| If a miracle happened and we went up via the playoffs 09:09 - Jan 19 with 5179 views | numptydumpty |
Would you want that ???
For me, an emphatic NO...
If the playing fields were much more even, then absolutely yes, but it could do to us like what has happened to Luton and many others.
We are on the crest of a wave currently - and I want that to continue for as long as is possible.
Yes this scenario is very unlikely to happen but just wondered what others thought.
It's amazing what's happening at the moment but the Leicester game who have lost seven in a row in the premiership shows the gulf.
Just wondering what others think ?? [Post edited 19 Jan 9:11]
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| If a miracle happened and we went up via the playoffs on 17:23 - Jan 19 with 893 views | Ned_Kennedys |
| If a miracle happened and we went up via the playoffs on 16:31 - Jan 19 by davman |
We need to build, season onu season before considering it. Top 12 this season, top 8 next, then playoff semi finalist and then either automatic or play off winners.
Look at yesterday's team and performance. Look at last week v Leicester who keep losing in the prem. A different planet to teams in the prem. If we fluked our way up (and it would be a fluke), we'd have to mortgage the clubs future to build a competitive squad. That means doing a Forest.
They have got away with it by staying up. Does anyone think we would?
Build season on season. When we win more than we lose over 3 seasons, then we can talk. |
So you want four seasons of slow progress of slight improvement?
Don't expect Cifuentes to be here for that: if we want to keep him we need to be pushing on this season and starting well and aiming for the playoffs next season.
The guy is ambitious and if he feels progress is slow then he’ll be looking to move on to ‘bigger’ clubs sooner rather than later. |  | | |
| If a miracle happened and we went up via the playoffs on 17:27 - Jan 19 with 874 views | gazza1 |
| If a miracle happened and we went up via the playoffs on 17:20 - Jan 19 by thehat |
I would spend the £15M on the next phase of upgrading the training centre. That is the lifeblood of the club.
Don’t go mad on silly transfers that’s what we did last time. In the likely event of relegation we would be in a much better position to go back up with the club having a strong financial backbone for the first time in a generation. |
If you don't improve the squad then that even more lessons the chances of staying in the Premier......must spend a tidy amount on players and save a bit for a 'rainy day'. |  | | |
| If a miracle happened and we went up via the playoffs on 17:45 - Jan 19 with 804 views | davman |
Ned, response to your post (forgot to Quote you...)
Maybe, but go up when not ready and we'll just embarrass ourselves again.
Look I understand wanting to get as high as we can, but winning is just so much more fun than losing every single week. It was horrible the last couple of times and looking at my Saints supporting mates, right now, the promise of a top 6 or top 2 season next season is scant consolation for them right now.
Slow build for me and if Marti can't wait, it'll be with whoever takes his job on. [Post edited 19 Jan 17:52]
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| If a miracle happened and we went up via the playoffs on 17:46 - Jan 19 with 806 views | dmm |
I'm watching Ipswich v Citeh. Ipswich are a good team with an excellent manager but they're being taken apart by Citeh who are leading 0 - 4.
Of course, promotion to the PL means getting in the money but it's no fun up there for most promoted teams. |  | | |
| If a miracle happened and we went up via the playoffs on 17:50 - Jan 19 with 796 views | captainmycaptian |
You have to want promotion. I understand the down side but the money would.have to be sensibly used. The chances of this happening this season is very very slim. But you have to want to succeed just like a decent cup.run !!! | | | |
| If a miracle happened and we went up via the playoffs on 17:52 - Jan 19 with 783 views | ted_hendrix |
Bet the Ipswich fans are loving It. |  |
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| If a miracle happened and we went up via the playoffs on 17:57 - Jan 19 with 753 views | Wilkinswatercarrier |
Why would we not want to be promoted? If poxy little clubs like Brentford and Bournmouth can stay in it, so can we.
I'm sick of the Championship. it's a bollox league, and we should all want out of it. | | | |
| If a miracle happened and we went up via the playoffs on 18:09 - Jan 19 with 730 views | GloryHunter |
If we go up via the playoffs, Marti will immediately be lured away up by another club. Failing that, he will be sacked part-way into the first disastrous PL season. Whichever way, it ends in tears. So no thanks, I don't wish for it. |  | | |
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| If a miracle happened and we went up via the playoffs on 18:13 - Jan 19 with 699 views | Ned_Kennedys |
| If a miracle happened and we went up via the playoffs on 17:52 - Jan 19 by ted_hendrix |
Bet the Ipswich fans are loving It. |
I bet they are overall this season.
