| Cambridge- the carabao cup adventure starts here - match thread 22:42 - Aug 12 with 46746 views | numptydumpty |
I think only ever started one match day thread
But have taken responsibility this season for our new found cup successes.
The cup run starts here.
Taylor Richards scores a 90th minute winner - an own goal - to set us on our merry way and few games later Richards gets cult hero status in being the beginning of the magic run towards Carabao Cup Final success !!! |  |
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| Cambridge- the carabao cup adventure starts here - match thread on 09:57 - Aug 14 with 2776 views | Bluce_Ree |
Holy shit. We won. I totally forgot we were playing until I checked the forum. |  |
| Stefan Moore, Stefan Moore running down the wing. Stefan Moore, Stefan Moore running down the wing. He runs like a cheetah, his crosses couldn't be sweeter. Stefan Moore. Stefan Moore. Stefan Moore. |
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| Cambridge- the carabao cup adventure starts here - match thread on 10:01 - Aug 14 with 2734 views | Monkey_Roots |
Early days - 1 league game and a switched up side for a cup game - so trying not to be all knee-jerk etc...
We've looked poor and not really sure how we want to play, there doesn't seem to be a discernible style that we're aiming for, or at least the personal isn't able to do it just yet.
I totally trust in the manager, the positive direction we're heading in, but I must admit I was hoping that a full pre-season with the signings we have would have us looking a bit more like a side that knows what it wants to do. |  | | |
| Cambridge- the carabao cup adventure starts here - match thread on 10:04 - Aug 14 with 2700 views | GaryBannister86 |
If you look at the Cambridge forum they are naturally delighted in the second half and even comment that it is the best they have ever seen their team play. "If this is Monkball, then count me in".
I did think they looked good second half and in typical QPR fashion I now fancy them to do well this season. Which means, no doubt, they will lose their next ten games on the spin. |  | | |
| Cambridge- the carabao cup adventure starts here - match thread on 10:06 - Aug 14 with 2679 views | Stanisgod |
Being a bit simplistic, but given the way we played the last few months of last season, why would you not just keep the same style this season. |  |
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| Cambridge- the carabao cup adventure starts here - match thread on 10:09 - Aug 14 with 2657 views | andrew1302 |
EDB looked overweight to me. He lost the ball a lot and when he had chances he fluffed his lines.
Celar concerns me. He didnt have great close control, was muscled off the ball and contributed virtually nothing. Early days but he seems slow, weak and not able to close control. I hope it is just adjustment but 2 games in a row he just doesnt seem able to cope with anything physical
Dunne i thought was very committed and was for me MOM.
Varane misplaced a few passes but has some potential. Other new signings who played were just off the pace and lacked physicality.
Overall we are being overrun in midfield. The ball is coming thru us too easilt. Partly i think due to Sam Field having the 2 worst games i have seen him play. We dont seem to be able to hold the ball up. We get it and very often lose it within a couple of passes unless they are backwardss.
Certainly the 2 worst games i have seen under Marti with the possible exclusion of Stoke. Early days but things need to change before Saturday or we will get a hammering. |  | | |
| Cambridge- the carabao cup adventure starts here - match thread on 10:11 - Aug 14 with 2648 views | Hunterhoop |
| Cambridge- the carabao cup adventure starts here - match thread on 09:40 - Aug 14 by GaryBannister86 |
Ha - we all see it differently. Don't get the fitness thing, he was the one still charging forward late in the game. And as Clive said, in the absence of Cook it was his bonce that got us out of trouble almost every time.
Positioning is not my thing so bow to you on that one! |
And that side of a game is critical, I grant you. No good being all silky in possession if you concede every bloody set piece! I love players who are good in the air. And I’ve always liked Dunne’s attitude.
As I said, I think the players are being asked to play a new system that they aren’t getting right yet, and causing us problems.
It’s only been two games. Understanding will grow, with any new system or style of play. And we have new players bedding in too.
I’d just perhaps be a bit pragmatic away at Utd. If we play like we did last night on Saturday, we’ll concede a lot and take a battering. We need to avoid that. Dunne and Paal should play flat, and we should drop the 10 role into a midfield 3. 451 out of possession 433 in it. IF you want to play Anderson, he plays on the right instead of Smyth. Personally, for that one off game, with the approach I’m suggesting I would keep Smyth for his pace as an outlet.
