| 'Experienced' Manager Apply within 18:04 - Jan 14 with 3235 views | AndyH |
Maybe too late to rescue but inexperience has cost us dearly........ |  | | |  |
| 'Experienced' Manager Apply within on 18:08 - Jan 14 with 3188 views | MattDalemon |
No experienced manager will want to come here under the terms and conditions we offer. We can't compete in this league on our budget and crowds, we have punched above our weight massively since we got promoted. | | | |
| 'Experienced' Manager Apply within on 18:17 - Jan 14 with 3145 views | 442Dale |
| 'Experienced' Manager Apply within on 18:08 - Jan 14 by MattDalemon |
No experienced manager will want to come here under the terms and conditions we offer. We can't compete in this league on our budget and crowds, we have punched above our weight massively since we got promoted. |
What are our terms and budget? |  |
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| 'Experienced' Manager Apply within on 18:21 - Jan 14 with 3114 views | olympicdale |
| 'Experienced' Manager Apply within on 18:08 - Jan 14 by MattDalemon |
No experienced manager will want to come here under the terms and conditions we offer. We can't compete in this league on our budget and crowds, we have punched above our weight massively since we got promoted. |
i cant stand this 'punching above our weight' stuff, its just like saying we should know our place, what would that be, 18th in L2? This is the attitude from the fans Hill fought against with bringing the club forward, making the club believe we could achieve, which has been lost since he left. |  |
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| 'Experienced' Manager Apply within on 18:24 - Jan 14 with 3088 views | BigKindo |
| 'Experienced' Manager Apply within on 18:08 - Jan 14 by MattDalemon |
No experienced manager will want to come here under the terms and conditions we offer. We can't compete in this league on our budget and crowds, we have punched above our weight massively since we got promoted. |
And Stevenage and The Buckets and............. |  | | |
| 'Experienced' Manager Apply within on 18:30 - Jan 14 with 3061 views | D_Alien |
| 'Experienced' Manager Apply within on 18:21 - Jan 14 by olympicdale |
i cant stand this 'punching above our weight' stuff, its just like saying we should know our place, what would that be, 18th in L2? This is the attitude from the fans Hill fought against with bringing the club forward, making the club believe we could achieve, which has been lost since he left. |
Agreed
tbh, I'd be happy if we were just "punching" at the moment, at any weight! |  |
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| 'Experienced' Manager Apply within on 18:44 - Jan 14 with 3011 views | olympicdale |
| 'Experienced' Manager Apply within on 18:30 - Jan 14 by D_Alien |
Agreed
tbh, I'd be happy if we were just "punching" at the moment, at any weight! |
its like saying know your place dont think you can ever achieve, we have every right to be where we are, we have earned it. | |
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| 'Experienced' Manager Apply within on 18:47 - Jan 14 with 3001 views | Bobbyjoe |
Chopping and changing gets you nowhere. It's too easy to say, "Sack this manager.......Get rid of that player!". You have to adopt a strategy for at least a season, then re-assess. A Hill/Eyre/Beech-type appointment is still the way forward, for me. The worrying prospect is (or should be), reaching the same point next season, and for things to still be in disarray. Managed decline may not be a very inspiring rallying-cry, but it's surely better than sinking without trace. | | | |
| 'Experienced' Manager Apply within on 18:55 - Jan 14 with 2957 views | cornishdale |
I also hate this Rochdale are punching above their weight. Its absolute rubbish. this team deserves to be in league 1 because of a sustained effort over 4 years. lets be honest if we based our resources on how far we can punch our weight we would be struggling in the conference.
Our team has moved on and how dare anyone suggest fans should accept this. Hilcroft did not believe it and stuck two fingers up at tradition and got us promoted and sustained our position. We are doing poorly now because we have had clueless managers who do not know what systems to play, who plays where, how to motivate a team and get the best out of them, as well as signings players who woulf fill the actual voids. The board have done this on the cheap and ultimatley i believe relegation will cost this club more. We should of pushed on invested in a manager who could take us to that next level. For gods sake apparantley unbelievable managers wanted the job. |  | | |
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| 'Experienced' Manager Apply within on 19:00 - Jan 14 with 2932 views | PassmondsBlue |
Go for experience then, who would come?
