| Ten-man Baggies latest to trap QPR in low block ball-ache – Report 21:35 - Mar 9 with 5119 views | Northernr |
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| Ten-man Baggies latest to trap QPR in low block ball-ache – Report on 15:04 - Mar 10 with 1247 views | stainrods_elbow |
| Ten-man Baggies latest to trap QPR in low block ball-ache – Report on 14:49 - Mar 10 by Northernr |
And actually everybody trying to play the same way as Man City has been a completely flawed tactic for the last decade because at the end of the day they'll just spend another billion quid and be better at it than you with better players.
I personally find that sort of football every bit as tedious to watch as Pulis-ball. |
Wow! I guess we inhabit different footballing planets then - but I'm hardly a lone wolf! Anyone in football who wants to play it with all possible panache has been massively inspired and educated by Guardiola in recent years (and frequently said so).
As for the haves and haves nots, though the gaps may have got wider, twas ever thus in professional football, I'm afraid. Resenting the rich for being rich is understandable, but, for me anyway, it doesn't completely corrode my enthusiasm and romanticism for rattling the cages of the so-called big boys. And both Manchester clubs' seasons are an object lesson, surely, in how you can spend massive money and still fail on the pitch. [Post edited 10 Mar 15:13]
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| Ten-man Baggies latest to trap QPR in low block ball-ache – Report on 15:06 - Mar 10 with 1251 views | Konk |
I am currently finding it incredibly frustrating watching my son's team doing the pass-it-around-in-the-box bit whenever they get a goal-kick. Usually on a pitch like a ploughed field, and when by the third time they've done it, even the kids on the other side have figured out exactly what is going to happen. We've conceded so many goals this way that you find yourself hoping the ref gives the opposition a corner rather than a goal-kick. Still, trust the process. |  |
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| Ten-man Baggies latest to trap QPR in low block ball-ache – Report on 15:12 - Mar 10 with 1215 views | Myke |
| Ten-man Baggies latest to trap QPR in low block ball-ache – Report on 15:06 - Mar 10 by Konk |
I am currently finding it incredibly frustrating watching my son's team doing the pass-it-around-in-the-box bit whenever they get a goal-kick. Usually on a pitch like a ploughed field, and when by the third time they've done it, even the kids on the other side have figured out exactly what is going to happen. We've conceded so many goals this way that you find yourself hoping the ref gives the opposition a corner rather than a goal-kick. Still, trust the process. |
My school's team recently won a game 5-1 and four of the goals came from dispossessing the oppo from their own goal kick. As for our goal kicks - Pulis would have been proud! |  | | |
| Ten-man Baggies latest to trap QPR in low block ball-ache – Report on 15:23 - Mar 10 with 1170 views | Konk |
| Ten-man Baggies latest to trap QPR in low block ball-ache – Report on 15:12 - Mar 10 by Myke |
My school's team recently won a game 5-1 and four of the goals came from dispossessing the oppo from their own goal kick. As for our goal kicks - Pulis would have been proud! |
I love our coaches to bits, but it is insane. And on the very rare occasion that one of the defenders involved panics and tries to smash it down the pitch, it either goes straight to one of the opposition who is camped on the edge of our box, or lands somewhere between our box and halfway, where we have no players because most of our team are still in our bloody box. I'm getting stressed just thinking about it! | |
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| Ten-man Baggies latest to trap QPR in low block ball-ache – Report on 16:12 - Mar 10 with 1066 views | Rsole |
| Ten-man Baggies latest to trap QPR in low block ball-ache – Report on 15:06 - Mar 10 by Konk |
I am currently finding it incredibly frustrating watching my son's team doing the pass-it-around-in-the-box bit whenever they get a goal-kick. Usually on a pitch like a ploughed field, and when by the third time they've done it, even the kids on the other side have figured out exactly what is going to happen. We've conceded so many goals this way that you find yourself hoping the ref gives the opposition a corner rather than a goal-kick. Still, trust the process. |
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| Those possessed by devils, try and keep them under control a bit, can't you ?
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| Ten-man Baggies latest to trap QPR in low block ball-ache – Report on 16:23 - Mar 10 with 1041 views | Rsole |
| Ten-man Baggies latest to trap QPR in low block ball-ache – Report on 15:00 - Mar 10 by Northernr |
Totally with you mate. |
I had assumed that EFL teams are coached to play out from the back because the coaches sometimes get better jobs for implementing the system.
The same with the 4:2:3:1 approach. It might not work with the players you have but you may be moving on to a team that needs that approach and therefore you become more marketable as a coach.
