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Ironic that your avatar is an image of Philip Larkin, a poet whose use of language couldn't be further from Thomas's.
Larkin is restrained & downbeat in a English way, while Thomas could, and has been, accused of being intemperate, verbose, extravagant, pretentious, obscurantist.
I think Larkin probably despised him, along with his pal Kingsley Amis, the latter an Eng. Lit. Lecturer at Swansea Uni in the late 40s/early 50s. Indeed, Amis deride Thomas during some drunken poetry readings in Swansea pubs.
Anyway, even some of DT's poem titles are more alluring than the reams of carp churned out by some on here. Eg. A Refusal To Mourn The Death, By Fire, Of A Child In London.
Chewy stuff.
Larkin is my favourite poet ("Time torn off unused" - a line I hear in my head almost every day!) but I admire anyone who can (re)phrase words to jolt me or bring me to a halt and Dylan Thomas is capable of that too ("robed in the long friends" in Refusal, for instance).
I used to hear T S Eliot in my head all the time. Time to re-read The Quartets methinks.
Anyone who doesn't get poetry (great poetry, I mean, not doggerel) isn't getting what it is to be alive. A serious house on serious earth, after all!
Ironic that your avatar is an image of Philip Larkin, a poet whose use of language couldn't be further from Thomas's.
Larkin is restrained & downbeat in a English way, while Thomas could, and has been, accused of being intemperate, verbose, extravagant, pretentious, obscurantist.
I think Larkin probably despised him, along with his pal Kingsley Amis, the latter an Eng. Lit. Lecturer at Swansea Uni in the late 40s/early 50s. Indeed, Amis deride Thomas during some drunken poetry readings in Swansea pubs.
Anyway, even some of DT's poem titles are more alluring than the reams of carp churned out by some on here. Eg. A Refusal To Mourn The Death, By Fire, Of A Child In London.
Chewy stuff.
Shame Kingsley Amis didn't pass his dislike of pretentious pomposity down to his son...
I did until he started calling himself Doctor when he got his honorary doctorate. Cock.
Someone needs to tell him he looks like Dot Cotton's deranged dad these days and also to stop his crimes against music with Hugh Cornwell. Seriously, WTF?
I did until he started calling himself Doctor when he got his honorary doctorate. Cock.
Someone needs to tell him he looks like Dot Cotton's deranged dad these days and also to stop his crimes against music with Hugh Cornwell. Seriously, WTF?
Yeah he must think he's a real Doctor see.
The first ever recipient of a Planet Swans Lifetime Achievement Award.
I did until he started calling himself Doctor when he got his honorary doctorate. Cock.
Someone needs to tell him he looks like Dot Cotton's deranged dad these days and also to stop his crimes against music with Hugh Cornwell. Seriously, WTF?
thanks for the heads up, I quite like it. He's no John Leyton but still it's alright
Don't go much on Martin then, Lisa? Have you met him?
No, although Kingsley Amis lived in the same road as my Grandparents (and Mum as a kid) in Brynmill when he was at the University.
I'm not a fan though, either of his work, or of his desire to appear amusing by slagging off Swansea in an effort to be 'terribly interesting'. I've always found him to be a bit of an a*se.
This guy is apparently the son of Peter 'The Rocking Sikh' Singh, he obviously has the same public performer skills as his legendary old man (ps anyone know if P.Singh is still alive?)
and the guy who wrote this is from Swansea, sounds like it's about a place on first listen, but I read that it's about fancying someone/wanting to f**k someone and accepting it ain't gonna happen
I did until he started calling himself Doctor when he got his honorary doctorate. Cock.
Someone needs to tell him he looks like Dot Cotton's deranged dad these days and also to stop his crimes against music with Hugh Cornwell. Seriously, WTF?
They all get honorary doctorates these days.
I've already exposed it all as a sham, fraud and one big load of horse manure..
And all the Drs agree.. the world is a fraud!
The awkward moment when a Welsh Club become the Champions of England.. shh
The Swansea Way.. To upset the odds.
This guy is apparently the son of Peter 'The Rocking Sikh' Singh, he obviously has the same public performer skills as his legendary old man (ps anyone know if P.Singh is still alive?)
and the guy who wrote this is from Swansea, sounds like it's about a place on first listen, but I read that it's about fancying someone/wanting to f**k someone and accepting it ain't gonna happen
Vijay sounded like the nutter on the bus and the second one too much like Ivor Cutler.
I've already exposed it all as a sham, fraud and one big load of horse manure..
And all the Drs agree.. the world is a fraud!
Academic doctorates are fine used in educational establishments. Anyone calling themselves a doctor outside academia who isn't a medical doctor deserves a good shoeing.
Academic doctorates are fine used in educational establishments. Anyone calling themselves a doctor outside academia who isn't a medical doctor deserves a good shoeing.
Honorary doctorates doubly so.
Well.. the establishments are 'arguing' whether the term 'medical' actually exists now.. or what is considered medical.
You're talking about.. Dr's of Surfing.. Dr's of Journalism, English, Maths, Lord of the Rings trilogy.. not people who actively study human beings.. I would consider a Dentist a Dr.. Dr of the mouth.
The awkward moment when a Welsh Club become the Champions of England.. shh
The Swansea Way.. To upset the odds.
Academic doctorates are fine used in educational establishments. Anyone calling themselves a doctor outside academia who isn't a medical doctor deserves a good shoeing.
Honorary doctorates doubly so.
My sister is in the medical profession and has always agreed with your opinion. She told me once (I do not know whether she was joking) that the word Dr is even used by some of non medical profession and is printed on his/hers cheque(s) instead of Mr or Mrs and on credit cards also.
I guess there are doctors of music etc, going around the place loving to give a false impression or two to TSB staff that they've done a good few saving stints at the local A+E.
Yes, some do, especially the expats, those unlucky enough not to live in or near our "lulled and dumbfound town", who watch our team on Sky, and weep into our beer over lines like "Now, as I was young and easy under the apple boughs about the lilting house, and as happy as the grass was green, the night above the dingle starry ........". His works are a joy of the humour and pathos of the South Wales Taffia.
No, although Kingsley Amis lived in the same road as my Grandparents (and Mum as a kid) in Brynmill when he was at the University.
I'm not a fan though, either of his work, or of his desire to appear amusing by slagging off Swansea in an effort to be 'terribly interesting'. I've always found him to be a bit of an a*se.
Martin Amis gently mocked the Swansea accent in his memoir when he mentioned a woman in Brynmill pronouncing the word "No" as "Gnaw" - which did, despite myself, make me guffaw.
No, although Kingsley Amis lived in the same road as my Grandparents (and Mum as a kid) in Brynmill when he was at the University.
I'm not a fan though, either of his work, or of his desire to appear amusing by slagging off Swansea in an effort to be 'terribly interesting'. I've always found him to be a bit of an a*se.
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