| Oldham grooming gangs: Government blocks national inquiry on 21:32 - Jan 8 with 757 views | Gwyn737 |
| Oldham grooming gangs: Government blocks national inquiry on 21:00 - Jan 8 by Luther27 |
So you’re saying we ignore grooming gang child abuse because it only constitutes approx 3.7% of total child abuse? Well that’s a great message to the abusers.
Heard that figure quoted by a Sky journalist the other night. |
I think it’s more that a national inquiry may not be the best way to address it.
Its such a particular issue there should be a faster and more focussed way. |  | |  |
| Oldham grooming gangs: Government blocks national inquiry on 21:38 - Jan 8 with 741 views | Dr_Winston |
There certainly needs to be a national inquiry as to why Police Forces and Social Services all over the UK were far more afraid of being called Racist than they were of young girls being abused.
The problem for Starmer it's his people who helped to create that environment. The "Common Purpose" types infesting Government, the legal profession, Academia and other areas. It's precisely why he's fighting so hard to avoid one. |  |
| Pain or damage don't end the world. Or despair, or f*cking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man... and give some back. |
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| Oldham grooming gangs: Government blocks national inquiry on 22:41 - Jan 8 with 674 views | JACKMANANDBOY |
| Oldham grooming gangs: Government blocks national inquiry on 21:38 - Jan 8 by Dr_Winston |
There certainly needs to be a national inquiry as to why Police Forces and Social Services all over the UK were far more afraid of being called Racist than they were of young girls being abused.
The problem for Starmer it's his people who helped to create that environment. The "Common Purpose" types infesting Government, the legal profession, Academia and other areas. It's precisely why he's fighting so hard to avoid one. |
Exactly, there's politicians tied up in this as well. [Post edited 8 Jan 22:42]
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| Oldham grooming gangs: Government blocks national inquiry on 06:34 - Jan 9 with 569 views | Scotia |
| Oldham grooming gangs: Government blocks national inquiry on 21:00 - Jan 8 by Luther27 |
So you’re saying we ignore grooming gang child abuse because it only constitutes approx 3.7% of total child abuse? Well that’s a great message to the abusers.
Heard that figure quoted by a Sky journalist the other night. |
No. Obviously not. There's been an investigation on all forms of child abuse who's results were published just 16 months ago.
There are obviously far bigger issues regarding child abuse than grooming gangs. The stats prove that.
If you really want to protect children a national inquiry in to grooming gangs is dealing with a very small part of a massive problem. And also probably not the most effective. | | | |
| Oldham grooming gangs: Government blocks national inquiry on 09:50 - Jan 9 with 503 views | onehunglow |
Real issue is why we have parents acting like this in the first place | |
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| Oldham grooming gangs: Government blocks national inquiry on 10:31 - Jan 9 with 471 views | Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
Got to laugh at the hypocrisy of Jess Phillips. She’s crying her eyes out saying her life has been turned upside down and she fears for her safety because Elon Musk has called her a rape apologist when a cursory glance at her Twitter account shows that she has used that exact terminology several times to attack pretty much everyone who disagreed with her over several years.
If you can’t take it don’t dish it out. |  |
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| Oldham grooming gangs: Government blocks national inquiry on 10:36 - Jan 9 with 468 views | onehunglow |
| Oldham grooming gangs: Government blocks national inquiry on 10:31 - Jan 9 by Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
Got to laugh at the hypocrisy of Jess Phillips. She’s crying her eyes out saying her life has been turned upside down and she fears for her safety because Elon Musk has called her a rape apologist when a cursory glance at her Twitter account shows that she has used that exact terminology several times to attack pretty much everyone who disagreed with her over several years.
If you can’t take it don’t dish it out. |
Indeed
Both her and the excreable Ange turn my stomach
And no I wouldn’t . | |
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| Oldham grooming gangs: Government blocks national inquiry on 10:42 - Jan 9 with 461 views | Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
| Oldham grooming gangs: Government blocks national inquiry on 10:36 - Jan 9 by onehunglow |
Indeed
Both her and the excreable Ange turn my stomach
And no I wouldn’t . |
They are all thick as shit. Even Starmer who despite being notoriously boring, dull and studious only managed a B and two C’s at A-level. Human rights law isn’t proper law either so it’s a mystery how he’s got as far as he has with zero personality and limited intelligence. | |
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| Oldham grooming gangs: Government blocks national inquiry on 10:48 - Jan 9 with 457 views | onehunglow |
| Oldham grooming gangs: Government blocks national inquiry on 10:42 - Jan 9 by Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
They are all thick as shit. Even Starmer who despite being notoriously boring, dull and studious only managed a B and two C’s at A-level. Human rights law isn’t proper law either so it’s a mystery how he’s got as far as he has with zero personality and limited intelligence. |
Morning
It all makes me wish I had stayed on at school. | |
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| Oldham grooming gangs: Government blocks national inquiry on 10:53 - Jan 9 with 450 views | Boundy |
| Oldham grooming gangs: Government blocks national inquiry on 11:06 - Jan 8 by Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
Absolutely. We saw the Hillsborough and postmaster inquiries kicked down the road for decades. Now they are doing the same here. But when they want to limit the freedom of the press or find out whether Boris had a party or not these inquiries are rushed through.
The grooming gangs thing is not a local issue. It’s a national scandal. |
Its estimated that these events has happened are happening in 50 towns and cities of this country, take that in 50, obviously there are other ethnicities carrying out these crimes , but are they being carried out in such an orchestrated manner as we've witnessed in Oldham Rotherham etc. Who'd want to have a child especially a young girl growing up in this country knowing that they will not receive the protection of those whose duty it is to protect.
When a whole political party is too afraid to go against its leadership because of censure within and we allow it then society in this country is doomed to failure. | |
| "In a free society, the State is the servant of the people—not the master." |
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| Oldham grooming gangs: Government blocks national inquiry on 10:58 - Jan 9 with 445 views | onehunglow |
| Oldham grooming gangs: Government blocks national inquiry on 21:00 - Jan 8 by Luther27 |
So you’re saying we ignore grooming gang child abuse because it only constitutes approx 3.7% of total child abuse? Well that’s a great message to the abusers.
Heard that figure quoted by a Sky journalist the other night. |
I’m not sure I read Scotia s post correctly
Apparently I did.
No words | |
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| Oldham grooming gangs: Government blocks national inquiry on 11:26 - Jan 9 with 430 views | Scotia |
| Oldham grooming gangs: Government blocks national inquiry on 10:58 - Jan 9 by onehunglow |
I’m not sure I read Scotia s post correctly
Apparently I did.
No words |
The already published report focussed on abuse in these broad areas:-
Migration
Custody
Religious settings.