Paul Ince
Peter Read
Ronny Moore
Mark Robins
Do they know more than Chris Beach or have the club at heart like Chris Beach | |
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| 'Experienced' Manager Apply within on 19:04 - Jan 14 with 2904 views | Rooleyblue |
| 'Experienced' Manager Apply within on 19:00 - Jan 14 by PassmondsBlue |
Go for experience then, who would come?
Paul Ince
Peter Read
Ronny Moore
Mark Robins
Do they know more than Chris Beach or have the club at heart like Chris Beach |
it wouldn't matter if they had the club at heart, as long as they did the job they were paid to do.
if they do well at Rochdale, who knows where the next job could be, ie Hillcroft. | | | |
| 'Experienced' Manager Apply within on 19:12 - Jan 14 with 2874 views | SteTsGoldenBoot |
| 'Experienced' Manager Apply within on 19:00 - Jan 14 by PassmondsBlue |
Go for experience then, who would come?
Paul Ince
Peter Read
Ronny Moore
Mark Robins
Do they know more than Chris Beach or have the club at heart like Chris Beach |
Iain Dowie lives in Bolton, I spose its if he wants to get on the Manager merry go round or happy on soccer Saturday.
May be worth a punt.
Andy Ritchie's wage demands would now be much lower I would expect, but has he been out the game to long.
If we were to stop going for the most expensive cheap options ever, i'd go for John Coleman, he cant be on a fortune at Accy, and would have 5 months to build for next season. |  |
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| 'Experienced' Manager Apply within on 19:16 - Jan 14 with 2851 views | SuddenLad |
| 'Experienced' Manager Apply within on 19:00 - Jan 14 by PassmondsBlue |
Go for experience then, who would come?
Paul Ince
Peter Read
Ronny Moore
Mark Robins
Do they know more than Chris Beach or have the club at heart like Chris Beach |
If Ince came anywhere near Spotland, I'd be spending a lot more time at home on a Saturday afternoon.
I hope someone at the club can tell us that this is another story way off the mark:
http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11765/7429248/
As if we weren't in enough trouble................ |  |
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| 'Experienced' Manager Apply within on 19:24 - Jan 14 with 2822 views | DroylsdenBlue |
I don't understand why people want Coleman from Accy, Isnt that going back to the little Rochdale mentality? We missed a great opportunity when Hill left, we were in the best position in history to be able to attract a decent manager. We will now struggle, as much as I wanted Beech to do well he clearly isn't up to the job | | | |
| 'Experienced' Manager Apply within on 19:27 - Jan 14 with 2791 views | SteTsGoldenBoot |
| 'Experienced' Manager Apply within on 19:24 - Jan 14 by DroylsdenBlue |
I don't understand why people want Coleman from Accy, Isnt that going back to the little Rochdale mentality? We missed a great opportunity when Hill left, we were in the best position in history to be able to attract a decent manager. We will now struggle, as much as I wanted Beech to do well he clearly isn't up to the job |
Because he 'pulls rabbits out of hats' on a shoestring budget perhaps? | |
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| 'Experienced' Manager Apply within on 19:28 - Jan 14 with 2780 views | SuddenLad |
| 'Experienced' Manager Apply within on 19:24 - Jan 14 by DroylsdenBlue |
I don't understand why people want Coleman from Accy, Isnt that going back to the little Rochdale mentality? We missed a great opportunity when Hill left, we were in the best position in history to be able to attract a decent manager. We will now struggle, as much as I wanted Beech to do well he clearly isn't up to the job |
It boils down to the fact that John Coleman has performed minor miracles at a club with low crowds, a crap budget, and has consistently produced a team who get good results against all the odds. He wouldn't (presumably) want much in terms of salary (compared to other candidates) so he's a knocking bet.
Our Board will be drooling at the prospect............. | |
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| 'Experienced' Manager Apply within on 19:32 - Jan 14 with 2749 views | olympicdale |
| 'Experienced' Manager Apply within on 19:28 - Jan 14 by SuddenLad |
It boils down to the fact that John Coleman has performed minor miracles at a club with low crowds, a crap budget, and has consistently produced a team who get good results against all the odds. He wouldn't (presumably) want much in terms of salary (compared to other candidates) so he's a knocking bet.
