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Portsmouth Reflection 18:05 - Feb 22 with 4484 views

Really didn’t deserve anything quite a flat performance. Portsmouth pressed us very well and out worked us a bit and was 1st to the 2nd ball.

The way Portsmouth pressed us resulted in hitting lots of long balls which we didn’t hold up at all.

Poor today.

Roll on next week

Portsmouth Reflection on 07:57 - Feb 23 with 942 views

BrianMcCarthy

Portsmouth Reflection on 07:55 - Feb 23 by NewYorkRanger
Is there an age limit for posting on here? Seems like some very young kids have somehow hacked their dads account and decided to post

Should I have used swear words?

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Portsmouth Reflection on 08:04 - Feb 23 with 924 views

stevec

Think we can be a bit like Corporal Jones Fuzzi Wuzzi’s.

Appreciate it could unsettle us all round but wonder if we should set up for away games without the three behind the solitary forward. It works at home but seems to put us on the back foot away.

Could see us having a home side not unlike what we have at present but an away side with 4-5 different personnel and a set up with only 3 outfield playing in same position home and away.
We have a number of horses for courses players in this squad.

Portsmouth Reflection on 08:31 - Feb 23 with 792 views

NewYorkRanger

Mine was intended as a general comment on the thread rather than a direct reply to yours. I know it’s all about opinions and we’re all entitled etc, but some of the stuff on here is laughable

Glory hunter, me

Portsmouth Reflection on 08:32 - Feb 23 with 784 views

BrianMcCarthy

Portsmouth Reflection on 08:31 - Feb 23 by NewYorkRanger
Mine was intended as a general comment on the thread rather than a direct reply to yours. I know it’s all about opinions and we’re all entitled etc, but some of the stuff on here is laughable

No bother, NY. I guessed as much.

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Portsmouth Reflection on 08:38 - Feb 23 with 742 views

Gus_iom

Portsmouth Reflection on 07:57 - Feb 23 by BrianMcCarthy
Should I have used swear words?

Yes, I think you should use swear words. All the time.
(In my bid to become the most popular poster on LFW, if i can get McCarthy banned, I'll move up one place to 237th. My final goal is not far off, relatively).

Portsmouth Reflection on 08:42 - Feb 23 with 731 views

BrianMcCarthy

Portsmouth Reflection on 08:38 - Feb 23 by Gus_iom
Yes, I think you should use swear words. All the time. (In my bid to become the most popular poster on LFW, if i can get McCarthy banned, I'll move up one place to 237th. My final goal is not far off, relatively).

To blazes with you!
You bounder!

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Portsmouth Reflection on 08:44 - Feb 23 with 721 views

Watford_Ranger

Portsmouth Reflection on 08:04 - Feb 23 by stevec

I think perhaps Marti has got either a tad overconfident about the ability of this team or took the view we have to go on a great run to get playoffs so took a risk which backfired.

Here, at Millwall, at Derby etc. particularly you simply have to earn the right to play. Win close to your share of the battles, work as hard as them, second balls etc. and the quality of Chair and Saito and then Yang ought to win you the game or certainly guarantee a point. It’s not sexy but Championship football rarely is. The first goal is clearly a great finish but the multiple errors to get them into that position would have shamed a Sunday league side. The second is a farce. They should have had another in that early part of the second half. Portsmouth were excellent at the basics and extremely limited beyond that but without the first bit you aren’t winning many games hence the two we’ve lost to them. Bishop offered a presence Frey didn’t, Hayden smashed people and we were happy to let a young ref have a lovely day of it again while he did so, Dozzell has found his niche trying to kick the ball towards the corner flag. Basics, basics, basics and a clear game plan even if a bit crude but beats the no plan at all we appeared to not have.

Even if you win those battles, which we didn’t, who of Field and Varane is going to find the pass? Thought the two of them were horrific. Chair did what Chair often does and dropped deeper and deeper to the point he was having no meaningful impact to try and compensate. Not his fault IMO.

Cook, much as I love him, seems to be getting a month older every week. I hope once any now even slimmer hope of playoffs is gone, most likely with eight or nine games left, we use the time to really think about who we need next season. Maybe he’ll come good again and I really do rate the bloke but it’s a concern more for next year now than this.