The internet
Local Authority care
Residential schools
Outsdie the Uk.
Westminster.
Organised Gangs.
If this debate was focussed on a national inquiry for each individually then I'm fine with that. But I don't see why if we're to have one it should be for organised gangs? It's also important that many of the victims want a local inquiry to point the finger directly at those responsible for their situation not in the broad terms a national inquiry would do - and already has done.
If someone can justify priortising gangs over the other sources of abuse please do so.
As I've said before if Musk wants to get involved and actually protect children he could be very useful in gaining a huge understanding on one of those topics. He clearly doesn't. He's not interested in protecting a single child on this planet, he could do so easily right now. | | | |
| Oldham grooming gangs: Government blocks national inquiry on 12:57 - Jan 9 with 374 views | AnotherJohn |
| Oldham grooming gangs: Government blocks national inquiry on 11:26 - Jan 9 by Scotia |
The already published report focussed on abuse in these broad areas:-
Migration
Custody
Religious settings.
The internet
Local Authority care
Residential schools
Outsdie the Uk.
Westminster.
Organised Gangs.
If this debate was focussed on a national inquiry for each individually then I'm fine with that. But I don't see why if we're to have one it should be for organised gangs? It's also important that many of the victims want a local inquiry to point the finger directly at those responsible for their situation not in the broad terms a national inquiry would do - and already has done.
If someone can justify priortising gangs over the other sources of abuse please do so.
As I've said before if Musk wants to get involved and actually protect children he could be very useful in gaining a huge understanding on one of those topics. He clearly doesn't. He's not interested in protecting a single child on this planet, he could do so easily right now. |
As I see things, the idea that the rape gangs are just a small part of a larger problem and no more deserving of attention than other domains covered by the 2022 Inquiry, is just a continuation of the narrative we’ve seen from “progressive” commentators right back to the time the problem first surfaced. Why might we think the gangs deserve special attention? I suggest the following:
These were at the extreme end of sexual offences, more extreme than in most other domains covered. The gang phenomenon involved rape (often gang rape), trafficking of minors for sex, pimping, some killings, torture, and supply of drugs to minors.
There was a racial and cultural dimension, involving a view of young white girls from disadvantaged backgrounds as morally-worthless persons who could be exploited and discarded. This took a more extreme form than in the other domains, and raised wider societal questions about the integration of a certain minority population into British society.
There was a cover-up in this domain that seems to have been orchestrated and coordinated in a way that spans multiple organisations and institutions, and the line taken at the front line may have been influenced by messages passed down from very high levels, allegedly including government ministers. There were cover-ups in other domains, but not with this extraordinary level of coordination.
No senior person in any of the institutions involved in the scandal has been brought to book. Looking at other domains covered by the 2022 inquiry there has been some if all too rare examples of accountability: an archbishop has been brought down; a leading newsreader who viewed internet porn was convicted; a few culpable schools like Maidwell Hall have closed.
Can the UK campaign effectively for a halt to child abuse abroad if it does not first get its own house in order? While this must obviously include action in areas like abuse of children in schools and residential care, and indeed in private family settings, the rape gangs are perhaps the most visible manifestation of problems in our own country.
There is widespread concern about the number of unpunished individuals still at liberty, plus inadequate penalties for those convicted, and failure to implement promised deportations. This is a more visible public scandal than in other areas covered in the 2022 Inquiry.
This is a hotter public issue than any of the other domains. Just google “child abuse UK” and see what comes up. | | | |
| Oldham grooming gangs: Government blocks national inquiry on 14:37 - Jan 9 with 317 views | onehunglow |
Very simply,working class girls in these towns are seen as trash by certain ethnic groups | |
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| Oldham grooming gangs: Government blocks national inquiry on 15:12 - Jan 9 with 293 views | Boundy |
| Oldham grooming gangs: Government blocks national inquiry on 14:37 - Jan 9 by onehunglow |
Very simply,working class girls in these towns are seen as trash by certain ethnic groups |
This . people are too scared to say it as it is due to the woke brigade having too much power and influence .But for me there are two factors driving this , the Muslim faith and the feeble minded, afraid to speak up establishment.
I wonder how much of this ideology is being driven by mosques, that anyone not a muslim is therefore inferior and not worthy , where you have Iman's preaching that the Muslim faith is the only faith and therefore any non believers are to be treated with disrespect at best and worst what we have been discussing o this thread.
Until these issues are addressed then acts such as these will continue . | |
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| Oldham grooming gangs: Government blocks national inquiry on 15:28 - Jan 9 with 285 views | Boundy |
For future reference
These are the MPs who voted against the amendment to hold a national inquiry into the grooming gangs