Being thrashed by a rejuvenated Manchester City ££££££££££s team won’t define their season. | | | |
| If a miracle happened and we went up via the playoffs on 18:13 - Jan 19 with 700 views | Paddyhoops |
| If a miracle happened and we went up via the playoffs on 17:52 - Jan 19 by ted_hendrix |
Bet the Ipswich fans are loving It. |
And still 10 minutes to go. | | | |
| If a miracle happened and we went up via the playoffs on 18:15 - Jan 19 with 683 views | Ned_Kennedys |
| If a miracle happened and we went up via the playoffs on 18:09 - Jan 19 by GloryHunter |
If we go up via the playoffs, Marti will immediately be lured away up by another club. Failing that, he will be sacked part-way into the first disastrous PL season. Whichever way, it ends in tears. So no thanks, I don't wish for it. |
More chance of him staying if we go up. | | | |
| If a miracle happened and we went up via the playoffs on 18:32 - Jan 19 with 590 views | daveB |
| If a miracle happened and we went up via the playoffs on 11:52 - Jan 19 by numptydumpty |
Great point Dave.
Can see that absolutely.
I would just be wary it could all be destroyed by going up too early, replacing our own exciting talent by bringing in premier league players who some would just be here for the money like previously and it could then destroy our future seasons.
Am just enjoying where we are currently.
But like others have said hope that we don't do what Southampton have done and can achieve a la Brentford or Brighton.etc
Yes and agree younger fans won't have the memories of the charlatans that came here in our last two very challenging attempts at the prem. Probably my thoughts affected by the past but yes I think we are a different club altogether now, i would hope.
Play off Final Alfie Last minute winner !!!
If that happened I do believe Alfie himself would self combust !!!
But no harm dreaming !!! [Post edited 19 Jan 11:55]
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If by some miracle we do go up the likelihood is we'll come straight back down, Ipswich have put together a decent side after promotion but are getting battered most weeks but they'll walk the championship next year with that squad, I thought we were going down from this league 6 weeks ago so you can never tell |  | | |
| If a miracle happened and we went up via the playoffs on 18:33 - Jan 19 with 588 views | ManinBlack |
| If a miracle happened and we went up via the playoffs on 17:18 - Jan 19 by gazza1 |
If your post is about mine.......then if 'strange' is criticizing then sobeit!!! |
I don't think anyone is saying they don't want to go up ever. What they are saying is they want better foundations and more time to get ready. I am saying it is too soon to go up and Marti hasn't had much time to build. He arrived to fight a relegation battle and basically has had to do the same this season after a poor first period of this campaign. Personally I think there is more chance of us turning up another blind alley than getting promoted this season. We are never far from another crisis so it seems as the years relentlessly pass.
Whilst it might be good financially to go up ASAP, it doesn't mean we will be a yo yo club like Fulham were. They managed to use their financial gains when returning to the Championship to hold onto Mitrovic each time they came down. He would bag them 30 goals to get them back up. Eventually this paid off and Fulham stayed up and developed into an established Premiership club without Mitrovic.
If we go up and come straight back down, we don't have a prolific scorer for the Championship to get us straight back up. We would need to find somebody like that in the Premiership and hope he stays with us after relegation and that's the hard part.
Southampton are doing their best to emulate Derby's record of one win and 11 points. Since that catastrophic season for Derby, they have never returned to the Premiership and I would hate to see us have a similar season and then not return to the Premiership for decades.
If we could use the parachute money to challenge at the top of the Championship continually then fine but we could go down to league 1 like Derby or be in the relegation zone like Luton today. How we use the Premiership riches on relegation is the key. |  | | |
| If a miracle happened and we went up via the playoffs on 18:34 - Jan 19 with 580 views | themodfather |
if and it is an if, we go up , grab the money, clear debts and come down suits me. don't spend 200m on players, long contracts , huge wages and we get lumbered. | | | |
| If a miracle happened and we went up via the playoffs on 18:42 - Jan 19 with 554 views | kernowhoop |
It is, of course, extremely unlikely. If it happened, it would be via the play-offs. If the rules allowed it then, having reached the Wembley play-off final, would we say 'No thanks. They (our opponents) can go up, instead.' ?
In the unlikely event that we were promoted, it would have to be managed in a calculating way. Not like last time. | | | |
| If a miracle happened and we went up via the playoffs on 18:53 - Jan 19 with 525 views | gazza1 |
| If a miracle happened and we went up via the playoffs on 18:33 - Jan 19 by ManinBlack |
I don't think anyone is saying they don't want to go up ever. What they are saying is they want better foundations and more time to get ready. I am saying it is too soon to go up and Marti hasn't had much time to build. He arrived to fight a relegation battle and basically has had to do the same this season after a poor first period of this campaign. Personally I think there is more chance of us turning up another blind alley than getting promoted this season. We are never far from another crisis so it seems as the years relentlessly pass.
Whilst it might be good financially to go up ASAP, it doesn't mean we will be a yo yo club like Fulham were. They managed to use their financial gains when returning to the Championship to hold onto Mitrovic each time they came down. He would bag them 30 goals to get them back up. Eventually this paid off and Fulham stayed up and developed into an established Premiership club without Mitrovic.
If we go up and come straight back down, we don't have a prolific scorer for the Championship to get us straight back up. We would need to find somebody like that in the Premiership and hope he stays with us after relegation and that's the hard part.