Against, Plymouth we should be able to open up a bit again and expect to beat them. |  | | |
| Cambridge- the carabao cup adventure starts here - match thread on 10:26 - Aug 14 with 2587 views | Antti_Heinola |
| Cambridge- the carabao cup adventure starts here - match thread on 10:06 - Aug 14 by Stanisgod |
Being a bit simplistic, but given the way we played the last few months of last season, why would you not just keep the same style this season. |
Seeing a lot of this and I think it’s a bit simplistic and also there’s some memory clouding going on:
1. We did well from about February, but rarely did we win a game comfortably, even at the end only eking out a 1-0 win against a dreadful Preston side thanks to a gift of a goal. Worth remembering that we were 2 games from relegation, and arguably the season turned on Dunne’s late miracle v Brum. Some expectations are quite absurd - I am not down with that herd. So, taken with that more realistic context, it makes sense to try and elevate the team to the next level and not abandon it after 2 games.
2. People keep saying its mostly the same team. It. Is. Not. New keeper, no Hayden who was hugely influential and even when sub was crucial (what a difference he might’ve made v WBA). Our two most potent players, Chair and Willock are absent. These are not simple things to overcome, this is not football manager.
3. While I’m not suggesting we have played well in anything but short patches, anyone looking from the outside would worry about us. Just avoided relegation, lost Willock, Hayden. Didn’t have a striker last season, only an unknown quantity this season. Colback and Cook a year older. No cover at LB, a CB still at RB. Let’s get real: until the new boys are settled (and football history guarantees not all will work) we need to temper what we are expecting. It’s all very well saying ‘that was a league one team’ - well, for most of last season we watched a league one team in all but name, and last night’s line up was weaker than most of last season.
4. We can all lecture the manager, believe we can see what he cannot. That’s all fine, we all do it, it’s all valid. But the bloke knows more about what he’s trying to do and what will and won’t work than any of us. He’ll sort it out. |  |
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| Cambridge- the carabao cup adventure starts here - match thread on 10:30 - Aug 14 with 2549 views | ted_hendrix |
| Cambridge- the carabao cup adventure starts here - match thread on 06:58 - Aug 14 by dmm |
A number have commented on the fitness levels of the players, particularly Hunterhoop, and I think most would agree we do look undercooked. This is similar to the opening games of last season when, under Ben Williams, we were even worse. It would appear to be his influence again. |
Well the season started for our professional players on the 10th August and here we are Four days later discussing our professional players level of fitness/lack of fitness.
If you were a tradesman (for example a carpenter/joiner) and you returned to work after a two week holiday and you spent the first couple of days back at work sharpening your tools (when you can find them) instead of working (hanging doors-fixing skirting-fixing locks that sort of everyday normal productive working then you'd soon be sacked and out the door.
I never could understand players not being fit and ready for the first game of the season.
I never could understand players who misplaces a pass to a teammate who is stood yawning two bloody yards away. |  |
| My Father had a profound influence on me, he was a lunatic. |
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| Cambridge- the carabao cup adventure starts here - match thread on 10:32 - Aug 14 with 2515 views | Antti_Heinola |
| Cambridge- the carabao cup adventure starts here - match thread on 10:30 - Aug 14 by ted_hendrix |
Well the season started for our professional players on the 10th August and here we are Four days later discussing our professional players level of fitness/lack of fitness.
If you were a tradesman (for example a carpenter/joiner) and you returned to work after a two week holiday and you spent the first couple of days back at work sharpening your tools (when you can find them) instead of working (hanging doors-fixing skirting-fixing locks that sort of everyday normal productive working then you'd soon be sacked and out the door.
I never could understand players not being fit and ready for the first game of the season.
I never could understand players who misplaces a pass to a teammate who is stood yawning two bloody yards away. |
Great to see the terrible ‘if you were a tradesman’ analogies coming out.
Not remotely comparable. | |
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| Cambridge- the carabao cup adventure starts here - match thread on 10:33 - Aug 14 with 2501 views | ted_hendrix |
| Cambridge- the carabao cup adventure starts here - match thread on 10:32 - Aug 14 by Antti_Heinola |
Great to see the terrible ‘if you were a tradesman’ analogies coming out.
