| Cifuentes’ comments on 15:00 - Nov 28 with 5014 views | TheChef |
Jude the Cat? 
Yeah I suppose he could have referenced the board, rather than the owners? Whether that's a language limitation...anyhoo... |  |
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| Cifuentes’ comments on 15:04 - Nov 28 with 4956 views | colinallcars |
Yes, very pointed remarks - the exclusion of Nourry and his cohorts is I feel, of importance.
Not that they'd know, they're too busy looking at their phones to notice. |  | | |
| Cifuentes’ comments on 15:07 - Nov 28 with 4922 views | sparkey |
Marti is one of us. |  | | |
| Cifuentes’ comments on 15:36 - Nov 28 with 4681 views | KensalT |
| Cifuentes’ comments on 15:00 - Nov 28 by TheChef |
Jude the Cat?
Yeah I suppose he could have referenced the board, rather than the owners? Whether that's a language limitation...anyhoo... |
The owners are the board, with the addition of Lee Hoos:
https://www.qpr.co.uk/club/staff-directory
Not sure what LH might have done to upset Marti. Perhaps he voted for Trump 
Obviously no mention of Nourry, but I wouldn't read too much into that. It's the board who ultimately decide if Marti stays or goes. | | | |
| Cifuentes’ comments on 15:44 - Nov 28 with 4584 views | LazyFan |
From what he says there I suspect he means he is missing one or two players in positions he wanted.
That has got to be a forward for sure and possibly another player.
Its code for get me players in Jan as we shall need them and he's right.
Our squad is not large like the old days and he's blooding the kids so, you cannot say players do not get a go, because they do. He even gave Taylor Richards a go last season. You cannot say he does not give players as chance. Even EDB makes the bench.
If Smyth gets injured right now we have no one to play RW so, its back to wing backs and so on if that happens. Dembele isnt' a RW anyway he's an AMC really. |  |
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| Cifuentes’ comments on 15:54 - Nov 28 with 4505 views | kensalriser |
| Cifuentes’ comments on 15:44 - Nov 28 by LazyFan |
From what he says there I suspect he means he is missing one or two players in positions he wanted.
That has got to be a forward for sure and possibly another player.
Its code for get me players in Jan as we shall need them and he's right.
Our squad is not large like the old days and he's blooding the kids so, you cannot say players do not get a go, because they do. He even gave Taylor Richards a go last season. You cannot say he does not give players as chance. Even EDB makes the bench.
If Smyth gets injured right now we have no one to play RW so, its back to wing backs and so on if that happens. Dembele isnt' a RW anyway he's an AMC really. |
I couldn't help but look up Richards' progress. Two appearances early on, since when he's been missing. It's almost as though you could have predicted it. |  |
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| Cifuentes’ comments on 15:56 - Nov 28 with 4494 views | CroydonCaptJack |
He does say 'everybody' to be fair. |  | | |
| Cifuentes’ comments on 16:11 - Nov 28 with 4379 views | colinallcars |
| Cifuentes’ comments on 15:54 - Nov 28 by kensalriser |
I couldn't help but look up Richards' progress. Two appearances early on, since when he's been missing. It's almost as though you could have predicted it. |
He made two very brief appearances in pre-season friendlies.
A bloke on the Camb United fans board said “that new bloke didn't seem quite on it”
The understatement of the century. | | | |
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| Cifuentes’ comments on 16:14 - Nov 28 with 4343 views | MrSheen |
| Cifuentes’ comments on 16:11 - Nov 28 by colinallcars |
He made two very brief appearances in pre-season friendlies.
