| Frey 19:15 - Jan 8 with 2121 views | NorthantsHoop |
I like Frey up front, his physicality the sort of style of striker that suits what we need at this level,leading the line, roughing up defenders and getting vital goals. Reminds me of Hugill same sort of player, who I really thought did a great job while on loan to us. We sort of know Frey can't last a full 90 mins but options of Kolli and Lloyd to do last third of the game is a real bonus as well as they are growing in confidence. [Post edited 8 Jan 19:16]
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| Frey on 21:08 - Jan 8 with 1945 views | bosh67 |
Totally agree. The Hugill comparison is spot on. I actually think he is a tougher version of Hugill. My Luton friends were saying that McGinness (who I thought was very good) hasn't been that dominated by anyone before. It has taken him some time through injury and just getting up to speed in this division, but actually even a side that has the ambition to play pretty football needs a big geaser who bashes up defenders and puts the ball in the net. The Luton lads around here were saying how good he is. |  |
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| Frey on 21:39 - Jan 8 with 1833 views | BrianMcCarthy |
| Frey on 21:08 - Jan 8 by bosh67 |
Totally agree. The Hugill comparison is spot on. I actually think he is a tougher version of Hugill. My Luton friends were saying that McGinness (who I thought was very good) hasn't been that dominated by anyone before. It has taken him some time through injury and just getting up to speed in this division, but actually even a side that has the ambition to play pretty football needs a big geaser who bashes up defenders and puts the ball in the net. The Luton lads around here were saying how good he is. |
Bosh,
Sorry to go off-topic but talking about McGuinness will help in assessing Frey, I hope...
I was watching McGuinness, as I always do. He's an interesting player, but I can't make my mind up about him. Frey has bullied him in open play twice now, he's not quick, he's one-footed, not sure he likes a tackle, but then he has huge height and is trusted as the main man in their very well planned and executed set pieces, so he must also have leadership skills and be trusted.
Interesting to hear that he hasn't been dominated before, because for all of his height he's 24 and looks slight to me.
The question I keep mulling over is "who would you prefer in your team/club - McGuinness or Dunne?" |  |
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| Frey on 21:50 - Jan 8 with 1777 views | PunteR |
| Frey on 21:39 - Jan 8 by BrianMcCarthy |
Bosh,
Sorry to go off-topic but talking about McGuinness will help in assessing Frey, I hope...
I was watching McGuinness, as I always do. He's an interesting player, but I can't make my mind up about him. Frey has bullied him in open play twice now, he's not quick, he's one-footed, not sure he likes a tackle, but then he has huge height and is trusted as the main man in their very well planned and executed set pieces, so he must also have leadership skills and be trusted.
Interesting to hear that he hasn't been dominated before, because for all of his height he's 24 and looks slight to me.
The question I keep mulling over is "who would you prefer in your team/club - McGuinness or Dunne?" |
McGuiness was impressive for their corners though. |  |
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| Frey on 22:35 - Jan 8 with 1637 views | BrianMcCarthy |
| Frey on 21:50 - Jan 8 by PunteR |
McGuiness was impressive for their corners though. |
Very. | |
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| Frey on 23:40 - Jan 8 with 1488 views | queensparker |
| Frey on 21:50 - Jan 8 by PunteR |
McGuiness was impressive for their corners though. |
But then so is Jimmy as we know.
Let’s buy McGuinness and have both of them and we won’t have to bother with anything else! Bingo |  | | |
| Frey on 07:04 - Jan 9 with 1254 views | Wilkinswatercarrier |
| Frey on 21:50 - Jan 8 by PunteR |
McGuiness was impressive for their corners though. |
£10m, he better be good at corners. £10m, WTF!
So Luton buy McGuiness from Cardiff, but are only a couple of places above them. Cardiff take said £10m and do nothing with it.
Couldn't happen to two nicer clubs. |  | | |
| Frey on 07:53 - Jan 9 with 1167 views | stevec |
The problem with Frey is how long will he stay fit. We can’t have a disappearing act for half of every season, especially as lone striker.
