| Attendances dipping 08:54 - Aug 18 with 14450 views | Dr_Parnassus |
Much talk about this pre season.
It appears the average is over 1000 down on last season so far.
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| Attendances dipping on 14:11 - Aug 20 with 1087 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| Attendances dipping on 14:01 - Aug 20 by jack247 |
Because we’re a long way from Blackburn and Milwall. Today will drop further compared to the average over last season. It may not compared to Luton home last season, which is the comparison most people with no agenda would make. |
You are losing me now.
So most teams have significantly increased, yet Swansea have had 1000 decrease, the largest in the league - and your reasoning is that it’s far away from Blackburn and Millwall?
I’m baffled by that explanation.
Millwall and Blackburn combined is 415 miles.
Cardiff have increased significantly, their away teams have had to travel 384 miles.
An average of 15.5 miles extra per match to get to the game.
No person with a grasp of statistics and data would make the comparison you are suggesting. If others would then they are people with a very flimsy grasp on statistics. A bit like those morons that compare African Americans killed by police and compare to the population as opposed to crime rate. It’s just mathematically flawed.
Your excuses seem like you have an agenda to me. I’m happy to back my views with cold hard cash, you seem reluctant to. [Post edited 20 Aug 2022 14:13]
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| Attendances dipping on 14:15 - Aug 20 with 1070 views | onehunglow |
| Attendances dipping on 14:04 - Aug 20 by Dr_Parnassus |
If I was in a pub and my mate was showing me correct posts on a forum that he/she was annoyed with - I would probably sit him/her down and ask if he/she was okay, seriously assuming that he/she wasn’t of course. |
As I would but that post stands out .
The last thing Id do is show anyone my posts being the dopey moron I am. |  |
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| Attendances dipping on 19:04 - Aug 20 with 1002 views | jack247 |
| Attendances dipping on 14:11 - Aug 20 by Dr_Parnassus |
You are losing me now.
So most teams have significantly increased, yet Swansea have had 1000 decrease, the largest in the league - and your reasoning is that it’s far away from Blackburn and Millwall?
I’m baffled by that explanation.
Millwall and Blackburn combined is 415 miles.
Cardiff have increased significantly, their away teams have had to travel 384 miles.
An average of 15.5 miles extra per match to get to the game.
No person with a grasp of statistics and data would make the comparison you are suggesting. If others would then they are people with a very flimsy grasp on statistics. A bit like those morons that compare African Americans killed by police and compare to the population as opposed to crime rate. It’s just mathematically flawed.
Your excuses seem like you have an agenda to me. I’m happy to back my views with cold hard cash, you seem reluctant to. [Post edited 20 Aug 2022 14:13]
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Absolutely no agenda here. I was veering on wanting Martin out at the start of the season. I’m fully in that camp now.
Today was another good example. Roughly the same attendance as Luton home last season, around 1000 less than the average of last seasons 23 home games. Much like the two previous home games. It’s easy to present that as 1000 fewer people are turning up for games. Gullible people will buy it.
You wanted to bet a team on an upward trajectory (Blackburn) wouldn’t be as affected by people having less disposable income. There’s no sense in me taking that, we’ve already established I agree.
What I don’t like is the ‘attendances down by 1000’ scaremongering, when they have been very similar to last season.
You don’t need to be a spin doctor to have a go at Russell Martin.
Criticise the fact we either try to pass teams to death or go long to Obafemi too quickly
The pressure we invite for very little reward by Fisher playing one twos around the striker
Playing Manning on the right today and watching him have an atrocious game
Piroe being stuck in midfield and completely losing his confidence/composure in front of goal
Signing Sorinola
How easy we are to set up against
The fact we’ve had one good game (which we managed to draw in injury time), two reasonable away performances and been abject twice
The general lethargy and lack of confidence on display today.
I’ll agree with you on every point. | | | |
| Attendances dipping on 20:18 - Aug 20 with 947 views | Badlands |
First three home games 2022/23 ……49,023
First three home games 2021/22 …. 48,190
Increase attendance this season over last for the first three home games = 833
Or an average increase of 277.66r
So far
Attendances are UP.
While play and results will have an effect so to will the body searches when entering the ground.
That was a major topic of conversation in our part of the east. |  |
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| Attendances dipping on 21:17 - Aug 20 with 908 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| Attendances dipping on 19:04 - Aug 20 by jack247 |
Absolutely no agenda here. I was veering on wanting Martin out at the start of the season. I’m fully in that camp now.
