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Charlie Kelman’s Leyton Orient 12:00 - Feb 8 with 10890 viewsDannyPaddox

Up against Man City in the FFS that was offside FA Cup. I prepare to stand corrected but I think Charlie is still our player but as I take as much interest in modern football players contracts and transfers as I do in mobile phone contracts I could be wrong. Either way seems like a good lad and having a decent season with a club I like so up the O’s!

Up against a central defender today in Ruben Dias who’s worth approx £75 mil … would love to see Charlie meg him.
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Charlie Kelman’s Leyton Orient on 14:05 - Feb 8 with 3943 viewsDannyPaddox

Charlie Kelman’s Leyton Orient on 14:03 - Feb 8 by Paddyhoops

2.1 down but the legend that is Dom Ball comes on.


85th minute game changer for sure
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Charlie Kelman’s Leyton Orient on 14:24 - Feb 8 with 3763 viewsnumptydumpty

Charlie Kelman’s Leyton Orient on 14:05 - Feb 8 by DannyPaddox

85th minute game changer for sure


It's easy from our views of seeing Charlie Kelman in a Rangers shirt to write home off as League One Standard.

He has seemed to have done well in terms of goals and assists for Orient. My first time watching him this season, did a very decent job for the O's, and looked a threat and obviously up against a top quality defence.

Having seen him play today, and with his stats also, i would hope we offer him, a one year contract with the option for a other year extension.

If he performs, brilliant and if he doesn't perform, based on this seasons evidence, it would not be too difficult to get him a decent league one loan again, so would not require a massive risk to keep him on.

Well done Charlie.

Was impressed today.
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Charlie Kelman’s Leyton Orient on 14:26 - Feb 8 with 3787 viewsbosh67

Kelman was very impressive today.

Never knowingly right.
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Charlie Kelman’s Leyton Orient on 14:33 - Feb 8 with 3669 viewsnumptydumpty

Charlie Kelman’s Leyton Orient on 14:26 - Feb 8 by bosh67

Kelman was very impressive today.


He was Bosh absolutely.

Wasn't expecting him to perform so highly.

Most definitely more than just a goal threat. Very intelligent player on today's match.

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Charlie Kelman’s Leyton Orient on 14:53 - Feb 8 with 3592 viewsWilkinswatercarrier

Charlie Kelman’s Leyton Orient on 14:33 - Feb 8 by numptydumpty

He was Bosh absolutely.

Wasn't expecting him to perform so highly.

Most definitely more than just a goal threat. Very intelligent player on today's match.


Not got the physical strength of Frey. Not got the pace of Lloydd. Not got the technical ability of Kolli.

But, as you pointed out, a very intelligent player. I was really impressed with what he did today.

Just maybe..........
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Charlie Kelman’s Leyton Orient on 15:26 - Feb 8 with 3476 viewsfrancisbowles

Charlie Kelman’s Leyton Orient on 14:53 - Feb 8 by Wilkinswatercarrier

Not got the physical strength of Frey. Not got the pace of Lloydd. Not got the technical ability of Kolli.

But, as you pointed out, a very intelligent player. I was really impressed with what he did today.

Just maybe..........


Take up the option, that I presume we have, see how he goes in pre season and early season and make a decision to offer an extension or sell.
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Charlie Kelman’s Leyton Orient on 16:18 - Feb 8 with 3279 viewsdmm

Charlie Kelman’s Leyton Orient on 15:26 - Feb 8 by francisbowles

Take up the option, that I presume we have, see how he goes in pre season and early season and make a decision to offer an extension or sell.


I might be wrong but I don't think we have an option on Kelman's contract.
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Charlie Kelman’s Leyton Orient on 19:03 - Feb 8 with 2935 viewsEsox_Lucius

Ethan Laird having a cracking game against Newcastle now.

