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Ned the engine. 21:00 - Dec 3 with 4000 viewsOutintheOrne

Just thought i'd share an observation that I think will improve the team whilst Sandro is crocked. Let's hope that we can get him fit where Tottenham failed.

Barton just has to be dropped. Great engine, gets in decisive blocks, plays a simple ball well but is completely unwilling to accept the limits of his game. Karl Henry with a HUGE ego. Time and again gives possession away trying things he can't do, whether it's a raking pass or sliding one through the middle it inevitably falls straight to the opposition. If he knew his limitations he'd be great but he doesn't and I suspect never will, it'll be the same in whatever career he chooses after football.

Neither Fer nor Kranjcar can fulfil the role we need from that position, which is effectively a defensive one.

Ned can't really pass, doesn't look at all natural going forward but has the odd foray in him. Physically there aren't many midfielders that can match him. Plus with him and Henry together in there it'll allow Yun and Isla to be the attacking full backs that they naturally are. He can tackle, knows his limitations and has the character to dominate that position and will naturally cover Isla when he rampages forward with his mate Eduardo. Charlie will love it and you could perhaps even get away with throwing Adel in for the odd 'bonus' game in an attempt to please all of the people some of the time.

For as long as Dunne is playing and we don't need him at CB i'd move him forward, he'll apply himself well and could turn out to be our Viera.
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Ned the engine. on 21:14 - Dec 3 with 3964 viewsBklynRanger

I'm genuinely all in favour of novel solutions to our mess away from home, but if the main problem with Joey is giving the ball away I don't see how Ned can be the solution to that.
He's constantly giving it away on the right so from a DM position it would shirley be even worse?

Watching on tv I thought about half of Joey's errors were his own fault and the half was a lack of movement and options around him. Swansea were great at closing down and we just didn't look well enough drilled to offer an 'out' ball.
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Ned the engine. on 21:41 - Dec 3 with 3910 viewsHollowayRanger

as you just said

Ned can't really pass

and yet you want him in centre midfield

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Ned the engine. on 21:45 - Dec 3 with 3894 viewsHollowayRanger

v burnley

----------green
isla dunne caulker yun
------barton henry
vargas---------------fey
----zamorra Austin

kranjar is too slow we need to go for this

and attack put them on the back foot and keep them there away from our defence ,they will score so WE must OUT SCORE THEM

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Ned the engine. on 21:55 - Dec 3 with 3869 viewsWadR

Just can't see that working sadly.

He's uncomfortable enough receiving the ball at right back with pressure from an opposing winger, imagine him receiving the ball facing his own goal under pressure from multiple midfielders. I just don't think he has the subtlety to his game to play that role.

I like Onuoha, but he should be cover for right-back and centreback. He's certainly not a midfielder.

I'd prefer to see Mutch or Fer get a run of games in central midfield. I feel they have a lot more to offer.
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Ned the engine. on 22:00 - Dec 3 with 3846 viewsozexile

Never work. He couldn't trap a bag of cement.
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Ned the engine. on 22:18 - Dec 3 with 3796 viewsHollowayRanger

Ned the engine. on 22:00 - Dec 3 by ozexile

Never work. He couldn't trap a bag of cement.


YEP remember the playoff final

watch it on youtube he was in midfield and his poor pass put us in the poo and o'neill was forced to make that naughty tackle



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Ned the engine. on 22:38 - Dec 3 with 3751 viewsCamberleyR

I think Rio would be a better shout as a holding DM. As Harold says "he ain't never gonna boot it up the pitch".

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Ned the engine. on 22:49 - Dec 3 with 3720 viewsTheBlob

Why have we always got to do the "make do and mend" tactic?Admit there's a fukkup and get in some specialist help in January.Marcelo Diaz,another Chilean fits the bill nicely,I'm sure Basel would be open to a loan bid.

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Ned the engine. on 23:19 - Dec 3 with 3681 viewsHollowayRanger

Ned the engine. on 22:49 - Dec 3 by TheBlob

Why have we always got to do the "make do and mend" tactic?Admit there's a fukkup and get in some specialist help in January.Marcelo Diaz,another Chilean fits the bill nicely,I'm sure Basel would be open to a loan bid.


problem is we have lost our two experts

faurlin and sandro in the postion

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Ned the engine. on 23:21 - Dec 3 with 3677 viewsTheBlob

Ned the engine. on 23:19 - Dec 3 by HollowayRanger

problem is we have lost our two experts

faurlin and sandro in the postion


Even more reason to freshen things up,can't wait for pieces of the jigsaw to conveniently fall into place.

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Ned the engine. on 23:23 - Dec 3 with 3672 viewsRangersAreBack

I admire creative thinking but Ned in midfield is seriously clutching at straws.
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Ned the engine. on 09:28 - Dec 4 with 3472 viewsSpiritofGregory

We would never retain possession. The opposition would have a field day.
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Ned the engine. on 09:44 - Dec 4 with 3446 viewsQPunkR

I also like the thinking behind this. Barton is a *massive* weak point for us. Constantly giving the ball away to the oppo at a rate of knots will never help in our cause.
However, there is no way the Chief could do a job at DM/CM, more's the pity. Could try Isla in there (can't he apparently play CM?) and Onuoha at RB again, but even there he was giving the ball away like a priest at a church raffle.

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Ned the engine. on 13:18 - Dec 4 with 3350 viewsWestbourneR

Ned Onouha in central midfield.

Yeah, really great idea, can't believe absolutely no one ever thought of it earlier.

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Ned the engine. on 13:48 - Dec 4 with 3324 viewsPinnerPaul

Ned the engine. on 21:41 - Dec 3 by HollowayRanger

as you just said

Ned can't really pass

and yet you want him in centre midfield


Indeed

Drop Joey because he can't pass and promote Ned even though ...........he can't pass

Makes Harry look a tactical genius!
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Ned the engine. on 13:50 - Dec 4 with 3313 viewsPinnerPaul

Ned the engine. on 09:44 - Dec 4 by QPunkR

I also like the thinking behind this. Barton is a *massive* weak point for us. Constantly giving the ball away to the oppo at a rate of knots will never help in our cause.
However, there is no way the Chief could do a job at DM/CM, more's the pity. Could try Isla in there (can't he apparently play CM?) and Onuoha at RB again, but even there he was giving the ball away like a priest at a church raffle.


Punk, just go out and get your "Anyone but Barton" T shirt printed.

It'll make you feel better!
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Ned the engine. on 13:51 - Dec 4 with 3309 viewsMarc

Great athlete, strong in the tackle, hopeless on the ball.
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Ned the engine. on 13:58 - Dec 4 with 3301 viewsPinnerPaul

Ned the engine. on 13:51 - Dec 4 by Marc

Great athlete, strong in the tackle, hopeless on the ball.


Gives a good interview as well!
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Ned the engine. on 17:22 - Dec 4 with 3241 viewsOutintheOrne

And there I was thinking I was a football genius.
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