Today was another good example. Roughly the same attendance as Luton home last season, around 1000 less than the average of last seasons 23 home games. Much like the two previous home games. It’s easy to present that as 1000 fewer people are turning up for games. Gullible people will buy it.
You wanted to bet a team on an upward trajectory (Blackburn) wouldn’t be as affected by people having less disposable income. There’s no sense in me taking that, we’ve already established I agree.
What I don’t like is the ‘attendances down by 1000’ scaremongering, when they have been very similar to last season.
You don’t need to be a spin doctor to have a go at Russell Martin.
Criticise the fact we either try to pass teams to death or go long to Obafemi too quickly
The pressure we invite for very little reward by Fisher playing one twos around the striker
Playing Manning on the right today and watching him have an atrocious game
Piroe being stuck in midfield and completely losing his confidence/composure in front of goal
Signing Sorinola
How easy we are to set up against
The fact we’ve had one good game (which we managed to draw in injury time), two reasonable away performances and been abject twice
The general lethargy and lack of confidence on display today.
I’ll agree with you on every point. |
So if you think attendances are the same and have no cause for concern?
Why so reluctant to take my bet? I even gave you 500 head start.
You still haven’t answered me why Swansea are the only club to have 1000+ less average than last season. We know it’s not the economy because attendances surging elsewhere. We know it’s not distance because Cardiff’s attendances also surging.
So what does that leave?
Updated tonight and the average dipped again.
Now 16,341 compared to 17,376. | |
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| Attendances dipping on 21:19 - Aug 20 with 900 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| Attendances dipping on 20:18 - Aug 20 by Badlands |
First three home games 2022/23 ……49,023
First three home games 2021/22 …. 48,190
Increase attendance this season over last for the first three home games = 833
Or an average increase of 277.66r
So far
Attendances are UP.
While play and results will have an effect so to will the body searches when entering the ground.
That was a major topic of conversation in our part of the east. |
You don’t work it out like that, you are using partial data sets.
In order to be accurate you need to use full data sets.
That’s 22 games last season vs 3 this season. It can continue all season too.
Happy to take bets on anyone that doesn’t think it will significantly dip from last season.
Weirdly no takers…. | |
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| Attendances dipping on 21:42 - Aug 20 with 875 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| Attendances dipping on 20:18 - Aug 20 by Badlands |
First three home games 2022/23 ……49,023
First three home games 2021/22 …. 48,190
Increase attendance this season over last for the first three home games = 833
Or an average increase of 277.66r
So far
Attendances are UP.
While play and results will have an effect so to will the body searches when entering the ground.
That was a major topic of conversation in our part of the east. |
Your numbers are also wrong.
49,369 through the gate last season in the first 3 games.
48,923 through the game this season in the first 3 games.
Attendances are down when you use the correct numbers for your method too.
But like I said, you don’t work it out like that. | |
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| Attendances dipping on 21:46 - Aug 20 with 865 views | bennytheblue |
| Attendances dipping on 21:19 - Aug 20 by Dr_Parnassus |
You don’t work it out like that, you are using partial data sets.
In order to be accurate you need to use full data sets.
That’s 22 games last season vs 3 this season. It can continue all season too.
Happy to take bets on anyone that doesn’t think it will significantly dip from last season.
Weirdly no takers…. |
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Kin ell Roathie you are a natural Valium, reading your inane drivel feels like a dose of rohypnol…. |  | | |
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| Attendances dipping on 21:48 - Aug 20 with 862 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| Attendances dipping on 21:46 - Aug 20 by bennytheblue |
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Kin ell Roathie you are a natural Valium, reading your inane drivel feels like a dose of rohypnol…. |
You have dealt with rohypnol?
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| Attendances dipping on 22:01 - Aug 20 with 832 views | jack247 |
| Attendances dipping on 21:17 - Aug 20 by Dr_Parnassus |
So if you think attendances are the same and have no cause for concern?
Why so reluctant to take my bet? I even gave you 500 head start.
You still haven’t answered me why Swansea are the only club to have 1000+ less average than last season. We know it’s not the economy because attendances surging elsewhere. We know it’s not distance because Cardiff’s attendances also surging.
So what does that leave?
Updated tonight and the average dipped again.
Now 16,341 compared to 17,376. |
I didn’t say no cause for concern. I said 1000 less attending was misrepresenting the reality.
