| Faurlin 14:49 - Jan 10 with 12300 views | QPRDave |
Palermo asked to take him on loan and we have said no |  | | |  |
| Faurlin on 15:57 - Jan 10 with 1312 views | Antti_Heinola |
| Faurlin on 15:32 - Jan 10 by Gloucs_R |
As much as I like Ale, I trust Harry more and if he doesnt think he is good enough then so be it. |
You trust Harry? Really? I think he's a good manager, but do i trust him? Not in a million years. At this moment we should be desperately holding on to players like Faurlin who have a proper feeling and affiliation for the club - and are probably on a lot less then our 'stars' too. |  |
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| Faurlin on 15:59 - Jan 10 with 1296 views | Northernr |
| Faurlin on 15:55 - Jan 10 by ellersliehoop |
I agree with your philosophy of "work with what we have" when it comes to the midfield as we have hundred of midfielders. Surely you cant be saying that to central defence as we dont actually have anything other than Hill now (as Anton doesnt count)?
And surely the same applies to forwards as Cisse is likely to move on? |
Well it depends if the people we can get in are actually any better than Hill and Ferdinand. We've worked ourselves into a position where we're a buyer in a seller's market. Any club we make an offer to knows we're desperate, and any player we discuss terms with is basically only going to consider coming to the club if we offer ludicrous wages. If we do offer ludicrous wages then in six months time we're quite possibly going to be attempting to shift on a load of players that are quite happy with earning big money at QPR and know no other team will pay them as much. By doing that we'll have gone from being a buyer in a seller's market to a seller in a buyer's market in six months - which is a very QPR thing to do.
So if you tell me that Jonas Olsson will come here for a reasonable wage for £4m or whatever then fck me buy buy buy we're desperate for a player like that. But if you tell me William Gallas is coming here for £60,000 a week and a three year deal then we'd be better off not bothering at all. |  | | |
| Faurlin on 16:02 - Jan 10 with 1272 views | Gloucs_R |
| Faurlin on 15:51 - Jan 10 by Northernr |
But we're already finding that nobody decent will come to us in our situation. So what you're saying there is we should sell a good player so we can afford to buy a crap one.
Why is the QPR mentality always to buy another player anyway. Are we going to persuade a player as good as Faurlin to come to QPR at the moment? No. So work with what you have.
Sooner the window closes the better, we're a bloody danger to ourselves with it open. |
Not saying its right....just another way of looking at it. |  |
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| Faurlin on 16:03 - Jan 10 with 1268 views | Northernr |
| Faurlin on 16:02 - Jan 10 by Gloucs_R |
Not saying its right....just another way of looking at it. |
Yeh, another way of looking at it that doesn't make it any better. Whatever way you look at it it's a stupid thing to do. | | | |
| Faurlin on 16:04 - Jan 10 with 1257 views | DieByYourSide |
Christ, there's a reason an established Serie A team is coming in for him. Why oh why are we always so desperate to make signings. If we have to sell Faurlin to accomodate Livermore then don't do it. |  |
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| Faurlin on 16:04 - Jan 10 with 1251 views | Toast_R |
Letting Faurlin go will be a complete nightmare to be honest.
The only decent signing the club has spent money on in years and he's about to quit whilst dicks like Park amble about half arsed and with half the sense.
This is a bit like when we sold Routledge off to Newcastle.
Redknapp is making a grave error here. Faurlin, Hoilett, Taarabt, Onuha... that's a decent start to getting a promotion winning side with potential to grow, we shouldnt even be contemplating getting rid of any of these. |  | | |
| Faurlin on 16:05 - Jan 10 with 1245 views | ellersliehoop |
| Faurlin on 15:59 - Jan 10 by Northernr |
Well it depends if the people we can get in are actually any better than Hill and Ferdinand. We've worked ourselves into a position where we're a buyer in a seller's market. Any club we make an offer to knows we're desperate, and any player we discuss terms with is basically only going to consider coming to the club if we offer ludicrous wages. If we do offer ludicrous wages then in six months time we're quite possibly going to be attempting to shift on a load of players that are quite happy with earning big money at QPR and know no other team will pay them as much. By doing that we'll have gone from being a buyer in a seller's market to a seller in a buyer's market in six months - which is a very QPR thing to do.
So if you tell me that Jonas Olsson will come here for a reasonable wage for £4m or whatever then fck me buy buy buy we're desperate for a player like that. But if you tell me William Gallas is coming here for £60,000 a week and a three year deal then we'd be better off not bothering at all. |
Agreed, a 3 year deal for Gallas would be madness irrespective of our league position. I would have thought 18 months maximum
Do you not think though with say the addition of Olsson, Gallas, Livermore & Graham our chances of staying up would be significantly enhanced?
