure on the new encumbent. I wonder whether it may be a job that's too big for one person.

Any improvement on the marketing front will be welcome, but it's about changing the atmosphere around the club in the way it engages with the town and the potential support rather than one person pulling their tripe out. I know you didn't say that's what it was, I'm just adding to the point.

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2,300 on 22:56 - Apr 14 with 6475 views

442Dale

2,300 on 22:47 - Apr 14 by TTNYear
We were talking about this prior to the game, and I think some of you are in danger of heaping too much pressure on the new encumbent. I wonder whether it may be a job that's too big for one person.

Agreed, it requires everyone, including supporters, to assist the new member of staff.

There has to be a complete shift in mindset amongst some.

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Greatest Ever Dale Game

2,300 on 22:57 - Apr 14 with 6454 views

TVOS1907

2,300 on 22:50 - Apr 14 by dilleydaler
Paid to deal with pressure. Not up to it? Move on.

I fear you've missed TTNYear's point.

When I was your age, I used to enjoy the odd game of tennis. Or was it golf?

2,300 on 23:00 - Apr 14 with 6421 views

TTNYear

2,300 on 22:56 - Apr 14 by 442Dale
Agreed, it requires everyone, including supporters, to assist the new member of staff. There has to be a complete shift in mindset amongst some.

Agreed. This lady has not only taken on Iain Johnstone's job but also the thorny issue of promoting the club to the town, which is arguably a job on its own. We could be going through marketing managers like Notts County go through football managers.

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2,300 on 23:02 - Apr 14 with 6395 views

D_Alien

2,300 on 22:57 - Apr 14 by TVOS1907
I fear you've missed TTNYear's point.

Was it substantive enough?

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2,300 on 23:04 - Apr 14 with 6383 views

Thacks_Rabbits

2,300 on 22:54 - Apr 14 by KenBoon

Totally agree Ken - although I sadly think Sutton started the changes - admittedly we had some bad spells but club did seem to change around then :)

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2,300 on 23:06 - Apr 14 with 6357 views

D_Alien

2,300 on 23:04 - Apr 14 by Thacks_Rabbits
Totally agree Ken - although I sadly think Sutton started the changes - admittedly we had some bad spells but club did seem to change around then :)

Probably started to pick up when Danny Bergara took charge - the first time we weren't totally shit for at least 10 years

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2,300 on 23:08 - Apr 14 with 6335 views

Thacks_Rabbits

2,300 on 23:06 - Apr 14 by D_Alien
Probably started to pick up when Danny Bergara took charge - the first time we weren't totally shit for at least 10 years

Yep - lot of truth in that :)

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2,300 on 23:08 - Apr 14 with 6331 views

dilleydaler

2,300 on 22:57 - Apr 14 by TVOS1907
I fear you've missed TTNYear's point.

I posted earlier about the infrastructure in the whole club, starting at the top. Putting this all on the shoulders of one person is of course unfair. But team Rochdale is about just that. My view is that the Directors will be congratulating themselves on a great season on the pitch.

I think that underlying this Hill generated playing side success is masking deficiencies at Board level. The appointment of a marketing manager is a no brain move, but we need a Director responsible for growing our off pitch income, who can work with the new Marketing Manager to drive forward all our commercial activities.

The job is tough though, to change years of acceptance that most people in Rochdale are not inclined to turn up. It's annoying when people sometimes are too accepting of failure, this, whether we like it or not is business and we need to drive continual improvement. Just like Keith and the playing staff do.

Wakey Wakey was directed at the board, so good call if you think I missed the point.

2,300 on 23:11 - Apr 14 with 6298 views

D_Alien

2,300 on 23:08 - Apr 14 by dilleydaler

You could've cut and pasted that from any of about 1000 threads on here

But thanks anyway

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2,300 on 23:14 - Apr 14 with 6263 views

TalkingSutty

2,300 on 22:47 - Apr 14 by TTNYear
We were talking about this prior to the game, and I think some of you are in danger of heaping too much pressure on the new encumbent. I wonder whether it may be a job that's too big for one person.

Spot on. I expect her to come up with some decent ideas but she will probably have to drag the rest of the club staff, kicking and screaming. Set in their ways, comfort zone, whatever you want to call it.

Unless EVERYBODY employed at the club buys into the start of a new marketing/commercial era at the club, she is on a hiding to nothing. Do the current staff have the appetite to want to see the club grow or do they see their position as just a job that they do, I don't know. I don't envy her but wish her good luck.

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