| Sorry Paal 13:34 - Dec 27 with 2936 views | Jules4367 |
Don't get me wrong, I DO actually like Ken Paal - but only in his attacking format.
I have griped and moaned (as many will know and probably will comment) for the last two seasons and despair at his defending!
How many times are we going to see Paal beaten and a cross come in from close quarters or the goal line to the centre of the box leading to a simple tap in. Time and time again the ball goes to our right and 15 seconds later they score a goal.
(This is how sensitised to this weakness I am, I couldn't watch the match yesterday but was keeping track and asked someone who was at the ground whether any of the first two were balls played past Paal and crossed in to the centre and sure enough one was! I'm not psychic, so how did I know that this WOULD be the case? - and if I know this, other teams know this, but clearly Ken doesn't get it! 
Surely they analyse and break down who should have done what for each goal and learn from things don't they? In any job, you WILL make mistakes but the key is to learn from them and not keeping doing more of the same?
Teams playing us probably rub their hands with goal inspired glee when they see Paal on the play sheet as a defender.🤔🤬.
We were unlucky with the third but their second, which put us under pressure was, in my opinion, due to Paal's continued lack of awareness and reaction.
But hey, I am probably once again talking rubbish and someone will advise me as such and cite that he does an outstanding job in defence, and clears balls off the line etc. [Post edited 27 Dec 13:39]
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| Sorry Paal on 13:37 - Dec 27 with 2464 views | Northernr |
Shocker yesterday for sure. |  | | |
| Sorry Paal on 13:50 - Dec 27 with 2374 views | Dorse |
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| Sorry Paal on 13:52 - Dec 27 with 2352 views | connell10 |
| Sorry Paal on 13:50 - Dec 27 by Dorse |
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| Sorry Paal on 13:56 - Dec 27 with 2328 views | A40Bosh |
You are not wrong.
The answer to the problem though is generally one of three things - depending on who you believe.
We cannot afford to bring in any better
Our Manager should be able to coach what we have to be much better
Our scouting and recruitment team have been poor in recruitment for the last 30yrs
cos there are 1000s of cheap and better options out there if we had a decent set up |  |
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| Sorry Paal on 13:56 - Dec 27 with 2318 views | OxfordHoops |
I’ve been saying the same and raised it on here a few weeks ago, every time he plays we look so weak on that side and concede so easily, Ashby has been pretty solid and is a far better option for us on the left. It was noticeable how much we improved in the second half after he was hooked off. Due to both JCS and Fox lack of match fitness, we should have shifted Dunne to a back 3 with Smyth and Ashby as Wing Backs. Hindsight is always a better view!
Hopefully Morrison will be back Saturday, him and JCS in the middle is likely to be the best two, until Cooke returns?
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| Sorry Paal on 14:16 - Dec 27 with 2196 views | StreathamRanger |
Seems about a 50:50 split on here between those who rate him and those who don't. Personally I think he's been really poor this season and is consistently targeted by opposition teams. Maybe he's being told to tuck in close to the centre backs as it's baffling how often he leaves so much space for wingers to get crosses in. All that being said, Ashby isn't really any better. He plays with a bit more energy but his passing is very poor. Really hoping we can get a new left back in in January but they may prioritise a CB with all the injuries. | | | |
| Sorry Paal on 14:25 - Dec 27 with 2171 views | Lblock |
| Sorry Paal on 13:56 - Dec 27 by OxfordHoops |
I’ve been saying the same and raised it on here a few weeks ago, every time he plays we look so weak on that side and concede so easily, Ashby has been pretty solid and is a far better option for us on the left. It was noticeable how much we improved in the second half after he was hooked off. Due to both JCS and Fox lack of match fitness, we should have shifted Dunne to a back 3 with Smyth and Ashby as Wing Backs. Hindsight is always a better view!
Hopefully Morrison will be back Saturday, him and JCS in the middle is likely to be the best two, until Cooke returns?