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Portsmouth Reflection on 09:04 - Feb 23 with 645 views

Gus_iom

Portsmouth Reflection on 08:42 - Feb 23 by BrianMcCarthy
To blazes with you! You bounder!

Damn! He saw through my cunning ruse.

What a cun....

Portsmouth Reflection on 09:18 - Feb 23 with 613 views

wortonr

Portsmouth Reflection on 09:04 - Feb 23 by Gus_iom
Damn! He saw through my cunning ruse. What a cun....

Feel I’ve got to comment on the Conspiracy theory notion. What a load of old rollocks…so a nice one to join the pantheon of drivel some out there love to sign up to. Cup final replay … brilliant performance, we played out of our skins but didn’t have much luck. The other examples quoted all fit the “ wasn’t our day” category. It’s obvious when one team believe it’s all or nothing on a game and the other has their towels ready, there’s every chance the desperate team out perform. That’s what happened yesterday.
My one fear about what’s left of the season? We’ve got our holiday brochures out already. There were some worrying signs of that yesterday and in some of the vibes from the club.

Portsmouth Reflection on 09:30 - Feb 23 with 563 views

gazza1

There were quite a few 'very average' performances yesterday.....perhaps 6 or 7 of them and that is why we did not pick up anything from the game.

Portsmouth Reflection on 09:36 - Feb 23 with 535 views

Gus_iom

Portsmouth Reflection on 09:18 - Feb 23 by wortonr

It's not a conspiracy mate, I'm gunning for McCarthy.

Portsmouth Reflection on 09:59 - Feb 23 with 448 views

Rsole

Portsmouth Reflection on 09:18 - Feb 23 by wortonr

I think some of the players were intimidated rather than thinking about the beach.

Marti admitted he picked Ballerina Smyth over Yang for this reason. If that was the logic, then you would have to ask why not pick Tofu Tofu Colbackie too then, because he revels in that type of game - probably the best we have at it.

Those possessed by devils, try and keep them under control a bit, can't you ?

Portsmouth Reflection on 10:00 - Feb 23 with 436 views

PlanetHonneywood

Jist seen the goals and their second emmanates from the Pepesque 'build from the back/possession' fixation that has placed a greater emphasis on defenders, and keepers, to be ballers.

Interesting article on the Beeb about Pep's tactics being bettered, by more direct play. I'm not advocating for the days of Charlie Hughes, but sometimes your defenders just need to welly the fecker and stop faffing around like a fairy!

https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/articles/c20l7lw3ypzo

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Portsmouth Reflection on 11:15 - Feb 23 with 313 views

baz_qpr

I'm not sure they were intimidated, what I am sure is that a number (and Varane and Frey in particular) could not cope with the pace (ping pong nature) of the game and were struggling to be in the right place at the right time and in Varane's case kept getting caught by the speed of there press.

I think its also fair to say that Cook has been in quite poor form since his return, and the second goal which came from his poor pass, has been coming for the last few weeks as he has gotten away with some terrible errors. I dont buy this is an age thing, its a form thing but if it continues then Marti needs to consider brining Morrison back in.

Portsmouth Reflection on 11:46 - Feb 23 with 241 views

charmr

That pep article is a great read from the bbc .

Marti advocating a positional pep style game in the independent interview.

We have all seen thousands of players in the hoops. This lot are above and below average players and for Marti to get a tune out of them is outstanding inmo. Good players are consistent, average ones not so much.

Copyright G Francis for allowing the word consistent.

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Portsmouth Reflection on 11:53 - Feb 23 with 203 views

PunteR

Portsmouth Reflection on 21:36 - Feb 22 by stainrods_elbow

It wouldn't surprise me either - people can say what they like, but, for me, two or three games this season (cf. Leicester and Swansea), including this one, have smelt as fishy as the the 2003 Playoff Final, the 1986 Milk Cup Final and the 1982 FA Cup Final Replay. The team could well be under instruction from the owners to stay in the division but not to have a tilt at the playoffs. We had a fantastic opportunity to continue to do the latter today, buoyed by another rousing away support, and didn't turn up. It's inexcusable!

