| BBC Radio Manchester 6pm 12:20 - Mar 30 with 20364 views | dale18 |
Dunphy and Hilly are guests on the show tonight could be entertaining after Hilly's comments on Saturday. |  | | |  |
| BBC Radio Manchester 6pm on 21:01 - Mar 30 with 2917 views | nordenblue |
| BBC Radio Manchester 6pm on 20:16 - Mar 30 by CamdenDale |
Understand that. My angle is, given the budget will never really change and consolidation is a mirage, is go for it, smash and grab, play the youngsters, go for glory and come back down relatively unscathed. What's to lose Norden? |
Plenty according to certain people,why would Hilly and co not be stamping up and down and shouting from the rooftops in disgust following the sale of our star asset for peanuts( relatively speaking) as in previous seasons when the clubs currently more stable than its EVER been?
The budget will/would grossly change as many current players salaries would increase purely based on a promotion not to mention wages given out to "attract" new players | | | |
| BBC Radio Manchester 6pm on 21:09 - Mar 30 with 2882 views | sweetcorn |
| BBC Radio Manchester 6pm on 21:01 - Mar 30 by nordenblue |
Plenty according to certain people,why would Hilly and co not be stamping up and down and shouting from the rooftops in disgust following the sale of our star asset for peanuts( relatively speaking) as in previous seasons when the clubs currently more stable than its EVER been?
The budget will/would grossly change as many current players salaries would increase purely based on a promotion not to mention wages given out to "attract" new players |
Perhaps because Hill doesn't think losing Done is that big a deal and made sense for the club to take the money because he believed we can cope without him.
I'd say his decision has been vindicated with our recent rise back to the play-offs.
This argument about not replacing done worked tremendously well when we fell down the league into the bottom half, not so much now. |  |
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| BBC Radio Manchester 6pm on 21:16 - Mar 30 with 2847 views | Thacks_Rabbits |
| BBC Radio Manchester 6pm on 21:09 - Mar 30 by sweetcorn |
Perhaps because Hill doesn't think losing Done is that big a deal and made sense for the club to take the money because he believed we can cope without him.
I'd say his decision has been vindicated with our recent rise back to the play-offs.
This argument about not replacing done worked tremendously well when we fell down the league into the bottom half, not so much now. |
I still think we are totally lightweight up front. PV injured and Hendo off form we basically dont have a striker (odd one off JB and CA) but we did not sign one deadline or loan day so we have to make do with what we have now. |  |
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| BBC Radio Manchester 6pm on 21:17 - Mar 30 with 2838 views | R17ALE |
| BBC Radio Manchester 6pm on 21:01 - Mar 30 by nordenblue |
Plenty according to certain people,why would Hilly and co not be stamping up and down and shouting from the rooftops in disgust following the sale of our star asset for peanuts( relatively speaking) as in previous seasons when the clubs currently more stable than its EVER been?
The budget will/would grossly change as many current players salaries would increase purely based on a promotion not to mention wages given out to "attract" new players |
Done wasn't sold for peanuts!
I have it on very good authority, we got £500,000 deposit with add ons which would more than double that amount.
And the deal sets up Done for life. |  |
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| BBC Radio Manchester 6pm on 21:30 - Mar 30 with 2768 views | nordenblue |
| BBC Radio Manchester 6pm on 21:09 - Mar 30 by sweetcorn |
Perhaps because Hill doesn't think losing Done is that big a deal and made sense for the club to take the money because he believed we can cope without him.
I'd say his decision has been vindicated with our recent rise back to the play-offs.
This argument about not replacing done worked tremendously well when we fell down the league into the bottom half, not so much now. |
Why would he think its a big deal with the expectations of a club/most fans being over the moon with just existing in league 1 add to that the personal gains following the sale,it made perfect sense to sell.
Teams with any idea of achieving things generally dont let their star player go without putting up much of a fight or only do business for ridiculous money,we did neither.
Id say our current rise back to the fringes is purely coincidental linked to some bang average teams we've played in a short period of time tbf | | | |
| BBC Radio Manchester 6pm on 21:35 - Mar 30 with 2753 views | SuddenLad |
| BBC Radio Manchester 6pm on 21:17 - Mar 30 by R17ALE |
Done wasn't sold for peanuts!
I have it on very good authority, we got £500,000 deposit with add ons which would more than double that amount.
And the deal sets up Done for life. |
Good deal for all parties, no question.
As KH pointed out tonight, we scored more goals when Matt Done wasn't playing, than when he was in the team. |  |
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| BBC Radio Manchester 6pm on 21:36 - Mar 30 with 2747 views | nordenblue |
| BBC Radio Manchester 6pm on 21:17 - Mar 30 by R17ALE |
Done wasn't sold for peanuts!
I have it on very good authority, we got £500,000 deposit with add ons which would more than double that amount.
And the deal sets up Done for life. |
Relative peanuts if you factor in a crack at a potential playoffs/ promotion?