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"Ashby has been pretty solid and is a far better option for us on the left"
My God you must really have it in for our Kenneth.
I'm not sure Ashby is even a footballer.
It's a shame as I think Paal has been an okay player for us over his time but clearly that time is coming to an end, certainly in his head.
Whoever we sign there needs to hit the ground running.
If Ken is to leave this window then ideally we need two or another who can cover LB as at the moment the only other answer we have is Saito that I can see. I don't buy this assertion that Colback could do a job there whatsoever; he'd be in the bath by 3:20pm
Another sad indictment that we don't even have a raw kid we can hang out to dry there!!! |  |
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| Sorry Paal on 14:26 - Dec 27 with 2160 views | Northernr |
| Sorry Paal on 14:25 - Dec 27 by Lblock |
"Ashby has been pretty solid and is a far better option for us on the left"
My God you must really have it in for our Kenneth.
I'm not sure Ashby is even a footballer.
It's a shame as I think Paal has been an okay player for us over his time but clearly that time is coming to an end, certainly in his head.
Whoever we sign there needs to hit the ground running.
If Ken is to leave this window then ideally we need two or another who can cover LB as at the moment the only other answer we have is Saito that I can see. I don't buy this assertion that Colback could do a job there whatsoever; he'd be in the bath by 3:20pm
Another sad indictment that we don't even have a raw kid we can hang out to dry there!!! |
I'd send Ashby back, personally. | | | |
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| Sorry Paal on 14:45 - Dec 27 with 2092 views | mart_Goblin |
Yeah, been griping about Paal since very early on in his Rangers career. Teams target him week in and week out .
However Ashby ain’t the answer either. Neither are good enough long term in my opinion. |  | | |
| Sorry Paal on 16:27 - Dec 27 with 1902 views | steveo04 |
Yesterday felt like Millwall away last Boxing Day when Marti axed Dozzell and Kakay , I wouldn’t be surprised if he does the same with Fox and Paal. | | | |
| Sorry Paal on 17:27 - Dec 27 with 1757 views | davman |
He is utterly garbage and I have been saying it for yonks.
Doesn't get close enough to the attacker, continually backs off and is so easy to get past with a drop of the shoulder. Continually the wrong side. Continually up the pitch scrambling to get back.
Can't cross (generally bar one or two corkers), cannot beat a man (has he EVER run past anyone in his time here?) and generally passes backwards or sideways.
Yet many on here like him - I just do not get it and am expecting the Esox obligatory downvote on this one and a few others! I suspect that you are seduced by his nice touch, but that deserted him yesterday.
Add in the can't be arsed attitude he has shown throughout this season and we HAVE to find a way to get rid of him and replace him with something / anything in January. People will say, let Fox / JCS / Larkeche / Colback play there and you'll see how good Kenny is, but that is rubbish. Saito and Beenie have played there and looked better than Paal this season.
An absolute liability and one of the worst this season.
A charlatan. |  |
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| Sorry Paal on 18:01 - Dec 27 with 1710 views | Northernr |
| Sorry Paal on 17:27 - Dec 27 by davman |
He is utterly garbage and I have been saying it for yonks.
Doesn't get close enough to the attacker, continually backs off and is so easy to get past with a drop of the shoulder. Continually the wrong side. Continually up the pitch scrambling to get back.
Can't cross (generally bar one or two corkers), cannot beat a man (has he EVER run past anyone in his time here?) and generally passes backwards or sideways.
Yet many on here like him - I just do not get it and am expecting the Esox obligatory downvote on this one and a few others! I suspect that you are seduced by his nice touch, but that deserted him yesterday.
Add in the can't be arsed attitude he has shown throughout this season and we HAVE to find a way to get rid of him and replace him with something / anything in January. People will say, let Fox / JCS / Larkeche / Colback play there and you'll see how good Kenny is, but that is rubbish. Saito and Beenie have played there and looked better than Paal this season.
An absolute liability and one of the worst this season.