What I’ve said is comparing attendances against the three teams we’ve played at home this season against those same three teams last season is a more accurate barometer than every team, many of which are either closer, take bigger numbers away, or both. You will argue against that, nobody else would.
Our home attendances don’t fluctuate that much. Plenty of teams will bring significantly more than Blackburn, Milwall and Luton. Those averages will even out when we host teams that bring more support.
I was happy to take your bet if you’d split it with mine re. our attendances vs the team whose were closest to ours last season. Surely you’d be confident in that too if you think our attendances will dwindle more than average because of the football being played.
As usual, this has gone off on the kind of tangent that doesn’t happen when I disagree with anyone else. | | | |
| Attendances dipping on 23:02 - Aug 20 with 789 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| Attendances dipping on 22:01 - Aug 20 by jack247 |
I didn’t say no cause for concern. I said 1000 less attending was misrepresenting the reality.
What I’ve said is comparing attendances against the three teams we’ve played at home this season against those same three teams last season is a more accurate barometer than every team, many of which are either closer, take bigger numbers away, or both. You will argue against that, nobody else would.
Our home attendances don’t fluctuate that much. Plenty of teams will bring significantly more than Blackburn, Milwall and Luton. Those averages will even out when we host teams that bring more support.
I was happy to take your bet if you’d split it with mine re. our attendances vs the team whose were closest to ours last season. Surely you’d be confident in that too if you think our attendances will dwindle more than average because of the football being played.
As usual, this has gone off on the kind of tangent that doesn’t happen when I disagree with anyone else. |
You said “nothing to see here”.
So if you don’t think there is a very clear downward trend, then not sure what the issue is with taking me up on my offer? Especially with such a head start.
I have no view on Huddersfield, seems an odd thing to bet on. They may well have a similar dip in attendances if they perform as badly as we are, they look terrible. I’m not sure what it would be proving exactly.
My point is that if we were doing well then attendances wouldn’t be dipping regardless of the economy. So the only reason it is dipping is because the fans are disillusioned with what is going on. Economy doesn’t come into it as most other teams are showing.
No tangent from me, my point is that Swansea’s attendances have and will continue to fall. You claim to disagree but won’t back it and want to do another team instead (a team I have no view on) - I guess that’s a tangent you want to take it to, that’s not on me.
Offer still stands. | |
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| Attendances dipping on 09:04 - Aug 21 with 731 views | jack247 |
| Attendances dipping on 23:02 - Aug 20 by Dr_Parnassus |
You said “nothing to see here”.
So if you don’t think there is a very clear downward trend, then not sure what the issue is with taking me up on my offer? Especially with such a head start.
I have no view on Huddersfield, seems an odd thing to bet on. They may well have a similar dip in attendances if they perform as badly as we are, they look terrible. I’m not sure what it would be proving exactly.
My point is that if we were doing well then attendances wouldn’t be dipping regardless of the economy. So the only reason it is dipping is because the fans are disillusioned with what is going on. Economy doesn’t come into it as most other teams are showing.
No tangent from me, my point is that Swansea’s attendances have and will continue to fall. You claim to disagree but won’t back it and want to do another team instead (a team I have no view on) - I guess that’s a tangent you want to take it to, that’s not on me.
Offer still stands. |
The thrust of this thread is that having played the opposition that we played in our third, fifth and tenth lowest attended home league games last season, our attendances are down on the seasons overall average. It’s hardly a surprise.
If we’d played Cardiff, Bristol City and Sunderland in our first three games and averages were still down, you’d have a point.
I have no more interest in Blackburn than you do Huddersfield. I’ve already said I expect attendances to drop. We’ve got more and more food banks in Swansea now. I just disagreed with the sensationalising.
Like I said further up, there are plenty of valid sticks to beat Russell Martin with. | | | |
| Attendances dipping on 09:36 - Aug 21 with 698 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| Attendances dipping on 09:04 - Aug 21 by jack247 |
The thrust of this thread is that having played the opposition that we played in our third, fifth and tenth lowest attended home league games last season, our attendances are down on the seasons overall average. It’s hardly a surprise.
If we’d played Cardiff, Bristol City and Sunderland in our first three games and averages were still down, you’d have a point.
I have no more interest in Blackburn than you do Huddersfield. I’ve already said I expect attendances to drop. We’ve got more and more food banks in Swansea now. I just disagreed with the sensationalising.