Definitely decent when he is on call though. |  | | |
| Frey on 07:58 - Jan 9 with 1163 views | WestonsuperR |
Lack of lace and fitness concerns for me over Frey. Kev Gallen summed it up perfectly when he described Frey as a third choice striker who you chuck on when needing a goal, not a starter. |  | | |
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| Frey on 09:50 - Jan 9 with 964 views | BrianMcCarthy |
Great analysis, Westway. | |
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| Frey on 10:08 - Jan 9 with 919 views | QPunkR |
Agreed, plus Michi bullies the shit out of defenders, holds the ball up well and brings others into play beautifully. On Monday his first time passes round the corner to set Smyth free were great, as well as his determination to then sprint into the box to provide an option |  |
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| Frey on 10:11 - Jan 9 with 903 views | gazza1 |
Best we got and I like him......but we need even better. | | | |
| Frey on 10:26 - Jan 9 with 862 views | W7Ranger |
| Frey on 21:39 - Jan 8 by BrianMcCarthy |
Bosh,
Sorry to go off-topic but talking about McGuinness will help in assessing Frey, I hope...
I was watching McGuinness, as I always do. He's an interesting player, but I can't make my mind up about him. Frey has bullied him in open play twice now, he's not quick, he's one-footed, not sure he likes a tackle, but then he has huge height and is trusted as the main man in their very well planned and executed set pieces, so he must also have leadership skills and be trusted.
Interesting to hear that he hasn't been dominated before, because for all of his height he's 24 and looks slight to me.
The question I keep mulling over is "who would you prefer in your team/club - McGuinness or Dunne?" |
Fun fact...
I know McGuinness's brother (Tom) and Dad (John) who bowl for Gerard Cross Bowls Club in Bucks.
Tom played for (and Captained) the England Under 25 team, and is now a Senior International.
John played for and Captained the Senior England team up until about 5 years ago.
Both excellent players and very nice chaps too.  [Post edited 9 Jan 12:36]
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| Frey on 10:31 - Jan 9 with 809 views | Loyalitat |
Great analysis, Westway. His anticipatory instincts, which I believe is an innate quality and can't really be taught, are clearly in evidence and it bodes well for the rest of the season.
I can see the Chair to Frey source of supply getting us a decent number of goals during the remainder of this season. That's why Chair is playing the balls in earlier, as he knows that Frey will be in the vicinity and challenging in most instances, which is a far cry from the statuesque and non-anticipatory Dykes.
I like. [Post edited 9 Jan 10:55]
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| Frey on 10:34 - Jan 9 with 797 views | Ned_Kennedys |
| Frey on 07:58 - Jan 9 by WestonsuperR |
Lack of lace and fitness concerns for me over Frey. Kev Gallen summed it up perfectly when he described Frey as a third choice striker who you chuck on when needing a goal, not a starter. |
He’s very much a starter and clearly our number one striker.
Not many forwards have his attributes AND pace, certainly not at Championship level. |  | | |
| Frey on 10:39 - Jan 9 with 767 views | W7Ranger |
| Frey on 07:58 - Jan 9 by WestonsuperR |
Lack of lace and fitness concerns for me over Frey. Kev Gallen summed it up perfectly when he described Frey as a third choice striker who you chuck on when needing a goal, not a starter. |
Well based on the last 2 performances that's complete and utter bollox! | | | |
| Frey on 10:50 - Jan 9 with 711 views | BrizR |
Great analysis Westway.
I think Frey is underserved by how weird he looks running - he's a big unit and he looks slow, but the first goal on Monday he starts the move from inside our half and finishes it standing practically on the touchline, he can hustle when he needs to. He's not exactly Paul Smyth but I don't think he's markedly slow for a Championship striker, and he helps himself out by having good instincts for positioning. He has good vision and passing to go with the strength too, he's a surprisingly complete player. | | | |
| Frey on 11:10 - Jan 9 with 661 views | Andybrat |
| Frey on 10:50 - Jan 9 by BrizR |
Great analysis Westway.
I think Frey is underserved by how weird he looks running - he's a big unit and he looks slow, but the first goal on Monday he starts the move from inside our half and finishes it standing practically on the touchline, he can hustle when he needs to. He's not exactly Paul Smyth but I don't think he's markedly slow for a Championship striker, and he helps himself out by having good instincts for positioning. He has good vision and passing to go with the strength too, he's a surprisingly complete player. |
What’s his goals per game ratio this season?
Must be a nightmare for defenders to have him and Jimmy in the box.
If he stays fit he will score double figures this season, how many recent forwards could we say that about. It’s been mentioned already but that pass to Smyth was a preach I was right behind it,the arc and bend was perfect.
You do wonder whether he would be even better with 2 up front. | | | |
| Frey on 11:29 - Jan 9 with 576 views | ozexile |
I'd offer him a new contract personally. Don't think with our track record we'd find better. | | | |
| Frey on 11:43 - Jan 9 with 516 views | BrizR |
| Frey on 11:10 - Jan 9 by Andybrat |
What’s his goals per game ratio this season?
