| Starmer! Wow! on 20:14 - Sep 18 with 5228 views | Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
Swansea city gave him £2000??? |  |
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| Starmer! Wow! on 20:32 - Sep 18 with 5180 views | Flashberryjack |
Those robbing Tory bar stewards.
Change !! my arse |  |
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| Starmer! Wow! on 20:35 - Sep 18 with 5160 views | Whiterockin |
| Starmer! Wow! on 20:32 - Sep 18 by Flashberryjack |
Those robbing Tory bar stewards.
Change !! my arse |
There really is no difference between politicians, they all take everything they can. |  | | |
| Starmer! Wow! on 21:17 - Sep 18 with 5086 views | Flashberryjack |
| Starmer! Wow! on 20:35 - Sep 18 by Whiterockin |
There really is no difference between politicians, they all take everything they can. |
Yes, they are all the same, but when you've spent so much time pre election, criticising sleaze and cronyism in the conservative party, you'd have thought they'd have let the dust settle, before sticking their snouts into the trough of plenty, hypocrisy at it's very best. | |
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| Starmer! Wow! on 21:24 - Sep 18 with 5051 views | Gwyn737 |
| Starmer! Wow! on 21:17 - Sep 18 by Flashberryjack |
Yes, they are all the same, but when you've spent so much time pre election, criticising sleaze and cronyism in the conservative party, you'd have thought they'd have let the dust settle, before sticking their snouts into the trough of plenty, hypocrisy at it's very best. |
It’s hypocrisy if those donations are used for benefits - cash for questions, peerages, fast lanes etc.
As for general donations, I think we can’t criticise any politician (especially senior ones) when the basic pay is scandalously low for the roles.
Pay them properly then ban personal donations over a predetermined amount. |  | | |
| Starmer! Wow! on 21:35 - Sep 18 with 5037 views | Whiterockin |
| Starmer! Wow! on 21:24 - Sep 18 by Gwyn737 |
It’s hypocrisy if those donations are used for benefits - cash for questions, peerages, fast lanes etc.
As for general donations, I think we can’t criticise any politician (especially senior ones) when the basic pay is scandalously low for the roles.
Pay them properly then ban personal donations over a predetermined amount. |
Many have so much wealth they shouldn't be paid at all. How about means testing politicians before they receive public funds as a salary. Its not personal donations they receive, it's freebies, just something for nothing except its not for nothing. | | | |
| Starmer! Wow! on 21:47 - Sep 18 with 4995 views | Gwyn737 |
| Starmer! Wow! on 21:35 - Sep 18 by Whiterockin |
Many have so much wealth they shouldn't be paid at all. How about means testing politicians before they receive public funds as a salary. Its not personal donations they receive, it's freebies, just something for nothing except its not for nothing. |
I’m not comfortable with the donations and freebies.
We want the best people to the job and if we want the non-wealthy to be in with a shout, we have to pay them.
The Prime minister earns around a £170k. The bloke who was in charge of HS2 earned £650k. A CEO of a medium size academy chain will be on £200k ish.
Doesn’t add up for me.
I’m curious to what posters think what the prime minister should earn, as the single most important job in the uk. | | | |
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| Starmer! Wow! on 21:53 - Sep 18 with 4982 views | Whiterockin |
| Starmer! Wow! on 21:47 - Sep 18 by Gwyn737 |
I’m not comfortable with the donations and freebies.
We want the best people to the job and if we want the non-wealthy to be in with a shout, we have to pay them.
The Prime minister earns around a £170k. The bloke who was in charge of HS2 earned £650k. A CEO of a medium size academy chain will be on £200k ish.
Doesn’t add up for me.