Southampton are doing their best to emulate Derby's record of one win and 11 points. Since that catastrophic season for Derby, they have never returned to the Premiership and I would hate to see us have a similar season and then not return to the Premiership for decades.
If we could use the parachute money to challenge at the top of the Championship continually then fine but we could go down to league 1 like Derby or be in the relegation zone like Luton today. How we use the Premiership riches on relegation is the key. |
Read the first post (and several others posts) & then I suggest you delete your first sentence because it is 100% incorrect!!!! | | | |
| If a miracle happened and we went up via the playoffs on 19:07 - Jan 19 with 488 views | cheeseydane |
One reason for pomotion, ...
I'd love to see JD bitchslapping premier centerhalves in their own area. 🤣 |  |
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| If a miracle happened and we went up via the playoffs on 19:10 - Jan 19 with 476 views | kensalriser |
This is from the glossary, isn't it? Win a few games, cue the playoffs/promotion threads. |  |
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| If a miracle happened and we went up via the playoffs on 19:25 - Jan 19 with 417 views | ted_hendrix |
| If a miracle happened and we went up via the playoffs on 18:13 - Jan 19 by Paddyhoops |
And still 10 minutes to go. |
I loved our promotions to the Prem, I couldn't believe I was driving to Goodison Park for our first away game after promotion and even better on the way home by the time I got back onto the M6 Moyes was still waffling on about Everton's 'bad luck' during the game (bollox Moyes and thanks Tommy Smith for the winner).
But It turned sour for me the whole experience , I was at the Etihad when we survived by the skin of our teeth and listening to Mark bloody Hughes on the radio talking about QPR not being In that situation next season (just piss off)
The kick off times, the expense of It all, Its all part and parcel of It, the one thing that I really noticed was fans who were always sat around me within nodding distance had disappeared once we were In the Prem.
I didn't like It, I didn't like the razzamatazz, the fanfares the TV cameras, I've got no Interest In footballers who are considered as being 'superstars' or whatever.
I understand our clubs financial situation and I understand what financial stability promotion to the Prem could bring.
I don't know the answer If we went up.
When we won the play off final my Journey home from WHL after Spurs used us as a training game during our first away game and kick our arses was murder, that whole season was pretty much murder.
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| If a miracle happened and we went up via the playoffs on 19:30 - Jan 19 with 394 views | Ned_Kennedys |
| If a miracle happened and we went up via the playoffs on 19:10 - Jan 19 by kensalriser |
This is from the glossary, isn't it? Win a few games, cue the playoffs/promotion threads. |
It’s a lot more positive than all the ‘we are definitely getting relegated’ posts on here in October and November. | | | |
| If a miracle happened and we went up via the playoffs on 19:36 - Jan 19 with 374 views | ManinBlack |
| If a miracle happened and we went up via the playoffs on 18:53 - Jan 19 by gazza1 |
Read the first post (and several others posts) & then I suggest you delete your first sentence because it is 100% incorrect!!!! |
Really? A 100% incorrect? That cannot be right as I don't want us to go up now but do so at some point and I am certain many others think the same that we are not ready. There will be very few fans who never want to play in the Premiership again and I am unconvinced when anyone says they don't as surely they want to win this league like under Warnock or experience another win at Wembley? [Post edited 19 Jan 19:52]
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| If a miracle happened and we went up via the playoffs on 19:51 - Jan 19 with 337 views | ManinBlack |
| If a miracle happened and we went up via the playoffs on 14:36 - Jan 19 by SK_hoops |
I doubt we'd have the exact same team that got beaten though, especially Ashby. |
I agree we didn't play our best side and that contributed to us conceding six on the day. However, it has to be remembered in the first half of the season we had a lot of injuries and couldn't win at home. Clearly our reserves are not up to the Championship levels which is a problem when you play a side a league above.
My point is that if we won this season's play offs and had a similar problem with injuries in the Premiership next season, then we could play many sides with our team weakened. Imagine Nardi and Dunne out for months and fielding a similar defence that played at Leicester week after week. In the Premiership against better players than Leicester have it would be carnage. We don't have enough strength beyond our first choice team. | | | |
| If a miracle happened and we went up via the playoffs on 20:53 - Jan 19 with 252 views | dm97 |
| If a miracle happened and we went up via the playoffs on 19:10 - Jan 19 by kensalriser |
This is from the glossary, isn't it? Win a few games, cue the playoffs/promotion threads. |
This. The amount of WhatsApp group chats covering the points gap to 6th on a minute by minute basis 3-5pm Saturday was amusing. Remember when we were all dancing into the early hours after beating Grealish et al under McClaren - ended well!
Personally content to just enjoy the feeling of not being terminally anxious every weekend, and support the team with some optimism [Post edited 19 Jan 20:53]
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| If a miracle happened and we went up via the playoffs on 21:33 - Jan 19 with 194 views | GaryHaddock |
| If a miracle happened and we went up via the playoffs on 19:10 - Jan 19 by kensalriser |
This is from the glossary, isn't it? Win a few games, cue the playoffs/promotion threads. |
It’s fun though isn’t it. |  | | |
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