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Charlie Kelman’s Leyton Orient on 19:32 - Feb 8 with 2836 viewsdaveB

Kelman played really well, never really had a chance for us up front, always played out wide
Looks like he's bulked up a bit
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Charlie Kelman’s Leyton Orient on 22:06 - Feb 8 with 2529 viewsconnell10

Charlie Kelman’s Leyton Orient on 19:32 - Feb 8 by daveB

Kelman played really well, never really had a chance for us up front, always played out wide
Looks like he's bulked up a bit


I think there is a player in there definitely.

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Charlie Kelman’s Leyton Orient on 23:31 - Feb 8 with 2320 viewsjtuck

Charlie Kelman’s Leyton Orient on 19:03 - Feb 8 by Esox_Lucius

Ethan Laird having a cracking game against Newcastle now.


Good for him, but would never have him back at Rangers. Phoned in a high number of games for us, basically guilty of wage theft. The polar opposite of Dom Ball.

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Charlie Kelman’s Leyton Orient on 02:27 - Feb 9 with 2124 viewsPlanetHonneywood

Charlie Kelman’s Leyton Orient on 19:32 - Feb 8 by daveB

Kelman played really well, never really had a chance for us up front, always played out wide
Looks like he's bulked up a bit


Yeah, but but it was only in the third tier against a poor relegation threatened side! Let's see what he does against Brum, Wycombe, or Hollywood before we're taking up extensions.

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Charlie Kelman’s Leyton Orient on 06:47 - Feb 9 with 1996 viewskernowhoop

Not quite on topic (Kelman) - sorry. But, the FA Cup 4th Round has been turned into a long weekend football festival, largely for TV. Although we are not involved (the club has some sort of long-standing agreement with the FA, not to participate in the competition beyond January), there is something good about this mini festival. If you doubt it from what you have seen so far, then ask Plymouth Argyle. Those that live in the south-west will know what a buzz there is around today's match, which apparently will have a global TV audience. Will non-PL clubs be having a re-think about how they approach the competition in future?
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Charlie Kelman’s Leyton Orient on 07:44 - Feb 9 with 1897 viewsGloucs_R

Charlie Kelman’s Leyton Orient on 23:31 - Feb 8 by jtuck

Good for him, but would never have him back at Rangers. Phoned in a high number of games for us, basically guilty of wage theft. The polar opposite of Dom Ball.


Harsh. Players mature at different and clearly a couple of years in the lower leagues has done him good.

I would bring him back next season. Looked better than Celar! Alfie would benefit going the other way for 12 months.

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Charlie Kelman’s Leyton Orient on 07:56 - Feb 9 with 1854 viewsGus_iom

Charlie Kelman’s Leyton Orient on 07:44 - Feb 9 by Gloucs_R

Harsh. Players mature at different and clearly a couple of years in the lower leagues has done him good.

I would bring him back next season. Looked better than Celar! Alfie would benefit going the other way for 12 months.


You're talking ar cross purposes mate - the post you quoted was about Ethan Laird, and is 100% right imho
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Charlie Kelman’s Leyton Orient on 08:48 - Feb 9 with 1716 viewsgazza1

Kelman was decent today - well done to him.

It is only one game though, seen him play for us many times and he has never played that well. It is not just about one game it is about over the season.
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Charlie Kelman’s Leyton Orient on 08:59 - Feb 9 with 1689 viewseastside_r

Charlie Kelman’s Leyton Orient on 08:48 - Feb 9 by gazza1

Kelman was decent today - well done to him.

It is only one game though, seen him play for us many times and he has never played that well. It is not just about one game it is about over the season.
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My mate who is a LO ST holder, says he is much improved this season from when they had him before in 2022-23.

The stats also seem to bear this out.
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Charlie Kelman’s Leyton Orient on 10:09 - Feb 9 with 1545 viewsGloucs_R

Charlie Kelman’s Leyton Orient on 07:56 - Feb 9 by Gus_iom

You're talking ar cross purposes mate - the post you quoted was about Ethan Laird, and is 100% right imho


Thanks. Yep, I responded to the wrong post.