Olsson & Graham would have decent resale value in the summer thus leaving us with only Gallas on the payroll | | | |
| Faurlin on 16:10 - Jan 10 with 1230 views | JonDoeman |
"Sooner the window closes the better, we're a bloody danger to ourselves with it open. "
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| Faurlin on 16:11 - Jan 10 with 1215 views | Northernr |
| Faurlin on 16:05 - Jan 10 by ellersliehoop |
Agreed, a 3 year deal for Gallas would be madness irrespective of our league position. I would have thought 18 months maximum
Do you not think though with say the addition of Olsson, Gallas, Livermore & Graham our chances of staying up would be significantly enhanced?
Olsson & Graham would have decent resale value in the summer thus leaving us with only Gallas on the payroll |
Yes of course they'd improve us, but what I'm saying is to persuade them to come to us in our situation we'd probably have to pay them more than they're worth and give them longer contracts than we would like. It's all very well saying "only 18 months for Gallas" but then where's the incentive for him to come to us? We'd have to pay big and offer long to get them here. The advantage is entirely with the players when they're talking to us.
Then, if we are relegated, we'll find what Newcastle found: it's all very well saying "oh we want rid of x y and z" but you have to find a buyer for them. And if we've offered those four big money on a long contract they would have to take a pay cut to leave. And why would they do that? So then we've exacerbated a situation we're already going to have anyway where we have a dozen players we simply can't afford in the league below but who are on such wonderful contracts they won't go anywhere else. | | | |
| Faurlin on 16:17 - Jan 10 with 1187 views | ellersliehoop |
| Faurlin on 16:11 - Jan 10 by Northernr |
Yes of course they'd improve us, but what I'm saying is to persuade them to come to us in our situation we'd probably have to pay them more than they're worth and give them longer contracts than we would like. It's all very well saying "only 18 months for Gallas" but then where's the incentive for him to come to us? We'd have to pay big and offer long to get them here. The advantage is entirely with the players when they're talking to us.
Then, if we are relegated, we'll find what Newcastle found: it's all very well saying "oh we want rid of x y and z" but you have to find a buyer for them. And if we've offered those four big money on a long contract they would have to take a pay cut to leave. And why would they do that? So then we've exacerbated a situation we're already going to have anyway where we have a dozen players we simply can't afford in the league below but who are on such wonderful contracts they won't go anywhere else. |
Gallas is out of contract in the summer so the incentive for him would an additional 12 months and the "pull" of Harry of course. I dont see Gallas right now being inundated with offers
Graham would get first team football, and Olsson his move to London so perhaps it wouldn't need to be the financial incentive to get them onboard
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| Faurlin on 16:17 - Jan 10 with 1179 views | Antti_Heinola |
If we want to get rid of a midfielder that badly, then there would be plenty - PLENTY - of takers for Park Ji Sung. | |
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| Faurlin on 16:18 - Jan 10 with 1175 views | Northernr |
| Faurlin on 16:17 - Jan 10 by ellersliehoop |
Gallas is out of contract in the summer so the incentive for him would an additional 12 months and the "pull" of Harry of course. I dont see Gallas right now being inundated with offers
Graham would get first team football, and Olsson his move to London so perhaps it wouldn't need to be the financial incentive to get them onboard
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Considering Graham has got four goals in four games for Swansea I'd suggest it would need plenty of financial incentive to not only persuade him to come here, but also to ward off competitors.
We have to be very, very careful is all I'm saying. In almost every case we've been linked with so far this January - Olsson and Graham apart - I've ended up thinking we'd be better off not bothering. | | | |
| Faurlin on 16:23 - Jan 10 with 1152 views | hoof_hearted |
| Faurlin on 16:18 - Jan 10 by Northernr |
Considering Graham has got four goals in four games for Swansea I'd suggest it would need plenty of financial incentive to not only persuade him to come here, but also to ward off competitors.
We have to be very, very careful is all I'm saying. In almost every case we've been linked with so far this January - Olsson and Graham apart - I've ended up thinking we'd be better off not bothering. |
Just to clarify, are you still ignoring these threads?  |  | | |
| Faurlin on 16:31 - Jan 10 with 1125 views | bosh67 |
I really like Faurlin and I think it would be lunacy to let him go. However, the injury he had I don't think he's fully recovered from. I agree with Clive, he's been brought back too quickly and plays too many 90 minutes. I do feel that given the right ongoing rehab program and given his age that we could get him back firing on all cylinders, but it does appear that maybe Harry doesn't see it, or perhaps he worries that given his lack of pace since the injury that at higher levels he may not only get caught out, but be prone to picking up another similar injury. I really like Faurlin and I hope he stays and gets back in the team. |  |
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| Faurlin on 16:36 - Jan 10 with 1107 views | EalingRanger |
| Faurlin on 15:32 - Jan 10 by Gloucs_R |
As much as I like Ale, I trust Harry more and if he doesnt think he is good enough then so be it. |
Really you trust 'Arry more? Letting Faurlin go would be a huge long-term mistake for the club given that we are likely to be relegated by May.
