| what would american investors want 10:21 - Jan 28 with 12105 views | libertine |
is it a bad thing that the Americans are buying a big lump of our club.
what would they do?
as ive said on here many times we are in a very special place we are in wales and the only premier club, would they want o build it up?
something has to happen as we are in a bit of a panic alarm state
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| what would american investors want on 20:54 - Jan 28 with 1378 views | libertine |
if you applied for a bank loan in 2002 then they were quite easy to come by, also if you'd been in business before it would not appear such a frightening prospect.
Also I thought that if you were a LTd company then your house was safe.
I wonder if a very large number of people could be found to invest in the for sale shares, Swansea Fans obviously, or is that a long shot
hopefully not like the government did with the PO | | | |
| what would american investors want on 20:58 - Jan 28 with 1366 views | morningstar |
| what would american investors want on 20:42 - Jan 28 by Parlay |
I said if i was Katzen id sell.
The likes of Huw Jenkins and Martin Morgan have no such excuse however. They have lauded themselves as saviours of Swansea and fans of the club that took over to save it. Even stuck a million quid of the clubs money into a move to document their ownership.
They make mega bucks from the club and have had their investment back more than 10 fold.
If they are to sell they have a duty to make sure the club is in good hands. John Moores is not good hands. |
It's not John Moores coming in that worries me, it's John Moores going out! Not just the San Diego Padres, the man seems to have a bit of a habit of destroying what he builds!
http://www.bloomberg.com/bw/stories/2002-10-13/just-how-much-did-john-moores-kno |  |
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| what would american investors want on 20:58 - Jan 28 with 1363 views | Parlay |
| what would american investors want on 20:50 - Jan 28 by GeoffThom |
If you think they're not right as I said buy into it ,I for one couldn't and I don't know if you could or couldn't as I said I don't see anyone else riding into town to take the swans over ,if we want this club to remain at the top table we need money men some of our directors would be ok in the lower leagues but that's it we've been lucky so far gone are the days of the butcher baker and candlestick maker owning the local club times have moved on |
I cant afford £30m. But that is besides the point.
Nobody needs to ride into town. We have owners who apparently want the best for our club. Great, then do whats best for our club then and not sell to parasites at the first opportunity. |  |
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| what would american investors want on 20:58 - Jan 28 with 1366 views | GeoffThom |
| what would american investors want on 20:52 - Jan 28 by perchrockjack |
If our team do eell so do the yanks .
Why would they wanting shaft us.
It's in their own interests for us to prosper.
Parochial,small time thinking has held back swansea in every way. This could be the genesis of our club ,city really moving up in the world.. |
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| what would american investors want on 20:59 - Jan 28 with 1359 views | Parlay |
Yes thats my point. He has an awful track record. | |
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| what would american investors want on 21:12 - Jan 28 with 1347 views | GeoffThom |
| what would american investors want on 20:58 - Jan 28 by Parlay |
I cant afford £30m. But that is besides the point.
Nobody needs to ride into town. We have owners who apparently want the best for our club. Great, then do whats best for our club then and not sell to parasites at the first opportunity. |
How do we know they're the first there may well gave been others these are probably the only ones willing to follow through with an offer our directors seem as if they've gone as far as they can to move up a gear we need to sell if it's right or wrong only time will tell in my 45 years of watching the swans I've seen it all some for the good some for the bad but one thing I won't have at this time is giving the board a hammering over what they feel is right for the club | | | |
| what would american investors want on 21:13 - Jan 28 with 1342 views | Parlay |
| what would american investors want on 21:12 - Jan 28 by GeoffThom |
How do we know they're the first there may well gave been others these are probably the only ones willing to follow through with an offer our directors seem as if they've gone as far as they can to move up a gear we need to sell if it's right or wrong only time will tell in my 45 years of watching the swans I've seen it all some for the good some for the bad but one thing I won't have at this time is giving the board a hammering over what they feel is right for the club |
An educated guess.
