| TF restates his commitment to the Long Term on 13:09 - Mar 19 with 803 views | QPunkR |
| TF restates his commitment to the Long Term on 09:24 - Mar 19 by baz_qpr |
Agree, and on paper Hughes was the best manager available at the time. As was Harry, so if Harry walks (and I suspect he wont if he is reassured re keeping players and transfer market) then you would like to think that the policy of pursuing the best available will continue |
Ho-ho-hold on there!!
"on paper Hughes was the best manager available at the time". Sauces please!!
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| TF restates his commitment to the Long Term on 13:23 - Mar 19 with 788 views | TGRRRSSS |
We didn't do any rebuilding we simply got a raft of new people in further increasing the overall cost of the squad an a lot of people paid way above their remit sitting around doing nothing or going out on loan where I bet some of the cost of their wages (at least) is being done by us.
I think Beard was brought in for his experience in business outside of football and this is partly where "pants have been pulled down" the interviewing of Hughes proved a fiasco and to make matters worse we have the grime that is Kia J setting out to destroy us I would imagine.
Where the owners have been lucky is they've more or less kept fans on baord despite doing things which had Briatore/Paladini or a few others attempted it would have caused a riot.
As for some of the things which are continuous problems down the years as highlighted by HunterHoop further up the thread I notice that there are quite a few people who have done the same job for quite some years now, and year in year out the same complaints keep coming and none of these thigns is ever looked at, it's the same staff running things and hence... the same old complaints rear their heads time and again.
Beard as MD/CEO is basically calling the shots underneath the chairman and for me I don't think he'd yet got a handle on things as suggested in the fans forum.
The thing is if you take the example of making Lower Loft the family stand have they realised this was a mistake and something to change, equally as another question is a "family Stand" really needed we are all QPR fans and whilst I accept some will moan about language etc in certain areas on the whole I feel that a family stand isn't something given the size of our ground we really justify Per Sey.
I also think that the club will find out more about this if/when we are in Championship and half the lower loft is pracitcally empty cos it's a school night and we're at home to Burnley and the tourists aren't going as we're not playing Liverpool/Man U /Arsenal etc anymore weekly
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| TF restates his commitment to the Long Term on 14:38 - Mar 19 with 760 views | wood_hoop |
So a chairman who has invested or pissed up the wall, depending on how you view spending millions with virtually no return, states he's in it for the 'long term' , shock horror..........is it not called 'spin' in the real world.
Of course he is going to stick around for a while, was there any doubts he wouldn't, he has fcuked up big time up to now, and will at least for a season or two try to get his stake and the other investors back, with the SKY pot now going through the roof, he has no real choice, he isn't going to get a return sitting in the Championship, cannot see him doing anything other than chasing a quick return if we do drop, which seems highly likely at this point, which will probably mean dropping even more cash onto the managers table to fill the bank accounts of yet more very average footballers.
Took a punt our Tony did, big stakes gambled, spin of the wheel has gone totally against him up to now, but then football ownership seems to be like running a casino, odds very much against you coming out on top, but plenty of mug punters in the world keep them flourishing.
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| TF restates his commitment to the Long Term on 19:53 - Mar 19 with 707 views | MkPaul |
And things were so great in the 15 years before TF came in, oh how we all must wish for those days back. And it astounds me how many multi millionaire successful football club owners we have on here who clearly know tje intricate workings of our club and the real thoughts of TF and the shareholders |  | | |
| TF restates his commitment to the Long Term on 20:16 - Mar 19 with 696 views | TacticalR |
| TF restates his commitment to the Long Term on 19:53 - Mar 19 by MkPaul |
And things were so great in the 15 years before TF came in, oh how we all must wish for those days back. And it astounds me how many multi millionaire successful football club owners we have on here who clearly know tje intricate workings of our club and the real thoughts of TF and the shareholders |
So should only 'multi-millionaire successful football club owners' be allowed to comment on QPR? Or just any old multi-millionaires?  |  |
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| TF restates his commitment to the Long Term on 20:50 - Mar 19 with 677 views | derbyhoop |
Phil Beard is not a football man. So his main jobs have been the non football side, like Warren Farm. I think a Technical Director or DOF working alongside Redknapp and Beard could work, but be careful who you wish for, e.g Damien Comoli. Francis would be ideal, but he left us when they tried to appoint Rodney to a DOF type role.
The Job Description would need to be carefully written and should be designed with making long term improvements to the football side. This could include the Academy, oversight of the scouting, planning for the next manager and helping to identify players at an early stage.
It would be nice to believe TF's staement, which may or may not turn out to be true. The club needs a serious sort out, and it can't be done overnight. The big issue is whether the investors have the stomach for the long term when they are not getting continual exposure in SE Asia. |  |
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| TF restates his commitment to the Long Term on 23:24 - Mar 19 with 645 views | zicoshoops |
| TF restates his commitment to the Long Term on 14:38 - Mar 19 by wood_hoop |
So a chairman who has invested or pissed up the wall, depending on how you view spending millions with virtually no return, states he's in it for the 'long term' , shock horror..........is it not called 'spin' in the real world.
Of course he is going to stick around for a while, was there any doubts he wouldn't, he has fcuked up big time up to now, and will at least for a season or two try to get his stake and the other investors back, with the SKY pot now going through the roof, he has no real choice, he isn't going to get a return sitting in the Championship, cannot see him doing anything other than chasing a quick return if we do drop, which seems highly likely at this point, which will probably mean dropping even more cash onto the managers table to fill the bank accounts of yet more very average footballers.