A bloke on the Camb United fans board said “that new bloke didn't seem quite on it”
The understatement of the century. |
Thigh operation, apparently. From a Cambridge fan. |  | | |
| Cifuentes’ comments on 16:18 - Nov 28 with 4314 views | W7Ranger |
| Cifuentes’ comments on 16:14 - Nov 28 by MrSheen |
Thigh operation, apparently. From a Cambridge fan. |
Can't he get a surgeon to do it? |  | | |
| Cifuentes’ comments on 16:33 - Nov 28 with 4113 views | stainrods_elbow |
'QPR need to improve' is hardly headline news, is it? And how is thanking 'everybody' pointed in any way? There's reading between the lines, and then there's over-reading.
I think his reference to the owners pretty much implies the board, unless he means to say the former are telling him how much they like and want to support him but failing to pass that onto the latter (on which Ruben and Amit themselves sit), which would be weird even for us.
As he's/we've had such a bad start, in my view Marti's doing what most managers do whose teams are struggling and sending out a message about what more he needs to protect himself and modifying his much sunnier assessment of our recruitment a mere three months ago. That's hardly news either - it's called downward managemnt of expectations, which has always gone on at QPR. In any case, no manager ever says he's totally happy with this squad and pleads for it not be added to, let's face it.
The bottom line is, if the team can't improve, everyone is to blame - Marti, Nourry, the Board, the owners, and the players, in whatever order. |  |
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| Cifuentes’ comments on 18:07 - Nov 28 with 3843 views | 1JD |
It is also quite clear, as it has been from the summer, that Marti did not get the profile or type of player(s) he requested as key to his style of play.
Notably missing in action from a coach who plays possession football:
- no ball playing CM recruited, who is absolutely key in terms of the ability to play out from the back and dictate and control a game ( a Faurlin type)
- No ball playing full backs recruited, who must be able to do the same, play out, in tight spaces, and progress us up the pitch. (We only have Paal who can do that, 1 of 4 full backs required, and he was already at the club)
And then we have the striker situation. Only 2 strikers. And 1 of which cannot play up top on his own. Another area of the team not fit for purpose. So it’s not hard to see where Marti is coming from. | | | |
| Cifuentes’ comments on 18:25 - Nov 28 with 3730 views | colinallcars |
| Cifuentes’ comments on 16:14 - Nov 28 by MrSheen |
Thigh operation, apparently. From a Cambridge fan. |
He had a boil on his thigh which they lanced. | | | |
| Cifuentes’ comments on 19:07 - Nov 28 with 3520 views | Wilkinswatercarrier |
Key line:
'We need to improve and, I keep repeating, the club needs to understand there are some things that we need to improve as a club that I’ve been saying since the summer and so far we have not improved those areas.'
That's not Marti talking about the team, he clearly says the club needs to improve and he's been asking for these improvements since summer. Love to know what they are.
Also, by stating this in public he's using the backing of the fans as leverage. Clever. | | | |
| Cifuentes’ comments on 19:15 - Nov 28 with 3462 views | FDC |
| Cifuentes’ comments on 19:07 - Nov 28 by Wilkinswatercarrier |
Key line:
'We need to improve and, I keep repeating, the club needs to understand there are some things that we need to improve as a club that I’ve been saying since the summer and so far we have not improved those areas.'
That's not Marti talking about the team, he clearly says the club needs to improve and he's been asking for these improvements since summer. Love to know what they are.
Also, by stating this in public he's using the backing of the fans as leverage. Clever. |
Yeah definitely feels calculated, with regards public support and having got a win. |  | | |
| Cifuentes’ comments on 19:50 - Nov 28 with 3261 views | Logman |
Very wise words from Marti. Reining in the expectations and not succumbing to the immediate gratification of a win. We are seriously onto a winner with Marti. Just hope the Board are not blind enough to see it. | | | |
| Cifuentes’ comments on 19:57 - Nov 28 with 3228 views | dmm |
| Cifuentes’ comments on 19:07 - Nov 28 by Wilkinswatercarrier |
Key line:
'We need to improve and, I keep repeating, the club needs to understand there are some things that we need to improve as a club that I’ve been saying since the summer and so far we have not improved those areas.'
