| Abuse in modern football 21:37 - Jan 27 with 3125 views | SAPilgrim |
After the news today that Stuart Kettlewell has resigned at Motherwell in Scotland in part because fan abuse was making his family not want to turn up at games, ashby deleting his social media as a closer to home example, even some disagreements on this forum (becoming a bit more spirited than anyone means to, do people think there’s a real culture problem now in modern football?
Is it just a weaker generation? Is it social media/coked up tourists/the immense amounts of money and expectations in the modern game? Will it get better, could it get worse? Regular and non-regular posters opinions invited. |  | | |  |
| Abuse in modern football on 12:49 - Jan 28 with 702 views | R_from_afar |
| Abuse in modern football on 01:23 - Jan 28 by SydneyRs |
100% social media a big problem. It means there is no escape and people are stirring up nastiness 24/7. Over the last decade or so online discourse has become very unpleasant and certain forces are deliberately stoking division in every aspect of society.
Its one thing having banter, funny memes (which become less funny after endless copy/pasting) etc, but the personal stuff is just plain nasty and I assume mostly driven by individuals that are very unhappy with their own existence. |
Great thread, good post.
I subscribe to a travel blogger on YouTube who makes very slick, well researched videos about her travels in Scotland (where I have relatives).
Most of the comments below the videos are extremely grateful and supportive but - sigh - some morons can't resist posting one liners like: "You're hot!"
Frankly, it's pathetic, creepy and unnerving. She's not a p0rn model or making videos clad only in lingerie.
Shameful 
I think before posting something online, people need to ask themselves:
- Would I say that to someone face to face?
- How would I feel if someone said it to me?
- How would I feel if someone said it to a close friend or relative of mine? |  |
| "Things had started becoming increasingly desperate at Loftus Road but QPR have been handed a massive lifeline and the place has absolutely erupted. it's carnage. It's bedlam. It's 1-1." |
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| Abuse in modern football on 13:53 - Jan 28 with 606 views | vanrrrr |
It’s like hooliganism in 70s and 80s i-a societal
Issue , not just at football.
The anonymity social media allows and the business models of twitter / facebook etc that support that are at the root of so much bad behavior. There is unfortunately no will to change that and tech companies will not implement change themselves as any regulation runs counter to their business models. Until there is a big change in regulation and liability for these platforms I doubt things will change much.
Unfortunately there are a lot of idiots out there. |  | | |
| Abuse in modern football on 21:59 - Jan 28 with 413 views | charmr |
Good for Cantona and doing something. Players also cupping their ear or silent lips to fans. Wouldn’t do that if they knew they felt safe etc.
The hounding Oliver got from the Arsenal players was insane. Hey don’t fing trip him then and be so indignant as you got penalized for a professional/tactical foul and my team mates would be proud instead of one reasonable sane soul from Arsenal saying
‘what the fcuk you doing’
I wouldn’t last 5 mins in a professional clubs dressing room. My mate played at a high level and said it ain’t the brightest place.
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| Abuse in modern football on 23:03 - Jan 28 with 338 views | nix |
| Abuse in modern football on 01:23 - Jan 28 by SydneyRs |
100% social media a big problem. It means there is no escape and people are stirring up nastiness 24/7. Over the last decade or so online discourse has become very unpleasant and certain forces are deliberately stoking division in every aspect of society.
Its one thing having banter, funny memes (which become less funny after endless copy/pasting) etc, but the personal stuff is just plain nasty and I assume mostly driven by individuals that are very unhappy with their own existence. |
Absolutely spot on. Also aspects of the media stirring up emotions to get clicks or viewers. On my browser home page most articles are designed to get us furious about NHS mistakes or people paying tax they don't want to or people not paying tax they don't want to or politicians just because. It's not surprising people are becoming so angry.
I genuinely have seen more scuffles between middle aged commuters on the train home than I have at football though. Perhaps I've just been lucky. |  | | |
| Abuse in modern football on 07:29 - Jan 29 with 206 views | Gus_iom |
| Abuse in modern football on 12:49 - Jan 28 by R_from_afar |
Great thread, good post.
I subscribe to a travel blogger on YouTube who makes very slick, well researched videos about her travels in Scotland (where I have relatives).
Most of the comments below the videos are extremely grateful and supportive but - sigh - some morons can't resist posting one liners like: "You're hot!"
Frankly, it's pathetic, creepy and unnerving. She's not a p0rn model or making videos clad only in lingerie.
Shameful
I think before posting something online, people need to ask themselves:
- Would I say that to someone face to face?
- How would I feel if someone said it to me?
- How would I feel if someone said it to a close friend or relative of mine? |
I get involved in debates on a local forum sometimes, and being socially conservative (small c), have found myself on the receiving end of a pile on a few times.
But as the erstwhile distant R says, my guiding factor is, 'would I say it to their face?'. Helps keep it civil, at least from my end.
Think before you type.
The Ashby stuff is embarrassing, tbh. I've never seen him give less then 100%, he had a shocker, he knew it, the last thing he needed.......if Dunne goes for a couple of million at the last minute, he's our back-up, and some of our own fans have done their upmost to undermine the poor lad. | | | |
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