Must be a nightmare for defenders to have him and Jimmy in the box.
If he stays fit he will score double figures this season, how many recent forwards could we say that about. It’s been mentioned already but that pass to Smyth was a preach I was right behind it,the arc and bend was perfect.
You do wonder whether he would be even better with 2 up front. |
6 in 16 league and cup, so a little better than 1 in 3, plus an assist. Not a bad ratio, especially when you think what a state the team was in overall earlier in the season. | | | |
| Frey on 11:53 - Jan 9 with 479 views | Westway |
| Frey on 11:43 - Jan 9 by BrizR |
6 in 16 league and cup, so a little better than 1 in 3, plus an assist. Not a bad ratio, especially when you think what a state the team was in overall earlier in the season. |
He'd have a couple more if Jimmy and Sammy hadn't got in the way!  |  | | |
| Frey on 12:12 - Jan 9 with 399 views | nix |
| Frey on 11:53 - Jan 9 by Westway |
He'd have a couple more if Jimmy and Sammy hadn't got in the way! |
Yeah. Also he doesn't usually play 90 minutes so he's actually scored every 189 minutes he's on the pitch in the league. I also think he's underated defensively. He wins the ball back a fair bit and also links play in attack. The main thing is keeping him fit. |  | | |
| Frey on 12:46 - Jan 9 with 270 views | robith |
| Frey on 12:12 - Jan 9 by nix |
Yeah. Also he doesn't usually play 90 minutes so he's actually scored every 189 minutes he's on the pitch in the league. I also think he's underated defensively. He wins the ball back a fair bit and also links play in attack. The main thing is keeping him fit. |
Frey is a big part of our solidity because the ball either doesn't come back at us as frequently, or less quickly, than it was earlier in the year. He's a nice out ball and makes the 3 in attack work |  | | |
| Frey on 12:56 - Jan 9 with 223 views | Dorse |
| Frey on 12:12 - Jan 9 by nix |
Yeah. Also he doesn't usually play 90 minutes so he's actually scored every 189 minutes he's on the pitch in the league. I also think he's underated defensively. He wins the ball back a fair bit and also links play in attack. The main thing is keeping him fit. |
I like the way that he makes defenders nervous in possession. You can see them trying to work out where they can dump the ball before he's close enough to clatter them. We won a few balls on Monday night from rushed passes ending up with Morgan and Chair after he rushed their CBs. |  |
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| Frey on 13:20 - Jan 9 with 139 views | LazyFan |
| Frey on 12:46 - Jan 9 by robith |
Frey is a big part of our solidity because the ball either doesn't come back at us as frequently, or less quickly, than it was earlier in the year. He's a nice out ball and makes the 3 in attack work |
This.
Also this type of player is rare and getting rarer, as a result CB's are not used to playing against this type of player and can get caught out a lot, even if they are big tall players themsleves.
I think someone said on here, that Sir Les was asked why there are not more of these types of players these days and was told by Sir Les everyone in the academies and yoof teams, wants to be a number 10. A Chair or Eze type. Great aspirations for sure, but as we can see with Woods in the Prem a good old fashioned number 9 bouncing off defenders is also very valuable. So, there is way forward for people who don't have the Eze skills to come through too.
Sir Les, Furlong, Hugill, and Helgason were, I believe, not over 6 feet tall, so you do not need to be that tall (but some height, yes), but you do need to put yourself about not just a bit but a lot and in an aggressive manner. This is also part of the game and works.
In the good old days, we would have Les, Falco, Colin Clarke and more do this. Teams, even like the old crazy gang Wimbledon, didn't like it done to them. And if you had the defenders to stop it being done to you, Macca, Maddix, Peacock and today Cook, JCS, Morrison, then you win the game usually.
This modern game is all well and good tippy tappy, but I also like a Paul Furlong charging around like a maniac pressing defenders like a nutter and then doing some nice skills to finish from 30 yards as he sometimes did too. Generally being a proper nuisance to these teams that like to play it out from the back, which is most teams these days.
I bet Paul Furlong wishes he was 20 years younger for many reasons, but one of them being these stupid defenders playing out from the back would have played right into his hands as he would run them into the ground and smash them about a lot, whilst also doing deft finishes to score a tidy goal or two. Where is the Durie vs Macca battles we used to have, just like the good old days! |  |
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