"The team could well be under instruction from the owners to stay in the division but not to have a tilt at the playoffs."

So the owners , who throw £2 million a month to keep the club going, has told/paid the players to not get promoted to the prem and receive £100 million. ?

That seems logical.

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Portsmouth Reflection on 11:58 - Feb 23 with 182 views

ThGrimRanger

time is right now for QPR to start making decisions with an eye on next season. there's no longer any point playing loanees and those in their final year ahead of others who will be here next season.

I'm not saying don't play Edwards, Dunne, Yang, Cook but we should start to taper them out. Marti needs to use the remaining games to make sure we start next season better than we started this one.

TheGrimRanger

Portsmouth Reflection on 12:01 - Feb 23 with 167 views

PunteR

Portsmouth Reflection on 11:58 - Feb 23 by ThGrimRanger
time is right now for QPR to start making decisions with an eye on next season. there's no longer any point playing loanees and those in their final year ahead of others who will be here next season. I'm not saying don't play Edwards, Dunne, Yang, Cook but we should start to taper them out. Marti needs to use the remaining games to make sure we start next season better than we started this one.

Could we still mathematically get relegated? If so, i wouldn't start taking our best players out of the game just yet.. We should be trying to finish as far up the division as possible.

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Portsmouth Reflection on 12:06 - Feb 23 with 142 views

davman

Portsmouth Reflection on 11:15 - Feb 23 by baz_qpr

Even further reflection after the alcohol has dissipated from my system...

We don't really like it up us still, do we? We remain poor against the high press particularly when you take Frey and Dunne out of the equation as an out ball, which is what Pompey did really effectively yesterday.

Teams that do that well (Sheff W and Millwall) as well as Pompey seem to have the hex on us.

Don't get me wrong, we physically competed with them yesterday in the first half, but they did not let us play our game and we ended up trying to play them at theirs with obvious consequences. The first goal was quality, but boy did our heads drop after that - Cook certainly to blame for the second.

All a bit "meh" now as we are not going up nor down...

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Portsmouth Reflection on 12:07 - Feb 23 with 135 views

LazyFan

The team looked tired to me.

There are two reasons why we lost that game, a game we should never have lost, as Pompy are a poor side.

1. Beating the press:
Pompy tactically pressed QPR's right-hand side, and it seemed QPR only wanted to or felt they could only beat the press on the right. So, they did not know how to get out and build when that was closed off. That's why QPR created little of anything, as they could not build out from the back while trying to play out from the back, but only on the right-hand side. And it seems they could not play it out on the left, which made it easier for Pompy and took Saito and Chair out of the game. When those two are nullified, you are relying on Smyth, and he was as follows.

2. Run, Run, Run:
Some players were leggy, to say the least. Dunne was leggy, and I am not talking about pace; he struggled to run back at times. Varane was poor in passing but also did not cover the pitch. Field was on his own in the middle. Smyth did not run back enough either to help Dunne.
Dunne, Smyth, Field and, of course, Varane, those four players did not get up and down the pitch enough. They had the leggy Madsen's about them. It was a bit harsh on Field, but Marti saw it too and subbed him.

This nullified Frey totally, as the middle was not there to draw defenders from him or for Frey to lay it off to the wingers (that's why the midfielders have to get up and down the pitch a lot to draw the defenders off the wingers so, Frey has an easy layoff).

The return of Charity Park Rangers ... again.

Marti needs to coach the team to get out of the press on the left and then the middle. Not to depend totally on the right hand side.

And then he needs to rest some people and freshen up the legs in the middle if they are feeling it. Morgan starts instead of Field if he's tired (which is totally understandable). Then after a couple of games, its Varane or Colback who gets dropped and Field can come back in with Morgan.

Smyth needs to be told to run back and defend like he did for most of the season. And Varane needs to be told to keep the pass simple and to do more support runs in the last third rather than hanging around the back four all the time (some of the time yes, all of the time no). Dunne could have a rest too, with Edwards at RB and Morrison coming in.

zzzzzzzzzz

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