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The problem is in the modern game we're told by Sky that the Premier League is the be all and end all. Nothing else matters - the other leagues, the cups, the other leagues in Europe, the national team, traditions of the sport. It's all Premier League. The premier League is the most important thing in the world ever.
And supporters have seemed quite happy to swallow this. I've seen QPR fans on here wishing us out of cup competitions for fear it may in some way effect our ability to either get to or stay in the Premier League. We want to move out of our home, and if necessary our area, because we perceive that we can't compete in the Premier League without some giant soulless stadium next to a Frankie and Bennies somewhere. When you look at the things that make you go to QPR you could make an argument for staying at Loftus Road and only having the occasional trip to the top division when a decent manager and team come together every now and again. But no. We're told the Premier League is important and we want the Premier League, even if it means playing in a ground that could be Southampton's or Derby's or anybody else's really out at Heathrow or Park Royal or something else - nice and big with us all a long way from the pitch so One Direction can have a concert there.
Cardiff City changed their colours and pretty soon they'll be the Cardiff Dragons or some such bullsht - but because they got a good manager in and got to the Premier League it's accepted. Hull City change their name, but because they've had one good season and got to the Premier League that's alright. We're told that as well as a giant stadium to succeed in the Premier League you also need lots of Asians wearing your shirt - and Asians don't like Rangers and City and United they like Lions and Tigers and Bears.
Traditional English football clubs are being bought out by foreigners with no idea or care for the history of the sport in this country. They want to spend big, get them to the Premier League and then use them to sell shirts in Taiwan and rake in Premier League money. In some cases, like our Russian friend down the road, they're using them for protection.
The traditional English football fan in this country who goes to all the games doesn't matter. They're told this sometimes outright (like Flavio did with us) and sometimes indirctly when clubs spend their entire summer jetting round the world for friendlies. Most are told it every week when they're charged upwards of £40 to get in.
And what are we all doing about all of this? Going along with it. Just get us to the Premier League. That's all that matters. Do what you like with my 130 year old football club. Move it, change its kit, change its name, change whatever you like until it's actually unrecognisable from what it was before. Just get it to the Premier League.
Bunch of f**king whingers. Should be happy that they can still go and watch their football club, drink cheap cider and smoke cheap fags on the benefits that they are getting!
The problem is in the modern game we're told by Sky that the Premier League is the be all and end all. Nothing else matters - the other leagues, the cups, the other leagues in Europe, the national team, traditions of the sport. It's all Premier League. The premier League is the most important thing in the world ever.
And supporters have seemed quite happy to swallow this. I've seen QPR fans on here wishing us out of cup competitions for fear it may in some way effect our ability to either get to or stay in the Premier League. We want to move out of our home, and if necessary our area, because we perceive that we can't compete in the Premier League without some giant soulless stadium next to a Frankie and Bennies somewhere. When you look at the things that make you go to QPR you could make an argument for staying at Loftus Road and only having the occasional trip to the top division when a decent manager and team come together every now and again. But no. We're told the Premier League is important and we want the Premier League, even if it means playing in a ground that could be Southampton's or Derby's or anybody else's really out at Heathrow or Park Royal or something else - nice and big with us all a long way from the pitch so One Direction can have a concert there.
Cardiff City changed their colours and pretty soon they'll be the Cardiff Dragons or some such bullsht - but because they got a good manager in and got to the Premier League it's accepted. Hull City change their name, but because they've had one good season and got to the Premier League that's alright. We're told that as well as a giant stadium to succeed in the Premier League you also need lots of Asians wearing your shirt - and Asians don't like Rangers and City and United they like Lions and Tigers and Bears.
Traditional English football clubs are being bought out by foreigners with no idea or care for the history of the sport in this country. They want to spend big, get them to the Premier League and then use them to sell shirts in Taiwan and rake in Premier League money. In some cases, like our Russian friend down the road, they're using them for protection.
The traditional English football fan in this country who goes to all the games doesn't matter. They're told this sometimes outright (like Flavio did with us) and sometimes indirctly when clubs spend their entire summer jetting round the world for friendlies. Most are told it every week when they're charged upwards of £40 to get in.
