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Reply | Fan Mobilisation - Nourry Out
at 14:48 15 Nov 2024
Or we struggle in the next few games. Nourry sacks Cifuentes, hires a bloke who struggles to, we get relegated, and then we get into a new cycle in the league below. |
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Reply | MC has got to go
at 14:17 13 Nov 2024
Yeah, 10-15 years from starting in your early 20s is mid-late 30s, isn’t it?! I wasn’t saying 30s was unrealistic. You need some maths’ skills for these Partner roles. ;)
He had 3 years on appointment.
Based on what Lee Hoos was earning, I’d say CEO is equivalent to a Partner level at the Big 4…not a 20 year partner (agree they’d earn far more), but a 5 year partner.
Nourry will be on a lot less than Hoos, but still at an experienced Director or 1-2 year Partner level. That would be my guess. Not bad after 3 years as a recruitment consultant. |
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Reply | MC has got to go
at 14:11 13 Nov 2024
You aren’t reading what myself, Benny, Clive, and Simply Nico are posting. Read SimplyNico’s post above.
“Managing Partner” in a 3 person recruitment consultancy does not mean he is successful yet.
No one is criticising him because he is posh - I would probably be described by many as posh - not because he is young, but because he is inexperienced!
It’s obvious the club did no due diligence because when they appointed him they said he had spent half a decade advising major European football clubs. That isn’t true. It has been debunked by Simply Nico using quotes from Nourry himself and following his full time education history. |
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Reply | MC has got to go
at 13:51 13 Nov 2024
It’s a 3 person company. They began as a recruitment consultancy in the non-playing side of football. Ignore the titles. In a small start up you can call yourself whatever you like.
They have some impressive club badges on their website but you and I don’t know exactly what they did. Hire some fitness coaches? Advise the Board? We know the above about their company. They are tiny.
They did an audit on QPR. He did it. Not a large team of consultants beneath him.
You can believe he was at a Partner level of the Big 4 if you want, but I think you are MILES off the mark there. A couple of close friends are partners at the Big 4. It takes 10-15 years of solid career experience to get there whether you work up through them or parachute in from the private or state sector.
3 years as a recruitment consultant, even for some big football clubs, would not cut it. |
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Reply | MC has got to go
at 13:43 13 Nov 2024
James, that is a ludicrous assertion. Are you aware of the experience levels required to reach Director or Partner level at the Big 4?
Nourry had 3 years of career experience when he was appointed CEO, and a maximum of 2 years when he began the audit at QPR.
Retexo, I believe, employed only a handful of people. He wasn’t the Founder and Leader. He also performed the audit, doing the leg work, just like an Associate would at the Big 4.
At a push, he might have been at the Senior Associate or Manager level. To suggest Director or Partner level is silly. |
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Reply | Fan Mobilisation - Nourry Out
at 21:30 12 Nov 2024
They should be mutually exclusive. Only the incredibly and stupidly short term focused would disagree. |
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Reply | Fan Mobilisation - Nourry Out
at 18:16 12 Nov 2024
There needs to be some quite vocal messaging at the Stoke home game.
We need to get a message to the club.
Back Marti
Sack Nourry. |
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Reply | Now it ´s started, Gregory Vignal
at 16:23 12 Nov 2024
Nourry is the founder of that site. It’s a tinpot website that operates under one of those entities I mentioned the other day.
He’s leaking stuff to his own website about his own manager. This is the type of person in charge of our club. Beggars belief.
And as I said the other day, the only Head Coach that will come here is a terrible one keen on a payday, and the only one Nourry will hire is a puppet he can control and direct.
It’s been said before but we have an unqualified, inexperienced, 27 yr old trying to play football manager with out club…and failing badly. |
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Reply | Fan Mobilisation - Nourry Out
at 11:10 12 Nov 2024
It’s insecurity and fear of scrutiny dressed up as business smarts. That’s all. Hardly surprising for a 27 yr old with about 4-5 years of career experience finding himself in a very visible CEO role. |
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Reply | Fan Mobilisation - Nourry Out
at 07:27 12 Nov 2024
Yes, but this precise situation is ridiculous, isn’t it?
Last year the club wheel Ben Williams out at the fans forum, make him front and centre, and laud ip our injury record as we go through the season. Fair’s fair, it was bloody good and played a big part in keeping us up.
Now, Nourry won’t say if he’s still working with QPR or departed. At the fans forum he told fans Williams was still working for the club, just based on Dubai, and we were unhappy with the Net’s announcement. It’s all in Clive’s write up.
However, reality is he’s certainly not physically working at the club (quite important for the Head of Performance of a football club), and several are saying that he has left and others have taken over his responsibility. If so, did Nourry lie? And who hired these new staff? When? Is there a Head of Performance/Fitness accountable for our overall fitness and injury record? These are basics of management. If he has a group of people now doing Williams’ role but no one is overall accountable he’s making one of the most basic mistakes of organisational structure. So he’s accountable. Our fitness and injury record are terrible this season.