There wasn't many other teams in the top 6/7 selling their striker bang in form for 500k and replace them with Brandy or a RNL type squad filler | | | |
| BBC Radio Manchester 6pm on 21:40 - Mar 30 with 2722 views | nordenblue |
| BBC Radio Manchester 6pm on 21:16 - Mar 30 by Thacks_Rabbits |
I still think we are totally lightweight up front. PV injured and Hendo off form we basically dont have a striker (odd one off JB and CA) but we did not sign one deadline or loan day so we have to make do with what we have now. |
And people think a club gunning for the unthinkable would happily go with that as an option,we are lucky Hendo has hit some form too or that dropping like a stone would have continued for a while longer | | | |
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| BBC Radio Manchester 6pm on 21:40 - Mar 30 with 2716 views | Thacks_Rabbits |
| BBC Radio Manchester 6pm on 21:36 - Mar 30 by nordenblue |
Relative peanuts if you factor in a crack at a potential playoffs/ promotion?
There wasn't many other teams in the top 6/7 selling their striker bang in form for 500k and replace them with Brandy or a RNL type squad filler |
In fairness few questioned the sale ever - just the lack of a replacement now we have 1 wage left and loads of cash in the bank from the sale.
Can't do the whole RMR thing again but surely with the contacts we have a proven striker from Champs on loan was a must do not a can't do! | |
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| BBC Radio Manchester 6pm on 21:41 - Mar 30 with 2709 views | 442Dale |
| BBC Radio Manchester 6pm on 21:36 - Mar 30 by nordenblue |
Relative peanuts if you factor in a crack at a potential playoffs/ promotion?
There wasn't many other teams in the top 6/7 selling their striker bang in form for 500k and replace them with Brandy or a RNL type squad filler |
I can see relevance when comparing Done to the players we have in the squad, but in reality would any of us expect to be doing any better if Done had remained? |  |
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| BBC Radio Manchester 6pm on 21:41 - Mar 30 with 2712 views | TVOS1907 |
| BBC Radio Manchester 6pm on 21:36 - Mar 30 by nordenblue |
Relative peanuts if you factor in a crack at a potential playoffs/ promotion?
There wasn't many other teams in the top 6/7 selling their striker bang in form for 500k and replace them with Brandy or a RNL type squad filler |
Chesterfield, who replaced Doyle with nobody. |  |
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| BBC Radio Manchester 6pm on 21:44 - Mar 30 with 2691 views | KenBoon |
Listening now. Clearly no real ambition for promotion. It's such a shame. |  | | |
| BBC Radio Manchester 6pm on 21:46 - Mar 30 with 2679 views | sweetcorn |
| BBC Radio Manchester 6pm on 21:30 - Mar 30 by nordenblue |
Why would he think its a big deal with the expectations of a club/most fans being over the moon with just existing in league 1 add to that the personal gains following the sale,it made perfect sense to sell.
Teams with any idea of achieving things generally dont let their star player go without putting up much of a fight or only do business for ridiculous money,we did neither.
Id say our current rise back to the fringes is purely coincidental linked to some bang average teams we've played in a short period of time tbf |
Of course we're over the moon being in league one, seriously we've only spent 5 seasons in this league in our entire history, so being here is quite an achievement. Getting the play-offs is a very realistic target for us this season and we all want to achieve that, but I also trust Hill to do whats best for the club and if selling done for a sizeable sum, when he thinks we can still achieve that without him. theres nothing to say we would have won those games with him and after the good start he has hardly scored an obscene amount of goals for sheffield has he.
Regardless of what you think with regards to us playing 'bang average teams' that is only your opinion. the hard facts are that we are sitting in the play-off's with a game in hand on most teams, that is a clear enough indicator to me that the club are trying to achieve them. | |
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| BBC Radio Manchester 6pm on 21:48 - Mar 30 with 2662 views | Thacks_Rabbits |
| BBC Radio Manchester 6pm on 21:41 - Mar 30 by TVOS1907 |
Chesterfield, who replaced Doyle with nobody. |
Maybe we could have signed Roberts off them, although the 5k a week plus may have been an issue :) | |
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| BBC Radio Manchester 6pm on 21:53 - Mar 30 with 2644 views | TalkingSutty |
| BBC Radio Manchester 6pm on 21:41 - Mar 30 by 442Dale |
I can see relevance when comparing Done to the players we have in the squad, but in reality would any of us expect to be doing any better if Done had remained? |
I think we could have done better, yes. It will never be proved but having Done in your attack would probably have resulted in picking up points at either Walsall, Bristol or Fleetwood. I would have expected Matt Done to make a difference and that could have possibly given us another 2 or 3 points. Done was a great outlet especially away from home. I said at the time we had sold our play off place and I still believe that. [Post edited 30 Mar 2015 21:56]
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| BBC Radio Manchester 6pm on 21:56 - Mar 30 with 2606 views | nordenblue |
| BBC Radio Manchester 6pm on 21:46 - Mar 30 by sweetcorn |
Of course we're over the moon being in league one, seriously we've only spent 5 seasons in this league in our entire history, so being here is quite an achievement. Getting the play-offs is a very realistic target for us this season and we all want to achieve that, but I also trust Hill to do whats best for the club and if selling done for a sizeable sum, when he thinks we can still achieve that without him. theres nothing to say we would have won those games with him and after the good start he has hardly scored an obscene amount of goals for sheffield has he.