Where do you think 'Arry will be in 6 months if that happens? Trust doesn't even come into it. |  | | |
| Faurlin on 16:38 - Jan 10 with 1100 views | daveB |
Danny Graham would also be giving up a possible cup final appearance and a probable winners medal by coming here for a relegation battle. I'd love to get him but I think that ship has sailed. |  | | |
| Faurlin on 16:51 - Jan 10 with 1047 views | toboboly |
So we get rid of a good player, a proven player, and people are happy that it means we get a LOAN in?
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| Faurlin on 16:51 - Jan 10 with 1046 views | QPRDave |
| Faurlin on 16:38 - Jan 10 by daveB |
Danny Graham would also be giving up a possible cup final appearance and a probable winners medal by coming here for a relegation battle. I'd love to get him but I think that ship has sailed. |
Do you not think he has the chance of a cup final appearance with us then???.....................  | | | |
| Faurlin on 16:58 - Jan 10 with 1022 views | Tonto |
I like the guy and he has been one of my favourite players over the last few years:
but I would ad one more thing - one more knock to that knee and he is done. he has got noticably slower since the second knock. And he wasn't exactly pacy to start with.
If someone offers decent money for him I really would consider it (all be it with a heavy heart), and let them take the risk. |  |
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| Faurlin on 17:07 - Jan 10 with 993 views | BasingstokeR |
I'll go nucking futs if we transfer Faurlin out. My favourite player. He's class. |  | | |
| Faurlin on 17:13 - Jan 10 with 968 views | Jigsore |
How much do you want a bet that if we sold him he'd go out and be fcuking brilliant week in week out. Needs a club who can actually do things properly tbh |  |
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| Faurlin on 17:18 - Jan 10 with 951 views | Pey |
If QPR are letting one of our best players leave i will be very furious with this club and its policy.
HR can have a proper F*ck You if he really thinks we are better off without Faurlin.
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| Faurlin on 17:20 - Jan 10 with 942 views | Hunterhoop |
| Faurlin on 17:07 - Jan 10 by BasingstokeR |
I'll go nucking futs if we transfer Faurlin out. My favourite player. He's class. |
Yep. Exactly the same. Absolute madness to let him go.
If we let Faurlin go Redknapp can f*ck right off.
Honestly, I think this would be the worst bit of business QPR will have ever done in their history.
Ale is still young, has proven he can perform superbly in the Prem, gives his all and cares for the club. The only issue, as Clive points out, is he struggles to maintain performance levels for 4 or 5 games on the trott. But then he is coming back from a horrific injury and he did so way ahead of scedule. A tiny investment in his rehab and managing him properly and we could have the lynchpin of our team for the next decade.
Nah, let him go and sign some Spurs reserve on load. F*CKING GREAT LONG TERM PLANNING THIS, RANGERS!
Christ, I want to go to the club, throttle Beard, shake TF till he comes to his senses and give Redknapp a slap for even considering this.
PLEASE PLAN FOR NEXT YEAR!! PLEASE!!
Faurlin is young, good, committed. He's pisses all over the Championship and he's not on much. He is the last player we should let go ahead of next season.
Finally, the other way to look at this, is name me a better CM tha Ale, IN THE WORLD, who would even consider joining us???
no....me neither.
We can't sign someone better than him in his own position because no one better than him will want to play in the Championship unless we pay them a ridiculous salary, which we're then locked into even if the fecker stops trying.
THIS IS MADNESS OF THE HIGHEST ORDER.
I'd rather we sign no one. Absolutely no one and keep Ale.
In fact, I'd rather we go down and keep Ale than leave it to chance whether we survive but let him go. |  | | |
| Faurlin on 17:30 - Jan 10 with 918 views | simmo |
| Faurlin on 17:07 - Jan 10 by BasingstokeR |
I'll go nucking futs if we transfer Faurlin out. My favourite player. He's class. |
Exactly this, the boy is class and his ability has shone through even during manger changes and ownership changes and personal shite like his transfer saga. He is a good age and shown that with proper management he could be consistently brilliant.
If he is sold I will have a hissy fit the likes of which nobody has seen. |  |
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| Faurlin on 17:32 - Jan 10 with 909 views | ShotKneesHoop |
We will go down, that's why we should keep Ale. We have enough bleeding wasters in the 25 at the mo, without getting rid of someone who actually gives a Jonathan. |  |
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