That's not Marti talking about the team, he clearly says the club needs to improve and he's been asking for these improvements since summer. Love to know what they are.
Also, by stating this in public he's using the backing of the fans as leverage. Clever. |
You may well be right but Dave Mc starts the article referenced in the OP with: "Marti Cifuentes has suggested that QPR still need to improve their transfer dealings...". So he seems to interpret Marti's comments as a squad issue rather than a club one. |  | | |
| Cifuentes’ comments on 01:36 - Nov 29 with 2795 views | stainrods_elbow |
| Cifuentes’ comments on 19:57 - Nov 28 by dmm |
You may well be right but Dave Mc starts the article referenced in the OP with: "Marti Cifuentes has suggested that QPR still need to improve their transfer dealings...". So he seems to interpret Marti's comments as a squad issue rather than a club one. |
As I've pointed out, Marti, speaking on the record, has significantly shifted his feet re recruitment since August, partly no doubt to kindle the flame of our support. I don't blame him as he (probably) doesn't want to be sacked, but to pretend otherwise is to prosecute a highly selective narrative. | |
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| Cifuentes’ comments on 09:16 - Nov 29 with 2400 views | EastR |
| Cifuentes’ comments on 19:07 - Nov 28 by Wilkinswatercarrier |
Key line:
'We need to improve and, I keep repeating, the club needs to understand there are some things that we need to improve as a club that I’ve been saying since the summer and so far we have not improved those areas.'
That's not Marti talking about the team, he clearly says the club needs to improve and he's been asking for these improvements since summer. Love to know what they are.
Also, by stating this in public he's using the backing of the fans as leverage. Clever. |
Water pressure in Ellerslie road toilets I reckon | |
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| Cifuentes’ comments on 09:48 - Nov 29 with 2274 views | Wilkinswatercarrier |
| Cifuentes’ comments on 01:36 - Nov 29 by stainrods_elbow |
As I've pointed out, Marti, speaking on the record, has significantly shifted his feet re recruitment since August, partly no doubt to kindle the flame of our support. I don't blame him as he (probably) doesn't want to be sacked, but to pretend otherwise is to prosecute a highly selective narrative. |
I'm not sure he's actually spoken on the record about recruitment since August.
This article doesn't mention recruitment, he talks about what the club needs to do, and hasn't yet. Considering the club can't sign anyone outside of the transfer window he may be alluding to other matters.
Could be on the medical side, who knows. | | | |
| Cifuentes’ comments on 22:03 - Nov 29 with 1684 views | stainrods_elbow |
| Cifuentes’ comments on 09:48 - Nov 29 by Wilkinswatercarrier |
I'm not sure he's actually spoken on the record about recruitment since August.
This article doesn't mention recruitment, he talks about what the club needs to do, and hasn't yet. Considering the club can't sign anyone outside of the transfer window he may be alluding to other matters.
Could be on the medical side, who knows. |
I'll post the article once again in case you haven't seen it, when, in late August, Marti told us he 'almost fully satisfied' by our summer recruitment and how he felt 'convinced we have signed some good players', which it was now his job to weld into a cohesive team.
https://londonnewsonline.co.uk/sport/im-very-stubborn-marti-cifuentes-provides-a
Three months later, he's now signalling to the fanbase the club need to strengthen/ support him more/do more, whatever this means.
That's my point.
I've given my reading of this shifting of his feet, with our very poor form the rather obvious factor.
Do I think the summer recruitment has been flawless? Clearly not, but it hasn't been disastrous either.
Do I think that Marti has struggled to fulfil his own self-described task as coach in moulding a team out of the personnel he has told us, repeatedly, he trusts and rates highly (and this for whatever reasons, including the injury list)? I do. [Post edited 29 Nov 22:09]
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| Cifuentes’ comments on 22:27 - Nov 29 with 1625 views | mart_Goblin |
Dear god |  | | |
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