Took a punt our Tony did, big stakes gambled, spin of the wheel has gone totally against him up to now, but then football ownership seems to be like running a casino, odds very much against you coming out on top, but plenty of mug punters in the world keep them flourishing.
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+1.
Did what most new owners do.......sack the Manager then bring in their own man.
Hung onto him far too long.
Self delusional?.............Or just difficult to admit what everyone else and their Uncle could see.
I was told that Stevie Wonder was ringing the Club everyday since September, asking........
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| TF restates his commitment to the Long Term on 01:12 - Mar 20 with 623 views | merovingian |
Look at this way, the managers & several half-committed football players who actually blundered.
TF just provided the money.
Read the the above 2 sentences again & make sure to understand it so, without prejudice. |  |
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| TF restates his commitment to the Long Term on 01:48 - Mar 20 with 614 views | FredManRave |
| TF restates his commitment to the Long Term on 09:24 - Mar 19 by baz_qpr |
Agree, and on paper Hughes was the best manager available at the time. As was Harry, so if Harry walks (and I suspect he wont if he is reassured re keeping players and transfer market) then you would like to think that the policy of pursuing the best available will continue |
I thought that Steve Cotterill had been brought in with a view to taking over if we were to get relegated with (maybe) Redknapp moving upstairs. |  |
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| TF restates his commitment to the Long Term on 07:19 - Mar 20 with 599 views | Westy75 |
| TF restates his commitment to the Long Term on 01:48 - Mar 20 by FredManRave |
I thought that Steve Cotterill had been brought in with a view to taking over if we were to get relegated with (maybe) Redknapp moving upstairs. |
Purely conjecture. I would be extremely surprised if that happened. |  | | |
| TF restates his commitment to the Long Term on 13:28 - Mar 20 with 553 views | NW5Hoop |
| TF restates his commitment to the Long Term on 01:12 - Mar 20 by merovingian |
Look at this way, the managers & several half-committed football players who actually blundered.
TF just provided the money.
Read the the above 2 sentences again & make sure to understand it so, without prejudice. |
No, Fernandes provided the strategy. Fernandes hired the senior management team - the people who bought those players and agreed those contracts. Fernandes wanted the team filled with big names, to sell Air Asia abroad.
Hughes was shit. But it was not all Hughes's fault. Fernandes has to take a share of the blame here.
And before someone — as someone always does - accuses me of being a hater, of wanting to drive him away, of undermining the club … No. I don't hate him. I hope he learns and ends up doing a very good job. But he hasn't done a very good job so far. | | | |
| TF restates his commitment to the Long Term on 13:44 - Mar 20 with 534 views | rsonist |
| TF restates his commitment to the Long Term on 01:48 - Mar 20 by FredManRave |
I thought that Steve Cotterill had been brought in with a view to taking over if we were to get relegated with (maybe) Redknapp moving upstairs. |
It would be very QPR if the one bit of deliberate medium-term planning we do happens to also be the worst idea ever |  | | |
| TF restates his commitment to the Long Term on 13:45 - Mar 20 with 531 views | R_from_afar |
Fernandes has been completely thoughtless, selfishly getting in the way of the long line of billionaire, London based, man and boy Rangers fans waiting patiently to take over the sure fire commercial success which is QPR FC.
At least we have owners who as far as anyone can tell - give them a break here - have the right intentions, make mostly logical choices - for Hughes and Redknapp really did seem the best candidates on paper at the time (no cheating and using hindsight please) - and back their managers with their cash. It wasn't long ago that we were bemoaning Flavio and Bernie's parsimony.
No one is obliged to come along and run our club. Prospective football club owners with money are in short supply when it comes to lower profile clubs like ours, as other struggling clubs are finding out to their cost.
I am not saying TF is perfect, he hung onto Hughes for too long, but I would be surprised if we ever have better owners than the current ones. Oh, and one other thing: There is a chance that Fernandes is not just in it for the money, that he's just a man with a lot of money who fancies a bit of challenge and a lot of excitement in a glamorous and high profile industry.
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| TF restates his commitment to the Long Term on 14:44 - Mar 20 with 518 views | TacticalR |
| TF restates his commitment to the Long Term on 13:28 - Mar 20 by NW5Hoop |
No, Fernandes provided the strategy. Fernandes hired the senior management team - the people who bought those players and agreed those contracts. Fernandes wanted the team filled with big names, to sell Air Asia abroad.
Hughes was shit. But it was not all Hughes's fault. Fernandes has to take a share of the blame here.
And before someone — as someone always does - accuses me of being a hater, of wanting to drive him away, of undermining the club … No. I don't hate him. I hope he learns and ends up doing a very good job. But he hasn't done a very good job so far. |
I have to agree here, otherwise we are like the Chinese peasants of old who blamed their misfortunes on local officials, believing the Emperor would never allow such things.
It also explains why even Warnock bought non-Warnock type players.
And when we say 'Fernandes', who do we mean exactly? Fernandes himself? The other (visible) Malaysian shareholders? Or the section of the Malaysian government that Fernandes is linked to (as mentioned by luckycharms on QPRReport)?
http://qprreport.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=general&action=display&thread=288 | |
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