Not remotely comparable. |
Yea whatever you say | |
| My Father had a profound influence on me, he was a lunatic. |
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| Cambridge- the carabao cup adventure starts here - match thread on 10:34 - Aug 14 with 2497 views | Juzzie |
For the last 20 years or so I've increasingly heard the comment that football is "a results business". Boils my piss because it's not and the reaction to last nights win shows that because if it was it would be a case of we won, nothing to comment on, next..... |  | | |
| Cambridge- the carabao cup adventure starts here - match thread on 10:51 - Aug 14 with 2383 views | DannyPaddox |
Great to be watching the Rs standing on a terrace again. And great to win a Cup game. But that second half was awful. Looked like we were playing Brazil not Cambridge United. They just passed the ball around and through us while we couldn’t string three together. But still, Steven Hawking, Pink Floyd, Olivia Newton John, University Challlenge, the Cambridge English Dictionary. Your boys took one helluva beating! |  | | |
| Cambridge- the carabao cup adventure starts here - match thread on 12:01 - Aug 14 with 2158 views | Pdog |
Whilst completely hypothetical..
If the half's were reversed last night and 1st half we lost 0-1, got opened up on numerous occasions, didn't create much and were overall outplayed. Yet came out 2nd period played like we did in that first half, controlled most of the ball, scored a cracking passing move goal and Smyth wins it late on.
Would the sentiment still be the same? |  | | |
| Cambridge- the carabao cup adventure starts here - match thread on 12:05 - Aug 14 with 2121 views | dmm |
| Cambridge- the carabao cup adventure starts here - match thread on 12:01 - Aug 14 by Pdog |
Whilst completely hypothetical..
If the half's were reversed last night and 1st half we lost 0-1, got opened up on numerous occasions, didn't create much and were overall outplayed. Yet came out 2nd period played like we did in that first half, controlled most of the ball, scored a cracking passing move goal and Smyth wins it late on.
Would the sentiment still be the same? |
Of course not because it would suggest the manager and team put right what they had got wrong rather than the other way around as happened last night. However, I think there would still be questions asked, and rightly so. |  | | |
| Cambridge- the carabao cup adventure starts here - match thread on 12:07 - Aug 14 with 2090 views | kensalriser |
What's the story with Garry Monk? Out of the game for several years and then returns in L1. |  |
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| Cambridge- the carabao cup adventure starts here - match thread on 12:11 - Aug 14 with 2029 views | DavieQPR |
It worries me a little bit that JCS, Anderson and Field are not playing up to their standard of last season. |  | | |
| Cambridge- the carabao cup adventure starts here - match thread on 12:17 - Aug 14 with 1999 views | Northernr |
| Cambridge- the carabao cup adventure starts here - match thread on 12:07 - Aug 14 by kensalriser |
What's the story with Garry Monk? Out of the game for several years and then returns in L1. |
Didn't Steve Gibson call him out on some questionable agent activity? Seemed to torpedo his career. |  | | |
| Cambridge- the carabao cup adventure starts here - match thread on 12:27 - Aug 14 with 1943 views | SimplyNico |
| Cambridge- the carabao cup adventure starts here - match thread on 12:17 - Aug 14 by Northernr |
Didn't Steve Gibson call him out on some questionable agent activity? Seemed to torpedo his career. |
There's a story behind that. | | | |
| Cambridge- the carabao cup adventure starts here - match thread on 12:41 - Aug 14 with 1870 views | loftboy |
| Cambridge- the carabao cup adventure starts here - match thread on 12:11 - Aug 14 by DavieQPR |
It worries me a little bit that JCS, Anderson and Field are not playing up to their standard of last season. |
IMHO Anderson has been our best player in both games this season. |  |
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| Cambridge- the carabao cup adventure starts here - match thread on 12:56 - Aug 14 with 1750 views | baz_qpr |
On the Dunne point Northern and Hunter are spot on. Fantastic in both boxes for set pieces, really poor at right back. He spoke on QPR podcast that he has lost weight over the summer to play full back not sure if that is helping or hindering him.
I think also to be fair to the players we are still very much at that stage where they are having to think where they should be etc and that is going to slow them down as well until they are well drilled. The passiveness and innefectiveness of the press has to be fitness related though.