I’m curious to what posters think what the prime minister should earn, as the single most important job in the uk. |
Personally I think the salary of the prime minister is immaterial as to the likes of Kier, Rishi and Boris it matters not a jot. It is small change to their actual wealth. But they still take much more in freebies. | | | |
| Starmer! Wow! on 22:08 - Sep 18 with 4923 views | Boundy |
| Starmer! Wow! on 21:35 - Sep 18 by Whiterockin |
Many have so much wealth they shouldn't be paid at all. How about means testing politicians before they receive public funds as a salary. Its not personal donations they receive, it's freebies, just something for nothing except its not for nothing. |
Like they're about to do to OAPS you mean.Never going to happen . | |
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| Starmer! Wow! on 22:13 - Sep 18 with 4903 views | Whiterockin |
| Starmer! Wow! on 22:08 - Sep 18 by Boundy |
Like they're about to do to OAPS you mean.Never going to happen . |
Exactly, do as I say not do as I do. | | | |
| Starmer! Wow! on 22:16 - Sep 18 with 4887 views | JACKMANANDBOY |
Well I was willing to give him the benefit of the doubt, but after all he said about standards in politics this stinks of hypocrisy. The WFA is a botched decision and he has agreed pay deals in the public sector without any conditions in a rapidly changing world where every industry is evolving quickly. I fear that we are in for a rough ride. |  |
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| Starmer! Wow! on 22:30 - Sep 18 with 4866 views | majorraglan |
| Starmer! Wow! on 22:16 - Sep 18 by JACKMANANDBOY |
Well I was willing to give him the benefit of the doubt, but after all he said about standards in politics this stinks of hypocrisy. The WFA is a botched decision and he has agreed pay deals in the public sector without any conditions in a rapidly changing world where every industry is evolving quickly. I fear that we are in for a rough ride. |
I agree with you about the WFA, it needs to be means tested but the threshold they are lowering it to is to low, someone earning £1 above the pension credit limit will lose out.
In terms of the pay settlements, he’s only honouring the figures recommended by the pay review groups, it’s not his fault the last government didn’t give any terms of reference to the pay review bodies. If the had set base lines for the pay settlements or insisted on changes to working practice they could have been included, but Starmer can’t change the terms after the process has been completed. | | | |
| Starmer! Wow! on 09:31 - Sep 19 with 4727 views | Wingstandwood |
Now being called "free Gear Kier", add that to "Two Tier Kier". The downside of having a surname that rhymes well? Sort of stands the test of time like "Magaret Thatcher Milk Snatcher"?
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| Starmer! Wow! on 09:57 - Sep 19 with 4714 views | Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
| Starmer! Wow! on 22:16 - Sep 18 by JACKMANANDBOY |
Well I was willing to give him the benefit of the doubt, but after all he said about standards in politics this stinks of hypocrisy. The WFA is a botched decision and he has agreed pay deals in the public sector without any conditions in a rapidly changing world where every industry is evolving quickly. I fear that we are in for a rough ride. |
The guy is an absolute snake.
It is remarkable though he’s been given all this money to buy all the best clothes money can buy but still looks the most bland and joyless human being in human history. | |
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| Starmer! Wow! on 10:04 - Sep 19 with 4701 views | Scotia |
| Starmer! Wow! on 22:30 - Sep 18 by majorraglan |
I agree with you about the WFA, it needs to be means tested but the threshold they are lowering it to is to low, someone earning £1 above the pension credit limit will lose out.
In terms of the pay settlements, he’s only honouring the figures recommended by the pay review groups, it’s not his fault the last government didn’t give any terms of reference to the pay review bodies. If the had set base lines for the pay settlements or insisted on changes to working practice they could have been included, but Starmer can’t change the terms after the process has been completed. |
The WFA should have had a full impact assessment. I can see a U turn coming up on that.
I don't see there is a comparison between WFA and public sector increases. As you say in most cases it's following an independent review and years of no or very small increases.
All the while state pensions have increased in line with the triple lock - over 10% pa in some years. | | | |
| Starmer! Wow! on 10:05 - Sep 19 with 4691 views | onehunglow |
| Starmer! Wow! on 09:57 - Sep 19 by Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
The guy is an absolute snake.
