| Off Topic: Thick End of The Wedge 20:54 - Jan 26 with 8518 views | mikehunt |
WARNING: Don't read this if you don't like religious aguments
Is the muslim call to prayer over loudspeaker legal in this country? Because it was blasted out, loud as you like over Tweedale Street / Rochdale station area a few days back. And my daughter heard it in Blackburn a couple of days ago. |  |
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| Off Topic: Thick End of The Wedge on 20:59 - Jan 26 with 4791 views | wroughtironron |
Islam is a peaceful religion devoted to equal rights, harmony and integration.
Anyone claiming otherwise, will be stoned to death |  | | |
| Off Topic: Thick End of The Wedge on 21:12 - Jan 26 with 4768 views | TVOS1907 |
Must have been a bloody loud speaker system! |  |
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| Off Topic: Thick End of The Wedge on 21:20 - Jan 26 with 4743 views | Daley_Lama |
| Off Topic: Thick End of The Wedge on 21:12 - Jan 26 by TVOS1907 |
Must have been a bloody loud speaker system! |
Church bells for weddings and services should be vanned too.
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| Off Topic: Thick End of The Wedge on 21:51 - Jan 26 with 4663 views | mikehunt |
| Off Topic: Thick End of The Wedge on 21:12 - Jan 26 by TVOS1907 |
Must have been a bloody loud speaker system! |
He He! My daughter does have an extremely acute sense of hearing. But, seriously, what I heard was very loud. I just wonder if I have missed something. New legislation that allows this sort of thing now or whatever
The mosque near Tweedale Street does use a bell which is not intrusive. But the amplified wailing was. Also, a bell is merely a call. The muezzin is a statement. It's not even in English. | |
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| Off Topic: Thick End of The Wedge on 22:05 - Jan 26 with 4628 views | dale1968 |
It was a one off authorised by the authorities due to it being the prophet Mohamed's birthday.
And your right it was bloody loud and quite entertaining. |  |
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| Off Topic: Thick End of The Wedge on 22:09 - Jan 26 with 4618 views | R17ALE |
| Off Topic: Thick End of The Wedge on 21:51 - Jan 26 by mikehunt |
He He! My daughter does have an extremely acute sense of hearing. But, seriously, what I heard was very loud. I just wonder if I have missed something. New legislation that allows this sort of thing now or whatever
The mosque near Tweedale Street does use a bell which is not intrusive. But the amplified wailing was. Also, a bell is merely a call. The muezzin is a statement. It's not even in English. |
You should know by now in England, it's one rule for one, and one for another.
It's the modern way. |  |
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| Off Topic: Thick End of The Wedge on 22:18 - Jan 26 with 4598 views | nordenblue |
| Off Topic: Thick End of The Wedge on 22:09 - Jan 26 by R17ALE |
You should know by now in England, it's one rule for one, and one for another.
It's the modern way. |
You must leave other cultures to do just as they please in this country for fear of being tarnished racist,have you not read the rules, it baffles me more how these buildings that fly up all over the town get anywhere near passing planning consent,imagine ringing up the council and asking for a giant 50 foot high gold dome on top of your house roof,im sure youd get the thumbs. up. |  | | |
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| Off Topic: Thick End of The Wedge on 23:39 - Jan 26 with 4493 views | off2div1 |
I wonder why we don't have many Asian,s coming to the Dale. |  | | |
| Off Topic: Thick End of The Wedge on 01:17 - Jan 27 with 4430 views | TalkingSutty |
| Off Topic: Thick End of The Wedge on 23:39 - Jan 26 by off2div1 |
I wonder why we don't have many Asian,s coming to the Dale. |
And so it begins, another relgious/political thread that usually ends up in posts being deleted/insults being thrown etc. There are loads of forum for this sort of debate so why bring it up on one of a sporting nature?
If its not a regular thing and part of a celebration what harm is the announcement doing. We live in a multi cultutal society, live and let live is my take on it. |  | | |
| Off Topic: Thick End of The Wedge on 06:48 - Jan 27 with 4385 views | Albert_Whitehurst |
| Off Topic: Thick End of The Wedge on 23:39 - Jan 26 by off2div1 |
I wonder why we don't have many Asian,s coming to the Dale. |
For a town of 100,000 people...I wonder why we don't have many of anyone/anything coming to Dale! |  | | |
| Off Topic: Thick End of The Wedge on 07:29 - Jan 27 with 4351 views | aleanddale |
Marketing people take note >>
muslim call to prayer over loudspeaker at Spotland at 1.30pm Saturday ( and every home game )
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| Off Topic: Thick End of The Wedge on 08:27 - Jan 27 with 4284 views | rod_leach |
| Off Topic: Thick End of The Wedge on 21:51 - Jan 26 by mikehunt |
He He! My daughter does have an extremely acute sense of hearing. But, seriously, what I heard was very loud. I just wonder if I have missed something. New legislation that allows this sort of thing now or whatever
The mosque near Tweedale Street does use a bell which is not intrusive. But the amplified wailing was. Also, a bell is merely a call. The muezzin is a statement. It's not even in English. |
They'll be doing all that religious stuff in Latin next |  | | |
| Off Topic: Thick End of The Wedge on 10:33 - Jan 27 with 4179 views | Bobbyjoe |
Thing is, if it's not racist I'm struggling to think why anyone would bring the subject up (unless it's a noise abatement issue). Also, I think you're getting the ends of your wedges confused! | | | |
| Off Topic: Thick End of The Wedge on 11:43 - Jan 27 with 4119 views | D_Alien |
| Off Topic: Thick End of The Wedge on 07:29 - Jan 27 by aleanddale |
Marketing people take note >>
muslim call to prayer over loudspeaker at Spotland at 1.30pm Saturday ( and every home game )
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I'm sure rkershaw could put some words together to the tune of...