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Charlie Kelman’s Leyton Orient on 10:27 - Feb 9 with 1502 viewsfrancisbowles

Charlie Kelman’s Leyton Orient on 16:18 - Feb 8 by dmm

I might be wrong but I don't think we have an option on Kelman's contract.


I'm not sure either but do we ever offer a contract without an option? I can't see much logic in giving a player a year's deal only to then loan him to another club and, irrespective of how he performs, he can talk to other clubs in January and leave in July for free.

Unless, it was a belt and braces approach. We signed him before we knew what other strikers were available and knew we could recall him in January, if we had an injury crisis with the forwards.

I would imagine that there are some costs that are not being covered by Orient and that with our tight control on expense the above rational would be unlikely. Therefore I assume we have an option.
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Charlie Kelman’s Leyton Orient on 10:49 - Feb 9 with 1431 viewsDannyPaddox

Charlie Kelman’s Leyton Orient on 08:59 - Feb 9 by eastside_r

My mate who is a LO ST holder, says he is much improved this season from when they had him before in 2022-23.

The stats also seem to bear this out.




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Charlie Kelman’s Leyton Orient on 12:37 - Feb 9 with 1191 viewseastside_r

Charlie Kelman’s Leyton Orient on 10:27 - Feb 9 by francisbowles

I'm not sure either but do we ever offer a contract without an option? I can't see much logic in giving a player a year's deal only to then loan him to another club and, irrespective of how he performs, he can talk to other clubs in January and leave in July for free.

Unless, it was a belt and braces approach. We signed him before we knew what other strikers were available and knew we could recall him in January, if we had an injury crisis with the forwards.

I would imagine that there are some costs that are not being covered by Orient and that with our tight control on expense the above rational would be unlikely. Therefore I assume we have an option.


Agree with this.

What would be the point of taking up a single year option and then loaning him out for the duration.

Just because that’s crazy, doesn’t mean it isn’t exactly what we’ve done.

My LO mate thinks he’s OOC this summer.
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Charlie Kelman’s Leyton Orient on 13:10 - Feb 9 with 1062 viewsdmm

Charlie Kelman’s Leyton Orient on 10:27 - Feb 9 by francisbowles

I'm not sure either but do we ever offer a contract without an option? I can't see much logic in giving a player a year's deal only to then loan him to another club and, irrespective of how he performs, he can talk to other clubs in January and leave in July for free.

Unless, it was a belt and braces approach. We signed him before we knew what other strikers were available and knew we could recall him in January, if we had an injury crisis with the forwards.

I would imagine that there are some costs that are not being covered by Orient and that with our tight control on expense the above rational would be unlikely. Therefore I assume we have an option.


A contract without an option used to be more common than otherwise. In these days of Nourry's cards to the chest communications policy, I suppose we're all guessing what's what, which I find very irritating.
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Charlie Kelman’s Leyton Orient on 13:57 - Feb 9 with 925 viewsGus_iom

Charlie Kelman’s Leyton Orient on 10:09 - Feb 9 by Gloucs_R

Thanks. Yep, I responded to the wrong post.


I still got down voted, mind 😆
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Charlie Kelman’s Leyton Orient on 14:00 - Feb 9 with 918 viewsGus_iom

Charlie Kelman’s Leyton Orient on 12:37 - Feb 9 by eastside_r

Agree with this.

What would be the point of taking up a single year option and then loaning him out for the duration.

Just because that’s crazy, doesn’t mean it isn’t exactly what we’ve done.

My LO mate thinks he’s OOC this summer.
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Maybe in case they couldn't get anyone else in?
I don't get it, for sure.
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Charlie Kelman’s Leyton Orient on 14:22 - Feb 9 with 854 viewsngbqpr

Jan 31 2024 offish announced he'd "extended his contract" (no further details natch) and was off to Wigan for remainder of season.

O's loan announced June 29.

That's all I can find...

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