| Out of contract (again) 16:33 - Feb 5 with 3664 views | Wilkinswatercarrier |
I was just thinking of the players out of contract in the coming summer:
Cook
Fox
Paal
Colback
Anderson
Frey
Dunne (who knows)
Plus, the loans going back Edwards 😪 , Yang, and Saito (who knows).
Worryingly, all of them bar Anderson played some part last night.
That is a lot of experience going at one time, and our defence will be decimated.
There is nothing defensively in DS pushing through, so it looks a busy summer coming up wheeling and a dealing. [Post edited 5 Feb 21:37]
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| Out of contract (again) on 16:47 - Feb 5 with 2612 views | Rangersw12 |
I would 100% keep
Cook
Dunne
Saito
Still not sure on Paal , he's ever present which is a bonus but surely there must be someone better out there | | | |
| Out of contract (again) on 16:48 - Feb 5 with 2610 views | PlanetHonneywood |
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| Out of contract (again) on 17:06 - Feb 5 with 2502 views | simmo |
Fox - Nope
Colback - Take Option
Andersen - No
Paal - Extend to sell / leave if no deal
Dunne- Extend as a priority
Cook is the big ? for me... By all accounts he's our biggest earner, by some margin compared to most others, and he's showing signs of wear and tear - especially since returning from his injury. We have also done well to bring in Morrison as a natural successor, so at some point you're blocking his progress by extending the contract of a 33/34 year old.
I think it's Cooks experience, leadership and nous that we'll miss most if he leaves, but that's a big salary if you're not also one of our best players / defenders... Ultimately we have time to decide and see how he goes for the next few months to make a decision in the summer, but if we don't extend we have to focus on bringing in a few more savvy/older players to compliment the youth focus. This league demands it. |  |
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| Out of contract (again) on 17:57 - Feb 5 with 2365 views | derbyhoop |
We've tended to recruit youngsters, both in the Summer and January. We need to retain/recruit some experience to balance the team.
For that reason, I'd want to keep Cook, provided its a 1 year deal(+ 1 Yr option?) on reduced wages,i.e. more in line with our average. The rest, other than Dunne, can go. [Post edited 5 Feb 17:58]
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| Out of contract (again) on 18:00 - Feb 5 with 2336 views | dannyblue |
Colback will be 36 for most of next season and struggles to be available to play now. Can’t renew that. It’s not like he’s super Ray. |  | | |
| Out of contract (again) on 18:39 - Feb 5 with 2211 views | Match82 |
| Out of contract (again) on 17:06 - Feb 5 by simmo |
Fox - Nope
Colback - Take Option
Andersen - No
Paal - Extend to sell / leave if no deal
Dunne- Extend as a priority
Cook is the big ? for me... By all accounts he's our biggest earner, by some margin compared to most others, and he's showing signs of wear and tear - especially since returning from his injury. We have also done well to bring in Morrison as a natural successor, so at some point you're blocking his progress by extending the contract of a 33/34 year old.
I think it's Cooks experience, leadership and nous that we'll miss most if he leaves, but that's a big salary if you're not also one of our best players / defenders... Ultimately we have time to decide and see how he goes for the next few months to make a decision in the summer, but if we don't extend we have to focus on bringing in a few more savvy/older players to compliment the youth focus. This league demands it. |
Yeah, Cook is a tough one, especially if that contract is high. Theoretically he's blocking Morrison, but that's only really true if you believe JCS is going to be fit to play a majority of the games... |  | | |
| Out of contract (again) on 18:47 - Feb 5 with 2165 views | OxfordHoops |
Dunne definitely if we can, and Cook. Think Vale and the young Brazilian are replacements for Paal, who’s should go with Colback. Fox is a strange one, he’s a great squad player to have, given he can play a couple of roles? Saito is a free agent in the summer, I think, so if possible we should definitely sign him! | | | |
| Out of contract (again) on 19:29 - Feb 5 with 2001 views | stainrods_elbow |
| Out of contract (again) on 18:00 - Feb 5 by dannyblue |
Colback will be 36 for most of next season and struggles to be available to play now. Can’t renew that. It’s not like he’s super Ray. |
I tedn to agree, though I gather the team's stats when he was involved were great last season. However, we now have a stronger and more cohesive squad, with more competition for places, so his race may well be run. When the club has an option, does this mean they can reserve the right to vary the terms of the player's original deal? In Colback's case, I'd offer him a fair basic with a heavily weighted appearance bonus, given his injury record. |  |
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| Out of contract (again) on 22:36 - Feb 5 with 1757 views | ingeminate |
Try to keep
Frey
Dunne
50/50
Paal
Fox
Don’t extend
Cook - age/wage
Colback
Anderson
Try and buy
Saito
Edwards |  |
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| Out of contract (again) on 22:53 - Feb 5 with 1704 views | HAYESBOY |
I would keep the following:
Paal - IMO a great left back at this level.