It is remarkable though he’s been given all this money to buy all the best clothes money can buy but still looks the most bland and joyless human being in human history. |
And the gutless Tories are to blame for this former head CPS assuming the premiership
He was voted in as they was not really much choice
However, his majority ensures he can do what he wants and he is
Train Drivers happy anyway
They can strike
Pensioners
Croutons who are sponging off the state when we can be giving real benefits to the really deprived
Innit
Yeah baby | |
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| Starmer! Wow! on 10:15 - Sep 19 with 4694 views | Whiterockin |
| Starmer! Wow! on 10:04 - Sep 19 by Scotia |
The WFA should have had a full impact assessment. I can see a U turn coming up on that.
I don't see there is a comparison between WFA and public sector increases. As you say in most cases it's following an independent review and years of no or very small increases.
All the while state pensions have increased in line with the triple lock - over 10% pa in some years. |
Looks like there might be another vote coming, after all the unions pull the Labour strings.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2024/sep/18/unite-aims-to-force-vote-on-win | | | |
| Starmer! Wow! on 12:26 - Sep 19 with 4654 views | felixstowe_jack |
I see Starmer has received over £100,000 in freebies since he became labour leader. More than any other MP. | |
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| Starmer! Wow! on 13:04 - Sep 19 with 4619 views | JACKMANANDBOY |
Some of the prisons released early last week have not been fitted with tags despite this being a condition of their release! [Post edited 19 Sep 13:04]
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| Starmer! Wow! on 13:26 - Sep 19 with 4562 views | Boundy |
| Starmer! Wow! on 21:24 - Sep 18 by Gwyn737 |
It’s hypocrisy if those donations are used for benefits - cash for questions, peerages, fast lanes etc.
As for general donations, I think we can’t criticise any politician (especially senior ones) when the basic pay is scandalously low for the roles.
Pay them properly then ban personal donations over a predetermined amount. |
Once you start paying "donations" then all impartiality disappears , big or small no one gives money/gifts without wanting something in return and in return that puts pressure of the recipient to provide a "favour" They earn enough as it is along with their allowances and gold plated pensions . | |
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| Starmer! Wow! on 13:39 - Sep 19 with 4533 views | majorraglan |
| Starmer! Wow! on 13:04 - Sep 19 by JACKMANANDBOY |
Some of the prisons released early last week have not been fitted with tags despite this being a condition of their release! [Post edited 19 Sep 13:04]
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It’s a contracted service having been outsourced by previous governments, Capita are the current contract holders. Serco and G4S formerly held the contracts, but there was a large SFO investigation and things changed. | | | |
| Starmer! Wow! on 15:38 - Sep 19 with 4472 views | Boundy |
| Starmer! Wow! on 10:04 - Sep 19 by Scotia |
The WFA should have had a full impact assessment. I can see a U turn coming up on that.
I don't see there is a comparison between WFA and public sector increases. As you say in most cases it's following an independent review and years of no or very small increases.
All the while state pensions have increased in line with the triple lock - over 10% pa in some years. |
The treasury are refusing a FOI request asking to see the mystical black hole because they wont to reassess the figures, but despite this they were quick enough to make a policy decision on the WFA , quick enough to award big pay rises ( regardless of what went on before with the previous administration ) . | |
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| Starmer! Wow! on 17:26 - Sep 19 with 4380 views | Gwyn737 |
| Starmer! Wow! on 13:26 - Sep 19 by Boundy |
Once you start paying "donations" then all impartiality disappears , big or small no one gives money/gifts without wanting something in return and in return that puts pressure of the recipient to provide a "favour" They earn enough as it is along with their allowances and gold plated pensions . |
If we want a hard line on this kind of thing it’s not enough, particularly for senior roles.
£170k for prime minster is daft IMO. | | | |
| Starmer! Wow! on 17:37 - Sep 19 with 4381 views | SullutaCreturned |
I did read it thoroughly and this bit stood out,
The PM defended his right to continue to take football freebies earlier this week, saying: ‘If I don’t accept a gift of hospitality, I can’t go to a game.
‘Never going to an Arsenal game again because I can’t accept hospitality is pushing it a bit far.’
Now on the assumption that is 100% accurate then I have to say, what kind of a screaming idiot is he?
Clearly the kind who loves to call the tories corrupt and hypocrites, people whose judgement is flawed and shouldn't be in power when he clearly doesn't recognise those traits/flaws in himself. | | | |
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