Whether they are the first or the millionth, their track record is awful and as far away from a safe pair of hands as you can get. | |
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| what would american investors want on 21:20 - Jan 28 with 1332 views | pencoedjack |
| what would american investors want on 21:12 - Jan 28 by GeoffThom |
How do we know they're the first there may well gave been others these are probably the only ones willing to follow through with an offer our directors seem as if they've gone as far as they can to move up a gear we need to sell if it's right or wrong only time will tell in my 45 years of watching the swans I've seen it all some for the good some for the bad but one thing I won't have at this time is giving the board a hammering over what they feel is right for the club |
True mate.
The doom merchants fail to give an alternative .... |  | | |
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| what would american investors want on 21:46 - Jan 28 with 1309 views | Parlay |
| what would american investors want on 21:20 - Jan 28 by pencoedjack |
True mate.
The doom merchants fail to give an alternative .... |
Ive given one. Dont sell to people with awful track records. Not hard. | |
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| what would american investors want on 21:51 - Jan 28 with 1303 views | pencoedjack |
| what would american investors want on 21:46 - Jan 28 by Parlay |
Ive given one. Dont sell to people with awful track records. Not hard. |
But they are going to sell .... So who is this gallant knight in shining armour riding into Swansea to pay millions of pounds for shares ? | | | |
| what would american investors want on 21:53 - Jan 28 with 1297 views | Parlay |
| what would american investors want on 21:51 - Jan 28 by pencoedjack |
But they are going to sell .... So who is this gallant knight in shining armour riding into Swansea to pay millions of pounds for shares ? |
You are missing the point.
Nobody is saying they should sell to someone else. We all realise they are selling to the Americans. We are making the point that it is an awful decision for people supposedly having the club at heart. Nobody is making them leave, nobody is forcing them to sell their shares. | |
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| what would american investors want on 22:01 - Jan 28 with 1282 views | GeoffThom |
| what would american investors want on 21:53 - Jan 28 by Parlay |
You are missing the point.
Nobody is saying they should sell to someone else. We all realise they are selling to the Americans. We are making the point that it is an awful decision for people supposedly having the club at heart. Nobody is making them leave, nobody is forcing them to sell their shares. |
It's probably a desicion not taken lightly they may well rather hold on to the club but to be fair to them they are trying to be forward thinking in the outlook for the club and if it means them being handsomely paid for it I don't care and unless someone comes up with a realistic alternative involving big money it's going to happen | | | |
| what would american investors want on 22:01 - Jan 28 with 1279 views | jackonicko |
| what would american investors want on 21:53 - Jan 28 by Parlay |
You are missing the point.
Nobody is saying they should sell to someone else. We all realise they are selling to the Americans. We are making the point that it is an awful decision for people supposedly having the club at heart. Nobody is making them leave, nobody is forcing them to sell their shares. |
How did we suddenly get to the conclusion that it *is* an awful decision? |  | | |
| what would american investors want on 22:02 - Jan 28 with 1275 views | pencoedjack |
| what would american investors want on 21:53 - Jan 28 by Parlay |
You are missing the point.
Nobody is saying they should sell to someone else. We all realise they are selling to the Americans. We are making the point that it is an awful decision for people supposedly having the club at heart. Nobody is making them leave, nobody is forcing them to sell their shares. |
I'm not missing the point your view differs from mine.
Anyway cant be arsed to argue ... Enjoy your night or day whatever it is in Oz (or wherever you are) . | | | |
| what would american investors want on 22:03 - Jan 28 with 1271 views | Parlay |
| what would american investors want on 22:02 - Jan 28 by pencoedjack |
I'm not missing the point your view differs from mine.