Exacerbated by owners and CEOs who are clearly trying to find players for this systems so they can sell them to a bigger club. Round pegs in round holes - Ka’ching.
Not unique to football.
We see this everyday at work too - people who didn’t give a shit about ESG and climate yesterday who claim to be an expert today so they get a promotion or a role with another employer. | |
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| Ten-man Baggies latest to trap QPR in low block ball-ache – Report on 16:38 - Mar 10 with 1014 views | Konk |
| Ten-man Baggies latest to trap QPR in low block ball-ache – Report on 16:12 - Mar 10 by Rsole |
Does he play for Southampton ? |
Haha! No, but any of our defenders or keeper could now slot very easily into a Russell Martin side, so they do have that in their favour as they get older. My Dad played CB and he can't even watch when we have a goal kick. | |
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| Ten-man Baggies latest to trap QPR in low block ball-ache – Report on 16:38 - Mar 10 with 1011 views | Rangersw12 |
| Ten-man Baggies latest to trap QPR in low block ball-ache – Report on 15:23 - Mar 10 by Konk |
I love our coaches to bits, but it is insane. And on the very rare occasion that one of the defenders involved panics and tries to smash it down the pitch, it either goes straight to one of the opposition who is camped on the edge of our box, or lands somewhere between our box and halfway, where we have no players because most of our team are still in our bloody box. I'm getting stressed just thinking about it! |
It's a tough one but I suppose the coach thinks they will need to learn how to play out in order to compete in higher divisions
Best time to learn it is when they have the rule that all the opposition players have to behind the centre circle and it's non competitive . After that it will be nigh on impossible to learn as they will just get boxed in
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| Ten-man Baggies latest to trap QPR in low block ball-ache – Report on 16:51 - Mar 10 with 977 views | Third_Division_South |
Yes Saito was close with his diving header and yes he should have scored. But, had he been a ‘true’ striker he’d have been 6 inches taller and would have scored and what’s more, it was a brilliant run into the box that I’m not sure any of our other strikers would have made. | | | |
| Ten-man Baggies latest to trap QPR in low block ball-ache – Report on 16:55 - Mar 10 with 965 views | NewYorkRanger |
| Ten-man Baggies latest to trap QPR in low block ball-ache – Report on 14:59 - Mar 10 by stainrods_elbow |
Who's rattled your cage today? I made a qualified parallel, which I explained. Guess you're another who prefers to play the man rather than the ball, eh? |
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| Ten-man Baggies latest to trap QPR in low block ball-ache – Report on 19:00 - Mar 10 with 784 views | thehat |
Thanks Clive - Some great lines to help ease the pain.
I wasn't there and didn't watch the match on a stream but as soon as I saw the team sheet and all the midget 10's I knew we were in for a tough afternoon.
The gap is closing and looks likely to continue closing just need to scrape those two wins as soon as possible.
We know this team is capable of collapsing and I am starting to get a little nervous already. | | | |
| Ten-man Baggies latest to trap QPR in low block ball-ache – Report on 19:47 - Mar 10 with 732 views | Northernr |
| Ten-man Baggies latest to trap QPR in low block ball-ache – Report on 10:49 - Mar 10 by francisbowles |
I haven't seen anyone else say it, so, from memory, my take on the Furlong red card.
Pal smashed into Furlong and another WBA player. Referee played on. Shortly after Pal on the deck and Furlong, obviously steaming, belts the ball, as hard as he can, at Pal but misses.
Next Furlong uses a bit of arm and pointed elbow in a challenge with Saito who, being much smaller, has his face at elbow height.
It was just on the edge of the screen. The linesman seemed to report what he saw to the ref and he produced red.
Furlong seemed to have lost his temper just before and that, most likely, wasn't missed by the officials. It probably all contributed to the outcome.
Anyway, great read. You make a miserable performance effort into a hilarious, whilst realistic, appraisal of our shortcomings. |
Appeal rejected. Three match ban. | | | |
| Ten-man Baggies latest to trap QPR in low block ball-ache – Report on 09:06 - Mar 11 with 522 views | daveB |
| Ten-man Baggies latest to trap QPR in low block ball-ache – Report on 09:49 - Mar 10 by OldPedro |
I thought Saito did well initially but towards the end, maybe as he tired, West Brom just blocked him off. Having said that, he must have been our most fouled player, Furlomg had a couple of goes at him before his red card and Bartley got booked for a challenge on Saito. I also thought at the game that Holgate's card was for a foul of Saito but in the report Clive says his booking was for kicking the ball away.