Jack Abbott (Labour – Ipswich)
Debbie Abrahams (Labour – Oldham East and Saddleworth)
Shockat Adam (Independent – Leicester South)
Zubir Ahmed (Labour – Glasgow South West)
Luke Akehurst (Labour – North Durham)
Sadik Al-Hassan (Labour – North Somerset)
Bayo Alaba (Labour – Southend East and Rochford)
Dan Aldridge (Labour – Weston-super-Mare)
Heidi Alexander (Labour – Swindon South)
Douglas Alexander (Labour – Lothian East)
Rushanara Ali (Labour – Bethnal Green and Stepney)
Tahir Ali (Labour – Birmingham Hall Green and Moseley)
Rosena Allin-Khan (Labour – Tooting)
Mike Amesbury (Independent – Runcorn and Helsby) (Proxy vote cast by Chris Elmore)
Callum Anderson (Labour – Buckingham and Bletchley)
Fleur Anderson (Labour – Putney)
Tonia Antoniazzi (Labour – Gower)
Scott Arthur (Labour – Edinburgh South West)
Jess Asato (Labour – Lowestoft)
James Asser (Labour – West Ham and Beckton)
Jas Athwal (Labour – Ilford South)
Catherine Atkinson (Labour – Derby North)
Lewis Atkinson (Labour – Sunderland Central)
Calvin Bailey (Labour – Leyton and Wanstead)
Olivia Bailey (Labour – Reading West and Mid Berkshire)
David Baines (Labour – St Helens North)
Alex Baker (Labour – Aldershot)
Richard Baker (Labour – Glenrothes and Mid Fife)
Alex Ballinger (Labour – Halesowen)
Antonia Bance (Labour – Tipton and Wednesbury)
Lee Barron (Labour – Corby and East Northamptonshire)
Alex Barros-Curtis (Labour – Cardiff West)
Johanna Baxter (Labour – Paisley and Renfrewshire South)
Danny Beales (Labour – Uxbridge and South Ruislip)
Lorraine Beavers (Labour – Blackpool North and Fleetwood)
Apsana Begum (Independent – Poplar and Limehouse)
Torsten Bell (Labour – Swansea West)
Hilary Benn (Labour – Leeds South)
Siân Berry (Green Party – Brighton Pavilion)
Clive Betts (Labour – Sheffield South East)
Polly Billington (Labour – East Thanet)
Matt Bishop (Labour – Forest of Dean)
Olivia Blake (Labour – Sheffield Hallam) (Proxy vote cast by Chris Elmore)
Rachel Blake (Labour – Cities of London and Westminster)
Chris Bloore (Labour – Redditch)
Elsie Blundell (Labour – Heywood and Middleton North) (Proxy vote cast by Chris Elmore)
Kevin Bonavia (Labour – Stevenage)
Jade Botterill (Labour – Ossett and Denby Dale)
Sureena Brackenridge (Labour – Wolverhampton North East)
Jonathan Brash (Labour – Hartlepool)
Phil Brickell (Labour – Bolton West)
Chris Bryant (Labour – Rhondda and Ogmore)
Julia Buckley (Labour – Shrewsbury)
Richard Burgon (Independent – Leeds East)
Maureen Burke (Labour – Glasgow North East)
David Burton-Sampson (Labour – Southend West and Leigh)
Dawn Butler (Labour – Brent East)
Ruth Cadbury (Labour – Brentford and Isleworth)
Nesil Caliskan (Labour – Barking)
Markus Campbell-Savours (Labour – Penrith and Solway)
Irene Campbell (Labour – North Ayrshire and Arran)
Juliet Campbell (Labour – Broxtowe)
Alan Campbell (Labour – Tynemouth)
Sam Carling (Labour – North West Cambridgeshire)
Sarah Champion (Labour – Rotherham)
Bambos Charalambous (Labour – Southgate and Wood Green)
Luke Charters (Labour – York Outer)
Ellie Chowns (Green Party – North Herefordshire)
Feryal Clark (Labour – Enfield North)
Ben Coleman (Labour – Chelsea and Fulham)
Jacob Collier (Labour – Burton and Uttoxeter)
Lizzi Collinge (Labour – Morecambe and Lunesdale)
Tom Collins (Labour – Worcester)
Liam Conlon (Labour – Beckenham and Penge)
Sarah Coombes (Labour – West Bromwich)
Andrew Cooper (Labour – Mid Cheshire)
Beccy Cooper (Labour – Worthing West)
Yvette Cooper (Labour – Pontefract, Castleford and Knottingley)
Jeremy Corbyn (Independent – Islington North)
Deirdre Costigan (Labour – Ealing Southall)
Pam Cox (Labour – Colchester)
Neil Coyle (Labour – Bermondsey and Old Southwark)
Jen Craft (Labour – Thurrock)
Stella Creasy (Labour – Walthamstow)
Torcuil Crichton (Labour – Na h-Eileanan an Iar)
Chris Curtis (Labour – Milton Keynes North)
Janet Daby (Labour – Lewisham East)
Nicholas Dakin (Labour – Scunthorpe)
Ashley Dalton (Labour – West Lancashire)
Emily Darlington (Labour – Milton Keynes Central)
Alex Davies-Jones (Labour – Pontypridd)
Jonathan Davies (Labour – Mid Derbyshire)
Paul Davies (Labour – Colne Valley)
Kate Dearden (Labour – Halifax)
Marsha De Cordova (Labour – Battersea)
Josh Dean (Labour – Hertford and Stortford)
Tanmanjeet Singh Dhesi (Labour – Slough)
Jim Dickson (Labour – Dartford)
Anna Dixon (Labour – Shipley)
Samantha Dixon (Labour – Chester North and Neston)
Anneliese Dodds (Labour – Oxford East)
Helena Dollimore (Labour – Hastings and Rye)
Stephen Doughty (Labour – Cardiff South and Penarth)
Peter Dowd (Labour – Bootle)
Graeme Downie (Labour – Dunfermline and Dollar)
Rosie Duffield (Independent – Canterbury)
Neil Duncan-Jordan (Labour – Poole)
Angela Eagle (Labour – Wallasey)
Maria Eagle (Labour – Liverpool Garston)
Lauren Edwards (Labour – Rochester and Strood)
Sarah Edwards (Labour – Tamworth)
Clive Efford (Labour – Eltham and Chislehurst)
Damien Egan (Labour – Bristol North East)
Maya Ellis (Labour – Ribble Valley)
Chris Elmore (Labour – Bridgend)
Kirith Entwistle (Labour – Bolton North East)
Florence Eshalomi (Labour – Vauxhall and Camberwell Green)
Bill Esterson (Labour – Sefton Central)
Chris Evans (Labour – Caerphilly)
Linsey Farnsworth (Labour – Amber Valley)
Josh Fenton-Glynn (Labour – Calder Valley)
Mark Ferguson (Labour – Gateshead Central and Whickham)
Patricia Ferguson (Labour – Glasgow West)
Natalie Fleet (Labour – Bolsover)
Emma Foody (Labour – Cramlington and Killingworth)
Catherine Fookes (Labour – Monmouthshire)
Vicky Foxcroft (Labour – Lewisham North)
Daniel Francis (Labour – Bexleyheath and Crayford)
James Frith (Labour – Bury North)
Gill Furniss (Labour – Sheffield Brightside and Hillsborough)
Barry Gardiner (Labour – Brent West)
Allison Gardner (Labour – Stoke-on-Trent South)
Anna Gelderd (Labour – South East Cornwall)
Gill German (Labour – Clwyd North)
Tracy Gilbert (Labour – Edinburgh North and Leith)
Becky Gittins (Labour – Clwyd East)
Mary Glindon (Labour – Newcastle upon Tyne East and Wallsend)