He’s lost a key member of staff, lied about it and sounds like he’s bodged the replacement, and whatever he’s done we have the worst injury record in the league…seriously impacting our competitiveness on the pitch.
You can’t take the credit and promote how great we are in this area when it’s going well, and then not take the blame/criticism when, quite soon after, it’s going terribly and we’re the worst. |
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Reply | David Coote
at 16:57 11 Nov 2024
Haha amazing. Through the looking glass.
If it is AI, hilarious they have picked a no mark ref and done it on this. Excellent wind up.
If it is not AI, what balls Coote has to take this defence. Brilliant. |
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Reply | David Coote
at 16:44 11 Nov 2024
He looks like he’s off his head in that video. Eyes bigger than the moon. Silly man.
Certainly can never do a Liverpool game in any capacity, or any of their competitors at the top of the Prem, so yeah, either his career is dead or we’ll see him in the EFL.
Wouldn’t mind that, he might not like other North West Clubs and those with Liverpool players on loan! |
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Reply | MC has got to go
at 13:31 11 Nov 2024
Nourry decided it. He has made this clear, himself. He obviously made the recommendation and crystallised the decision after his appointment.
He was appointed CEO (not DoF) in Jan 2024. Ferdinand resigned in the summer of 2023, I recall, over the Investors decision to give Ainsworth the keys to recruitment.
Hoos said on a few occasions, if I recall correctly I believe one was the fans forum a year ago, that there was a recruitment process underway for a DOF but it wasn’t a priority/we weren’t rushing into it/ weren’t 100% convinced about the need for one. I’m sure I recall Clive even commenting about this being an about turn for Hoos.
Anyway, Nourry came in and announced we would not be hiring a DOF and he would be a “football focused CEO.”
It wouldn’t surprise me if his appointment and the decision over the combining of both roles was one that a) came out whilst he was doing the audit of the club, and b) was the reason Ferdinand resigned. [Post edited 11 Nov 13:35]
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Reply | MC has got to go
at 12:50 11 Nov 2024
Great work, Nico.
I too had taken a gander at his Companies House appointments. HB Media Group has unaudited micro accounts showing just £43k of assets and £42k of creditors in 2021 with net assets of under a grand. It’s not a proper business, let alone one advising the giants of European football. There were 10 shareholders in here. It’s been dissolved.
The other business he has been a legal director in is RADF Limited. He is the only shareholder. Current assets in 2023 of £71k, with net assets of £64k. No idea what this business is. My guess is he has created a limited company for him to use for freelance/consulting activity for him to be paid into so he avoids income tax.
No mention anywhere of him being a founder or director or Retexo. Charles Gould is the Founder.
He’s a recruitment consultant, who’s been involved in Retexo for 3 years.
He has no experience as a leader of business or people, no genuine experience in football, and he certainly hasn’t been in the game for 11 years.
Our owners did no due diligence on his appointment. Employing Retexo, I can just about get my head around. They advised some other clubs. But Nourry was just an employee and had only been the case for about 3 years.
Imagine you own a £20m turnover business, and you engage Deloitte (generous, a very small local consultancy firm is a better analogy) and you have them do an audit of your operations. The grunt work is done by the associate (as standard). At the end of this audit, you make the Associate CEO.
That is what Ruben has done.
The Associate, rather than admit they’re fortunate and a bit out of their depth so needs to rely on others, then proceeds to lie to all and sundry about his credentials due to the understandable insecurity, and becomes a directive control freak.
It would be a travesty if it was a local £20m business. It is worse when it’s your football club too, which thousands care deeply about.
He needs to go immediately. [Post edited 11 Nov 12:52]
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Reply | Fan Mobilisation - Nourry Out
at 23:17 10 Nov 2024
Perhaps it means all these things?
Dave Mc and Gallen made the point that Belk is at QPR games rather than travelling to watch prospects.
Cifuentes has repeatedly said “the club has a name model”, “the club has signed players”, “my job is to coach the players”.
This squad/signings is on Nourry and Belk.
Our game model (preferred system and approach: 4231 and play out from the back, is on Nourry).
Our fitness/injury list is on the Performance function. That is/was led by Ben Williams, resident of Dubai and not present at the training ground (having been ever present last year). He has not been replaced if he has left, and isn’t present if he is. That is on Nourry. He’s CEO and Williams reported to him. |
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Reply | Fan Mobilisation - Nourry Out
at 23:06 10 Nov 2024
Correct. It cannot work. It is not working. It will not work with any manager The Fraud hires afterwards either.
Collective approach, manager getting a final approval on the player (not the financial side)? That was our previous model. And is most clubs’. |
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Reply | MC has got to go
at 22:24 9 Nov 2024
There is no point in sacking Cifuentes.
Whoever comes in will have to play a “game model” and follow instruction on who they can and can’t select from, determined by a 27yr old charlatan with no football experience.
No credible, self respecting manager will come to work at QPR under this fraud.
Which means sacking Cifuentes will result in a washed up fella looking for a payday OR a jumped up, arrogant tosser from League 2 who wants to be managing a couple of leagues higher and will accept being a “yes” man.
The manager is not the issue. |
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