Agree on Cook - took too much time on the ball and then blamed others when he got charged down. |
Yeah I was just getting annoyed with him by the end and the whole team for not trying something different, he probably was the pick our lot again |  | | |
| Ten-man Baggies latest to trap QPR in low block ball-ache – Report on 12:23 - Mar 11 with 437 views | Northernr |
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| Ten-man Baggies latest to trap QPR in low block ball-ache – Report on 13:00 - Mar 11 with 409 views | joe90 |
| Ten-man Baggies latest to trap QPR in low block ball-ache – Report on 14:57 - Mar 10 by TheChef |
In the Premier League yes (although they've been found wanting this season, not helped by the Rodri injury and recruitment not being as strong).
But there's no reason why EFL teams have to adopt the same system just because it's fashionable.
It's coming to something as time goes on that I'm actually admiring Portsmouth's approach! |
Wasn't the point of us adopting this style of play to attract loan players from the PL and to develop our own to be sold on? I recall Warburton or Ferdinand (possibly both) saying that. [Post edited 11 Mar 14:23]
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| Ten-man Baggies latest to trap QPR in low block ball-ache – Report on 13:36 - Mar 11 with 365 views | Northernr |
| Ten-man Baggies latest to trap QPR in low block ball-ache – Report on 13:00 - Mar 11 by joe90 |
Wasn't the point of us adopting this style of play to attract loan players from the PL and to develop our own to be sold on? I recall Warburton or Ferdinand (possibly both) saying that. [Post edited 11 Mar 14:23]
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Yeh you’re more likely to get excellent young boys from the puppy farm (and the occasional pre-season game against their reserves, lucky you) like this than if Gareth Ainsworth is blowing his haka horn and trying to sign Dominic Gape. | | | |
| Ten-man Baggies latest to trap QPR in low block ball-ache – Report on 13:56 - Mar 11 with 335 views | R_from_afar |
Meanwhile, in Bergamo....
https://the-footballanalyst.com/atalanta-gian-piero-gasperini-tactical-analysis/
Gasperini uses some fascinating tactics, but I reckon only really intelligent footballers would be able to implement them. They would blow my mind. I mean, look at this extract:
"The attacking midfielders mainly stay high in the build-up, which means that a massive space in the middle opens up when the holding midfielders drop. Atalanta will almost be positioned in a circle, without any players in the middle. They will mostly play on the wings when progressing the ball because of their lack of central options".
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| "Things had started becoming increasingly desperate at Loftus Road but QPR have been handed a massive lifeline and the place has absolutely erupted. it's carnage. It's bedlam. It's 1-1." |
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| Ten-man Baggies latest to trap QPR in low block ball-ache – Report on 15:15 - Mar 11 with 257 views | 7374Ranger |
| Ten-man Baggies latest to trap QPR in low block ball-ache – Report on 08:50 - Mar 10 by Jimboqpr |
Thanks Clive, another fruitless trip to West Brom. I didn't watch the game, but I often think when we have no senior strikers available and a load of little 'tens' and wingers playing, why don't we try throwing Jimmy in at CF to win headers and hold it up to bring others into play? Especially against 10 men. His finish against Portsmouth also shows he does have a bit more composure in front of goal than your average RB too! |
I wanted to see Dunne pushed up into a CF role too. He could have put Ashby at RB and that would have given QPR a much better chance of scoring.
QPR created very little throughout the match and will struggle again tonight if Frey is out.
Maybe he should play Dunne as a CF tonight. He can't be any worse than Smyth or Lloyd in that role. | | | |
| Ten-man Baggies latest to trap QPR in low block ball-ache – Report on 15:26 - Mar 11 with 242 views | TheChef |
| Ten-man Baggies latest to trap QPR in low block ball-ache – Report on 15:15 - Mar 11 by 7374Ranger |
I wanted to see Dunne pushed up into a CF role too. He could have put Ashby at RB and that would have given QPR a much better chance of scoring.
QPR created very little throughout the match and will struggle again tonight if Frey is out.
Maybe he should play Dunne as a CF tonight. He can't be any worse than Smyth or Lloyd in that role. |
So a guy who has never played as a striker is suddenly the answer to our striker issues?
It's a totally different role to play compared to playing at full back! |  |
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| Ten-man Baggies latest to trap QPR in low block ball-ache – Report on 16:14 - Mar 11 with 189 views | gazza1 |
Cook complains about players not 'showing up' or making space for themselves quickly enough.....and he gets shut down and needs to rush his pass. | | | |
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