Ben Goldsborough (Labour – South Norfolk)
Jodie Gosling (Labour – Nuneaton)
Georgia Gould (Labour – Queen’s Park and Maida Vale)
John Grady (Labour – Glasgow East)
Lilian Greenwood (Labour – Nottingham South)
Nia Griffith (Labour – Llanelli)
Andrew Gwynne (Labour – Gorton and Denton)
Amanda Hack (Labour – North West Leicestershire)
Paulette Hamilton (Labour – Birmingham Erdington)
Emma Hardy (Labour – Kingston upon Hull West and Haltemprice)
Carolyn Harris (Labour – Neath and Swansea East)
Helen Hayes (Labour – Dulwich and West Norwood)
Tom Hayes (Labour – Bournemouth East)
Claire Hazelgrove (Labour – Filton and Bradley Stoke)
Mark Hendrick (Labour – Preston)
Meg Hillier (Labour – Hackney South and Shoreditch)
Chris Hinchliff (Labour – North East Hertfordshire)
Sharon Hodgson (Labour – Washington and Gateshead South)
Rachel Hopkins (Labour – Luton South and South Bedfordshire)
Claire Hughes (Labour – Bangor Aberconwy)
Alison Hume (Labour – Scarborough and Whitby)
Patrick Hurley (Labour – Southport)
Imran Hussain (Independent – Bradford East)
Leigh Ingham (Labour – Stafford)
Natasha Irons (Labour – Croydon East)
Sally Jameson (Labour – Doncaster Central)
Dan Jarvis (Labour – Barnsley North)
Terry Jermy (Labour – South West Norfolk)
Adam Jogee (Labour – Newcastle-under-Lyme)
Diana Johnson (Labour – Kingston upon Hull North and Cottingham)
Darren Jones (Labour – Bristol North West)
Gerald Jones (Labour – Merthyr Tydfil and Aberdare)
Lillian Jones (Labour – Kilmarnock and Loudoun)
Louise Jones (Labour – North East Derbyshire)
Ruth Jones (Labour – Newport West and Islwyn)
Sarah Jones (Labour – Croydon West)
Gurinder Singh Josan (Labour – Smethwick)
Sojan Joseph (Labour – Ashford)
Warinder Juss (Labour – Wolverhampton West)
Chris Kane (Labour – Stirling and Strathallan)
Mike Kane (Labour – Wythenshawe and Sale East)
Satvir Kaur (Labour – Southampton Test) (Proxy vote cast by Chris Elmore)
Liz Kendall (Labour – Leicester West)
Afzal Khan (Labour – Manchester Rusholme)
Naushabah Khan (Labour – Gillingham and Rainham)
Stephen Kinnock (Labour – Aberafan Maesteg)
Jayne Kirkham (Labour – Truro and Falmouth)
Gen Kitchen (Labour – Wellingborough and Rushden)
Sonia Kumar (Labour – Dudley)
Uma Kumaran (Labour – Stratford and Bow)
Peter Kyle (Labour – Hove and Portslade)
Laura Kyrke-Smith (Labour – Aylesbury)
Peter Lamb (Labour – Crawley)
Ian Lavery (Labour – Blyth and Ashington)
Noah Law (Labour – St Austell and Newquay)
Kim Leadbeater (Labour – Spen Valley)
Brian Leishman (Labour – Alloa and Grangemouth)
Emma Lewell-Buck (Labour – South Shields)
Andrew Lewin (Labour – Welwyn Hatfield)
Clive Lewis (Labour – Norwich South)
Simon Lightwood (Labour – Wakefield and Rothwell)
Rebecca Long Bailey (Independent – Salford)
Josh MacAlister (Labour – Whitehaven and Workington)
Alice Macdonald (Labour – Norwich North)
Andy MacNae (Labour – Rossendale and Darwen)
Justin Madders (Labour – Ellesmere Port and Bromborough)
Shabana Mahmood (Labour – Birmingham Ladywood)
Seema Malhotra (Labour – Feltham and Heston)
Amanda Martin (Labour – Portsmouth North)
Rachael Maskell (Labour – York Central)
Keir Mather (Labour – Selby)
Alex Mayer (Labour – Dunstable and Leighton Buzzard)
Douglas McAllister (Labour – West Dunbartonshire)
Kerry McCarthy (Labour – Bristol East)
Martin McCluskey (Labour – Inverclyde and Renfrewshire West)
Andy McDonald (Labour – Middlesbrough and Thornaby East)
Chris McDonald (Labour – Stockton North)
John McDonnell (Independent – Hayes and Harlington)
Blair McDougall (Labour – East Renfrewshire)
Lola McEvoy (Labour – Darlington)
Pat McFadden (Labour – Wolverhampton South East)
Alison McGovern (Labour – Birkenhead)
Alex McIntyre (Labour – Gloucester)
Gordon McKee (Labour – Glasgow South)
Kevin McKenna (Labour – Sittingbourne and Sheppey)
Catherine McKinnell (Labour – Newcastle upon Tyne North)
Jim McMahon (Labour – Oldham West, Chadderton and Royton)
Anna McMorrin (Labour – Cardiff North)
Frank McNally (Labour – Coatbridge and Bellshill)
Kirsty McNeill (Labour – Midlothian)
Anneliese Midgley (Labour – Knowsley)
Julie Minns (Labour – Carlisle)
Navendu Mishra (Labour – Stockport)
Abtisam Mohamed (Labour – Sheffield Central)
Iqbal Mohamed (Independent – Dewsbury and Batley)
Perran Moon (Labour – Camborne and Redruth)
Jessica Morden (Labour – Newport East)
Stephen Morgan (Labour – Portsmouth South)
Grahame Morris (Labour – Easington)
Joe Morris (Labour – Hexham)
Luke Murphy (Labour – Basingstoke)
Chris Murray (Labour – Edinburgh East and Musselburgh)
Ian Murray (Labour – Edinburgh South)
James Murray (Labour – Ealing North)
Katrina Murray (Labour – Cumbernauld and Kirkintilloch)
Luke Myer (Labour – Middlesbrough South and East Cleveland)
James Naish (Labour – Rushcliffe)
Connor Naismith (Labour – Crewe and Nantwich)
Lisa Nandy (Labour – Wigan)
Kanishka Narayan (Labour – Vale of Glamorgan)
Josh Newbury (Labour – Cannock Chase)
Samantha Niblett (Labour – South Derbyshire)
Charlotte Nichols (Labour – Warrington North)
Melanie Onn (Labour – Great Grimsby and Cleethorpes)
Chi Onwurah (Labour – Newcastle upon Tyne Central and West)
Simon Opher (Labour – Stroud)
Abena Oppong-Asare (Labour – Erith and Thamesmead)
Kate Osamor (Labour – Edmonton and Winchmore Hill)
Kate Osborne (Labour – Jarrow and Gateshead East)
Tristan Osborne (Labour – Chatham and Aylesford)
Taiwo Owatemi (Labour – Coventry North West)
Sarah Owen (Labour – Luton North)
Darren Paffey (Labour – Southampton Itchen)
Andrew Pakes (Labour – Peterborough)
Matthew Patrick (Labour – Wirral West)
Michael Payne (Labour – Gedling)
Stephanie Peacock (Labour – Barnsley South)
Jon Pearce (Labour – High Peak)
Matthew Pennycook (Labour – Greenwich and Woolwich)
Toby Perkins (Labour – Chesterfield)
Jess Phillips (Labour – Birmingham Yardley)
Bridget Phillipson (Labour – Houghton and Sunderland South)
David Pinto-Duschinsky (Labour – Hendon)
Lee Pitcher (Labour – Doncaster East and the Isle of Axholme)