Our Board will be drooling at the prospect............. |
as much as id love Coleman, what he's done at Accy really has to be respected, but surely he wouldnt want to leave, which must be a job for life, to come here as we are. | |
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| 'Experienced' Manager Apply within on 19:44 - Jan 14 with 2689 views | sandylaner1 |
| 'Experienced' Manager Apply within on 19:32 - Jan 14 by olympicdale |
as much as id love Coleman, what he's done at Accy really has to be respected, but surely he wouldnt want to leave, which must be a job for life, to come here as we are. |
thats what I think, but stranger things have happened... |  | | |
| 'Experienced' Manager Apply within on 19:52 - Jan 14 with 2662 views | YouTubeDale |
| 'Experienced' Manager Apply within on 19:32 - Jan 14 by olympicdale |
as much as id love Coleman, what he's done at Accy really has to be respected, but surely he wouldnt want to leave, which must be a job for life, to come here as we are. |
No disrespect to Accy but we are a better club. No debts, a better ground, and a bigger fanbase. Coleman has an even better chance of promoting us back to League 1 than him getting Accy up.
Not a "little Rochdale" mentality at all, but one which is realistic, and very hopeful. He has proved himself for many years now being on the fringes of promotion.
I want Beech to succeed. If he fails, it could be a blessing in disguise if we get Coleman as a result. |  |
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| 'Experienced' Manager Apply within on 19:55 - Jan 14 with 2647 views | 442Dale |
| 'Experienced' Manager Apply within on 19:52 - Jan 14 by YouTubeDale |
No disrespect to Accy but we are a better club. No debts, a better ground, and a bigger fanbase. Coleman has an even better chance of promoting us back to League 1 than him getting Accy up.
Not a "little Rochdale" mentality at all, but one which is realistic, and very hopeful. He has proved himself for many years now being on the fringes of promotion.
I want Beech to succeed. If he fails, it could be a blessing in disguise if we get Coleman as a result. |
If we were in League 2 with Accrington right now they'd be above us, and we might be getting about 4/500 more fans. If we're lucky. | |
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| 'Experienced' Manager Apply within on 20:05 - Jan 14 with 2604 views | DroylsdenBlue |
It would appear I am in a minority with regard to Mr Coleman! Andy Ritchie or even Brian Horton would do a decent job but what we need is somebody who will give us the lift we need to survive just Sunderland have hadG [Post edited 1 Jan 1970 1:00]
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| 'Experienced' Manager Apply within on 20:08 - Jan 14 with 2594 views | YouTubeDale |
Like I said a good few moons ago...Coleman is mustard. | |
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| 'Experienced' Manager Apply within on 10:20 - Jan 15 with 2483 views | AndyH |
To get back to the OP... I think our recent 'experience's' tell us that at this level, inexperience has cost us. With hindsight I think, on paper, Eyre's credentials looked good for the 'long term' strategy. Young, good with youth players, bring them on & sell them for sustainability. Not forgetting his contacts within the game and obviously Man City. That aside, the one thing he nor Frankie Bunn had was managerial experience at Division One level.
If we stick with Chris Beech, however, we are back with the original problem... no experience. Those may argue that Hill didn't have experience. However, different league, different level, different expectations... We have tried but... no one can be criticised for trying... I'm sure we all want the same thing.
I am told that 5th from bottom of League One attracts £750k in prize money. 3rd from top of League 2 is £5k.... No maths needed...
We need experience and someone to steady the ship... whoever that may be, who knows? Irrespective of who is appointed I think it is already too late. We've been here before and we will come back again... lets just hope I'm still around to see it
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| 'Experienced' Manager Apply within on 10:26 - Jan 15 with 2459 views | fitzochris |
Just a note on Coleman. I too would love to see him as our manager, and did so before Eyre was appointed, but no one seems to be mentioning the contract extension he's signed with Accrington.
A lot of money has been blown by us this season on loans (or so I'm led to believe) and we also had to pay Eyre and Bunn off. The compensation owed to Accrington for taking Coleman would be a considerable amount for us, so I think it makes it a non-starter.
And that's before you even ask the question of whether or not Coleman would want to come to us. |  |
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