Regardless of what you think with regards to us playing 'bang average teams' that is only your opinion. the hard facts are that we are sitting in the play-off's with a game in hand on most teams, that is a clear enough indicator to me that the club are trying to achieve them. |
Id say the league table backs up the fact that Yeovil,Scunthorpe,Colchester,Crewe etc are indeed bang average/poor league 1 teams rather than just my opinion to be honest,and we've happened to play most of the worst teams in a short space of time. | | | |
| BBC Radio Manchester 6pm on 21:57 - Mar 30 with 2604 views | nordenblue |
| BBC Radio Manchester 6pm on 21:53 - Mar 30 by TalkingSutty |
I think we could have done better, yes. It will never be proved but having Done in your attack would probably have resulted in picking up points at either Walsall, Bristol or Fleetwood. I would have expected Matt Done to make a difference and that could have possibly given us another 2 or 3 points. Done was a great outlet especially away from home. I said at the time we had sold our play off place and I still believe that. [Post edited 30 Mar 2015 21:56]
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| BBC Radio Manchester 6pm on 21:58 - Mar 30 with 2599 views | Thacks_Rabbits |
Whats our away form like since we sold MD? | |
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| BBC Radio Manchester 6pm on 22:00 - Mar 30 with 2585 views | 442Dale |
| BBC Radio Manchester 6pm on 21:58 - Mar 30 by Thacks_Rabbits |
Whats our away form like since we sold MD? |
What's our home form like?
As TS says, it can never be proved but we've not missed Done that much results wise. | |
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| BBC Radio Manchester 6pm on 22:03 - Mar 30 with 2564 views | Thacks_Rabbits |
| BBC Radio Manchester 6pm on 22:00 - Mar 30 by 442Dale |
What's our home form like?
As TS says, it can never be proved but we've not missed Done that much results wise. |
Thats my point 442 - we lack MD away from home but we play a different game at home now that works. | |
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| BBC Radio Manchester 6pm on 22:05 - Mar 30 with 2549 views | TVOS1907 |
| BBC Radio Manchester 6pm on 21:46 - Mar 30 by sweetcorn |
Of course we're over the moon being in league one, seriously we've only spent 5 seasons in this league in our entire history, so being here is quite an achievement. Getting the play-offs is a very realistic target for us this season and we all want to achieve that, but I also trust Hill to do whats best for the club and if selling done for a sizeable sum, when he thinks we can still achieve that without him. theres nothing to say we would have won those games with him and after the good start he has hardly scored an obscene amount of goals for sheffield has he.
Regardless of what you think with regards to us playing 'bang average teams' that is only your opinion. the hard facts are that we are sitting in the play-off's with a game in hand on most teams, that is a clear enough indicator to me that the club are trying to achieve them. |
This is our ninth season in the third tier. | |
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| BBC Radio Manchester 6pm on 22:08 - Mar 30 with 2534 views | TVOS1907 |
| BBC Radio Manchester 6pm on 22:03 - Mar 30 by Thacks_Rabbits |
Thats my point 442 - we lack MD away from home but we play a different game at home now that works. |
We've played 12 league games since we sold Done and have picked up 18 points.
In the 12 league games before we sold Done, we picked up 15 points.
Lies, damned lies and statistics... | |
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| BBC Radio Manchester 6pm on 22:09 - Mar 30 with 2512 views | TVOS1907 |
| BBC Radio Manchester 6pm on 21:40 - Mar 30 by Thacks_Rabbits |
In fairness few questioned the sale ever - just the lack of a replacement now we have 1 wage left and loads of cash in the bank from the sale.
Can't do the whole RMR thing again but surely with the contacts we have a proven striker from Champs on loan was a must do not a can't do! |
Wouldn't a proven striker already be playing or be unavailable? | |
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| BBC Radio Manchester 6pm on 22:14 - Mar 30 with 2483 views | isitme |
| BBC Radio Manchester 6pm on 22:09 - Mar 30 by TVOS1907 |
Wouldn't a proven striker already be playing or be unavailable? |
Hill said he tried to bring someone in on loan from a League One club but his club were not playing ball.
I do wonder where this mythical proven striker tree is? Especially considering our wage structure. |  | | |
| BBC Radio Manchester 6pm on 22:21 - Mar 30 with 2445 views | TalkingSutty |
| BBC Radio Manchester 6pm on 22:14 - Mar 30 by isitme |
Hill said he tried to bring someone in on loan from a League One club but his club were not playing ball.
I do wonder where this mythical proven striker tree is? Especially considering our wage structure. |
Sometimes you can get lucky, you roll the dice and can bring in a player with a poor pedigree and goal scoring record and it just works, they don't have to be proven......COG? | | | |
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