Jo Platt (Labour – Leigh and Atherton)
Luke Pollard (Labour – Plymouth Sutton and Devonport)
Joe Powell (Labour – Kensington and Bayswater)
Lucy Powell (Labour – Manchester Central)
Gregor Poynton (Labour – Livingston)
Peter Prinsley (Labour – Bury St Edmunds and Stowmarket)
Richard Quigley (Labour – Isle of Wight West)
Steve Race (Labour – Exeter)
Connor Rand (Labour – Altrincham and Sale West)
Andrew Ranger (Labour – Wrexham)
Mike Reader (Labour – Northampton South)
Ellie Reeves (Labour – Lewisham West and East Dulwich)
Joani Reid (Labour – East Kilbride and Strathaven)
Emma Reynolds (Labour – Wycombe)
Martin Rhodes (Labour – Glasgow North)
Jake Richards (Labour – Rother Valley)
Jenny Riddell-Carpenter (Labour – Suffolk Coastal)
Dave Robertson (Labour – Lichfield)
Tim Roca (Labour – Macclesfield)
Matt Rodda (Labour – Reading Central)
Sam Rushworth (Labour – Bishop Auckland)
Sarah Russell (Labour – Congleton)
Oliver Ryan (Labour – Burnley)
Jeevun Sandher (Labour – Loughborough)
Michelle Scrogham (Labour – Barrow and Furness)
Mark Sewards (Labour – Leeds South West and Morley)
Naz Shah (Labour – Bradford West)
Tulip Siddiq (Labour – Hampstead and Highgate)
Josh Simons (Labour – Makerfield)
Andy Slaughter (Labour – Hammersmith and Chiswick)
John Slinger (Labour – Rugby)
Cat Smith (Labour – Lancaster and Wyre)
David Smith (Labour – North Northumberland)
Jeff Smith (Labour – Manchester Withington)
Nick Smith (Labour – Blaenau Gwent and Rhymney)
Sarah Smith (Labour – Hyndburn)
Karin Smyth (Labour – Bristol South)
Gareth Snell (Labour – Stoke-on-Trent Central)
Alex Sobel (Labour – Leeds Central and Headingley)
Euan Stainbank (Labour – Falkirk)
Jo Stevens (Labour – Cardiff East)
Kenneth Stevenson (Labour – Airdrie and Shotts)
Elaine Stewart (Labour – Ayr, Carrick and Cumnock)
Will Stone (Labour – Swindon North)
Alistair Strathern (Labour – Hitchin)
Alan Strickland (Labour – Newton Aycliffe and Spennymoor)
Lauren Sullivan (Labour – Gravesham)
Kirsteen Sullivan (Labour – Bathgate and Linlithgow)
Peter Swallow (Labour – Bracknell)
Mark Tami (Labour – Alyn and Deeside)
Mike Tapp (Labour – Dover and Deal)
David Taylor (Labour – Hemel Hempstead)
Rachel Taylor (Labour – North Warwickshire and Bedworth)
Nick Thomas-Symonds (Labour – Torfaen)
Fred Thomas (Labour – Plymouth Moor View) (Proxy vote cast by Chris Elmore)
Gareth Thomas (Labour – Harrow West)
Adam Thompson (Labour – Erewash)
Emily Thornberry (Labour – Islington South and Finsbury)
Marie Tidball (Labour – Penistone and Stocksbridge)
Stephen Timms (Labour – East Ham)
Jessica Toale (Labour – Bournemouth West)
Jon Trickett (Labour – Normanton and Hemsworth)
Henry Tufnell (Labour – Mid and South Pembrokeshire)
Anna Turley (Labour – Redcar)
Matt Turmaine (Labour – Watford)
Karl Turner (Labour – Kingston upon Hull East)
Laurence Turner (Labour – Birmingham Northfield)
Derek Twigg (Labour – Widnes and Halewood)
Liz Twist (Labour – Blaydon and Consett)
Harpreet Uppal (Labour – Huddersfield)
Valerie Vaz (Labour – Walsall and Bloxwich)
Chris Vince (Labour – Harlow)
Christian Wakeford (Labour – Bury South)
Imogen Walker (Labour – Hamilton and Clyde Valley)
Chris Ward (Labour – Brighton Kemptown and Peacehaven)
Melanie Ward (Labour – Cowdenbeath and Kirkcaldy)
Paul Waugh (Labour – Rochdale)
Chris Webb (Labour – Blackpool South)
Michelle Welsh (Labour – Sherwood Forest)
Catherine West (Labour – Hornsey and Friern Barnet)
Andrew Western (Labour – Stretford and Urmston)
Matt Western (Labour – Warwick and Leamington)
Michael Wheeler (Labour – Worsley and Eccles)
John Whitby (Labour – Derbyshire Dales)
Jo White (Labour – Bassetlaw)
Katie White (Labour – Leeds North West)
Nadia Whittome (Labour – Nottingham East)
David Williams (Labour – Stoke-on-Trent North)
Steve Witherden (Labour – Montgomeryshire and Glyndŵr)
Rosie Wrighting (Labour – Kettering)
Yuan Yang (Labour – Earley and Woodley)
Mohammad Yasin (Labour – Bedford)
Steve Yemm (Labour – Mansfield) | |
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| Oldham grooming gangs: Government blocks national inquiry on 15:45 - Jan 9 with 271 views | Scotia |
| Oldham grooming gangs: Government blocks national inquiry on 14:37 - Jan 9 by onehunglow |
Very simply,working class girls in these towns are seen as trash by certain ethnic groups |
Girls are seen as trash by many groups all over the world. | | | |
| Oldham grooming gangs: Government blocks national inquiry on 16:04 - Jan 9 with 266 views | Scotia |
| Oldham grooming gangs: Government blocks national inquiry on 12:57 - Jan 9 by AnotherJohn |
As I see things, the idea that the rape gangs are just a small part of a larger problem and no more deserving of attention than other domains covered by the 2022 Inquiry, is just a continuation of the narrative we’ve seen from “progressive” commentators right back to the time the problem first surfaced. Why might we think the gangs deserve special attention? I suggest the following:
These were at the extreme end of sexual offences, more extreme than in most other domains covered. The gang phenomenon involved rape (often gang rape), trafficking of minors for sex, pimping, some killings, torture, and supply of drugs to minors.
There was a racial and cultural dimension, involving a view of young white girls from disadvantaged backgrounds as morally-worthless persons who could be exploited and discarded. This took a more extreme form than in the other domains, and raised wider societal questions about the integration of a certain minority population into British society.
There was a cover-up in this domain that seems to have been orchestrated and coordinated in a way that spans multiple organisations and institutions, and the line taken at the front line may have been influenced by messages passed down from very high levels, allegedly including government ministers. There were cover-ups in other domains, but not with this extraordinary level of coordination.
