| Modern stats and terminology 11:28 - Feb 12 with 3962 views | GaryBannister86 |
Being the wrong side of 50 I can't stand any of it and have absolutely no interest in
> duels (tackling, in my day)
> xG (sitters, gilt-edged chances, half chances)
> low block (parking the bus)
> high press (closing down)
> expected saves (keeping 'em out)
> completed passes (finding your man)
and I have probably shown that by misunderstanding the above.
But it has got me wondering, what would have some of our fab players and teams of the 80s and 90s looked like on a modern stats basis?
I mean. what sort of xG would Gerry's side in its pomp have racked up? Always remember that game against Liverpool at home where we absolutely battered them, couldn't score and Rosenthal stole it in the last second?
What would Super Ray's season pass completion rate have been? Assists?
What would Macca's "duels" have looked like?
Off the scale, surely.
Or, on the other hand, Tony Roberts' expected saves, Steve Yates duels, etc etc.
Can't AI go over the old matches? |  | | |  |
| Modern stats and terminology on 03:14 - Feb 16 with 858 views | dixiedean |
My 2 personal hates are “playing the quarterback role “ . Fck off there’s no such thing in this game. That is silly yank football. It’s called a playmaker in proper football, or schemer to be properly retro, eg Don Masson . And defenders “ putting their bodies on the line “. No, they’re blocking a shot, which is what defenders do . Soldiers put their bodies on the line by going where they might get killed. It’s not the fking Somme it’s a piece of manicured grass with a football on it FFS . There are no snipers in the TV gantry . Rant over. |  | | |
| Modern stats and terminology on 14:12 - Feb 16 with 667 views | DannyPaddox |
Not sure when it came in but the phrase that gets me is the one along the lines of … and Queens Park Rangers are really asking questions of Derby County now. It’s as if the football match has developed a surreptitious pub quiz along with the actual match. The players jostle waiting for a corner, Michi Frey asks the Derby centre-back “name a London tube station containing all the vowels but only once?” Jimmy Dunne on the edge of the 6 yard box with his arm across a Derby player “which country has the youngest infant mortality rate?” Then Steve Cook goes over the top with a “Who scored the winner in the 2014 Championship play off at Wembley … and for a bonus point what was the goal officially timed at?” The Derby players in earshot look visibly hurt. The ref blows his whistle, delays the corner and wags his finger at Cook admonishingly, “Thats the 6th time you’ve asked that one son. Cut it out. Once more and it’s a yellow” Then blows for the kick to be taken. The questions continue. |  | | |
| Modern stats and terminology on 14:35 - Feb 16 with 615 views | Wilkinswatercarrier |
Being near the wrong side of 50 I was also very dismissive of stats in the modern probably because I didn't understand the terminology.
However, having had a crash cause from my son I have been converted.
It does work if you allow it to work for the whole season. | | | |
| Modern stats and terminology on 15:52 - Feb 16 with 542 views | connell10 |
| Modern stats and terminology on 15:56 - Feb 12 by RBlock |
I disagree with a lot of what you're saying - terminology and language evolves, along with the game, and a lot of the phrases you mention are a bit different or a more precise way of describing and analysing the game. Nothing worth getting that worked up about.
But you've raised a really interesting point about using AI to go over old footage of games to analyse and draw out statistics from it, to compare players from previous eras with modern football. Would be fascinating to see how the game has changed and is played differently now. |
Nah mate it's bollocks,for statos to cream over as they sit their in there Duffy coats pushing their greasy locks away from their horn rinmed spectacles!! We used to call them train spotters or for a better words Wan kers! |  |
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| Modern stats and terminology on 15:55 - Feb 16 with 537 views | R_from_afar |
| Modern stats and terminology on 03:14 - Feb 16 by dixiedean |
My 2 personal hates are “playing the quarterback role “ . Fck off there’s no such thing in this game. That is silly yank football. It’s called a playmaker in proper football, or schemer to be properly retro, eg Don Masson . And defenders “ putting their bodies on the line “. No, they’re blocking a shot, which is what defenders do . Soldiers put their bodies on the line by going where they might get killed. It’s not the fking Somme it’s a piece of manicured grass with a football on it FFS . There are no snipers in the TV gantry . Rant over. |
"Playing the quarterback role".
Oh my, that one really does my head in 
Then there's all this modern focus on "turnovers". You what? Do they come with custard? Clotted cream? |  |
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| Modern stats and terminology on 21:31 - Feb 16 with 391 views | Spaceman_P |
I'm 40 this year and personally I can't stand... "he needs to be an 8", he's ideal for a 10.... hes a great 5 etc.
Thats only really come about in the last 5 years
Whats wrong with striker, midfielder winger etc.
I mean if numbers are to go by we need a new 24 |  | | |
| Modern stats and terminology on 06:10 - Feb 17 with 276 views | dmm |
Whereas I heartily agree with the sentiments in this thread, we all know our lovely manager is fond of many of these loathsome terms. |  | | |
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