Hope Frey starts on Saturday |  | | |
| Cambridge- the carabao cup adventure starts here - match thread on 12:59 - Aug 14 with 1727 views | Juzzie |
| Cambridge- the carabao cup adventure starts here - match thread on 12:17 - Aug 14 by Northernr |
Didn't Steve Gibson call him out on some questionable agent activity? Seemed to torpedo his career. |
Bit more than a calling out by the looks of things. Legal letters sent, accusations surrounding £miilions, a wiped laptop, protection of club (by Monk) not contractually adhered to etc. | | | |
| Cambridge- the carabao cup adventure starts here - match thread on 13:58 - Aug 14 with 1505 views | Antti_Heinola |
| Cambridge- the carabao cup adventure starts here - match thread on 10:33 - Aug 14 by ted_hendrix |
Yea whatever you say |
No not whatever I say: it’s a poor analogy and makes no sense. I love your posts Ted, I don’t mean to be mean, it’s more a reaction to those sort of posts that just boil my p1ss. Skilled craftspeople are skilled craftspeople, elite (ish) level team sports people have almost nothing in common with them in terms of achieving success. | |
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| Cambridge- the carabao cup adventure starts here - match thread on 14:55 - Aug 14 with 1289 views | themodfather |
| Cambridge- the carabao cup adventure starts here - match thread on 13:58 - Aug 14 by Antti_Heinola |
No not whatever I say: it’s a poor analogy and makes no sense. I love your posts Ted, I don’t mean to be mean, it’s more a reaction to those sort of posts that just boil my p1ss. Skilled craftspeople are skilled craftspeople, elite (ish) level team sports people have almost nothing in common with them in terms of achieving success. |
who would want to take us on now? on a cup run! i bet Brazil national team with a 3-0 head start would not play us next!! wem-ber-leeeeeee | | | |
| Cambridge- the carabao cup adventure starts here - match thread on 16:02 - Aug 14 with 1138 views | mart_Goblin |
| Cambridge- the carabao cup adventure starts here - match thread on 10:26 - Aug 14 by Antti_Heinola |
Seeing a lot of this and I think it’s a bit simplistic and also there’s some memory clouding going on:
1. We did well from about February, but rarely did we win a game comfortably, even at the end only eking out a 1-0 win against a dreadful Preston side thanks to a gift of a goal. Worth remembering that we were 2 games from relegation, and arguably the season turned on Dunne’s late miracle v Brum. Some expectations are quite absurd - I am not down with that herd. So, taken with that more realistic context, it makes sense to try and elevate the team to the next level and not abandon it after 2 games.
2. People keep saying its mostly the same team. It. Is. Not. New keeper, no Hayden who was hugely influential and even when sub was crucial (what a difference he might’ve made v WBA). Our two most potent players, Chair and Willock are absent. These are not simple things to overcome, this is not football manager.
3. While I’m not suggesting we have played well in anything but short patches, anyone looking from the outside would worry about us. Just avoided relegation, lost Willock, Hayden. Didn’t have a striker last season, only an unknown quantity this season. Colback and Cook a year older. No cover at LB, a CB still at RB. Let’s get real: until the new boys are settled (and football history guarantees not all will work) we need to temper what we are expecting. It’s all very well saying ‘that was a league one team’ - well, for most of last season we watched a league one team in all but name, and last night’s line up was weaker than most of last season.
4. We can all lecture the manager, believe we can see what he cannot. That’s all fine, we all do it, it’s all valid. But the bloke knows more about what he’s trying to do and what will and won’t work than any of us. He’ll sort it out. |
Brilliant post in fairness |  | | |
| Cambridge- the carabao cup adventure starts here - match thread on 16:13 - Aug 14 with 1090 views | mart_Goblin |
| Cambridge- the carabao cup adventure starts here - match thread on 10:09 - Aug 14 by andrew1302 |
EDB looked overweight to me. He lost the ball a lot and when he had chances he fluffed his lines.
Celar concerns me. He didnt have great close control, was muscled off the ball and contributed virtually nothing. Early days but he seems slow, weak and not able to close control. I hope it is just adjustment but 2 games in a row he just doesnt seem able to cope with anything physical
Dunne i thought was very committed and was for me MOM.
Varane misplaced a few passes but has some potential. Other new signings who played were just off the pace and lacked physicality.
Overall we are being overrun in midfield. The ball is coming thru us too easilt. Partly i think due to Sam Field having the 2 worst games i have seen him play. We dont seem to be able to hold the ball up. We get it and very often lose it within a couple of passes unless they are backwardss.
Certainly the 2 worst games i have seen under Marti with the possible exclusion of Stoke. Early days but things need to change before Saturday or we will get a hammering. |
Regarding EDB missing chances , which he did , however that first one where he hit it high towards the roof of the net, took a glance of the defenders head and went over . It was great defending but should have been a corner which the officials missed . | | | |
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