Cook - A years ext
Dunne - No brainer
Frey - Again a years ext maybe with an option.
Saito - Make every effort to sign in the summer.
No to Andersen.
No to Colback is 35, and with the emergence of Morgan we have cover. |  |
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| Out of contract (again) on 22:59 - Feb 5 with 1669 views | bosh67 |
Apparently we have a pre contract in place with 18 year old midfielder Jaylan Pearman so I guess the strategy of bringing in younger players next season will continue.
Of the senior players, Cook absolutely because he is a leader and has a good few seasons in the tank, Dunne obviously and I like Frey a lot at this level. I like Colback but it may be a season too far, but he is a class player.
I still think we have a deal in place with Saito from what I remember. He is a real breakthrough player. |  |
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| Out of contract (again) on 23:44 - Feb 5 with 1574 views | Lblock |
Cook - I’d keep him on a reduced wage with appearances and win bonuses but obviously he’d need to accept that. We certainly need experienced leadership…. Might he do coaching here as well?
Fox - thanks and so long. A decent servant but run his race
Paal - I like him; many don’t. Sadly I think his wish is to return to the land of clogs n cheese so if he’s not committed then see ya
Colback - it’s a no from me. Playing minutes don’t justify outlay
Anderson - I’d of jettisoned in January. Seems a lovely fella but he’s shot and was never suited to 40 odd games at this level. Thanks for January to April 2024 but off you go.
Frey - absolutely sign a new deal. People hung up on his lack of pace (I’m one who always says pace is vital) but I love his attitude, presence and his goal ratio!!
Dunne - stay!!! Can’t add anymore to what 26 pages have said
Edwards - part ex for a rarely used Madsen and Celar?? The lad is silky with the ball, reads the game so well and can pass it well. I’m not sure he’ll ever score from a corner but I’ll keep backing him. Way out of our price range sadly
Saito - mmmmmmm… I had big reservations but I’m really liking the little fella at the moment. A bit lightweight but he’s game as a bagel, fast and fun to watch. Keep!!
Yang - I think Spurs will let him stay next season (unless we’re in same Division). Not seen enough but the few mins he’s played so far looks a player. It’s a yes from me if a season long loan available |  |
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| Out of contract (again) on 07:45 - Feb 6 with 1423 views | Lancashirehoop |
I think we'll need a defensive rebuild next season especially if Dunne goes and Edwards goes back to Soton.
Agree that Cook and Fox are well the wrong side of 30 but agree to keep Cook if we can for another year. It would be a great coup if we could get Dunne to stay. I think he's playing at his level and moving to another Championship club or potentially lower prem outfit might not be any better for him other than financially.
Asssuming Morrison comes through and the new Brazilian is the next Roberto Carlos, we'll probably need a couple of quality inbounds to strengthen and maybe push for a tilt at promotion. Hopefully Morgan and Kolli will continue to develop and with Dembele back, going forward I think we're ok. Looking forward to next season already! |  |
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| Out of contract (again) on 08:14 - Feb 6 with 1368 views | PlanetHonneywood |
Colbeck - age, injury, and discipline. Would need a younger, but older head to replace.
Cook - always rated him. He's doing for us what Dunne, Nelson, Hill, and a history of buying wizened old pros at the end of their careers have done for us. So, yes.
Right Said Frey - yes.
Edwards - no chance, he'll be returning to Soton.
Andersen - no.
Dunne - I think will go.
Saito/Fox - not seen enough. | |
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| Out of contract (again) on 08:58 - Feb 6 with 1310 views | daveB |
I'm pretty sure Cook and Colback have one more year anyway |  | | |
| Out of contract (again) on 08:59 - Feb 6 with 1306 views | Watford_Ranger |
I’ve absolutely no idea about the financial fair play (whatever the call it now) situation but that’ll be the determining factor I imagine. Cook is hardly ancient but if it’s a choice of giving Cook the same money for another year or taking our chances on investing that elsewhere I’m probably choosing the latter.
Same for Colback who is a bit older and not first choice.
I know Paal is popular but I’ve never been a fan tbh. Maybe I have a blind spot there but I just don’t rate the bloke and think we can do better. Perhaps Vale is lined up for that spot. Larkeche still alive?
Has anyone mentioned the LFW obligatory pay as you play contract yet? | | | |
| Out of contract (again) on 09:11 - Feb 6 with 1267 views | kernowhoop |
Should we not be making clear to the world that Edwards is useless? | | | |
| Out of contract (again) on 09:12 - Feb 6 with 1262 views | sdm1508 |
Paal is frustrating. Sometimes he will do a great piece of play to get by someone and then mucks up the five yard pass. When he first came in he looked great. I remember people saying how good he was in the air etc. These days I often think he is out of position and as an attack threat could do more and have better delivery.