And what are we all doing about all of this? Going along with it. Just get us to the Premier League. That's all that matters. Do what you like with my 130 year old football club. Move it, change its kit, change its name, change whatever you like until it's actually unrecognisable from what it was before. Just get it to the Premier League.
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couldn't agree more if the Premier League and Sky all died in a car crash I wouldn't be at the funeral.
overpaid players, over inflated ticket prices, ridiculous kick off times, club owners who don't really give a $hit, Jim Gregory will be turning in his grave over the likes of Venky's Allams and the Russians.
The problem is in the modern game we're told by Sky that the Premier League is the be all and end all. Nothing else matters - the other leagues, the cups, the other leagues in Europe, the national team, traditions of the sport. It's all Premier League. The premier League is the most important thing in the world ever.
And supporters have seemed quite happy to swallow this. I've seen QPR fans on here wishing us out of cup competitions for fear it may in some way effect our ability to either get to or stay in the Premier League. We want to move out of our home, and if necessary our area, because we perceive that we can't compete in the Premier League without some giant soulless stadium next to a Frankie and Bennies somewhere. When you look at the things that make you go to QPR you could make an argument for staying at Loftus Road and only having the occasional trip to the top division when a decent manager and team come together every now and again. But no. We're told the Premier League is important and we want the Premier League, even if it means playing in a ground that could be Southampton's or Derby's or anybody else's really out at Heathrow or Park Royal or something else - nice and big with us all a long way from the pitch so One Direction can have a concert there.
Cardiff City changed their colours and pretty soon they'll be the Cardiff Dragons or some such bullsht - but because they got a good manager in and got to the Premier League it's accepted. Hull City change their name, but because they've had one good season and got to the Premier League that's alright. We're told that as well as a giant stadium to succeed in the Premier League you also need lots of Asians wearing your shirt - and Asians don't like Rangers and City and United they like Lions and Tigers and Bears.
Traditional English football clubs are being bought out by foreigners with no idea or care for the history of the sport in this country. They want to spend big, get them to the Premier League and then use them to sell shirts in Taiwan and rake in Premier League money. In some cases, like our Russian friend down the road, they're using them for protection.
The traditional English football fan in this country who goes to all the games doesn't matter. They're told this sometimes outright (like Flavio did with us) and sometimes indirctly when clubs spend their entire summer jetting round the world for friendlies. Most are told it every week when they're charged upwards of £40 to get in.
And what are we all doing about all of this? Going along with it. Just get us to the Premier League. That's all that matters. Do what you like with my 130 year old football club. Move it, change its kit, change its name, change whatever you like until it's actually unrecognisable from what it was before. Just get it to the Premier League.
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Clive, I suppose the point is, if the club is going to be around for 130 years plus, it, along with the sport, is going to change with time. For better or worse, evolution will happen.
I've been supporting Rangers since 1972. The football played now is unrecognisable from that played in the 70s, with pace and power nowadays a priority of skill and technique. The club and the ground changed hugely under Jim Gregory from a ramshackle, unambitious backwater into a club renowned across Europe for a while for its innovative and imaginative football. The game of football as played 130 years ago would be unrecognisable to most today as even the same sport. The fans today are largely unrecognisable from the neanderthals that I used to regularly come across when I travelled home and away in the 80s. And so on.
You and I might not like how the business has changed and how it continues to change, but unless fans walk away from purchasing tickets en masse, it isn't going to stop changing.
The day we lose our anger about the changes happening to football is the day those utter w@nkers at Sky, FIFA, UEFA, the bigwigs and the billionaires stealing the game finally win
And apparently Selhurst Park is getting rebranded as the 12bet Stadium for some reason. Football, eh?
Stefan Moore, Stefan Moore running down the wing. Stefan Moore, Stefan Moore running down the wing. He runs like a cheetah, his crosses couldn't be sweeter. Stefan Moore. Stefan Moore. Stefan Moore.
"mauled by your owner, your getting mauled by your owner"
They are. The only reason, as I've banged on about before, that Allam is at Hull City is because he thinks he can get the council owned KC Stadium, and giant patch of waste ground behind it, for an absolute song, build a very large leisure and retail complex next to it and make a fortune. He's trying various tactics to bully the rugby club out of the stadium and when the council tell him he can't have it he goes and stands in a farmer's field in the middle of nowhere and invites the Hull Daily Mail down there to take his picture holding a blueprint of a large stadium he's threatening to build to move Hull City into.