A charlatan. |
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| Sorry Paal on 18:44 - Dec 27 with 1617 views | thehat |
Big weak link in the team - has one okay game in ten. The other nine he is atrocious and costs us many goals.
Always targeted by the opposition to good effect - The sooner we are shot of him the better. | | | |
| Sorry Paal on 18:53 - Dec 27 with 1587 views | lassel |
At the risk of being a stuck record, it’s a nightmare scenario really. Cifuentes has never rated him and was tacitly calling him out repeatedly last season, asking for players who were ‘brave’, the opposite of Paal who deliberately places himself behind a man so he can’t receive the ball.
The club then allowed local media to run all summer with the fact that they were desperate to get rid of him, only to find nobody else wanted him, and the replacements we were interested in we couldn’t secure.
We now have a LB who really wasn’t much cop in the first place now playing out his contract knowing full well that the club desperately wanted him gone and so unsurprisingly is completely checked out. | | | |
| Sorry Paal on 21:14 - Dec 27 with 1383 views | Match82 |
I quite liked him, thought when he joined there was some potential there. But he seems to be going backwards and his defending is just getting worse and worse. Yesterday was absolutely horrific. At most optimistic perspective, he needs a rest at worst he needs to leave. Unfortunately neither is an option. |  | | |
| Sorry Paal on 21:17 - Dec 27 with 1361 views | Northernr |
| Sorry Paal on 18:53 - Dec 27 by lassel |
At the risk of being a stuck record, it’s a nightmare scenario really. Cifuentes has never rated him and was tacitly calling him out repeatedly last season, asking for players who were ‘brave’, the opposite of Paal who deliberately places himself behind a man so he can’t receive the ball.
The club then allowed local media to run all summer with the fact that they were desperate to get rid of him, only to find nobody else wanted him, and the replacements we were interested in we couldn’t secure.
We now have a LB who really wasn’t much cop in the first place now playing out his contract knowing full well that the club desperately wanted him gone and so unsurprisingly is completely checked out. |
This. | | | |
| Sorry Paal on 01:16 - Dec 28 with 1133 views | Markofthegrove |
| Sorry Paal on 18:53 - Dec 27 by lassel |
At the risk of being a stuck record, it’s a nightmare scenario really. Cifuentes has never rated him and was tacitly calling him out repeatedly last season, asking for players who were ‘brave’, the opposite of Paal who deliberately places himself behind a man so he can’t receive the ball.
The club then allowed local media to run all summer with the fact that they were desperate to get rid of him, only to find nobody else wanted him, and the replacements we were interested in we couldn’t secure.
We now have a LB who really wasn’t much cop in the first place now playing out his contract knowing full well that the club desperately wanted him gone and so unsurprisingly is completely checked out. |
Goes back to the squad mismanagement issues and poor recruitment strategy. Everything seems to arc back to this at the moment, yet people are giving Nourry a pass on it?
We've literally made the same mistakes this summer as we did last summer under Ainsworth and it's going to take January to fix it. Luckily we have a manager that is able to get results when we most need it.
Who in their right mind spends all summer shopping their starting left back, then ends up in a situation where he is the only left back at the club after loaning out his back up.
It honestly beggars belief, which makes that Christmas message far worse for me. | | | |
| Sorry Paal on 02:35 - Dec 28 with 1060 views | stainrods_elbow |
| Sorry Paal on 01:16 - Dec 28 by Markofthegrove |
Goes back to the squad mismanagement issues and poor recruitment strategy. Everything seems to arc back to this at the moment, yet people are giving Nourry a pass on it?
We've literally made the same mistakes this summer as we did last summer under Ainsworth and it's going to take January to fix it. Luckily we have a manager that is able to get results when we most need it.
Who in their right mind spends all summer shopping their starting left back, then ends up in a situation where he is the only left back at the club after loaning out his back up.