It might be one of those situations though, that once he is gone, we realise he wasn't half bad.
I think Andersen is done I'm afraid. Last season some great stuff but now looks like he is running through treacle
Frey I think needs to stay but depends on what wages he is on. If we get a new striker in the summer and the wages Frey is on almost commands that he should start then you might have to let him go, although his effort and eye for a goal is good
Colback and cook I would keep, just for their experience. Cook can still do a job. He is looking a bit rusty since coming back but that's to be expected and Colback always useful coming off the bench. Same with Fox. He will have 3 or 4 good games and then a stinker, which is why he isn't a guaranteed first teamer | | | |
| Out of contract (again) on 10:15 - Feb 6 with 1156 views | TK1 |
The only footballer whose wages I have ever known are Frey's through a very weird set of coincidences that will never be repeated, and I will never know anybody else's wage: if you knew how much his weekly wage in season two is, you would not be saying renew. I think we shake hands, thank him for his eight (?) goals he scored in 24/25, each one it's literal weight in gold, and try and find someone five years younger and half (at least) as expensive.
I'm sure the dressing room knows his wage (and Cook's, and Jesus, imagine Colback's given his availability) and we should perhaps factor that into what Dunne might expect from his next contract. All this explains mainly hiring young players at start of their career rather than experienced pros on final contracts, too... | | | |
| Out of contract (again) on 11:13 - Feb 6 with 1035 views | dmm |
| Out of contract (again) on 22:59 - Feb 5 by bosh67 |
Apparently we have a pre contract in place with 18 year old midfielder Jaylan Pearman so I guess the strategy of bringing in younger players next season will continue.
Of the senior players, Cook absolutely because he is a leader and has a good few seasons in the tank, Dunne obviously and I like Frey a lot at this level. I like Colback but it may be a season too far, but he is a class player.
I still think we have a deal in place with Saito from what I remember. He is a real breakthrough player. |
Jaylan Pearman will be one for the development squad and not the senior squad. |  | | |
| Out of contract (again) on 11:14 - Feb 6 with 1032 views | dmm |
| Out of contract (again) on 08:58 - Feb 6 by daveB |
I'm pretty sure Cook and Colback have one more year anyway |
Cook and Colback have one-year options on their contracts, so the club will decide whether they stay. | | | |
| Out of contract (again) on 11:42 - Feb 6 with 967 views | Esox_Lucius |
Notwithstanding that it may be due to returning from injury, Cook looked a bit lost vs Blackburn and looked nervous on the ball. He was overshadowed by the way Edwards played the role so I may be being a bit harsh on him. He made a magnificent header towards the end of the game but but the rest was very much a 6/10 performance and it never impresses me when he makes a mistake and rather than hold his hand up he starts pointing and blaming a teammate. If his and Colback's reported wages are correct I don't think their future with the club should be pursued as we will be needing reserves to offer improved contracts to those youngsters who fulfil their promise and need to be tied down on longer, improved contracts so we can at least receive decent transfer fees for them when & if they leave.
Somebody mentioned above that if Paal leaves we might end up looking back and thinking he wasn't as bad as we all said. He is technically very good and suited to the fast, one touch passing out of defence, witness the spell where he, Saito, Chair and occasionally Morgan were ripping through Rovers midfield at will. That sort of full back play was way above most players we have had in the past in that position, except maybe Assou-Ekotto, His set piece delivery is also superior to others ATM and the Weds. game corners seemed to be a directive to hit the ball short (and lose possession) compared to previous games where he was hitting them to the back post/ 6 yard box with great success.
I wonder if his biggest critics are those who only see him on streams and not live as, albeit not faultless, his performances are almost always 7/10 or better since November. |  |
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| Out of contract (again) on 12:20 - Feb 6 with 873 views | Gloucs_R |
Anyone got the pay as you play bingo board ready? |  |
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| Out of contract (again) on 12:29 - Feb 6 with 855 views | nadera78 |
Depends what league we're playing in, surely? lol | | | |
| Out of contract (again) on 12:31 - Feb 6 with 834 views | Watford_Ranger |
| Out of contract (again) on 10:15 - Feb 6 by TK1 |
The only footballer whose wages I have ever known are Frey's through a very weird set of coincidences that will never be repeated, and I will never know anybody else's wage: if you knew how much his weekly wage in season two is, you would not be saying renew. I think we shake hands, thank him for his eight (?) goals he scored in 24/25, each one it's literal weight in gold, and try and find someone five years younger and half (at least) as expensive.
I'm sure the dressing room knows his wage (and Cook's, and Jesus, imagine Colback's given his availability) and we should perhaps factor that into what Dunne might expect from his next contract. All this explains mainly hiring young players at start of their career rather than experienced pros on final contracts, too... |
What does a goal weigh these days? | | | |
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