But, again, this is all ok and we don't say anything against him because they had one good season and got into the Premier League and that's all that matters.
They are. The only reason, as I've banged on about before, that Allam is at Hull City is because he thinks he can get the council owned KC Stadium, and giant patch of waste ground behind it, for an absolute song, build a very large leisure and retail complex next to it and make a fortune. He's trying various tactics to bully the rugby club out of the stadium and when the council tell him he can't have it he goes and stands in a farmer's field in the middle of nowhere and invites the Hull Daily Mail down there to take his picture holding a blueprint of a large stadium he's threatening to build to move Hull City into.
But, again, this is all ok and we don't say anything against him because they had one good season and got into the Premier League and that's all that matters.
The only way we can put an end to the wan kification of football is to uninvent the telly, re-impose the maximum wage and un-expose the idiots that run our clubs from American sporting “matchday experience” razzamatazz. It’s not going to be easy, but I think it can be done. Meet me in the car park at six if you want to kill modern football.
I don't like Hull or Cardiff or Coventry. But that's within the context of football rivalry. I don't want them to have their names or colours or identities changed any more than I do QPR's. Sneering or laughing at other clubs who are being fcked over by their owners is pretty stupid when it could be us next.
I have to say there is some rather sweet irony about Hull who so famously sung that we are a town full of bombers, massive anti muslim chanting now being made into a laughing stock by their Egyptian sugar-daddy. Wonder what that c*nt of a poster EGD Wright thinks of it all. Hope his Saturdays have been ruined...a deeply unpleasant individual.
Clive's story about Allam, and the standoff at Coventry bear a remarkable resemblance to the story of how one George W. Bush made his money from the stadium in Arlington, Texas:
The problem is in the modern game we're told by Sky that the Premier League is the be all and end all. Nothing else matters - the other leagues, the cups, the other leagues in Europe, the national team, traditions of the sport. It's all Premier League. The premier League is the most important thing in the world ever.
And supporters have seemed quite happy to swallow this. I've seen QPR fans on here wishing us out of cup competitions for fear it may in some way effect our ability to either get to or stay in the Premier League. We want to move out of our home, and if necessary our area, because we perceive that we can't compete in the Premier League without some giant soulless stadium next to a Frankie and Bennies somewhere. When you look at the things that make you go to QPR you could make an argument for staying at Loftus Road and only having the occasional trip to the top division when a decent manager and team come together every now and again. But no. We're told the Premier League is important and we want the Premier League, even if it means playing in a ground that could be Southampton's or Derby's or anybody else's really out at Heathrow or Park Royal or something else - nice and big with us all a long way from the pitch so One Direction can have a concert there.
Cardiff City changed their colours and pretty soon they'll be the Cardiff Dragons or some such bullsht - but because they got a good manager in and got to the Premier League it's accepted. Hull City change their name, but because they've had one good season and got to the Premier League that's alright. We're told that as well as a giant stadium to succeed in the Premier League you also need lots of Asians wearing your shirt - and Asians don't like Rangers and City and United they like Lions and Tigers and Bears.
Traditional English football clubs are being bought out by foreigners with no idea or care for the history of the sport in this country. They want to spend big, get them to the Premier League and then use them to sell shirts in Taiwan and rake in Premier League money. In some cases, like our Russian friend down the road, they're using them for protection.
The traditional English football fan in this country who goes to all the games doesn't matter. They're told this sometimes outright (like Flavio did with us) and sometimes indirctly when clubs spend their entire summer jetting round the world for friendlies. Most are told it every week when they're charged upwards of £40 to get in.
And what are we all doing about all of this? Going along with it. Just get us to the Premier League. That's all that matters. Do what you like with my 130 year old football club. Move it, change its kit, change its name, change whatever you like until it's actually unrecognisable from what it was before. Just get it to the Premier League.
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You should write a book about the current state of English football. I'd buy it in an instant.
Clive's story about Allam, and the standoff at Coventry bear a remarkable resemblance to the story of how one George W. Bush made his money from the stadium in Arlington, Texas:
Just out of interest, how many people who bang on about their hatred of sky, are a sky subscriber. If people didnt have sky, then it couldn't ruin the game as it is doing.
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