Like I said further up, there are plenty of valid sticks to beat Russell Martin with. |
There are many valid sticks to beat the manager with yes. This is one of them.
If you didn’t think it was valid then you would take the bet that there is nothing to see here and our attendances aren’t going to dip to the levels I’ve stated here.
You either agree or you don’t. But no point in saying you don’t agree but not willing to back that view.
With regards to food banks. If you are telling me that Swansea are going to be the only team affected by cost of living then you are living in la-la land. As we have both established, if the team was doing well then attendances would be up.
Attendances are surging elsewhere, I assume it’s due to it being escapism from the pressures of the financial restrictions.
We are the only team in the league to have 1000+ LESS at our games. The only team.
Your reasoning doesn’t excuse that, unless you think by a cruel quirk of fate we are also the only club to have fixtures against opposition that don’t bring many away fans. [Post edited 21 Aug 2022 9:40]
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| Attendances dipping on 10:01 - Aug 21 with 668 views | jack247 |
| Attendances dipping on 09:36 - Aug 21 by Dr_Parnassus |
There are many valid sticks to beat the manager with yes. This is one of them.
If you didn’t think it was valid then you would take the bet that there is nothing to see here and our attendances aren’t going to dip to the levels I’ve stated here.
You either agree or you don’t. But no point in saying you don’t agree but not willing to back that view.
With regards to food banks. If you are telling me that Swansea are going to be the only team affected by cost of living then you are living in la-la land. As we have both established, if the team was doing well then attendances would be up.
Attendances are surging elsewhere, I assume it’s due to it being escapism from the pressures of the financial restrictions.
We are the only team in the league to have 1000+ LESS at our games. The only team.
Your reasoning doesn’t excuse that, unless you think by a cruel quirk of fate we are also the only club to have fixtures against opposition that don’t bring many away fans. [Post edited 21 Aug 2022 9:40]
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What on earth makes you think I said Swansea would be the only team affected by the cost of living crisis? I’ve said I expect overall attendances in the EFL and PL to be down this season because of it multiple times in this thread.
If you can find another team that has already played the opposition that provided their third and fifth lowest home gate last season, as well as the highest one so far being in the bottom half last season, then we’ll have a reasonable comparison to make.
Other teams are surging, of course. Some will have played a couple of teams that brought the higher away attendances last season. If you compare that to the season average, it’s obviously going to inflate. It’s why comparing two or three games against a twenty three game average is folly.
From your table in this thread
Middlesbrough 23rd place, 3 points, attendance up 4613
Huddersfield 22nd place, 3 points, attendance up 2138
Compare them to the equivalent fixtures last season and I’m sure it would be a lot closer, as ours is. | | | |
| Attendances dipping on 10:12 - Aug 21 with 660 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| Attendances dipping on 10:01 - Aug 21 by jack247 |
What on earth makes you think I said Swansea would be the only team affected by the cost of living crisis? I’ve said I expect overall attendances in the EFL and PL to be down this season because of it multiple times in this thread.
If you can find another team that has already played the opposition that provided their third and fifth lowest home gate last season, as well as the highest one so far being in the bottom half last season, then we’ll have a reasonable comparison to make.
Other teams are surging, of course. Some will have played a couple of teams that brought the higher away attendances last season. If you compare that to the season average, it’s obviously going to inflate. It’s why comparing two or three games against a twenty three game average is folly.
From your table in this thread
Middlesbrough 23rd place, 3 points, attendance up 4613
Huddersfield 22nd place, 3 points, attendance up 2138
Compare them to the equivalent fixtures last season and I’m sure it would be a lot closer, as ours is. |
Fine, let’s indulge you.
Middlesbrough this seasons opponents vs the same fixture last season.
- WBA (+4,921)
21,646 last season
26,567 this season
- Sheff Utd (+6,666)
19,390 last season
26,056 this season
Huddersfield this seasons opponents vs the same fixture last season.
- Burnley (no equivalent fixture)
- Stoke (+2,274)
16,342 last season
18,616 this season
What now? | |
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| Attendances dipping on 10:18 - Aug 21 with 653 views | jack247 |
| Attendances dipping on 10:12 - Aug 21 by Dr_Parnassus |
Fine, let’s indulge you.
Middlesbrough this seasons opponents vs the same fixture last season.
- WBA (+4,921)
21,646 last season
26,567 this season
- Sheff Utd (+6,666)
19,390 last season
26,056 this season
Huddersfield this seasons opponents vs the same fixture last season.