No senior person in any of the institutions involved in the scandal has been brought to book. Looking at other domains covered by the 2022 inquiry there has been some if all too rare examples of accountability: an archbishop has been brought down; a leading newsreader who viewed internet porn was convicted; a few culpable schools like Maidwell Hall have closed.
Can the UK campaign effectively for a halt to child abuse abroad if it does not first get its own house in order? While this must obviously include action in areas like abuse of children in schools and residential care, and indeed in private family settings, the rape gangs are perhaps the most visible manifestation of problems in our own country.
There is widespread concern about the number of unpunished individuals still at liberty, plus inadequate penalties for those convicted, and failure to implement promised deportations. This is a more visible public scandal than in other areas covered in the 2022 Inquiry.
This is a hotter public issue than any of the other domains. Just google “child abuse UK” and see what comes up. |
I think your last sentence sums this argument up. It's a hotter public topic than the other domains for one reason, it's got nothing to do with the victims who should be front and centre. All other aspects covered in the inquiry have more victims, over a larger geographical area by perpertrators who are harder to spot and victims from all walks of life.
There are far more victims and potential victims to the other sources of abuse. My daughter will never be abused by an Asian gang but she is at risk on the internet or in school for example. Many others are at risk in places of worship or residential schools.
Extreme sexual offences are happening right now on the internet, with younger children and more men.
Vulnerable kids are being used to traffic drugs within 3 miles of my front door.
Young white girls are being exploited by people in authority everywhere. I've seen it myself, you probably have too.
Cover ups have occured in all other organisations to - just look at the reasons for the Archbishop of Cantebury's resignation.
The rape gangs are visible because people in certain areas of the media and politics want them to be - it's not about protecting children which is all that really matters.
Fundamentally though the vast majority of the gang abuse has happened in a small corner of a small country. Encompassing maybe 4 or 5 local authorities, wouldn't it be better (for the victims) for any inquiry to focus on those small areas where local problems, service and the people involved can be pinpointed rather than a generic high level look at the heads of service whoch is what a national inquiry would do? | | | |
| Oldham grooming gangs: Government blocks national inquiry on 16:17 - Jan 9 with 261 views | AnotherJohn |
| Oldham grooming gangs: Government blocks national inquiry on 16:04 - Jan 9 by Scotia |
I think your last sentence sums this argument up. It's a hotter public topic than the other domains for one reason, it's got nothing to do with the victims who should be front and centre. All other aspects covered in the inquiry have more victims, over a larger geographical area by perpertrators who are harder to spot and victims from all walks of life.
There are far more victims and potential victims to the other sources of abuse. My daughter will never be abused by an Asian gang but she is at risk on the internet or in school for example. Many others are at risk in places of worship or residential schools.
Extreme sexual offences are happening right now on the internet, with younger children and more men.
Vulnerable kids are being used to traffic drugs within 3 miles of my front door.
Young white girls are being exploited by people in authority everywhere. I've seen it myself, you probably have too.
Cover ups have occured in all other organisations to - just look at the reasons for the Archbishop of Cantebury's resignation.
The rape gangs are visible because people in certain areas of the media and politics want them to be - it's not about protecting children which is all that really matters.
Fundamentally though the vast majority of the gang abuse has happened in a small corner of a small country. Encompassing maybe 4 or 5 local authorities, wouldn't it be better (for the victims) for any inquiry to focus on those small areas where local problems, service and the people involved can be pinpointed rather than a generic high level look at the heads of service whoch is what a national inquiry would do? |
We shall have to agree to disagree. It is good to make people set out their arguments so that others can judge the strength of the claims. My preference is either a focused public inquiry or some form of action-oriented intervention with teeth (unlikely but more effective), and not the very limited measures and evasion of key issues that the government is trying to get away with.
I see that our Swansea West MP is all for the latter. [Post edited 9 Jan 16:44]
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| Oldham grooming gangs: Government blocks national inquiry on 16:28 - Jan 9 with 254 views | Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
| Oldham grooming gangs: Government blocks national inquiry on 15:45 - Jan 9 by Scotia |
Girls are seen as trash by many groups all over the world. |
That’s ok then. | |
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| Oldham grooming gangs: Government blocks national inquiry on 17:23 - Jan 9 with 213 views | Gwyn737 |
He’s a list of MPs voting against the Children’s Wellbeing bill, which contained massively important safeguards for some of our most vulnerable children in order to suck up to an American billionaire -
Jim Allister (Traditional Unionist Voice - North Antrim)
Lee Anderson (Reform UK - Ashfield)
Stuart Anderson (Conservative - South Shropshire) (Proxy vote cast by Gagan Mohindra)
Edward Argar (Conservative - Melton and Syston)
Victoria Atkins (Conservative - Louth and Horncastle)
Gareth Bacon (Conservative - Orpington)
Kemi Badenoch (Conservative - North West Essex)
Harriett Baldwin (Conservative - West Worcestershire)
Steve Barclay (Conservative - North East Cambridgeshire)
Peter Bedford (Conservative - Mid Leicestershire)
Saqib Bhatti (Conservative - Meriden and Solihull East)
Bob Blackman (Conservative - Harrow East)
Sarah Bool (Conservative - South Northamptonshire)
Aphra Brandreth (Conservative - Chester South and Eddisbury)