It honestly beggars belief, which makes that Christmas message far worse for me. |
In his message, Nourry repeatedly makes reference to 'we' (I don't think he's using the royal we) and 'the group' as the basis for recruitment decisions. What beggars belief is the idea that that group wouldn't include Marti as an active contributor, as well as the other coaching/ development staff. If the squad is short, unless he really is some kind of dictator with the 'front of house' as his puppet administration, it's a collective leadership issue. What's also interesting is MC is currently making noises about not necessarily needing or wanting a lot of activity in the window, but instead wanting to focus on in-house development. I have worries about Nourry, for sure, but, for all these reasons, I don't accept or agree that all our problems should be laid at his door. [Post edited 28 Dec 2:37]
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| Sorry Paal on 04:30 - Dec 28 with 1010 views | derbyhoop |
His biggest fault is the amount of space he gives to oppo RW. OK going forward and linking with Chair but a defensive liability, especially with Fox inside.
May well have checked out given his contract situation and well publicised attempts by the club to move him on.
Alternatives aren't great, are they? Colback or Fox? Zarkeche - out on loan, but injured. Shannon or Leahy from DS? |  |
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| Sorry Paal on 08:18 - Dec 28 with 879 views | Hoopstar |
He does look to have been thoroughly QPR'd doesn't he this season.
I remember being very concerned by his lack of physical stature when he first turned up but he was so tenacious during much of the first half of his time at the club - winning so many headers and snapping into tackles. Absolute shadow of that guy now. A real disgrace we have no viable alternative as has been eloquently stated many times already.
Our defence is looking a bit of a nightmare with Cook and Morrison out for a while.
Ashby Dunne JCS Fox/Paal?
Costs us Dunne as a core attacking threat and he is hugely inferior at CB as we know. Field seemingly the only other one who can cover in there but that means bringing Madsen or Andersen back into midfield and not being able to rest Morgan as will be needed. Glad we've got some points on the board and the teams at the bottom continue to be utterly useless - a big month ahead in January and into Feb with a tougher (on paper) end to the season. |  | | |
| Sorry Paal on 08:37 - Dec 28 with 840 views | Rsole |
I wonder if any of these guys from Greg’s analysis back in the summer could be available in January.
https://medium.com/@greg.spires/finding-a-replacement-for-kenneth-paal-a-data-dr
Maybe the recent comms regarding cover might spark some spending or a loan for what remains of the season with an option (non binding this time please) to buy. |  |
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| Sorry Paal on 09:18 - Dec 28 with 777 views | gazza1 |
Paal is a decent left back overall......yes, he is better going forward but he is still OK at defending. Some of his crosses are very dangerous and he gets forward very well. Please do not compare him with Ashby because anyone who does is 100% wrong, Ashby is a very poor LB. | | | |
| Sorry Paal on 10:26 - Dec 28 with 684 views | Hooping_Mad |
| Sorry Paal on 09:18 - Dec 28 by gazza1 |
Paal is a decent left back overall......yes, he is better going forward but he is still OK at defending. Some of his crosses are very dangerous and he gets forward very well. Please do not compare him with Ashby because anyone who does is 100% wrong, Ashby is a very poor LB. |
Ashby is a right back, we're better defensively when he plays at Left back.
Paal cannot concentrate, he flatters when we play well. | |
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| Sorry Paal on 12:10 - Dec 28 with 565 views | gazza1 |
| Sorry Paal on 10:26 - Dec 28 by Hooping_Mad |
Ashby is a right back, we're better defensively when he plays at Left back.
Paal cannot concentrate, he flatters when we play well. |
Ashby is a 23/24 year old that has played 20 odd league games......how do you actually think that he is a better LB than Paal??? He is most average indeed, will be released by Newcastle as soon as they possibly can and will struggle to get a regular game in most, if not all, Championship clubs.
Paal, whilst he has his limitations and why he plays Championship football, is 100% better. Thankfully, the Manager plays Paal ahead of Ashby whenever Paal if fit.
And btw a LB or RB is not just a defender any more, they need to be a 'lot more' than just defending crosses, look what Paal has done since he has been here positionally wise. | | | |
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