- Burnley (no equivalent fixture)
- Stoke (+2,274)
16,342 last season
18,616 this season
What now? |
Now we agree that their surging attendances aren’t down to their scintillating form. Cheers | | | |
| Attendances dipping on 10:22 - Aug 21 with 650 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| Attendances dipping on 10:18 - Aug 21 by jack247 |
Now we agree that their surging attendances aren’t down to their scintillating form. Cheers |
Nope, hope and a feeling of faith and excitement will do it too.
But what we can now be certain of is the cost of living nonsense isn’t affecting either club.
So now we are back to why Swansea have fallen in attendance when most others are surging?
The answer has become obvious (again) hasn’t it? Cheers. | |
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| Attendances dipping on 10:52 - Aug 21 with 640 views | Badlands |
| Attendances dipping on 21:42 - Aug 20 by Dr_Parnassus |
Your numbers are also wrong.
49,369 through the gate last season in the first 3 games.
48,923 through the game this season in the first 3 games.
Attendances are down when you use the correct numbers for your method too.
But like I said, you don’t work it out like that. |
OK fella.
I can only assume you are trying to wind people up.
The fact is
Attendance for the first three home league games last season was, and I repeat
15,946 (Sheff) 15,927 (Stoke) 16,317 (Hull) 48,190
This season
16,632 (Rot) 16,068 (Millwall) 16,323 (Luton) 49,023
(I hope no one ever takes your advice on reading data.)
You write about full data sets … Absolutely correct, But then compare a data set of 22 with a data set of 3! (That's the equivalent of claiming Labour will win an general election because the first 90 results have them a 2 seats ahead.)
The full data set comparison needs 22 (or very close) or it is an incomplete data set comparison. Data analysis methods can be used to compare dissimilar situations or values but should always be used with varying degrees of caution.
But I'm willing to play your little game.
Average attendance at this stage of the season last year was 48,190/3 = 16,063.
The average attendance for the 22 games was 17,376
Using your misinterpretation, at this stage last season our attendance was 1,313 on your full data set of 22.
By the end of the season attendances may well be down on last season but the trend, after three games, is showing an increase.
Stick to opinions because maths just isn’t your thing. | |
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| Attendances dipping on 11:01 - Aug 21 with 633 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| Attendances dipping on 10:52 - Aug 21 by Badlands |
OK fella.
I can only assume you are trying to wind people up.
The fact is
Attendance for the first three home league games last season was, and I repeat
15,946 (Sheff) 15,927 (Stoke) 16,317 (Hull) 48,190
This season
16,632 (Rot) 16,068 (Millwall) 16,323 (Luton) 49,023
(I hope no one ever takes your advice on reading data.)
You write about full data sets … Absolutely correct, But then compare a data set of 22 with a data set of 3! (That's the equivalent of claiming Labour will win an general election because the first 90 results have them a 2 seats ahead.)
The full data set comparison needs 22 (or very close) or it is an incomplete data set comparison. Data analysis methods can be used to compare dissimilar situations or values but should always be used with varying degrees of caution.
But I'm willing to play your little game.
Average attendance at this stage of the season last year was 48,190/3 = 16,063.
The average attendance for the 22 games was 17,376
Using your misinterpretation, at this stage last season our attendance was 1,313 on your full data set of 22.
By the end of the season attendances may well be down on last season but the trend, after three games, is showing an increase.
Stick to opinions because maths just isn’t your thing. |
I’m winding you up by stating facts?
You can’t compare “first 3”, it means nothing.
Full data sets (not complete data sets). The full data set for this season is 3 games, the full data set for last season is 23 games.
So again, why are Swansea the only club in the league to dip 1000+ on the gate from last years average.
We had a guess that if we compared other clubs to their corresponding fixtures then it would reveal the same trend - it didn’t.
So what’s the reason? | |
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| Attendances dipping on 11:44 - Aug 21 with 610 views | jack247 |
| Attendances dipping on 10:22 - Aug 21 by Dr_Parnassus |
Nope, hope and a feeling of faith and excitement will do it too.
But what we can now be certain of is the cost of living nonsense isn’t affecting either club.
So now we are back to why Swansea have fallen in attendance when most others are surging?
The answer has become obvious (again) hasn’t it? Cheers. |
Cost of living nonsense? You don’t think it’s real?