Alex Burghart (Conservative - Brentwood and Ongar)
James Cartlidge (Conservative - South Suffolk)
Christopher Chope (Conservative - Christchurch)
Geoffrey Clifton-Brown (Conservative - North Cotswolds)
Lewis Cocking (Conservative - Broxbourne)
John Cooper (Conservative - Dumfries and Galloway)
Alberto Costa (Conservative - South Leicestershire)
Claire Coutinho (Conservative - East Surrey) (Proxy vote cast by Joy Morrissey)
Harriet Cross (Conservative - Gordon and Buchan)
Gareth Davies (Conservative - Grantham and Bourne)
Mims Davies (Conservative - East Grinstead and Uckfield)
David Davis (Conservative - Goole and Pocklington)
Caroline Dinenage (Conservative - Gosport)
Oliver Dowden (Conservative - Hertsmere)
Iain Duncan Smith (Conservative - Chingford and Woodford Green)
Alex Easton (Independent - North Down)
Luke Evans (Conservative - Hinckley and Bosworth)
Nigel Farage (Reform UK - Clacton)
Peter Fortune (Conservative - Bromley and Biggin Hill)
Ashley Fox (Conservative - Bridgwater)
Mark Francois (Conservative - Rayleigh and Wickford)
George Freeman (Conservative - Mid Norfolk)
Louie French (Conservative - Old Bexley and Sidcup)
Roger Gale (Conservative - Herne Bay and Sandwich)
John Glen (Conservative - Salisbury)
Helen Grant (Conservative - Maidstone and Malling)
Andrew Griffith (Conservative - Arundel and South Downs)
Rebecca Harris (Conservative - Castle Point)
John Hayes (Conservative - South Holland and The Deepings)
Damian Hinds (Conservative - East Hampshire)
Richard Holden (Conservative - Basildon and Billericay)
Kevin Hollinrake (Conservative - Thirsk and Malton)
Paul Holmes (Conservative - Hamble Valley)
Nigel Huddleston (Conservative - Droitwich and Evesham)
Neil Hudson (Conservative - Epping Forest)
Jeremy Hunt (Conservative - Godalming and Ash)
Bernard Jenkin (Conservative - Harwich and North Essex)
Robert Jenrick (Conservative - Newark)
Caroline Johnson (Conservative - Sleaford and North Hykeham)
Lincoln Jopp (Conservative - Spelthorne)
Alicia Kearns (Conservative - Rutland and Stamford) (Proxy vote cast by Joy Morrissey)
Danny Kruger (Conservative - East Wiltshire)
Katie Lam (Conservative - Weald of Kent)
John Lamont (Conservative - Berwickshire, Roxburgh and Selkirk)
Edward Leigh (Conservative - Gainsborough)
Julian Lewis (Conservative - New Forest East)
Julia Lopez (Conservative - Hornchurch and Upminster)
Rupert Lowe (Reform UK - Great Yarmouth)
Alan Mak (Conservative - Havant)
Kit Malthouse (Conservative - North West Hampshire)
Jerome Mayhew (Conservative - Broadland and Fakenham)
James McMurdock (Reform UK - South Basildon and East Thurrock)
Esther McVey (Conservative - Tatton)
Andrew Mitchell (Conservative - Sutton Coldfield)
Gagan Mohindra (Conservative - South West Hertfordshire)
Robbie Moore (Conservative - Keighley and Ilkley)
Joy Morrissey (Conservative - Beaconsfield)
Wendy Morton (Conservative - Aldridge-Brownhills)
Kieran Mullan (Conservative - Bexhill and Battle)
David Mundell (Conservative - Dumfriesshire, Clydesdale and Tweeddale)
Andrew Murrison (Conservative - South West Wiltshire)
Jesse Norman (Conservative - Hereford and South Herefordshire)
Neil O'Brien (Conservative - Harborough, Oadby and Wigston)
Ben Obese-Jecty (Conservative - Huntingdon)
Priti Patel (Conservative - Witham)
Rebecca Paul (Conservative - Reigate)
Chris Philp (Conservative - Croydon South)
Mark Pritchard (Conservative - The Wrekin)
Jack Rankin (Conservative - Windsor)
David Reed (Conservative - Exmouth and Exeter East)
Andrew Rosindell (Conservative - Romford)
Jim Shannon (Democratic Unionist Party - Strangford)
Neil Shastri-Hurst (Conservative - Solihull West and Shirley)
Alec Shelbrooke (Conservative - Wetherby and Easingwold)
David Simmonds (Conservative - Ruislip, Northwood and Pinner)
Greg Smith (Conservative - Mid Buckinghamshire)
Rebecca Smith (Conservative - South West Devon)
Julian Smith (Conservative - Skipton and Ripon)
Ben Spencer (Conservative - Runnymede and Weybridge)
Patrick Spencer (Conservative - Central Suffolk and North Ipswich)
Gregory Stafford (Conservative - Farnham and Bordon)
Blake Stephenson (Conservative - Mid Bedfordshire)
Mel Stride (Conservative - Central Devon)
Graham Stuart (Conservative - Beverley and Holderness)
Robin Swann (Ulster Unionist Party - South Antrim)
Bradley Thomas (Conservative - Bromsgrove)
Richard Tice (Reform UK - Boston and Skegness)
Nick Timothy (Conservative - West Suffolk)
Laura Trott (Conservative - Sevenoaks)
Tom Tugendhat (Conservative - Tonbridge)
Martin Vickers (Conservative - Brigg and Immingham)
Matt Vickers (Conservative - Stockton West)
Helen Whately (Conservative - Faversham and Mid Kent)
John Whittingdale (Conservative - Maldon)
Gavin Williamson (Conservative - Stone, Great Wyrley and Penkridge)
Sammy Wilson (Democratic Unionist Party - East Antrim)
Mike Wood (Conservative - Kingswinford and South Staffordshire) [Post edited 9 Jan 17:32]
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| Oldham grooming gangs: Government blocks national inquiry on 17:46 - Jan 9 with 196 views | JACKMANANDBOY |
The whip was in place for Wednesday's vote! | |
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| Oldham grooming gangs: Government blocks national inquiry on 18:01 - Jan 9 with 186 views | Gwyn737 |
| Oldham grooming gangs: Government blocks national inquiry on 17:46 - Jan 9 by JACKMANANDBOY |
The whip was in place for Wednesday's vote! |
I doubt it was needed.
There is lots of really important stuff in that bill.
It’s a shame Musk didn’t just post ‘the uk should find the most efficient and effective way of dealing with the grooming gangs issue, ensuring those who did wrong are held accountable ‘
Not many clicks / much cash in that, though.
This would have been a much shorter thread. | | | |
| Oldham grooming gangs: Government blocks national inquiry on 18:35 - Jan 9 with 150 views | Scotia |
| Oldham grooming gangs: Government blocks national inquiry on 15:12 - Jan 9 by Boundy |
This . people are too scared to say it as it is due to the woke brigade having too much power and influence .But for me there are two factors driving this , the Muslim faith and the feeble minded, afraid to speak up establishment.
I wonder how much of this ideology is being driven by mosques, that anyone not a muslim is therefore inferior and not worthy , where you have Iman's preaching that the Muslim faith is the only faith and therefore any non believers are to be treated with disrespect at best and worst what we have been discussing o this thread.