Anyway cant be arsed to argue ... Enjoy your night or day whatever it is in Oz (or wherever you are) . |
Wales. | |
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| what would american investors want on 22:04 - Jan 28 with 1266 views | Parlay |
| what would american investors want on 22:01 - Jan 28 by jackonicko |
How did we suddenly get to the conclusion that it *is* an awful decision? |
Because it cant be anything but, when looked at it rationally. [Post edited 28 Jan 2015 22:05]
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| what would american investors want on 22:05 - Jan 28 with 1261 views | jackonicko |
| what would american investors want on 22:04 - Jan 28 by Parlay |
Because it cant be anything but, when looked at it rationally. [Post edited 28 Jan 2015 22:05]
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It can be anything but an awful decision?
So, we are saying it is not an awful decision now? I can't keep up. | | | |
| what would american investors want on 22:06 - Jan 28 with 1251 views | Parlay |
| what would american investors want on 22:05 - Jan 28 by jackonicko |
It can be anything but an awful decision?
So, we are saying it is not an awful decision now? I can't keep up. |
Cant.
Read it again. [Post edited 28 Jan 2015 22:06]
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| what would american investors want on 22:09 - Jan 28 with 1240 views | jackonicko |
| what would american investors want on 22:06 - Jan 28 by Parlay |
Cant.
Read it again. [Post edited 28 Jan 2015 22:06]
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You little cant. You and your editing again... | | | |
| what would american investors want on 22:10 - Jan 28 with 1237 views | GeoffThom |
| what would american investors want on 22:06 - Jan 28 by Parlay |
Cant.
Read it again. [Post edited 28 Jan 2015 22:06]
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Your surmising you don't know and neither does anyone else it's purley your opinion as is mine | | | |
| what would american investors want on 22:11 - Jan 28 with 1227 views | Parlay |
| what would american investors want on 22:09 - Jan 28 by jackonicko |
You little cant. You and your editing again... |
You would prefer me to keep a typo and thus portray my opinion incorrectly?
Weird. | |
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| what would american investors want on 22:12 - Jan 28 with 1225 views | Parlay |
| what would american investors want on 22:10 - Jan 28 by GeoffThom |
Your surmising you don't know and neither does anyone else it's purley your opinion as is mine |
I don't know Messi would be a good player in the Prem either. But its a safe bet when looked at sensibly. | |
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| what would american investors want on 22:16 - Jan 28 with 1221 views | GeoffThom |
| what would american investors want on 22:12 - Jan 28 by Parlay |
I don't know Messi would be a good player in the Prem either. But its a safe bet when looked at sensibly. |
Well I'm not a betting man I'm trying to look into the good not the bad of any deal that may or may not happen but I'm willing to bet on the boys running the club doing the right thing because they've not let us down so far so that makes them a good bet | | | |
| what would american investors want on 22:18 - Jan 28 with 1216 views | jackonicko |
| what would american investors want on 22:11 - Jan 28 by Parlay |
You would prefer me to keep a typo and thus portray my opinion incorrectly?
Weird. |
I typed my answer based on your post. And then you came back with a snippy little 'read it again' suggesting I had misunderstood, rather than you were incapable of expressing your argument.
So, let me pose an alternate view.
The americans have not suddenly appeared from nowhere. They have been sought out by the current shareholders so that some of them can sell out. That is common knowledge.
You think that it is more awful to sell to these americans than to maintain the status quo, with core directors and shareholders who want out? What is the future of the club if they are forced to stay, but no longer have an interest in doing so? That could be more awful than selling.
I'm not saying it is. I'm just saying that your arbitrary conclusion that it is so, is not supportable. | | | |
| what would american investors want on 22:18 - Jan 28 with 1212 views | Parlay |
| what would american investors want on 22:16 - Jan 28 by GeoffThom |
Well I'm not a betting man I'm trying to look into the good not the bad of any deal that may or may not happen but I'm willing to bet on the boys running the club doing the right thing because they've not let us down so far so that makes them a good bet |
But to be sensible you have to look at it all and not cut out the bad.
The board are not doing this in our interests. Look at the bony sale and the stadium purchase, neither were or are good deals for Swansea. They are good deals for them.
This sale is to someone who took $200m of his clubs TV rights and pocketed it. | |
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