Anyway, back on point. According to yourself, after two games (three now as we’ve played since you started this thread), using a whole seasons average as a tool to beat the club with, without taking into account who we are playing, when the travelling support make up the majority of the fluctuations, is the most accurate way to measure apathy from our fans.
Let’s just let anyone who hasn’t already given up on this thread decide for themselves whether that’s a better way to judge attendances than against the equivalent fixtures last season. | | | |
| Attendances dipping on 11:52 - Aug 21 with 608 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| Attendances dipping on 11:44 - Aug 21 by jack247 |
Cost of living nonsense? You don’t think it’s real?
Anyway, back on point. According to yourself, after two games (three now as we’ve played since you started this thread), using a whole seasons average as a tool to beat the club with, without taking into account who we are playing, when the travelling support make up the majority of the fluctuations, is the most accurate way to measure apathy from our fans.
Let’s just let anyone who hasn’t already given up on this thread decide for themselves whether that’s a better way to judge attendances than against the equivalent fixtures last season. |
I don’t think it’s having the affect of attendances that is being claimed here…. well, I know it isn’t, I’ve proven as much.
Unless you are suggesting the cost of living crisis is only limited to Swansea which is why they are the only club to have such a dip.
Taking the average of this season and comparing it to last seasons average is absolutely a fair comparison.
You suggested we take a look at Huddersfield and Blackburn’s fixtures and compare them to the exact same ones last season and we will see the same trend - we saw the opposite.
Expecting the same attendance in two separate seasons just because the opposition is the same is a ludicrous suggestion. | |
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| Attendances dipping on 11:53 - Aug 21 with 607 views | Badlands |
| Attendances dipping on 11:01 - Aug 21 by Dr_Parnassus |
I’m winding you up by stating facts?
You can’t compare “first 3”, it means nothing.
Full data sets (not complete data sets). The full data set for this season is 3 games, the full data set for last season is 23 games.
So again, why are Swansea the only club in the league to dip 1000+ on the gate from last years average.
We had a guess that if we compared other clubs to their corresponding fixtures then it would reveal the same trend - it didn’t.
So what’s the reason? |
My last contribution on this.
You are a wind up merchant who is either twist number or doesn’t understand how data comparrison works.
Either shame on you or never mind he's trying.
You are now banging on about other teams' averages and league averages.
Ps.
Don’t bother apologising for claiming attendance figures for 2012/ was 2022/3 and vise versa. | |
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| Attendances dipping on 11:55 - Aug 21 with 606 views | Dr_Parnassus |
But someone (anyone) explain to me why Swansea is the only team in the league to have such a dip.
- We have ruled out opposition (Blackburn and Huddersfield disproved it 100% of examples).
- We have ruled out cost of living (almost all teams have increased attendance).
What excuse are we to next that we can explore before we arrive at the obvious?
I’m happy to indulge any last gasp excuses… | |
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| Attendances dipping on 11:58 - Aug 21 with 598 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| Attendances dipping on 11:53 - Aug 21 by Badlands |
My last contribution on this.
You are a wind up merchant who is either twist number or doesn’t understand how data comparrison works.
Either shame on you or never mind he's trying.
You are now banging on about other teams' averages and league averages.
Ps.
Don’t bother apologising for claiming attendance figures for 2012/ was 2022/3 and vise versa. |
It’s your last contribution because you are completely stuck and cannot argue against my factual logic.
That winding you up is probably more a reflection of your inability to admit you are wrong as opposed to me actually winding you up, but I’m sure you know that.
I’m not banging on about anything. I was challenged by another poster to look into other teams as he believed it would reveal the same trend - it didn’t, it showed the opposite.
So again, why are Swansea the only team in the league to have such a dip?
Any excuse will do that we can explore, otherwise I’ll assume you have arrived at the obvious which is the absolute apathy in the fan base due to our manager as highlighted on fans forums declaring they are no longer attending or did not renew as a result. | |
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| Attendances dipping on 12:50 - Aug 21 with 582 views | Jack_Kass |
Annddd what's funny is that everyone in this thread is wrong because the data you are fighting over cannot be verified as accurate, unless you work for the club of course.
If you REALLY want the true figures then file a freedom of information request with the local council/police and hope they don't just turn you back to the club.
Legally all the club has to know is how many individuals are in the building/complex at one time (matchday). They could report the attendance figure at 30 000 every week if they wanted to. [Post edited 21 Aug 2022 12:51]
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