Until these issues are addressed then acts such as these will continue . |
I doubt that's the root cause of any of it. | | | |
| Oldham grooming gangs: Government blocks national inquiry on 18:41 - Jan 9 with 146 views | Scotia |
| Oldham grooming gangs: Government blocks national inquiry on 17:23 - Jan 9 by Gwyn737 |
He’s a list of MPs voting against the Children’s Wellbeing bill, which contained massively important safeguards for some of our most vulnerable children in order to suck up to an American billionaire -
Jim Allister (Traditional Unionist Voice - North Antrim)
Lee Anderson (Reform UK - Ashfield)
Stuart Anderson (Conservative - South Shropshire) (Proxy vote cast by Gagan Mohindra)
Edward Argar (Conservative - Melton and Syston)
Victoria Atkins (Conservative - Louth and Horncastle)
Gareth Bacon (Conservative - Orpington)
Kemi Badenoch (Conservative - North West Essex)
Harriett Baldwin (Conservative - West Worcestershire)
Steve Barclay (Conservative - North East Cambridgeshire)
Peter Bedford (Conservative - Mid Leicestershire)
Saqib Bhatti (Conservative - Meriden and Solihull East)
Bob Blackman (Conservative - Harrow East)
Sarah Bool (Conservative - South Northamptonshire)
Aphra Brandreth (Conservative - Chester South and Eddisbury)
Alex Burghart (Conservative - Brentwood and Ongar)
James Cartlidge (Conservative - South Suffolk)
Christopher Chope (Conservative - Christchurch)
Geoffrey Clifton-Brown (Conservative - North Cotswolds)
Lewis Cocking (Conservative - Broxbourne)
John Cooper (Conservative - Dumfries and Galloway)
Alberto Costa (Conservative - South Leicestershire)
Claire Coutinho (Conservative - East Surrey) (Proxy vote cast by Joy Morrissey)
Harriet Cross (Conservative - Gordon and Buchan)
Gareth Davies (Conservative - Grantham and Bourne)
Mims Davies (Conservative - East Grinstead and Uckfield)
David Davis (Conservative - Goole and Pocklington)
Caroline Dinenage (Conservative - Gosport)
Oliver Dowden (Conservative - Hertsmere)
Iain Duncan Smith (Conservative - Chingford and Woodford Green)
Alex Easton (Independent - North Down)
Luke Evans (Conservative - Hinckley and Bosworth)
Nigel Farage (Reform UK - Clacton)
Peter Fortune (Conservative - Bromley and Biggin Hill)
Ashley Fox (Conservative - Bridgwater)
Mark Francois (Conservative - Rayleigh and Wickford)
George Freeman (Conservative - Mid Norfolk)
Louie French (Conservative - Old Bexley and Sidcup)
Roger Gale (Conservative - Herne Bay and Sandwich)
John Glen (Conservative - Salisbury)
Helen Grant (Conservative - Maidstone and Malling)
Andrew Griffith (Conservative - Arundel and South Downs)
Rebecca Harris (Conservative - Castle Point)
John Hayes (Conservative - South Holland and The Deepings)
Damian Hinds (Conservative - East Hampshire)
Richard Holden (Conservative - Basildon and Billericay)
Kevin Hollinrake (Conservative - Thirsk and Malton)
Paul Holmes (Conservative - Hamble Valley)
Nigel Huddleston (Conservative - Droitwich and Evesham)
Neil Hudson (Conservative - Epping Forest)
Jeremy Hunt (Conservative - Godalming and Ash)
Bernard Jenkin (Conservative - Harwich and North Essex)
Robert Jenrick (Conservative - Newark)
Caroline Johnson (Conservative - Sleaford and North Hykeham)
Lincoln Jopp (Conservative - Spelthorne)
Alicia Kearns (Conservative - Rutland and Stamford) (Proxy vote cast by Joy Morrissey)
Danny Kruger (Conservative - East Wiltshire)
Katie Lam (Conservative - Weald of Kent)
John Lamont (Conservative - Berwickshire, Roxburgh and Selkirk)
Edward Leigh (Conservative - Gainsborough)
Julian Lewis (Conservative - New Forest East)
Julia Lopez (Conservative - Hornchurch and Upminster)
Rupert Lowe (Reform UK - Great Yarmouth)
Alan Mak (Conservative - Havant)
Kit Malthouse (Conservative - North West Hampshire)
Jerome Mayhew (Conservative - Broadland and Fakenham)
James McMurdock (Reform UK - South Basildon and East Thurrock)
Esther McVey (Conservative - Tatton)
Andrew Mitchell (Conservative - Sutton Coldfield)
Gagan Mohindra (Conservative - South West Hertfordshire)
Robbie Moore (Conservative - Keighley and Ilkley)
Joy Morrissey (Conservative - Beaconsfield)
Wendy Morton (Conservative - Aldridge-Brownhills)
Kieran Mullan (Conservative - Bexhill and Battle)
David Mundell (Conservative - Dumfriesshire, Clydesdale and Tweeddale)
Andrew Murrison (Conservative - South West Wiltshire)
Jesse Norman (Conservative - Hereford and South Herefordshire)
Neil O'Brien (Conservative - Harborough, Oadby and Wigston)
Ben Obese-Jecty (Conservative - Huntingdon)
Priti Patel (Conservative - Witham)
Rebecca Paul (Conservative - Reigate)
Chris Philp (Conservative - Croydon South)
Mark Pritchard (Conservative - The Wrekin)
Jack Rankin (Conservative - Windsor)
David Reed (Conservative - Exmouth and Exeter East)
Andrew Rosindell (Conservative - Romford)
Jim Shannon (Democratic Unionist Party - Strangford)
Neil Shastri-Hurst (Conservative - Solihull West and Shirley)
Alec Shelbrooke (Conservative - Wetherby and Easingwold)
David Simmonds (Conservative - Ruislip, Northwood and Pinner)
Greg Smith (Conservative - Mid Buckinghamshire)
Rebecca Smith (Conservative - South West Devon)
Julian Smith (Conservative - Skipton and Ripon)
Ben Spencer (Conservative - Runnymede and Weybridge)
Patrick Spencer (Conservative - Central Suffolk and North Ipswich)
Gregory Stafford (Conservative - Farnham and Bordon)
Blake Stephenson (Conservative - Mid Bedfordshire)
Mel Stride (Conservative - Central Devon)
Graham Stuart (Conservative - Beverley and Holderness)
Robin Swann (Ulster Unionist Party - South Antrim)
Bradley Thomas (Conservative - Bromsgrove)
Richard Tice (Reform UK - Boston and Skegness)
Nick Timothy (Conservative - West Suffolk)
Laura Trott (Conservative - Sevenoaks)
Tom Tugendhat (Conservative - Tonbridge)
Martin Vickers (Conservative - Brigg and Immingham)
Matt Vickers (Conservative - Stockton West)
Helen Whately (Conservative - Faversham and Mid Kent)
John Whittingdale (Conservative - Maldon)
Gavin Williamson (Conservative - Stone, Great Wyrley and Penkridge)
Sammy Wilson (Democratic Unionist Party - East Antrim)
Mike Wood (Conservative - Kingswinford and South Staffordshire) [Post edited 9 Jan 17:32]
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I hope they're proud of themselves for voting against this bill.
https://www.gov.uk/government/news/childrens-bill-to-keep-children-safe-from-exp
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