Come on the Sandy, you know you want to! |  |
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| Off Topic: Thick End of The Wedge on 13:16 - Jan 27 with 4030 views | nordenblue |
| Off Topic: Thick End of The Wedge on 10:33 - Jan 27 by Bobbyjoe |
Thing is, if it's not racist I'm struggling to think why anyone would bring the subject up (unless it's a noise abatement issue). Also, I think you're getting the ends of your wedges confused! |
How is asking a question racist?Its not an insult or offensive its a question?Are people not allowed to question other peoples ways? | | | |
| Off Topic: Thick End of The Wedge on 13:53 - Jan 27 with 3972 views | Bobbyjoe |
| Off Topic: Thick End of The Wedge on 13:16 - Jan 27 by nordenblue |
How is asking a question racist?Its not an insult or offensive its a question?Are people not allowed to question other peoples ways? |
Just a coincidence, then. | | | |
| Off Topic: Thick End of The Wedge on 14:38 - Jan 27 with 3911 views | SuddenLad |
I think this topic reared its' head a few years ago when the residents (presumably non-Muslim) near to a mosque (in Oxford I think) complained about exactly the same thing. Obviously, 'festival days' caused more disturbance than 'ordinary days' but it was perceived by them to be a 'problem'.
I seem to remember that the response was akin to, the freedom to follow one's religion is an inalienable right, enshrined in Article 18 of the Human Rights Act. That includes its' practices, beliefs, teachings, worship and observance.
There was also a case where a resident was so aggravated that he sat outside the mosque sounding his car horn in protest. He was prosecuted and convicted for 'interfering with a religious ceremony.
Usually common sense prevails after discussions with the Asian elders and the local residents. Specific days are nominated when it is mutually agreed that the calls will take place, but generally these days are only 2 or 3 days per year. What would happen if the muezzin refused to stop the call, one can only speculate.
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| Off Topic: Thick End of The Wedge on 14:52 - Jan 27 with 3875 views | nordenblue |
| Off Topic: Thick End of The Wedge on 13:53 - Jan 27 by Bobbyjoe |
Just a coincidence, then. |
Get yourself introduced to a dictionary before posting ridiculous comments,in no way was his question offensive or abusive in any way shape or form,using your analogy would I be racist if I asked the question "why do the Spanish celebrate Christmas twice every year"? | | | |
| Off Topic: Thick End of The Wedge on 15:05 - Jan 27 with 3859 views | D_Alien |
| Off Topic: Thick End of The Wedge on 14:52 - Jan 27 by nordenblue |
Get yourself introduced to a dictionary before posting ridiculous comments,in no way was his question offensive or abusive in any way shape or form,using your analogy would I be racist if I asked the question "why do the Spanish celebrate Christmas twice every year"? |
You've got me wondering what the answer is to that one nb? | |
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| Off Topic: Thick End of The Wedge on 15:06 - Jan 27 with 3856 views | Bobbyjoe |
| Off Topic: Thick End of The Wedge on 14:52 - Jan 27 by nordenblue |
Get yourself introduced to a dictionary before posting ridiculous comments,in no way was his question offensive or abusive in any way shape or form,using your analogy would I be racist if I asked the question "why do the Spanish celebrate Christmas twice every year"? |
Well, I can't recall, off-hand, any threads questioning the legality of broadcasting any other loud sounds (music, say, or electioneering, or even tannoy-announcements from football grounds!). Of course I may have missed them. | | | |
| Off Topic: Thick End of The Wedge on 15:22 - Jan 27 with 3838 views | nordenblue |
| Off Topic: Thick End of The Wedge on 15:05 - Jan 27 by D_Alien |
You've got me wondering what the answer is to that one nb? |
They celebrate the regular christmas as we do in this country and another in January generally called the 3 kings where theres street carnivals where the children line the streets and the procession throws sweets and gifts to everyone within striking distance!!!Sorry for the racist reply | | | |
| Off Topic: Thick End of The Wedge on 15:24 - Jan 27 with 3834 views | D_Alien |
| Off Topic: Thick End of The Wedge on 15:06 - Jan 27 by Bobbyjoe |
Well, I can't recall, off-hand, any threads questioning the legality of broadcasting any other loud sounds (music, say, or electioneering, or even tannoy-announcements from football grounds!). Of course I may have missed them. |
I think what nb may be referring to is your choice of the word "racist".
It's what's sometimes known as a category error.
The question in the OP can be interpreted (if you choose to) as anti-muslim, but that's not racist as such.
Indeed, it could be said that you're being racist by inferring racism when the question is one of religion!!
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| Off Topic: Thick End of The Wedge on 15:35 - Jan 27 with 3816 views | Bobbyjoe |
| Off Topic: Thick End of The Wedge on 15:24 - Jan 27 by D_Alien |
I think what nb may be referring to is your choice of the word "racist".
It's what's sometimes known as a category error.
The question in the OP can be interpreted (if you choose to) as anti-muslim, but that's not racist as such.
Indeed, it could be said that you're being racist by inferring racism when the question is one of religion!!
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It's very convenient for many to hide behind semantics, D'Alien (Not you, I hasten to add), but if it walks like a duck and sounds like a duck, call it a duck. | | | |
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